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How do we delete something that was put twice in the Directory
A member in a group that I am Moderator for just emailed to say she accidentally created herself twice in the Directory and wants to delete one of them.? I looked as Moderator to see if I could delete the second one and then went to another site I'm owner of to see if there was anything there that I could click on to delete but there wasn't.
How do we (or the individual who created it) delete a second profile in the Directory? Sincerely, Rli@... |
Re: Completely edit default messages for invites, direct add, etc
No it would not have been better if I had posted it in the beta group. I was not 100% sure it couldn't be done and that was made more uncertain when Frances's reply to the OP did not say it couldn't and appeared to give instructions as to how to defeat the default message.
It is not that the message is too long; it is for my personal reasons that I find it too terse for inviting people I already know. I wanted to make it friendlier but at the same time not clutter it up with irrelevant wording that I dislike. I will not attempt to justify my reasons as that will simply result in a battle of others trying to knock down my personal preferences as has already been started. In? future I will not be using the Invite message but will create my own from personal email. Matter closed for me but maybe not for the OP and at least one other. |
Re: GIO changes from Mark
Grandfathering means that the change will not affect previously created groups.? They will continue under the old policy. ? Bob On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 5:57 AM Malcolm Austen <malcolm.austen@...> wrote: I'm a GIO-newbie having brought over a family history list from Rootsweb. I actually brought over two lists, one covered a geographical subset of the other so I created the subset as a subgroup. As I'm on the basic/free plan this change will affect me ... |
member activity history
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýAfter a member has left our group and their email address as displayed in the ¡°leave¡± message is the only indication I have of the unsubscribed member, is there a way to obtain a history of their activities (not email activity) similar to the one yahoo offered? I am referring to a member?s activity history from joining to leaving the group (including various changes of email addresses and display names)? Victoria ? |
Re: GIO changes from Mark
"Grandfathering" means that the restrictions part of the new rules applies only to newly created groups. No capabilities are removed from groups which already exist. Specifically, your existiong subgroups will be fine, and your current basic groups can continue to create new subgroups. I think of my own grandfather with this word. He started to drive before there was any driving test in Britain, possibly even before there was a driving licence. He was never required to pass a driving test, even 50 years later: his right to the driving licence was grandfathered in. ? - Mark (not that Mark, of course) |
Re: New owner help please
#howto
Thank you SO much for this information :-)? Loving and now loving this Forum :-) Sherry On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 at 07:20, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote: Sherry, |
Re: How to find (not disclosed) emails?
On 11/01/2020 03:45, Bruce Bowman wrote:
On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 09:13 PM, John Robertson wrote:Even as a moderator (even as a group owner) of the Yahoogroup, there canI have been lurking, but now have a question. Trying to move aYou have to be a Moderator of the group to get the email addresses. be "(not disclosed)" members. I've seen it several times in member lists that I download using the screen dump method, as a moderator. Samuel |
Re: GIO changes from Mark
I'm a GIO-newbie having brought over a family history list from Rootsweb. I actually brought over two lists, one covered a geographical subset of the other so I created the subset as a subgroup. As I'm on the basic/free plan this change will affect me ...
Can someone please explain what 'grandfathering in' means? I have looked in the GMF wiki but maybe need to look further in the documentation. I don't fully understand GIO yet but I will say that I like what I have seen :-) Malcolm.? |
Re: "Reply All" and "cc" issues
Many thanks to Chris, Duane and Bruce for their very helpful posts, and apologies for the slow response. And I am embarrassed to say that, after examining our Activity Log (at Chris's suggestion) I can now see that I was mistaken. Although the non-member did in fact "Reply All" to the message that was copied to our group, his message WAS NOT in fact received by our members. Confusingly, the non-member also blind copied in a (non groups.io) list, of which many of our members are also subscribed. So to an untrained eye (like mine) it looked like his message had breached our wall, when in fact his inclusion of our groups.io list as a recipient would not have got through to us.?
I have also checked our Message Policies, on Bruce's suggestion, and indeed the first checkbox was already unchecked. So, false alarm. Please accept my apologies. Barry |
Re: How to send GroupOwner+ messages
#howto
#groupowner
Tony,
Yes, How to send messages to members as if coming from the Owner orThat part is easily done from the New Topic function. As you've heard, what isn't so easy is to have replies go somewhere other than where your group's Reply To option says they should. You could suggest in beta that the New Topic page have a second checkbox "Replies to +owner" that you could use in conjunction with the Special Notice checkbox. I need to learn and know how to send such messages to All Members,There's an old saying in the Yahoo Group moderator circles: "No Email" means "No Email". For whatever reason that member does NOT want the group to send messages to their address. Not even the messages you think are so important. In some cases this is because the member made a silly choice, such as using a work email address in a group with NSFW postings. Other times the reasons are more legit, but not imagined by the group owner. So for this reason it has been made relatively difficult to get around No Email with a message to all members. Assuming there are relatively few No Email members, one way to get around it is to send a Special Notice, and then separately send a message from your email service with all of the No Email addresses Bcc'd. Or as many of them at a time as you're allowed to include in a single message (about 200 last time I did this with Gmail). With some email services you can even set it up so that your post comes "From" the group's posting address (a legit spoof). Or, the same thing, but using checkmarks on the No Email members in your group's Members list, and the Send Message action. If you sort the Members list by the Delivery column you can dramatically reduce the number of pages full of checkmarks this way. As I recall this may have the flaw that your own Display Name is sent in the From field, even when you select the +owner address. But you could temporarily change your Display Name before doing this. To my mind it would be good to be able to set both No Email ON andThe only difference between them is that members opting for Special Notices receive those New Topics that you so designate. So what would having them both on mean that would be different? Hmm, that is interesting, and I don't understand; the Return Path goesThat's how Groups.io tracks rejected messages. That address is solely for the use of the rejecting service, it is not (normally) shown to the recipient (except in View Source or Show Original or equivalent) nor is it available as a user reply address. And there is no Reply to:Well that's interesting. I believe that means that the group's Reply To setting is "Sender". A setting that generally means that the Reply-To header field is not needed to direct replies back to the group (or whatever). Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
Re: How to find (not disclosed) emails?
John,
... a lot came through as "(not disclosed)".No there is not. That indicates that those specific members chose the Hide your email and IP address feature. Their email addresses are never revealed, even to the Y!Group owners. I've always been under the impression that that was a very uncommon feature for a group to enable. The Yahoo Group GMF is about the only group I've ever known to have that feature enabled. Even tools like PG Offline and the Chrome application on YahooGroupedia cannot access the (not disclosed) addresses. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
GIO changes from Mark
Mark has announced some changes that will be going into effect soon, ? The big change is that Premium groups now have 20GB of storage (no change for Basic or Enterprise.)? The other is that Basic (free) groups created after next Wednesday, January 15, will not be able to create subgroups (existing Basic groups will be grandfathered in.)
Duane -- GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Help: /static/help Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
Re: Comcast problems again?
Annick,
However they are now landing in the spam folder there so she has toIf Outlook (or whatever email program) is retrieving messages using the POP protocol, it can only download messages that land in the user's Inbox. Those that land is Spam or other folders must be accessed through the email service's webmail interface. A way around that is to select the IMAP protocol. Depending on your email program it might be a little more complicated to set up initially, but it gives you access to any or all of the folders in your email service account, including Spam and Trash. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
Re: New owner help please
#howto
Sherry,
1. A member has asked about replying when he is on summary mode...When you click on the Subject of an item in the Daily Summary that's a link that takes you to that Topic in the group's Messages section. What does the member see? If the member can see the messages but can't see the Reply link in the bar under each message that tells me two things: 1) your group's messages are public, and 2) the member is not logged in to Groups.io or is logged in with an address that is not subscribed to your group. Have the member look at the text at the very bottom of the Daily Summary. It will say "you are subscribed to ... via (his email address here)". The email address shown when logged in must match the subscribed address. (screenshot here: /g/GroupManagersForum/message/27062 ) If the member sees your home page or something else, same answer: he is not logged in or is logged in with a non-subscribed email address; but your group does not show messages to non-members. I note that some of my membership are showing as *Summary* and some asAn R in a blue box means that the member has selected "Auto Follow Replies" in the Advanced Preferences section of his/her Subscription. That feature is intended for use with Individual or Digest delivery, I don't think it has any effect when used with Daily Summary. /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Status-Badges-in-the-Members-List 2. A member has reported regarding posting an image that "it onlyAs far as I know any type would be accepted, but it may depend on how the member posts the message (via his/her email interface, or via the group's interface) and how one views the resulting message. I haven't tried BMP, but it (like TIFF) has a lot of variations and are sometimes very large files. I've used JPG (for images) and PNG (for screenshots and drawings); both are much more standardized and typically more compact. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
Re: How to send GroupOwner+ messages
#howto
#groupowner
On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 01:06 AM, Tony Moody wrote:
I need to learn and know how to send such messages to All Members, eg All Mail, Digests,A Special Notice will be sent to all except the No Email.? That's the main reason for not allowing that setting.? Of course, you have to be judicious with your use of them or people will leave. Duane -- GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Help: /static/help Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
Re: How to send GroupOwner+ messages
#howto
#groupowner
Thanks Jim, and Frances.
Yes, How to send messages to members as if coming from the Owner or Moderators. More or less official memos coming from on high as it were. (good luck with that I hear !) I need to learn and know how to send such messages to All Members, eg All Mail, Digests, Special. and no Email . ( Note: One of 'my' groups is now set to not allow No-email , those members have been set to special Notices.) I'm not sure if this is a good idea. To my mind it would be good to be able to set both No Email ON and Special Notices ON. I think I have seen samples on various Groups.io/ [ for instance From: "[email protected] Group Moderators" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: [Sharing_________eSecrets] Group Guidelines #guidelines ] Hmm, that is interesting, and I don't understand; the Return Path goes to a bounce facility And there is no Reply to: OK, Tony _______________________________________ On 10 Jan 2020 at 6:05, Jim Wilson via Groups.Io wrote about : Subject : Re: [GMF] How to send GroupOwner+ m I had to check the variables with my test group. The result is that there is no simple method to do this. A Special Notice is from the Owner but the reply is to the group. The From line structure is: [Group Name]@groups.io on behalf of [Owner or Moderator] via Groups.io <[Group Name]+owner@...> The only current way to do this would be to visit your Members page under Admin, scroll all the way to the bottom so that all members show on the page (assuming you still have the default Infinite Scroll in your preferences), then go back to the top, check the checkbox next to Display Name and then choose Action -> Send Message. That will definitely send the message to each individual with the From line showing: [Group Name][email protected] Even so, I'm not sure why you would choose to do this rather than simply posting to the group. Depending on your member count, you would invite a potential onslaught of messages that could last for weeks. br Jim |
Re: Completely edit default messages for invites, direct add, etc
Mike,
I have yet to find a method of stopping the default message appearing;As others have said, you can't. But you can use a horizontal line at the top and bottom of your custom insert so as to clearly separate it from the boilerplate. /g/GroupManagersForum/message/27136 Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
Re: How to find (not disclosed) emails?
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThat is too easy! We have about 1200 members so should have no trouble following your instruction.As for the (not disclosed) I take it there is no way to recover them? The system obviously HAS the email as they are mixed in with the expressed emails in a logical progression. So one would think there would be a way to get the email out as the owner/moderator of the list! In any case, thanks, that will save me a bunch of cut&paste! John :-#)# On Jan 10, 2020, at 9:20 PM, BMaverick <bmaverick@...> wrote:
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Re: A problem deleting an unused group
On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 08:44 PM, Mark Levy wrote:
But somewhere along the line, I apparently managed to erase my group ownership so I can't delete or rename the group.The last owner can't be deleted or leave.? There's either another owner or you used a different email address to create the account you used to create the group.? If it were me, I'd log out of the site, then try entering various email addresses I have in the "Email me a link to login" page to see if one of them works, /sendloginlink Duane -- GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Help: /static/help Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |