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Woe is me !

Martin WHEELER
 

Can anyone help me here ?

Owner/creator of the "AvalonARC" [Amateur Radio Club] group, I've somehow managed to change my status from Owner/Moderator to simple member.
Don't know how I did it (I was trying to add a new member directly, and somehow screwed up) -- how do I now re-instate myself to my previous status ?
Any help/tips most welcome.

Martin Wheeler - G5FM


Feature Request / Suggestion. Ability to search the title field in pictures

 

I own a group with lots of pics.? It would be a good feature to be able to search the title field in the photos section to be able to find related pics.

Peter Dub¨¦


Re: Major issues in my group, spoofed or something internal in IO??? Help please.

 

Thank you Chris & Shal, I? will keep anything nasties and their moderation notices if I should get any more, nothing since the ones I mentioned. I have? sent 2 to the owners address for you Shal, one is probably no good anyway.?
Also please ignore my stupidity about the messages from 'me' going through without being moderated, I'm not stupid but I am not very well at the moment & am making daft mistakes like overpaying my husband by ?94 for some college books yesterday. My focus is off and I'm trying to juggle fixing my nieces laptop, trouble a shower issue and sort this mess out aswell on top my usual group stuff and personal e-mail!?
All my group stuff does appear to be archived in Gmail as I can see all my messages there under 'everything' else once my inbox is clear. But definitely none of the nasties are there or in my sent folder at all.?
Thank you for taking a look at the first one for me, the one entitled simply 'hi'? ? ?The spammer clearly doesn't have grammatical skills.?


Re: Groups.io site updates #changelog

 

On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 09:41 AM, Shal Farley wrote:
Stripping the inbound hashtags is a lot gentler on the group members than rejecting their posts. I'm not sure why a group moderator would choose to bounce the messages with hashtags, now that there's a choice.
Agreed. I checked the group I moderate and found that it was set to "bounce" so moderators might be advised to check their own groups just to be certain that the setting is what they want it to be.

Chris


Groups.io site updates #changelog

 

Hi all,

This week's change log:


Feel free to reply to this topic if you'd like to comment on the
changes. Or better yet, if you expect a lot of discussion start a new
topic (or rejoin an existing one) about a specific change.


NEW: Replaced the 'Only Moderators Can Create Hashtags' checkbox with
a dropdown, allowing messages with new hashtags to be either
bounced, or the new hashtags to be removed.
Stripping the inbound hashtags is a lot gentler on the group members than rejecting their posts. I'm not sure why a group moderator would choose to bounce the messages with hashtags, now that there's a choice.


Comments about these others are also welcome:

API: Changed group field: restrict_create_hash_tags is now
hash_tag_permissions.
SYSADMIN: Fixed log rotation issues on the DNS servers.
NEW: When exporting group data, you can now export hashtag data.
SYSADMIN: Now serving the cookie consent js/css code locally instead
of from a CDN, because that was timing out.
OTHER: Sent out the GDPR Privacy Policy update email. Dealt with a
bunch of angry responses.
INTERNAL: Deleted all user accounts not subscribed to any groups (or
only subscribed to updates@) that were at least one month old.
BUGFIX: Fix internal crash when a non-moderator of a subgroup rejects
via email a pending message.
BUGFIX: The FBL processing code was ignoring reports from some
domains.
CHANGE: Better behavior when uploading multiple files and one of them
is a duplicate of an existing file. Previously we would disgard all
files in the upload. Now we keep all of them up to the point of the
duplicate.
BUGFIX: If a file was renamed with either / or \ in the name, the file
would be unlinked and unreachable. Fixed the bug and re-linked the
affected files.
INTERNAL: Made exportuser and exportgroup more reliable when dealing
with large amounts of data.
Please call out any you find significant.

Shal


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Re: Subgroups error page "server IP address could not be found" #subgroups

 

Michael,

I favor the simpler:
mygroup[at]groups.io
and
mygroup.subgroup[at]groups.io
I was going to say that that ship had sailed long ago. But not entirely. Some quick checks with my test group shows that the legacy subgroup addressing formats still work:

[email protected] and
/g/mygroup+subgroup

cf:

However, those are deprecated - meaning that the site will convert them to the subdomain format when you use them. So trying to use them now would probably create more confusion than just explaining how to use the subdomain format.

Shal


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Re: Settings question

 

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Mike,

??? I don't understand "reports a message"

Members can "report" group content which they feel violates the group's rules, or the Groups.io TOS. The Report function is in the More menu, in the bar below each message:

Screen shot
        of More menu

This brings up a form where the member can enter their complaint and choose whether to send the report to the Group owners/mods, or to Groups.io support.

Shal


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Settings question

Mike Murray
 


??? Hi,? this is showing my ignorance but I'm not sure what the following means.
It is located in both the Owner and Moderator notifications section of settings.

Email when someone reports a message.

??? I don't understand "reports a message"

Thanks,

Mike
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Re: Subgroups error page "server IP address could not be found" #subgroups

 

Thanks, I guess.

I don't understand the rational behind jumbling up a group's email addresses as a consequence of creating subgroups. I'm sure many of my groups' members would also be confused by it, and I don't want to have to try to explain and justify these switcher-roos, so I doubt I'll every permit subgroups to be activated.

If subgroups must be:
subgroup[at]mygroup.groups.io
rather than change the address format, groups should start (and remain) with:
main[at]mygroup.groups.io

I favor the simpler:
mygroup[at]groups.io
and
mygroup.subgroup[at]groups.io


Consistency of form is more understandable and feels more reliable, which (to me at least) is most desirable.


Re: Subgroups error page "server IP address could not be found" #subgroups

 

Michael,

Are you saying when a subgroup is created that the main group remains unchanged:
mygroup[at]
?
I'm saying that address continues to work - it is made an alias for the new name.
?
And are subgroups:
mygroup.subgroup[at]
?
No, they are subgroup[at] -- see the wiki page about Subgroups.
?
?
(the Your Groups drop-list)
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(the Groups.io home page list of your groups)
?
Shal
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Re: Subgroups error page "server IP address could not be found" #subgroups

 

On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 03:11 PM, Michael Pavan wrote:
And are subgroups:
mygroup.subgroup[at]groups.io
No, subgroups would be subgroup[at]mygroup.groups.io? The main group becomes main[at]mygroup.groups.io (unless you change main to something else), but can still be accessed via email using mygroup[at]groups.io
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Re: Subgroups error page "server IP address could not be found" #subgroups

 


I then went to create subgroups and now I cant access the either group (main or sub). I get the "This site can't be reached" error window on chrome.
The act of creating a subgroup changes the way groups.io addresses your primary group...your group becomes a subdomain of groups.io. Thus mygroup[at]groups.io automagically becomes main[at]mygroup.groups.io.

For consistency and to not create confusion, it would be best when a subgroup is created that the main group should remain unchanged:

It does. Aliases are created for the original (primary) group web and email addresses.
If it remains unchanged, please explain the changes others described and why there are problems.

Are you saying when a subgroup is created that the main group remains unchanged:
mygroup[at]groups.io

And are subgroups:
mygroup.subgroup[at]groups.io
so that if one were in subgroups of more than one group that had the same name (e.g. Board, Recruitment, Management, Fundraising, etc) the identity of each subgroup is preceded by the main group¡¯s name, to avoid accidental mis-addressing and so an alphabetical listing or sorting of subgroups (and groups) would cluster all subgroups of any group together.


Re: Subgroups error page "server IP address could not be found" #subgroups

 

Michael,

For consistency and to not create confusion, it would be best when a subgroup is created that the main group should remain unchanged:

It does. Aliases are created for the original (primary) group web and email addresses.
Shal


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Re: Subgroups error page "server IP address could not be found" #subgroups

 

I then went to create subgroups and now I cant access the either group (main or sub). I get the "This site can't be reached" error window on chrome.
The act of creating a subgroup changes the way groups.io addresses your primary group...your group becomes a subdomain of groups.io. Thus mygroup[at]groups.io automagically becomes main[at]mygroup.groups.io.
For consistency and to not create confusion, it would be best when a subgroup is created that the main group should remain unchanged:
mygroup[at]groups.io
or at worst, changed to mygroup.main[at]groups.io

and the subgroup should be:
mygroup.subgroup[at]groups.io
so that if one were in subgroups of more than one group that had the same name (e.g. Board, Recruitment, Management, Fundraising, etc) the identity of each subgroup is preceded by the main group¡¯s name, to avoid accidental mis-addressing and so an alphabetical listing or sorting of subgroups (and groups) would cluster all subgroups of any group together.


Re: Unsolicited join requests

 

We have a minor problem with our restricted-membership group. Although the "Join This Group" button disappears from the main group page, the subscription email addresses are still there. The person responsible for managing group membership finds this annoying.
In Admin: Members
go to that Moderator's
Notifications
and uncheck:
Email when there are members needing approval
this will allow that Moderator to be unaware of subscription/membership requests.


We want to be able to add members by invitation/direct add only.
Good idea for an option.

Is there any way to completely turn off join requests?
It appears not at this time.


Re: Members able to make attachments via email but not on the website

 

Hi,
The sender of the message with the mystery attachment and blank frame in the "Emailed Photos" file in our group uses comcast.net mail?but accesses it through Microsoft Office/Outlook 2010.? She is running Windows 8.1.? I hope that makes sense.

Thanks,
Maureen?


Re: Subgroups error page "server IP address could not be found" #subgroups

 

On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Gavin Phillips wrote:
I then went to create subgroups and now I cant access the either group (main or sub). I get the "This site can't be reached" error window on chrome.
The act of creating a subgroup changes the way groups.io addresses your primary group...your group becomes a subdomain of groups.io. Thus mygroup[at]groups.io?automagically becomes main[at]mygroup.groups.io.

This change has to be spread throughout the 'net, which is why the nameserver (the device your ISP uses to resolve domain addressing into IP addresses) might get confused for awhile. To ensure your browser is not caching the old name, be sure to do a hard refresh (CTRL-F5), and you might also find it necessary to change a bookmark or two.

Regards,
Bruce?
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Re: Welcome message

 

Don,

In groups that require membership approval, I presume that the welcome
message is not sent until after the membership is approved.
Correct. The Pending Subscription notice at the time of application.

I forget whether the Group Guidelines are sent (if you checked that box) at application or at approval, but I think the latter. Though I recall some discussion that it should be at application.

Shal


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Re: Major issues in my group, spoofed or something internal in IO??? Help please.

 

Gilly,

I don't understand how they're going to my group because Annette and I
would have binned these and banned said member if they had been in the
q.
You said the messages were coming in under your name - implying that your email address was used. If you yourself were not moderated at the time that's how they got through. Groups.io's software didn't know it wasn't actually you. (I think it could have, but that's a longer story and not relevant at the moment).

Shal


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Re: Subgroups error page "server IP address could not be found" #subgroups

 

Gavin,

I get the "This site can't be reached" error window on chrome.
It can take a bit for the new DNS entries to propagate into your browser. They are likely cached by your ISP, possibly by your home router, by your computer OS, and perhaps the browser as well.

Shal


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