Re: Having to only approve members but not approved members messages having some issues
Joseph, What our group does is send out a "pending member notice" containing a short questionnaire that must be returned via email. You can find the pending member form in Settings --> Member Notices --> Pending Subscription and fill it out to your liking. It will automatically go out from the +owner address to the pending member. The pending member's response will go to the +owner address, and then you can decide whether or not to approve the member. J
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Having to only approve members but not approved members messages having some issues
Hello folks, I'm having some issues getting my group situated here. I am call owning a group with a friend. And we had decided that we wanted to screen members that are coming into our group, but not postings. Just because we know who are subscribers will be.. Because I can't seem to find the proper action that I need to take. I tried explaining to Mark what I wanted, but he has not gotten back to me.?
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Re: question about deleting a subgroup
Mark answered my submission to [email protected]. His answer was very concise: We don't currently recycle group names except when asked. If you run into this, you can email us and we're recycle a given name for you. So that's the answer. I'll keep the subgroup around for now and lock it down. --jeffp
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Re: Editing One's Own Messages
A lot of groups, including mine, and even including beta, have turned off editing because it turned out to be a headache. In many cases members were not aware that a separate email hoes out for every edit, even minor ones, sometimes forcing the other members to read through the same text multiple times to tell what changed (members making the edit often don't bother to fill in th 'reason for edit' box).
However, all the prior versions will stay in the archives unless a moderator explicitly deletes them by hand, one by one. So you don't lose the history. The proof edits can be seen by anyone in the group by clicking on the blue 'edited' button.
Even if you turn off editing in your group, moderators can still edit messages when deemed necessary. This comes in very handy for removing unacceptable content, fixing bad errors, etc (in an unmoderated group). The moderator can choose to send out an email to the group with the edited message, or not send one so that only users who read via the web will see the modification. Either way, the member whose message gets edited always receives notice of that.
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On Aug 31, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Sharon Villines <sharon@...> wrote:
I¡¯m wondering about the value of letting subscribers edit their own messages. The archives are often used to clarify what someone said or didn¡¯t say. If those messages can be edited, one never knows.
What is the advantage of this?
Sharon
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Sharon Villines, Historic Takoma Park, Washington DC
Where all roads lead to Casablanca
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Editing One's Own Messages
I¡¯m wondering about the value of letting subscribers edit their own messages. The archives are often used to clarify what someone said or didn¡¯t say. If those messages can be edited, one never knows.
What is the advantage of this?
Sharon
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Sharon Villines, Historic Takoma Park, Washington DC
Where all roads lead to Casablanca
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Deb, Hi, we have, with all your help, successfully migrated here from Yahoo.
We are wondering: When members want to use a non-yahoo email address for
login, the best practice is to re-invite and delete the yahoo entry? No. The best practice is for them to go into their Groups.io profile and change their email address. Doing this will preserve the linkage between their subscription and their content (messages, files, etc.) - both transferred and new. With that linkage intact they have the ability to delete or edit their own content. If they were to join anew, then the new subscription would be treated as a wholly different person. If they're recently transferred from a Yahoo group chances are that they have not yet logged in at the Groups.io site. When they do, tell them to start by logging in using the email address they currently have in your group (their Yahoo address). Once they've confirmed that email address (received a confirmation message, and clicked through a link in it) then they'll be logged in under their current address, and can access its profile to change the Email address. Yes, it may seem contradictory to start by confirming the email address that he/she does not wish to use, but it is a necessary first step to ensure that he/she really is the person who owns that email address. That confirmation gives them access to their Profile page. And if we do that does it change the or delete any messages in the
archive that we transferred over? Nothing in the archive would be changed or deleted in either case. Shal
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Hi, we have, with all your help, successfully migrated here from Yahoo. We are wondering: When members want to use a non-yahoo email address for login, the best practice is to re-invite and delete the yahoo entry? And if we do that does it change the or delete any messages in the archive that we transferred over? Deb C. New England Wax
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Is it permissible to copy these Wiki pages to our group? Deb C.? New England Wax
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Re: Security Compared to YahooGroups
Sharon, I'm preparing to move a 3,000 member list to groups.io. When I
announced this I was asked by a subscriber whether the security was
good.
I have no idea, really, what he meant but is the security as good as
YahooGroups, however good that is? People mean so very many different things by "security". Short answer: what J said - just say yes it is good. Even trying to answer for the limited definition of server security (the ability of an unauthorized person to access your information stored on Groups.io's servers) would require a kind of security audit; and I have neither the training nor access to perform one. There are a variety of available tools to help a site administrator to "stress test" the security of their servers, but I don't know whether Groups.io has used them or other methods to evaluate their security setup. I know from prior conversations in beta@ that Groups.io is using Amazon cloud storage for at least some of user data storage. Amazon has a pretty good reputation for their part of the security "attack surface". I don't think that's the whole story though. I don't know if all storage is there, nor do I know where the computing platform is. That could all be Amazon, but it wouldn't have to be. In terms of security of your information on its way to and from Groups.io it seems like they have that covered for both web and email. Both types of connections are made using industry standard encryption protocols. Account security is covered by the user's choice of one-time passwords (log in by email) or conventional passwords. The main threat to your account security is your email service: if someone has access to your email the game's over: they can use a one-time password or reset your conventional password. If you opt for a conventional password then the strength, or lack of strength, of that password also represents a vulnerability (for any service). Groups.io does not presently have a second sign-in scheme like Yahoo, which one can use to lock down access to your account to someone who has access to either a computer you've used, your email, or your mobile phone. That scheme is very effective against those who guess or steal (phish) passwords. So not having it represents a weakness relative to Yahoo, for someone who chooses a conventional password. Of course, if you don't actually use that Yahoo feature then it isn't an advantage. Groups.io also does not presently have a page where you can view recent access to your account. That isn't itself a vulnerability, but it fails to provide reassurance - or warning - about compromise of one's account. There are probably other aspects of "security" I haven't thought of. But that's my top-of-the-head take on it. Shal
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Re: Best way to back-up a message archive?
Maria, I was exploring that and see it opens the archive up as plain text (sort
of?) in a browser page... is it supposed to download it to a file? (i'm
using firefox). Not by itself. So, then when it's in the browser window what do you do...? As Lena said, use the browser's File | Save As feature to save that page to a file on your computer. And yes - would LOVE for there to be a one or two click way to routinely
back it up to a cloud based system. Store that file in a folder that is automatically sync'd to a cloud service. If you have the Dropbox app on your computer it can do that for you. Cloud backup services like Carbonite would sweep that up along with all your other files. Shal
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Re: Best way to back-up a message archive?
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 03:44 pm, HR Tech wrote:
I was exploring that and see it opens the archive up as plain text (sort of?)
in a browser page... is it supposed to download it to a file? (i'm using
firefox).
Right-click the Download Archives button and choose "Save as...". The downloaded file is in "unix mailbox" format. You can open it in Thunderbird.
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Re: Best way to back-up a message archive?
I was exploring that and see it opens the archive up as plain text (sort of?) in a browser page... is it supposed to download it to a file? (i'm using firefox). So, then when it's in the browser window what do you do...? And yes - would LOVE for there to be a one or two click way to routinely back it up to a cloud based system. Maria
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Re: Best way to back-up a message archive?
You can download the message archive - in Settings. However it would be nice to automate this to save to Dropbox or the cloud. Frances
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Best way to back-up a message archive?
Hoping other group owners can help. What's the best way to keep local back-ups of one's group archive on a regular basis? Is there a way you do it via groups.io? or do you use something else to make sure you have all the archive and current posts on your own system? Thank you! Maria
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Re: Security Compared to YahooGroups
Just say, 'Yes.' Lol
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On Aug 30, 2016, at 7:56 AM, Sharon Villines <sharon@...> wrote:
I¡¯m preparing to move a 3,000 member list to groups.io. When I announced this I was asked by a subscriber whether the security was good.
I have no idea, really, what he meant but is the security as good as YahooGroups, however good that is?
Sharon Villines, Washington DC
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Where Everyone Trims Their Tails,
Smothers Flames, Ignores Trolls, and
Never Sends Private Messages to the List.
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Security Compared to YahooGroups
I¡¯m preparing to move a 3,000 member list to groups.io. When I announced this I was asked by a subscriber whether the security was good.
I have no idea, really, what he meant but is the security as good as YahooGroups, however good that is?
Sharon Villines, Washington DC
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TakomaDC@...
Where Everyone Trims Their Tails,
Smothers Flames, Ignores Trolls, and
Never Sends Private Messages to the List.
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Re: question about deleting a subgroup
In the absence of any reply here, I just submitted this to [email protected]. If I get an answer back I'll share it here just in case it is interesting to anyone else. --jeffp
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Shal, You're right, I checked and the message had been deleted. But it didn't give me a blank result. I'd already been talking to Mark offlist about this and will mention it to him.? Thanks. J
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J, I realize this could be had by simply clicking on Date to reverse the
order, but instead I typed "1" into the msg# box and hit "enter."
Nothing happened. Nothing? You mean that the list of messages stayed exactly as it had been? Could you see a refresh happen? If it gave you a blank result I'd suspect that perhaps msg #1 had been deleted from your group. But doing nothing is different. Then I tried typing "1" into the box and instead clicking on the search
icon. All that did was take me into the next search screen, with a place
for entering a search term, which I did not want to do. Right. That's the other kind of search. Doesn't work for me in either safari or Firefox. Works fine for me in Firefox and Edge on Win10 Pro 64-bit. Shal
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