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Re: Is there a way to move posts from one topic to another? #moderation

 

Rick,

Having said all that, the way the WEB site can and does change the old
messages dynamically and in real-time (like adding your picture to ALL
messages later, in hindsight,) is very cool...
Notably that example is a change to the metadata about the message, not a change to the message content itself.

Message content changes only through explicit edits to the content. Either by the posting member him/herself (if allowed by the group) or by a moderator.

And when a post has been edited, it gains an Edited badge next to its posting date. Clicking that badge takes you to a list of revisions. As J said, prior revisions must be explicitly deleted else they stay there and one can use the compare function to see what was changed.
For example: /g/GroupManagersForum/message/6474

Shal
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Re: Is there a way to move posts from one topic to another? #moderation

 

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Why would editing a past post be helpful?...If that¡¯s what¡¯s been talked about.

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Subject: Re: [GMF] Is there a way to move posts from one topic to another? #moderation

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I've done the multiple memberships with different permissions for Years. (At Y!)

Moving on... (About editing.)
In 1989, FDR (First Data Resources) a major Credit Card Processor experimented
with allowing merchants to edit transactions "after the fact" but before their batch closings
were sent -- generally at close of business for the day.
It created chaos and confusion (mistakes happened before or after) and allowed fraud.
Nothing was trackable.

QuickBooks (by Intuit) allowed similar edits 'Company File wide' (which is reasonable)
but allowed the audit trail file to be turned off. (So no record of who did what or when.)
It is unlikely they did CC merchant accounts at that time so that is unrelated.
(I was an Online-Banking Beta Tester, Nebula ver5 all the way to last build 93. 1996)
(I'm in EasterEgg.)

Getting back to how this relates to Group actions:
Allowing edits with no re-sends is a slippery slope. (The above samples are very condensed.)
I like the warning normal Group members get that re-sends are going to be done and to
not abuse that feature. (And how the WEB archives auto deletes the original message.)

Having said all that, the way the WEB site can and does change the old messages
dynamically and in real-time (like adding your picture to ALL messages later, in hindsight,)
is very cool...

Rick

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photo albums

 

I see now under the photo albums I have a name for every member and then my name appears under every one of them. I am the only one who puts photos in the albums.
My members dont know how to do it and I do it for all of them. Is there a way to take my name off the albums of all of the members? I really dont like this feature for my group.

Anita
Re: Is there a way to move posts from one topic to another? #moderation

 

Bruce,

... (except this one, where editing is disabled anyway).
No, it isn't. Perhaps you're thinking of beta?

Shal


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Re: Is there a way to move posts from one topic to another? #moderation

 

Paul,

Could not the 'split', then 'merged' (i.e., merged) topic keep the
same name (or mostly the same name) but be distinguished from the
orignal topic by using a hashtag on the original topic to set it a
part from the moved message that was split off?
In the scenario I was describing the misplaced message already had the wrong subject, which is (in part) why it was misplaced from correct topic. In that case the temporary subject I give it when splitting it (if that's necessary) doesn't really matter because no email will be sent with that particular subject. Then when I merge it into the correct topic the temporary subject will disappear altogether from the Messages list.

Shal


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Re: Groups.io icon - SVG format -- is there one?

 

Marla,

... the Groups.io envelope icon. Is there an SVG of this available?
The logo originated in a contest at 99designs. Clicking through to their site I don't see any ability for us (the public) to download the image in any form. Which makes sense, only the owner of the image should have that ability.


It seems likely to me that only Mark has access to any quality better than what you find on the site's pages.

Shal


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Tansfer complete without calendar #calendar

Southenders Admin
 

So I have now completed my members' transfer. But I just discovered that calendar events are not transferred.?

Any ideas about best practices to get them from Yahoo?
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Re: Is there a way to move posts from one topic to another? #moderation

J_Catlady
 

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 10:03 am, RickGlaz wrote:
I like the warning normal Group members get that re-sends are going to be done and to
not abuse that feature. (And how the WEB archives auto deletes the original message.)
I'm not 100% sure what you mean by that, but although the original message is replaced in the display with the edited message, the original message is actually not auto-deleted. If you want to wipe out the original message, you have to go into the edit history and explicitly delete the original. (The ability for the moderator to delete it was a hard-won battle in beta around a year ago.)
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Re: Groups.io site updates #changelog

 

On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 04:48 pm, Shal Farley wrote:
Hopefully this will help reduce the overall confusion. See also:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Removed-for-spam
I am stuck at the moment because I am still waiting for a copy of the new message to members who find themselves cast into the outer darkness; until I get it I cannot add it to the work-in-progress wiki. (No; I haven't simply forgotten about it!) Mark may not have seen the post I put in beta that followed his original announcement of the change, and I am hopeful that the message I sent to "support" might prove fruitful. It was sent a couple of days ago and I know that for perfectly valid reasons the turnaround time there is a bit long.

From various other threads / posts on this and the betagroup forum "messages to prospective / actual members" and "interrnal processes" are something of a black hole to moderators, which is a pity. IMHO an awful lot of of the queries that arise could be prevented if the Help section had more information in it. I know that is easy to say, but that doesn't stop it being true.

Regards,

Chris
Re: Groups.io site updates #changelog

Gerald Boutin
 

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 07:03 am, Bruce Bowman wrote:
On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 04:48 pm, Shal Farley wrote:
NEW: Display the name of the owner of each photo album.
I requested this recently in beta...all appreciation to Mark!

It will come in handy for cleaning out photo albums owned by those who subsequently leave the group.

Bruce
Now, (wish, wish) if we only had the ability to edit the owner for photo albums. The Yahoo group transfer process was not successful at bringing over folder owner names. I can't see any settings that would pertain to this. Perhaps some default permission for Group Owner/Moderator to change the ownership of the folder.
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Re: Is there a way to move posts from one topic to another? #moderation

RickGlaz
 

I've done the multiple memberships with different permissions for Years. (At Y!)

Moving on... (About editing.)
In 1989, FDR (First Data Resources) a major Credit Card Processor experimented
with allowing merchants to edit transactions "after the fact" but before their batch closings
were sent -- generally at close of business for the day.
It created chaos and confusion (mistakes happened before or after) and allowed fraud.
Nothing was trackable.

QuickBooks (by Intuit) allowed similar edits 'Company File wide' (which is reasonable)
but allowed the audit trail file to be turned off. (So no record of who did what or when.)
It is unlikely they did CC merchant accounts at that time so that is unrelated.
(I was an Online-Banking Beta Tester, Nebula ver5 all the way to last build 93. 1996)
(I'm in EasterEgg.)

Getting back to how this relates to Group actions:
Allowing edits with no re-sends is a slippery slope. (The above samples are very condensed.)
I like the warning normal Group members get that re-sends are going to be done and to
not abuse that feature. (And how the WEB archives auto deletes the original message.)

Having said all that, the way the WEB site can and does change the old messages
dynamically and in real-time (like adding your picture to ALL messages later, in hindsight,)
is very cool...

Rick

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Re: Groups.io site updates #changelog

 

On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 04:48 pm, Shal Farley wrote:
NEW: For enterprise groups, add a link back to Groups.io under the
account dropdown in the upper right.
I was very happy to see this change...it makes switching between my enterprise groups and my regular groups much easier

Linda Perry
Re: Groups.io icon - SVG format -- is there one?

Gerald Boutin
 

Maria,

There are several online sites that can change image files to svg. For example, you can select this png file ( /img/org.1/mainlogo.png?) and have it converted to an svg file such as this. Of course, it would look better when the background is not white.



http://pngtosvg.com/
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On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 01:47 am, Marla M wrote:
Hi there,

We're in the process of replacing all the Yahoo references on our website with Groups.io now that we've switched. We have a Y! icon in the footer, which now needs to be replaced with the Groups.io envelope icon. Is there an SVG of this available? Or only the PNG that is in use here on the Groups.io website?

Thank you!
Re: bouncing

Gerald Boutin
 

On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 09:30 pm, Southenders Admin wrote:
I deleted the member and reinstated him. No more missing email
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Norm
Norm,

I am pretty sure you are referring to the comment I made in a previous post. Happy to hear that it worked.

However, I have also been following your quest to transfer a group from Yahoo to groups.io. Are these two different instances? You've said in other posts that no members have yet joined the group that you are in the process of transferring. Was your question about missing email about a different groupsio group or was it an issue on the Yahoo group you are transferring?
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Re: Is there a way to move posts from one topic to another? #moderation

 

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 07:37 am, Bruce Bowman wrote:
I own all of the groups that I participate in (except this one

Many of us create a separate 'member' account on our groups so we can see and test this sort of thing.? Might minimize the surprises later.

Duane
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Re: Is there a way to move posts from one topic to another? #moderation

 
Edited

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 07:08 am, Duane wrote:
NOT resending is only an option for a moderator.?
See, this is one of those undocumented things that I never run across because I own all of the groups that I participate in. I guess I need to incrementally take away my own privileges and see what other surprises are in store...or create a second member account as Duane suggested.

Thanks Duane!

Bruce
Re: Is there a way to move posts from one topic to another? #moderation

 

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 07:03 am, Bruce Bowman wrote:
In this case the poster/editor has the option to re-send to the group, but many of them don't

NOT resending is only an option for a moderator.? An edit by a regular member will always be sent again.

Duane
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Re: #transfer #subgroups #transfer #subgroups

 

On Mar 24, 2018, at 10:01 AM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

You can rename a group any time you want. It's not advisable to do so because it confuses people and their email client. It's when you delete a group that you can't reuse the name unless you can get it freed up by contacting support.
A reminder that when you rename a group or subgroup, that any instructions, intro letter, etc., do not automatically correct to the new name. You need to recheck everything.

Sharon
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Re: Moderator Permissions Problems

 

Please note the distinction between the Members list and the Directory. The former is under the Admin section and is used to edit permissions, subscription info and to send private communications. The latter is a semi-public place to identify group members and share profile information.

This may be obvious to you but perhaps not to your friend in Germany. It is frequent source of confusion in discussions of this nature.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
Re: Groups.io site updates #changelog

 

On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 04:48 pm, Shal Farley wrote:
NEW: Display the name of the owner of each photo album.
I requested this recently in beta...all appreciation to Mark!

It will come in handy for cleaning out photo albums owned by those who subsequently leave the group.

Bruce
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