In my case my email host for my domain introduced SPAMCOP a couple of years ago, this creates lots of blocking but annoyingly allows most spam through.
There is a status page on mine to check the blocking situation.
I've had many disagreements with my hosting company because this was added without my knowledge.
Imagine if the postman started doing this as he approached you letterbox.
Martyn?

On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 07:02 PM, WBennett wrote:

However, I'm wondering if you can tell me WHO is bouncing me, from this message in the notification... and why.
mx-10.au-east.atmailcloud.com: 550 Rejected - Content Policy
I need to know if it is a problem with my ISP so I can talk to them.

Poking around the web, it looks like atmail provides e-mail services for some telecoms, governments, and businesses.? (I did a search on atmailcloud.)? Your ISP may have contracted its e-mail out to them.? The 550 error means the messages were stopped by atmail's spam filter.? So yes, contact your ISP.? Groups.io may be trying to work this from their end too.? -- Jim Ringland

Thanks to all who responded. The issue seems resolved at this point.

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Yes,? but WHO are they? certainly not my ISP, as far as I know.
How do I find out?
Win

On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 09:02 PM, WBennett wrote:

tell me WHO is bouncing me

mx-10.au-east.atmailcloud.com is/was bouncing messages sent to you.? Only they can tell you why.

Duane
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Here's the definition of bouncing -?/helpcenter/glossary/1/terms/bounce-bouncing

and

/helpcenter/faq/1/group-member-faq/q-i-got-a-message-that-my

Frances
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Yesterday I received an email saying I was bouncing? and my entire groups.io groups have had emails suspended.
I immediately clicked on the link to unbounce me and it is fine now.
However, I'm wondering if you can tell me WHO is bouncing me, from this message in the notification... and why.

mx-10.au-east.atmailcloud.com: 550 Rejected - Content Policy

I need to know if it is a problem with my ISP so I can talk to them.

Thanks for any help.

Win

On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 04:19 PM, godboutm wrote:

The owners email address listed there is <groupname>+[email protected], without the "<groupname>" after the '@'. Both addresses work and each email I received had the "From" address as the full <groupname+owner@<groupname>,.

They're a bit different if you have subgroups (groupname before and after @) or not (groupname only before @).

Duane
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First, I set myself to "All emails". Then I sent an email to that <groupname>+owners email address from a separate account, with a different email service than the one I use for Groups.io, but nothing came to me from Groups.io.

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Am I missing something? Or is this a feature that doesn't work?

Check in Admin, Activity.
And in your subscription, did you tick All Email in Owner Email. And save it?

Did you read?/helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/sending-and-receiving-group-owner-email-messages?single=true

Frances
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On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 11:38 AM, KWKloeber wrote:

The cats can randomly do better.

lol.? My wife refers to moderating her groups as "herding cats".

I agree that "Reply All" is bad, but on the Yahoo Android App, that is the only "reply" button in view.? One has to dig a level to find a simple "Reply".? ?Having said that, the groups.io server sent out that address, so it should be able to at least determine that the email is not actually seeking a groupname as a recipient.? Seems that a more elegant solution could be had with a little better server side error management.

On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 11:36 AM, Denise Casey wrote:

What does the R setting mean? I don't understand this "In the Advanced Preferences panel on their Subscription page, the member has selected the Auto Follow Replies checkbox"

See this in Members' Help -?/helpcenter/membersmanual/1/controlling-your-email-subscription-preferences/advanced-preferences

Frances
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I really don't understand why you'd use Reply All

my unsophisticated users.

For the same reason members reply to my post below with, wait for it, “Keep me on the list” or “My email is correct”

I?CANNOT?REVERIFY EMAIL ADDRESSES so don’t email me to “Keep me on the list.” I just delete them.?

There’s members of my household “group” who don’t retain how to change the TV source input from?Network to Cable? using the remote button named “Source.” ?And the group human n=2. ? The cats can randomly do better.

Many Gio group members’ ability to pay attention reflects society as a whole’s (lack of) desire to pay attention — and we as Mods must keep that in the forefront at all times ?

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On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 09:44 AM, Jim Horne wrote:

Shouldn't? Groups.io be translating that? "on behalf of address" back so as to know where to send it rather than just checking for a groupname?

Groups.io doesn't forward emails in this situation, it's the email app/program that controls additional addresses.? I really don't understand why you'd use Reply All because the member that posted will see the reply as a message to the group, so no need to copy them as well.? That confuses many people as well because then there are 2 versions/threads of the same thing and they don't realize one of them isn't being posted.

Duane
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If someone uses "Reply All" on their Yahoo account(either app or web), it attempts to send(correctly) to the group, but then also to the funny <username@...>.? This is a problem for my unsophisticated users.

In testing the Yahoo Mail App on Android, I found that it doesn't even present the normal Reply icon without digging a little.? Gmail seems to only send to the group when Reply All is used.??

Here is the error I received when testing Yahoo, which looks like an error kicked back by Groups.io...

Sorry, we were unable to deliver your message to the following address.

<username@...>:
510: The group 'username=yahoo.com' does not exist

How exactly is this DMARC standard supposed to work?? Shouldn't? Groups.io be translating that? "on behalf of address" back so as to know where to send it rather than just checking for a groupname?

Jim

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On Wed, Feb 21, 2024 at 01:00 PM, Denny Sanders wrote:

Is there a way that these two options for login can be turned off?

That's an account setting for each person, so nothing you can do for a group.? I'm not sure if there's any control on an Enterprise group, but that's $$$$.

Duane
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