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Re: New option to move a Yahoo group to: forums.group

 

On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 14:00:05 -0800, "BMaverick" <bmaverick@...>
wrote:

My group used PGO-4 and successfully made it to GIO. We have the PST, SQL and MBOX formats available on our groups FILES section. Members have access to look up the messages in the archives.
We were fortunate to be able to use the PGO-2-GIO program to upload
everything in several groups to a subgroup of the corresponding main
group.

Any member of the main group is welcome to join the subgroup, and they
can view, but not reply to, the entire Yahoo message archive up to the
Dec 14, 2019 cutoff. Everyone was given fair notice to move to the new
group(s) so they wouldn't miss a message. Most made the move. A few
stayed behind until very recently when Yahoo made their announcement
about sunsetting Yahoo Groups entirely.

Donald


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Seems Spectrum/Charter is tripping again

 

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Either they have lowered their threshold for what is too many connections or GIO has raised their connections. I just got bounced out for:

1300

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Spectrum limits the number of concurrent connections from a sender, as well as the total number of connections allowed. Limits vary based on the reputation of the IP address. Reduce your number of connections and try again later.

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Should this be a bug report, beta list, or what?

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Looking at the long on GIO, the mail message hits once or twice a day, but getting 5 in a day (today) tripped the bounce limit.

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Here is the top of my "Recent Bounces"

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When

Message

Reason

13:26

#35531 [GMF] subscription setting

pkvw-mx.msg.pkvw.co.charter.net: 550 5.1.0 66.175.222.108 blocked. Please see https://www.spectrum.net/support/internet/understanding-email-error-codes for more information. AUP#In-1300

13:25

#183685 [jmriusers] B&O 1957 Signals

pkvw-mx.msg.pkvw.co.charter.net: 550 5.1.0 66.175.222.108 blocked. Please see https://www.spectrum.net/support/internet/understanding-email-error-codes for more information. AUP#In-1300

13:23

#183684 [jmriusers] Running Transits train will not go through block 10

pkvw-mx.msg.pkvw.co.charter.net: 550 5.1.0 66.175.222.108 blocked. Please see https://www.spectrum.net/support/internet/understanding-email-error-codes for more information. AUP#In-1300

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-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team

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Re: New option to move a Yahoo group to: forums.group

 

The Internet Archive (a.k.a. archive.org) is primarily involved with archiving public internet content.? The site is the home of the Wayback Machine.? Their about page states:
"The Internet Archive, a 501(c)(3) non-profit, is building a digital library of Internet sites and other cultural artifacts in digital form. Like a paper library, we provide free access to researchers, historians, scholars, the print disabled, and the general public. Our mission is to provide Universal Access to All Knowledge.
"We began in 1996 by archiving the Internet itself, a medium that was just beginning to grow in use. Like newspapers, the content published on the web was ephemeral - but unlike newspapers, no one was saving it. Today we have 20+ years of web history accessible through the??and we work with 625+ library and other partners through our??program to identify important web pages.

Given their focus is on archiving public content, it makes sense that the public information about larger YG's is the content that is most likely to be present in their archives.? (Note: the Wayback Machine has good archives of popular sites, and fragments of less popular sites.)

Regards,
Mike


Re: New option to move a Yahoo group to: forums.group

 

Samuel,

I went into the 'Join' to see what more is there.? This gave further info on the options and abilities the site has to offer to pull the data in.

While following their link over to Archive.org, there is a [ ] Show Description box to check.? There, one can find their Yahoo Groups archived data and to use the metadata to search what dataset has the archived messages and info.

My group used PGO-4 and successfully made it to GIO.? We have the PST, SQL and MBOX formats available on our groups FILES section.? Members have access to look up the messages in the archives.

BMaverick


Re: #askmembers Private messaging? #askmembers

 

On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 10:10 AM, CBNelAZ wrote:
Does the platform permit private messages between individuals?
Yes...if they both create a group profile, and share them.

Once that's done, click the Email button for any individual's Directory entry to send a private email to that person.

I realize yes, if answering a post, But not clear if I can initiate a new topic that is just to a person or few?
That's not really possible. All posts to the group will appear in the message archive and are readable by every group member. The only way to restrict a topic to a subset of the whole group is to create a subgroup and subscribe them to it (note: subgroups are a Premium feature).

Regards,
Bruce

Check out the groups.io Help Center?and?groups.io Owners Manual


Re: subscription setting

 

Oops - I misread the initial post. Thanks for setting me straight.

Pete


Re: Metrics dashboard for groups.io?

Cameron Shorter
 

Thanks for the feedback Shal, it is very helpful to know the current state and what I can do with it. I can work from that.

On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 at 17:16, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

Cameron,

?> I'd like to demonstrate the health of our project by pointing to a
?> graph of our healthy and growing email list, ideally pointing at a
?> graph of "posts per week".

The closest to that is the Message History table near the bottom of your
group's home page. But that's on a per-month basis.
[excess quote trimmed by moderator]



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Re: subscription setting

 

On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 01:26 PM, Peter Cook wrote:
On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 10:40 AM, Stephanie Hilwig wrote:
1.? In subscription settings, I assume if I change email delivery for one group it only makes that change for that group, not all groups I belong to, correct?
I'm confused by this. I see that I can change my members' email addresses, and that this changes the address for their whole account. But I do not see a way to change my own email address in my subscription settings. Can someone point me in the right direction?
To change your email address, go to your name in the top right corner of one of your groups.

BTW, this thread is about advanced preferences for subscriptions. Not email addresses.

Frances
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Converting Archive.org WARC files to MBOX-like files

 

Hello everyone

As you may be aware, Archive.org has some old Yahoogroups archives available, here:


The archives are WARC files, zipped as GZ files. The WARC files are plain text files with records that appear to have been created by a Yahoogroups download script of some kind.

I have written a short AutoIt script that attempts to convert the WARC file to an MBOX-like file that Thunderbird accepts. Dunno, this may be useful for group who want to get access to some of the old message of "sister groups" that dealt with the same or a similar topic.



My script doesn't go further than convert the WARC file to a file that Thunderbird accepts. For example, I believe threading information is contained in the WARC file but my script doesn't attempt to parse it.

Samuel


Re: New option to move a Yahoo group to: forums.group

 

On 13/12/2020 15:44, Bruce Bowman wrote:

At its peak, Y!G had more than 10 million groups. Archive.org shows 8272 group retrievals, many of them several years out of date.
It shows 8000+ "results", but many results contain the data from multiple groups.

I'm not sure if there are only 8000 groups or if there are 8000 groups of groups. If I search for a keyword, it says e.g. "2 results", but those 2 results contain the data for 150 groups each.

I'm not sure if all results contain the data for 150 groups or if some results contain the data for fewer groups if they are very large groups. But if the former, then the potential number of groups is 1.2 million.

None of the groups' data that I have seen so far were from takeout requests but rather from download scripts like IgnoredAmbience's. This means that they do not contain full e-mail addresses and they often have character encoding problems.

Samuel


Re: subscription setting

 

On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 10:40 AM, Stephanie Hilwig wrote:
1.? In subscription settings, I assume if I change email delivery for one group it only makes that change for that group, not all groups I belong to, correct?
I'm confused by this. I see that I can change my members' email addresses, and that this changes the address for their whole account. But I do not see a way to change my own email address in my subscription settings. Can someone point me in the right direction?

Thanks!
Pete


Re: subscription setting

 

On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 12:34 PM, Stephanie Hilwig wrote:
So for #2, if I choose ¡°auto follow replies¡± which states I automatically follow conversations I started, what is then the difference if I also select ¡°all messages¡± versus ¡°Following only¡±? In other words if either of those 2 is selected in conjunction with me only following conversations I start, won¡¯t I still only get ones related to conversations I start??
If you select "all messages" it automatically deletes the selection "Following Only". You can't have "all messages" and "following only".

You have to select auto-follow replies to get replies from topics that you started or wrote a reply to.?

If you select Following only, you receive only the messages (individually or in digests, depending on your Email Delivery setting) posted to the group that are in topics you are specifically following or that are tagged with one or more hashtags you are specifically following.
i.e. you can choose to follow any or all topics and hashtags you are interested in.

I would opt for New Messages Also.
You receive the first message of each new topic, regardless of the fact that you have not yet followed that topic. This setting helps you to manage the amount of email you receive from a very active group. It allows you to know that a given topic has been posted so you can then decide whether to follow any additional messages in that topic.
Note: You cannot select this checkbox unless you select Following Only.

Otherwise you won't get new messages from other members in your email. You can read them on the group site and choose to follow them from there.

See the Help page -?/helpcenter/membersmanual/1/controlling-your-email-subscription-preferences/advanced-preferences

Frances
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Re: subscription setting

 

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So for #2, if I choose ¡°auto follow replies¡± which states I automatically follow conversations I started, what is then the difference if I also select ¡°all messages¡± versus ¡°Following only¡±? In other words if either of those 2 is selected in conjunction with me only following conversations I start, won¡¯t I still only get ones related to conversations I start??


On Dec 13, 2020, at 10:50 AM, Frances <frances@...> wrote:

?On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 10:40 AM, Stephanie Hilwig wrote:

1.? In subscription settings, I assume if I change email delivery for one group it only makes that change for that group, not all groups I belong to, correct?

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2. Under subscription, under advanced preferences, if I check the box for Auto Follow Replies it says ¡°you automatically follow any topics you start or reply to¡± which is what I want, but under Message Selection it still requires a choice between ¡°All Messages¡± and ¡°Following Only¡± so what would the difference between these two be when ¡°Auto Follow Replies¡± is checked?

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3.? If my ultimate goal is to receive messages from topics I start AND receive urgent information from the group.? However is there a way to do that since it says if ¡°special notices¡± is selected ¡°advanced notices¡± don¡¯t apply?

1. Yes.?

2. Following means that you can choose to follow future replies to that thread. If you get the email, you can click on Follow in the footer.?

3. If you wish to receive mail from topics you start and urgent, you could rely on "special notices". But likely you will miss some. The owner has to remember (or choose) to send it as special notices. You might like to get the first of all new threads. Select?First Message AlsoIn addition to the topics and hashtags you have selected to follow, the first message of every new topic is also emailed to you.

See?/helpcenter/membersmanual/1/controlling-your-email-subscription-preferences/advanced-preferences

Frances
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Re: Calendar Permissions #calendar #question

 

Is there an option or way to have an event automatically locked after the date has passed?

A member updated an old event as Not Attending and others were removed from the old event Waitlist, and put as Attending and were sent the acceptance email.? This got confusing because there was a similar upcoming event? and they did not read the date.

Thanks,
Charlie


Re: New option to move a Yahoo group to: forums.group

 

The archive.org capture seems to have been quite limited. You had to receive a request from them (or otherwise know grant them privileges) and invite them in order for them to do a capture. And the movement arose with a short timeline. I don't think many folks were aware of it.

Larry


bug about rejection?

 

I received 3 messages in my group and rejected them together by clicking the three boxes. I added the reason for rejection and ticked "CC to all moderators"


Then I received the notification about just ONE of the rejections.

Shouldn't I receive a notification about all three?


groetjes/?is, Ronaldo


Re: subscription setting

 

On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 10:50 AM, Frances wrote:
2. Following means that you can choose to follow future replies to that thread. If you get the email, you can click on Follow in the footer.?
If you have following selected, you can also see the button Follow this topic for the message in your group home page.
(Sorry for the delay - had to test.)
So you would get the first message of each new topic. You can choose to follow future replies to that thread, either from the footer of the email or from the message on your group homepage.

Frances
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Re: subscription setting

 

On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 10:40 AM, Stephanie Hilwig wrote:

1.? In subscription settings, I assume if I change email delivery for one group it only makes that change for that group, not all groups I belong to, correct?

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2. Under subscription, under advanced preferences, if I check the box for Auto Follow Replies it says ¡°you automatically follow any topics you start or reply to¡± which is what I want, but under Message Selection it still requires a choice between ¡°All Messages¡± and ¡°Following Only¡± so what would the difference between these two be when ¡°Auto Follow Replies¡± is checked?

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3.? If my ultimate goal is to receive messages from topics I start AND receive urgent information from the group.? However is there a way to do that since it says if ¡°special notices¡± is selected ¡°advanced notices¡± don¡¯t apply?

1. Yes.?

2. Following means that you can choose to follow future replies to that thread. If you get the email, you can click on Follow in the footer.?

3. If you wish to receive mail from topics you start and urgent, you could rely on "special notices". But likely you will miss some. The owner has to remember (or choose) to send it as special notices. You might like to get the first of all new threads. Select?First Message AlsoIn addition to the topics and hashtags you have selected to follow, the first message of every new topic is also emailed to you.

See?/helpcenter/membersmanual/1/controlling-your-email-subscription-preferences/advanced-preferences

Frances
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Re: How can I give a donation to groups.io?

 

Nothing like io to provide work arounds for appreciation!!!! ?thanks duane, you made my day.

Kathleen


subscription setting

 

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1.? In subscription settings, I assume if I change email delivery for one group it only makes that change for that group, not all groups I belong to, correct?

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2. Under subscription, under advanced preferences, if I check the box for Auto Follow Replies it says ¡°you automatically follow any topics you start or reply to¡± which is what I want, but under Message Selection it still requires a choice between ¡°All Messages¡± and ¡°Following Only¡± so what would the difference between these two be when ¡°Auto Follow Replies¡± is checked?

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3.? If my ultimate goal is to receive messages from topics I start AND receive urgent information from the group.? However is there a way to do that since it says if ¡°special notices¡± is selected ¡°advanced notices¡± don¡¯t apply?

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