Looks pretty good, Chris! My only comment at this time is on Max Size in Email, near the very end. I believe this setting only applies to photo attachments; embedded images are automatically rescaled to not more than 640px in the long dimension (ref:??).

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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Starting this morning messages have been posted to out group, but are not being e-mailed to me (Outlook and Hotmail accounts). I have NOT modified anything in the group settings for over a wekkand this only started today (8-7-18).?

I also have a non-owner account that is NOT receiveing group.io e-mails either.

I am receiving messages from others, but NOTHING from groups.io (including today's posts on this group).
Neither of my groups.io accounts arebouncing.

I went to Subscriptions and the following "appears" to tell me noting was sent out although message#s #129205- #129207 were posted on the group today.

Does "No E-mail deliveries" mean that e-mail delivery is somehow turned off?

Any help would be appreciated.

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On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 04:53 PM, I wrote:

Don't go looking for it yet as it's still very much in nth draft, where n is an increasingly large integer.

Now you can go and look for it. It got up to 22 Revisions in preparation, and I have uploaded it to the GMF wiki Web Features list as Management of Attachments, Photos and Files. (Linked, obviously)

A direct link to it is here. Comments / edits as required... there is still work to be done but there should be enough to be going on with.

Chris

On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 05:55 AM, Tom H wrote:

I am bothered that the reply has gone into a black hole. Neither sender nor
owner gets any indication of that. And the settings are about emails being
delivered to the owner and silent about there being no archive of them. I'll
bet they are still in the system, just inaccessible from the owner's
interface.

I'm not sure whether this trick would work, but you can try: ban that non-subscriber (former member): Members - Banned, copy-paste the email address, Ban User; in the Banned list click the row, click "+owner Messages". Then unban (remove from Banned list: Membership - Remove).

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Sounds like you may have been on New User Moderated status:


However, the 1st N messages would have to be approved before switching to unmoderated status.??
An owner/moderator can view the message activity and see what happened.? (Admin -> Activity -> Message Activity)

Toby

I use the web interface as you can see the status of your service request there. You may need to login using your groups.io credentials.


Sending an email to support@... also works to get the ball rolling.
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[mod note: despite the confusing language about signing in to groups.io, zendesk is an independent service: to use it you'll need to set up an account there.]

I have a couple of people who have subscribed to one of my lists, but have never confirmed their email and thus are in limbo as far as getting and sending messages on the list. Both have "hotmail.com" addresses. I have been in touch with them and am trying to help them get confirmed. I've sent them additional confirmation emails and we'll see what happens. Is hotmail known for putting these kind of messages into spam? Do they have a whitelist process I can suggest? Is there anything else I can do to help these people finalize their subscriptions?

Thanks.

Jonathan

Chris,

The (serious) downside is that the font size is such that it feels as
though one's eyeballs are being attacked with a lump hammer; ...

I had the same reaction.

For GMF's longer pages I simply capitulated, reasoning that the utility of the TOC outweighed the style. I sort-of get the problem: in order to have many levels you end up with extremes at the top and bottom levels.

I've toyed with the idea of looking at the CSS for the wiki to see if those header styles can be adjusted to suit the nesting depth of a given page; but I've never found the round tuit appropriate to that task.

Either I am doing something silly (a possibility that cannot be
discounted!) or the ToC formatting is completely awry.

All I can tell you is that every time I tried to get clever with the header levels the TOC punished me for it. I've only had success by ensuring that I've used the headers in proper hierarchy and that every other paragraph is a P.

I think I will ditch the idea of any ToC ... rather than hold up the
production of the wiki page; after all it's the substance of it that
matters rather than having a ToC at the top.

Agreed, content is king.

Until I made my peace with the way it looks my pages also went without a TOC. And not every page is long enough or structured enough to need one.

Shal


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On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 05:29 PM, I wrote:

I was actually thinking of incorporating it, never mind linking to it!.

I have now unthought that; I have included a link to it. (Don't go looking for it yet as it's still very much in nth draft, where n is an increasingly large integer.)

Chris

Recently I sent an email that was held for monitoring. I resent it and saw it go through without monitoring. How can I debug something that's inconsistent? Subsequent emails were sometimes going through and sometimes were held for monitoring. Someone suggested that the problem might be with showing my phone number in my signature. I removed the phone number and haven't had an email held for monitoring since. Can anyone shed light on this issue?

On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 04:21 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

You have run into the same thing I did when I tried to do a TOC for our wiki. Very quickly abandoned that notion in favor of a bullet list and anchor tags.

I'm relieved that it's not just me then! On reflection this wiki section will really need to be read as a complete document anyway, in which case a ToC might be a distraction. A neat post - facto rationalisation of why I have given up on that route...

And (FWIW) the dog walk was devoid of inspiration, enlightenment, visions, visitations and other phenomena. Probably just as well, really. One or two ideas to follow up, though.

Chris

This should be sent to support.


[mod note: but not if the In Process page answers the question]

On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 09:25 AM, Chris Jones wrote:

If I make the section titles in h1 then the ToC works as one would want. The (serious) downside is that the font size is such that it feels as though one's eyeballs are being attacked with a lump hammer; it's far, far worse than an email written IN CAPITALS! etc...

You have run into the same thing I did when I tried to do a TOC for our wiki. Very quickly abandoned that notion in favor of a bullet list and anchor tags.

Good luck,
Bruce?
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On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 09:24 AM, Bostjan Voncina wrote:

I invited more then 10 times in the last 2 months the email [email protected] to our yahoo group S51A@....
The other groups that we have could transfer without any problems. But here we never got the [email protected] to join our group.

So i'm stuck now, where is the problem ?

It sometimes takes awhile for the transfer agent to accept your invitation. It is the longest step in the process.

Go to the transfer page at?/yahootransfer?
Scroll to the bottom and select your group S51A from the In Process menu.
On the resulting page, look for a grey box at the top. It should say something like "We have received your invitation and will accept it soon. There is no need to send another invite."

If it says that, you are all set, all you can do is wait. If it doesn't say that, then it seems that Yahoo is continuing to have problems with their invitation system.

Hope this helps,
Bruce?
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Thanks for the explanation, Bruce. I have made my member list available to my members now. So now I will explain to all of them the difference.
Annick

On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 12:10 PM, I wrote:

I'll put it to the test later today and report back.

Almost a case of curiouser and curiouser...

If I make the section titles in h1 then the ToC works as one would want. The (serious) downside is that the font size is such that it feels as though one's eyeballs are being attacked with a lump hammer; it's far, far worse than an email written IN CAPITALS!

I then tried h3 section titles, and set the page name at the top to be h1 and then added another line after it in h2; this should have satified the requirement to have "lower" header sizes prior to those selected for the ToC. Once again the finished ToC was a mess, and for some reason included the h1 & h2 sizes as well as the specified maximum of h3. Even having h2 titles under the h1 page name failed as well.

Either I am doing something silly (a possibility that cannot be discounted!) or the ToC formatting is completely awry.

I think I will ditch the idea of any ToC or linked Index at the top (I don't know how to do one of them either) rather than hold up the production of the wiki page; after all it's the substance of it that matters rather than having a ToC at the top.

Perhaps walking the dog shortly will provide further inspiration and enlightenment...

Chris