I recently removed a member because his account (on free.fr domain) continued to be in hard bounce in spite of several bounce probes.

He applied to the group again, saying that he doesn't understand why he had been removed from the group.
In the pending members page his account still has a red B next to it. The reason is: "Bounced 07.03.2022: mx1.free.fr: 550 spam detected".
His account isn't included in the group bouncing members' list (I think because he is no longer an actual member of the group, right?).

Now, what can/should I do? If his account is in hard bounce, can he receive mail from the owner's address?

Thank you for your help.
Marina

I found the section in Firefox for the assigning and saving cookies to use for logging into specific sites, but so far it is hit and miss if it saves it. Still working on it. After using one browser for so long, and getting use to how it works, it takes a little time to work through a new one.

I'll look at that link you offered Dave.

Thanks,
Don

Thank you for your swift reply.? I've appended my response to your original message.

-- Is this moderator on the reverification list? If so, it stands to reason she would receive two copies...one the original and one the bcc. No.
-- Were you unable to contact everyone with a single message and had to do it twice? If so, then this moderator would receive two bcc's. Yes and approximately 40% of the messages were 'qued for delivery'

Does this assist?? I'm not overly concerned hoping its a one-off.

Kind regards

And whilst cookies are the engine of the web that follows us and allows ads to target us there are steps that can be taken. That is, if the work is done, the cookies can be managed and kept to a minimum.
This is merely a random link about cookies ON/cookies OFF:?
We may desire a curated collection of cookies to allow us to store the login for groups.io say. When there is a will, there is a way.

Cheers,
Dave F.

On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 07:10 PM, Don Grass wrote:

Everything works again like it should, except I haven't figured out how to get it to remember me after I have signed in yet.

The login is stored as a cookie. If you disable cookies, it won't work.

Regards,
Bruce

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I kind of gave up on Dissenter, and made Firefox my default browser. Everything works again like it should, except I haven't figured out how to get it to remember me after I have signed in yet. I'm working on it.

Thanks for the advice,

Don

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On 17 March 2024 15:34:09 (+00:00), Don Grass wrote:

I’ll do some more tweaking with this browser, but maybe I will end up using another browser.

Save some effort, just go directly to Vivaldi (with it's built-in mail client in the case of the Windows version).

On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 11:37 AM, Don Grass wrote:

I’m looking for some guidance. I decided to switch away from the Microsoft Edge browser because of their use of AI, and I’m now using another browser called Dissenter that I have made my default browser. After adjusting some browser settings in Dissenter, it appeared I got every the way I like it in using Groups.io. After going through my group checking for functionality, I found some things do not work.

The Gab Dissenter browser was rife with vulnerabilities and development was abandoned three years ago. I encourage you to use something that's actively supported.

Regards,
Bruce

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On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 08:17 AM, Peter wrote:

On Friday (15.03.24) I sent reminder messages to members who were on the Reverification list and bbc'd the Moderators for their info.
One Moderator has come back to me (another is away) saying she received two identical messages and wondered why. So do I!

There are a lot of possibilities:
-- Is this moderator on the reverification list? If so, it stands to reason she would receive two copies...one the original and one the bcc.
-- Were you unable to contact everyone with a single message and had to do it twice? If so, then this moderator would receive two bcc's.
-- If neither of the above scenarios apply then she may have a forwarder or filter of some kind set up.?

While it's also possible that something is broken within groups.io, we need to check these low-hanging fruit first. If you're really worried about this we can start with examining the message headers.

Regards,
Bruce

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On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 08:18 AM, psb b wrote:

I've attached a screen shot from one of our members who is wondering why her emails say "To: ?xxxxxx via Email Integration"

It sometimes happens that the first email received from your group arrived via one of your integrations and that automatically creates a contacts entry.?Have her check the contacts list in her email client and edit the entry corresponding to [email protected] as needed.
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she's the only member getting emails from the group 3 and 4 days late.

There have been deliverability issues with some email providers lately (including Yahoo, if that's her posting at the bottom of your screenshot). It should resolve itself soon, but if she continues to have difficulty we won't be able to troubleshoot it without knowing who her provider is.

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Bruce

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I've attached a screen shot from one of our members who is wondering why her emails say "To: ?xxxxxx via Email Integration"

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she's the only member getting emails from the group 3 and 4 days late.

Thank you.

On Friday (15.03.24) I sent reminder messages to members who were on the Reverification list and bbc'd the Moderators for their info.
One Moderator has come back to me (another is away) saying she received two identical messages and wondered why. So do I!
Upon asking her various queations, including did she have two email addresses, she has advised me that she has but both arrived in one Inbox.
Does anyone have an idea what has caused this?

I do like that concept of of pushing photos to the files section, as that allows for the sub-folder organization. One of my groups just underwent a files reorganization. There was hope we could do the same to the photos section. We had one album of some 200 photos in a album that a member downloaded all and consolidated that story in a single pdf file.

I can see the photo section then being locked from up? loading, but the attachments folder could still be visible and serve as pointers to the discussion messages.

I just wanted to highlight that there are two controls that may be utilized to manage storage area utilized by the emailed photos album.
Those are in the "Message Policies" setting:

These allow a resolution setting that also limits the space utilized. The second says what will happen if we're bumping against the storage limit..

Cheers,
Dave F.

On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 07:42 AM, Michael Pavan wrote:

It seems the logic behind an "Emailed Photos" album is that is where Photos attached to Messages are stored (not in Messages) - which would explain how they are only counted once against Storage limits.

No, the photos are stored attached to the messages. The Emailed Photos album is not a storage location like other albums, it's just a series of pointers to the photos that were in messages. That's why those photos are only counted once towards the storage limits of a group.

Emailed Photos can be viewed in that album, or by clicking on the thumbnail displayed with the message in the Messages archive.

As above, they are not in the album.

Why it would be desirable to be able to move photos from the "Emailed Photos" album

As the photos are not in the album itself, there is no concept of moving them from there.

To be able to have all photos of an Event in an Album titled with the event's name (and perhaps date) makes finding them easier

The way to achieve that is to create a dedicated album and upload photos to it.

Management of Photos would be much, much easier if they could be moved and organized (as Files can be).

I agree. The only thing is that real photo albums have a flat structure so you can't have one album inside another like you can have one folder inside another, and it's not as simple to move them around. You can of course update your Group Settings > Features > Files and allow photos to be stored in regular folders if that helps:



In which case, the photos are listed like this and clicking the link will typically download the image which you can then view:

However, moving Photos would change their links (as it does with Files) and I'm guessing that makes it awkward for Groups.io to keep them linked to the message they originally were attached to.

As before, the Emailed Photos album is not a real album, it's just a set of pointers to photos in messages.? If you remove a photo from a message and maybe store it in a real album, then the pointer disappears from the Emailed Photos album as there's nothing to point to in the message.

Regards
Andy

It seems the logic behind an "Emailed Photos" album is that is where Photos attached to Messages are stored (not in Messages) - which would explain how they are only counted once against Storage limits.

Emailed Photos can be viewed in that album, or by clicking on the thumbnail displayed with the message in the Messages archive.


Why it would be desirable to be able to move photos from the "Emailed Photos" album (to 'custom' albums) is they may be of a particular Event and/or posted by multiple senders. To be able to have all photos of an Event in an Album titled with the event's name (and perhaps date) makes finding them easier than wading through all the photos ever sent attached to Messages.

Management of Photos would be much, much easier if they could be moved and organized (as Files can be). However, moving Photos would change their links (as it does with Files) and I'm guessing that makes it awkward for Groups.io to keep them linked to the message they originally were attached to.

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Larry,
Larry,

I have two concerns about the Emailed Photos album. My Group members continue to ask me why that album is there and what it is for; I have no answer to give them.
There seems no consensus on whether the Emailed Photos album takes up storage space in addition to the attachment in the original message (with it attached photo) stored in Messages.

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There's no double-counting, it's only counted once because it's physically stored in only one place, let's just call it attachment area archive.

If you go to Admin-Billing (for paid) or Admin-Upgrade (for free groups), you'll notice this up top:

Attachments: xxx xB - 0% of xxxGB [ View Attachments ]

This tells you how much space all types of attachments* sent in messages -and currently stored in your group's attachment area archive- take in your group. (* be it images, PDFs, ZIPs, spreadsheets, anything that was sent as an attachment or inline image)
This link is useful for viewing all those types of attachments and admin-acting accordingly, for example you wanted to sort by the largest ever attachments sent to see if there are duplicates mistakenly included in a reply so you can delete them or whatever.

But that's an admin function, so a regular user cannot do it, so the Emailed Photos album is an easy way for a regular user to be able to visually peruse all the messages' image attachments in one spot. The images shown inside it are not physically stored inside it, it's only a system link to the actual message that contained it.

Think of it as a librarian, the Admin-Billing link gives you a master inventory report of all the different attachment items you have in your library and which you only give to your employees, whereas the Email Photos album is a subreport of only the image attachment items and which you give to the patrons interested in looking at photos only.
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It is very difficult to delete multiple photos from any album, including Emailed Photos. That is a feature we *really* need!

You could make a #suggestion for it on beta. If you do, you may want to consider also adding to your suggestion the capability to delete multiple attachments (of any kind) in the above Admin-Billing-View Attachments screen, not just in Photo albums.? If you go to that Admin-Billing-View Attachments screen you'll notice it's just a list, adding checkboxes to it and allowing multiple deletion there as well will make the "cleaning-up" functionality much more useful.

Cheers,
Christos

If. you are concerned about the size of attached photos to messages, I assume you have tweaked the settings for photos in Admin. You could remove the ability to post photos at all.

See?/helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/viewing-and-managing-your-group-s-storage/managing-your-group-s-storage-space

And go to Admin, Settings, Photo. Permissions and Max Size.

Frances

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On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 06:15 PM, Larry McDavid wrote:

There seems no consensus on whether the Emailed Photos album takes up storage space in addition to the attachment in the original message (with it attached photo) stored in Messages. I know message text is not counted toward total storage but attachments do count toward storage.

Just think of the Emailed Photos album as an index of pictures that have been attached/embedded in messages.?? In that sense, the album itself takes no storage but the images it points to do.

You may not remember the subject of a message to be able to locate it in the archive but you might remember what image a message contained and you can find the message via the image as previously mentioned.? If you remove an image from a message, it disappears from the Emailed Photos album as there's no longer anything to point to.

Regards
Andy