On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 11:08 AM, Nivard Ovington wrote:

But is there a copy saved in the group somewhere?

No.? There's not even an entry in the Activity log.? Both have been requested on the beta group.? It's possible that some things like this will be part of the app at some point.

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3. Is there a way to set up a similar file but that is keywords and for reference only? *

*. On a similar note, I would want to set up reference files for our members with our posting guidelines, rejection explanations, etc.

You have lots of options for this.? You can create a file with the information in it, then send a link to those that need it.? You can put this information in your Group Guidelines which can be set to be sent out monthly.? You can Monthly Reminder notice to be sent out.

Besides the group notices, one can also use the FILES and/or WIKI sections where they can upload or create documents of this nature.

Cheers,
Christos

On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 08:33 AM, Duane wrote:

No, that's a user choice.? As an additional note, once the quote is there, you can delete parts of it that aren't needed.

Thanks Duane and Chris. I'll guide them on how to quote content sensibly for context.
Mike

I found it necessary to send a message to a subscriber via the members list

I bcc'd a copy to myself, so I have that copy

But is there a copy saved in the group somewhere?



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On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 10:30 AM, Michael A. Perry, M.D. wrote:

I never noticed the speech bubble. Is there a way to have this as the default?

No, that's a user choice.? As an additional note, once the quote is there, you can delete parts of it that aren't needed.

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On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 04:17 PM, Michael A. Perry, M.D. wrote:

When emails are sent with a newly posted reply, I want the entire thread to be included in the email.

IMHO that is a truly ghastly idea given the number of posts that some threads can accumulate. Do you really want a new reply to a topic to be accompanied by perhaps 20, 30 or more previous posts? You might but I doubt if your members will thank you for it. Over - quoting is a more or less permanent problem with some users of some groups and forcing over - quoting does not look like a good idea.

Currently, if a reply is posted via the web, there is no included context in the reply email.

That is down to members not taking the tiny amount of trouble necessary to use a sensible quote from which to work. It is not a function of posting via the web UI; users should be nudged into providing quotations on which to hang their replies.

Chris

Ah. I never noticed the speech bubble. Is there a way to have this as the default?
Thanks again.

Mike

On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 10:17 AM, Michael A. Perry, M.D. wrote:

Currently, if a reply is posted via the web, there is no included context in the reply email.
Is there a setting to change this?

No, it's up to each person to decide what, if anything, to include in their reply.? You can highlight what you want to quote before clicking the reply button (as with many email programs) or once in the reply box, use the speech bubble at the upper left to "Quote Whole Post".? See /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Message-composition-tips-and-tricks

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On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 10:11 AM, ivap wrote:

Is there a regular promotion of new groups like in the Meetup organization?

No, it's up to you to find members, or have them find you.

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When emails are sent with a newly posted reply, I want the entire thread to be included in the email. Currently, if a reply is posted via the web, there is no included context in the reply email.
Is there a setting to change this?
Thanks.
Mike

It's easy to send invitations to promote a new group if you know where to send them. That's not my case. I started a group hoping to meet similarly-minded people online. Is there a regular promotion of new groups like in the Meetup organization?

On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 08:05 AM, Moderator SamiJo wrote:

1. Is it possible to modify the “rejection” notice to state our group does not use hashtags?

You can have as many Rejected Message notices as you want.? The one that's marked active, if any, is the one that gets sent when you reject via email.? If you reject online, you can choose from the list.? I use several and name them so that I can easily select the one that's needed.? In your case, I'd probably name it "No HTs" or similar.

2. Can all the hashtags be changed in a batch to moderator only or do they need to be recreated to be changed? I didn’t see a way to change a hashtag that has already been created.

You have to edit each of them.? On the Hashtag page, click on a hashtag.? On the page that comes up, click on the Edit button in the hashtag box.? There you can change the settings for that hashtag.? Be sure to scroll down to click Update Hashtag.

3. Is there a way to set up a similar file but that is keywords and for reference only? *

*. On a similar note, I would want to set up reference files for our members with our posting guidelines, rejection explanations, etc.

You have lots of options for this.? You can create a file with the information in it, then send a link to those that need it.? You can put this information in your Group Guidelines which can be set to be sent out monthly.? You can Monthly Reminder notice to be sent out.

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On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 08:42 AM, isis feral wrote:

I agree that users should be able to choose whether they want plain text or html, and not have that left to group managers.

Sometimes it's a matter of the technical abilities of the members.? It's much easier to force HTML so that only one explanation for how it works is needed.? On a more technical group, having multiple options would be less likely to cause problems.

My own problem with digests remains that context gets eliminated in discussion threads

That's easily cured by not bottom quoting.? Bottom posting or interspersing will keep everything together. A well written reply should stand on its own.

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On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 08:04 AM, Anna wrote:

Is there a way to convert the PDF to RTF

There are programs to do this with.? I found free and paid versions available.

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On 13 Jan 2020, at 14:54, Laurence Marks <marks@...> wrote:

Suppose someone with a Yahoo group does not wish to move to Groups.io but would like an ongoing online archive available to all users. The Yahoo owner could create a Groups.io group and subscribe it to the Yahoo group, providing a searchable archive without affecting the subscribed users at all.

This used to be a recognised way of backing-up a Yahoo Group with a Google Group.

Google ditched the facility about the time Melissa Mayer left to head-up Yahoo.

David 1/2d

On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 08:04 AM, Anna wrote:

does anyone know of any Advertising promotion groups that i can join to gain more members

There have been some mentioned, but I don't recall any specific group names.? You'll probably have better luck if you post links for your group (with permission, of course) to sites and/or other groups with similar interests.? A good description of your group that people will easily find in the site directory will also help.

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On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 08:04 AM, Katia Vilarasau wrote:

Could you give some information, please ?

You can upload as much as you can, but there's no way to get a transfer done by Groups.io? If you had followed the procedure, it would have been completed.? See /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Moving-to-Groups.io for possible options.? You can also contact [email protected] to request a refund.

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On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 08:03 AM, Samuel Murray wrote:

And so, today our group got a lot of "subscribe" messages from existing
members who were told (on the Yahoogroup) that they should join the new
GIO group.

It sounds to me like the transfer wasn't very well communicated to the YG.? I think it would still be a good idea to get some sort of reply though.? You should suggest this on the beta group.

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Sorry, I have to quibble here. While group owners technically have the final say, some groups do function as a democracy, with 'owners' who merely contribute administrative duties to the group.

I've not had this particular problem with digests, but I agree that users should be able to choose whether they want plain text or html, and not have that left to group managers. My own problem with digests remains that context gets eliminated in discussion threads, which also affects our ability to forward mailings. I was initially really excited about Groups.io, and for the most part I still like it, but I wish users had more control over digests.

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