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Bruce Wilson
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My Group has the free plan and members post a lot of pictures and files that quickly use up our free storage space. As a result, older pictures or files are deleted when more storage space is needed. No problem with pictures, but most of the files need to stay.?
I am looking for a way or a service that would allow members to easily upload and download files. Ideas?
Bob

In our co-op group, it's pretty simple. We have multiple committees and social groups. If post is TO a committee or social group, it goes in the subgroup. If the post is ABOUT a committee or social group, it goes to main.

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Linda,

I have attached an image of what the member is seeing.? She is still a registered member and her email
address is correct.
Could you please advise me on what to else to check?

What Bruce said.

Also, she can check the email address she's currently logged in with by hovering over or clicking on her name in the upper right corner of any Groups.io page:

In order to access the group as a member this login email must match her entry in your group's Members list.

Shal


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Many subscribers have more than one email address. Yours seems to be logged in with the wrong one.

As owner, you could open her user record and confirm this (Admin>Members and click on the appropriate user name).

Once you figure out which address is subscribed, send that to her, and tell her to log in again with that address (see /static/help#password). I suspect that will fix the problem.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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Hi,
I have a small signature tag group.
I have attached an image of what the member is seeing.? She is still a registered member and her email
address is correct.
Could you please advise me on what to else to check?
Thank you
Kind regards
Linda

Pedja,

That rules out about 96% of my members, or even more.

Not necessarily.

On the one hand you could do it for them. Though I grant that with a large group that might be intolerably tedious, as you'd have to open each individual membership page.

On the other hand, the "Email me a link to log in" feature of Groups.io makes logging in for this purpose exceptionally simple. Click the button, enter your email address, click Send, switch to your email, open the message, click the link. You're logged in.

Nothing to set up, no password to write down or remember. Just click onto the Subscription page and change the setting. Done.

Members are often reluctant to even try logging in, especially refugees from Yahoo, but they can put that nightmare behind them. No ads, no tracking (yes, browser cookies to store their login, but not used to track them), no hassles.

Shal


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On 23.09.2018 09:50, Shal Farley wrote:

And No, unlike some other subscription options, the member can't update their Max Attachement Size without logging in.

That rules out about 96% of my members, or even more.


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On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 01:40 PM, Bruce Petrarca wrote:

What is the maximum number of subscribers that a single group account can support?

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We are looking at moving a couple of Yahoo groups, one has 7000+ members.

There is a maximum number of MESSAGES that the transfer agent will move without you paying for a year's upgrade to Premium. I'm having trouble finding it in the beta group at the moment, but IIRC it's capped at the most recent 100,000 messages. So that could come into play.

I don't believe there's any such restriction on the number of subscribers.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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Pedja,

I usually administer groups that need archive of messages and
attachments to stay intact. That means archive grows up and I need way
to prevent someone to fill it in with unnecessary large data.

Agreed. I think there needs to be a way to protect useful attachments from the auto-delete of old attachments, while still letting the clutter be auto-deleted.

Drew's idea of moving them to a permanent folder/album has been suggested before in beta and I think that's a good way to handle it.

Actually, if attachment is to large it should be delivered using some
other, external, means, and provide link.

Email is not supposed to be used to send unsolicited large data.

I do agree with this, actually.

It is why I generally have set my Yahoo Groups to "HTML - Include Attachments as links". Yes, even though that flies in the face of the argument I've made in favor of letting the member decide. But Yahoo Groups doesn't let the member decide, and it has a couple of advantages in this regard:

1) The 100 GB allocation for photos and attachments. None of my groups has yet approached this total.

2) The passed links were coded with access to a folder containing just the attachments for that message - and that link worked even for email-only members (sign in not required). Alas, the Neo redesign lost that feature along the way.

Secondly, this would not prevent anyone to send info, just prevents
users to send far to large attachments. Users can always upload on on
some site, and provide link. That is the whole point.

"On some site" - why not the group's site? That's the effect I have in Yahoo Groups, the members don't need to find, learn to use, and trust in some other site. And since most of my Y!Group members are email-only, letting them "upload" the file by email makes sense.

I know what the counter-arguments are in Groups.io. Firstly the limited storage, and secondly the lack of privileged links (though that is mitigated by the ease of logging in with Groups.io).

Shal


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On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 02:38 PM, Charis Austin wrote:

Do the messages need to be html?

Yes. These are mailto: links and do not work in plain text.?

See also??

Hope this helps,
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I don't believe there's a limit.? Looking at the groups in the directory, there's one with over 500k (updates - for the site) and a bunch in the 6-12k range.

Duane
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What is the maximum number of subscribers that a single group account can support?

To insert manually or to use in plain text in an email, hold down the ALT key and type in 0149 on the numeric keypad for ? .

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Dano

Nick,

Does anyone have an explanation of when a topic should be addressed
to all or just to the subgroup? I want people to be able to easily
decide who to send a message to and obviously, there are overlaps.

In my PTA group it is relatively clear-cut.

All of the PTA unit members (those that wished to participate) are in the primary group, which I renamed from "main" to "members". The elected board members are in a subgroup named "board". I have other subgroups for various working committees (event planning, etc.).

That makes it pretty clear, in most cases, where one should send a given message according to which subgroup of the membership "needs to know". When discussing the details of planning an event the message should go to that subgroup rather than clutter the inboxes of the entire membership. Likewise if you're discussing something sensitive it most likely should go to the board, not to a committee or the whole membership.

In my PTA group there's a strong mapping to "real life" subgroups of people who share a common interest or function within the PTA unit. Your group's situation may be different, but you may be able to apply the same principle of forming the subgroups around common interests within the overall membership.

Shal


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On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 03:22 AM, Shal Farley wrote:

When You set limit on incoming mail, that means message would be
bounced and sender would be informed that his message is too large
(that actually happens on each classical mail server, when someone
tries to send too big email).

That presumably happens with Groups.io as well, but the limit might be much larger than classical email servers, and would not be under an individual group's control.

I seem to recall a discussion in beta on how big an email could be and still be remailed to subscribers (again, assuming they were set to "unlimited"). It was something like 100MB or a ridiculously high number along those lines.

As best I can tell, groups.io does nothing to throttle down how big of an attachment someone could place on a message composed using the online message editor (or uploaded to the Files area, for that matter). So we cannot hang our hat on huge messages being bounced by intervening mail servers.?

Bruce?
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I assume you are using the online message editor?

• Doing that, I am

able to bullet selected
lines by simply placing

• the mouse cursor in that

line and then hitting the

• "bulleted list" item on the menu bar.

You can also toggle it on while you are typing and toggle off when you are done. Each carriage return in this mode generates a new bullet.

This using Firefox in Windows XP. Works the same way in Chrome on W10. What is your hardware/OS?

I hope this helps, but it probably doesn't.

Bruce
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