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Re: Photo permissions

 

I responded privately to Dale suggesting that when he creates the Yahoo photos album that he set it for all members to be able to Add photos to that album.? I was assuming that since everyone can add - they should also be able to delete.? Are you saying that is incorrect?? They can't delete out of the Yahoo photos album?

I told him that if he allowed the members to go to that Yahoo photos album, copy it to their computer, then create their own private album, and upload their photos, then THEY could delete their photos from the Yahoo album instead of involving him.

So is that incorrect?

Sincerely,

Rli@...

In a message dated 11/16/2019 1:12:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, frances@... writes:

On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 03:48 PM, Dale Smith wrote:
Problem is that no one but me or another moderator or owner can move the files.? ?Is there a way to upload them so that anyone can move them?? I know the individuals can download and re upload them, but that would duplicate storage or create communication issues and work for the moderators to delete them from the large album.? ?Also moving is just so much easier.
If the photos are in an album it is fairly easy to move them. But create an album before you try to move.
To give everyone access, you need to go to Admin, Settings. Scroll down to photos in Features. Change it so subscribers and view and upload.

However access does not give your members permission to move other people's photos. Only the member who uploaded the photo can move it - apart from owners / moderators. And you have one big file from Yahoo.?
Someone else suggested hosting the photos elsewhere - somewhere free. And putting a link on your home page.

Anyone else with suggestions on how to do this?

Frances

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Re: Owner not receiving notices of new postings

 

On 16 Nov 2019 18:02, Terry Bockhaus wrote:

I am moving my Yahoo groups to groups.io.? One of my members tries to share in the group and receives?this message..
Unfortunately, the error message by Gmail is misleading. The real error message (510, 5.1.1) is further down that message -- it says:

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510 5.1.1 Your email address, normagittinger99@..., is
not subscribed to that group.
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So, this message from Gmail really means "you tried to send an e-mail to a group with an e-mail address that is not subscribed to that group".

Samuel


Re: Photo permissions

 

On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 08:48 PM, Dale Smith wrote:
We have started a new group on groups.io as it is not economically feasible to utilize the transfer option to move our old Yahoo group over.?
OK; as you have started a new group is it safe to assume that it is a Basic group with 1 GB of storage?

? We have 286 albums.? I can get all the photos into one album and upload them that way to one "Photos from Yahoo" album,
Before you start uploading I suggest that you check how much space they are going to occupy. 286 albums is quite a lot, but of course it gives no clue about how many photos might be in each album? IMHO there is no point in starting to upload them to find that halfway through the process you reach your 1 GB limit and can upload no more.

It is certainly vital that prior to uploading you set the Max Size in Photos Section (Admin > Settings [scroll] Photos) to something that will prevent any large photos (in MB that is) taking up too much space. I am relucant to suggest a setting; trial and error might be better. That said 1024 x 1024 would not be a bad starting point.

Some radical weeding of the photos retrieved from Yahoo so that you only upload the really relevant stuff is likely to prove worthwhile and could prevent a lot of frustration later.

Chris


Re: Member message delivery problem; above my expertise to help

 

On 16 Nov 2019 17:04, b&p wrote:

One of our more active members sent me this; it is beyond my scope of technical knowledge to help. Can you please send me a solution that I can forward to him?
It's going to be difficult because I suspect he's paraphrasing what he's seeing and not reporting word-for-word what is shown to him.

Problem 1:

Can¡¯t connect securely to this page
This might be because the site uses outdated or unsafe TLS security settings. If this keeps happening, try contacting the website¡¯s owner.
All I can say that web browsers (and antivirus programs) have gotten a lot more paranoid, and some of them will prevent users from visiting perfectly safe pages for any number of reasons that power users would consider frivolous.

When I visit groups.io's pages, all of my browsers report the URL to be "secure". The Microsoft Edge that is installed on my computer says that groups.io's pages is secure (see attached screenshot).

Problem 2:

I copied the link to Firefox and get an error message I¡¯m not logged in.
If you use that link in a browser, you should get one of two types of pages: either you get a page telling you that you're logged in, or you get a page telling you that the link had expired (it expires after 24 hours).

All I can recommend is that the user try again:
1. Go here: /sendloginlink
2. Type in his e-mail address and press the green button.
3. Wait for the new link to arrive by mail.
4. Copy/paste the new "loginlink" link in Firefox.

If this doesn't work, please tell us what exactly the page says (or send a screenshot).

Samuel


Re: Group Members e-mail Address #multipleemail #membersemail #memberemail

 

Bruce,

Thanks for the feedback/info. The "join date" seniority issue is certainly not a high priority. If the join date could be corrected in three to six or eight months that would be fine. Members are in for the long haul. Members do like their bragging rights. Thanks again.

Regards,
Scott.


Re: fixed width line in footer forces sideways scrolling

 

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 11:14 PM, isis feral wrote:
Is there something we can do to fix this?
Worst case:? Have her switch to a Plain Text digest and this problem should go away.

Bruce


Re: Current Delay ?

 



November 15, 2019

Hi All,
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As of this morning, we've completely worked through the backlog of Yahoo Group transfer requests. It took 29 days, but we did it. :-)
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I've removed the option to pay for a priority transfer.
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I'm still only responding to support emails from premium group owners right now. There's just too much otherwise. Also, the beta group is still moderated.
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A reminder: please get your transfer requests in by the end of the month.
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Thanks,
Mark
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Re: Current Delay ?

 


Re: Copyright

 

On 16 Nov 2019 05:15, Bill Burns wrote:

On 11/15/2019 8:45 AM, Samuel Murray wrote:

...unless the content is published in the USA, in which case it's even more complicated, because different states have different copyright laws).
Good advice, except that copyright in the USA (and in all other countries that I know of) is a national issue not subject to
override by individual states, so copyright law applies uniformly to
the entire USA.
My apologies for saying "different states have different copyright laws". What I meant was "different states have different laws which affect the application of nation copyright law".

Specifically, how "employee" is defined (it affects "work for hire").

Of course, IANAL.

Samuel


Mod's note - spelling changed in header to sort with the rest of the thread


Current Delay ?

 

Does anyone know roughly what the current delay time is between sending an invitation to [email protected] and Transfer joining a Yahoo Group?

Thanks

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Re: file and folder organization #files #folders

 

On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 04:33 PM, Laurence Marks wrote:
If you have a long series of folders that are NOT in alphabetic order, it will be confusing and difficult for users to find the one they want from a list. Even prefixing numbers helps you, but not the user.
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1. Nebraska
2. Massachusetts
3. Arizona
4. North Carolina
5. New York
The folders automatically sort alphabetically. Add another one and it zips into the right spot.

I only suggest numbers for folders if you want some arbitrary system.
1. Overview
2. Arizona
3. Arkansas

Frances
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Re: Photo permissions

 

On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 03:48 PM, Dale Smith wrote:
We have 286 albums.? I can get all the photos into one album and upload them that way to one "Photos from Yahoo" album, but I would like to make it possible for individual members to go into those photos and pick their own photos out and create a separate folder if they are so inclined.? Problem is that no one but me or another moderator or owner can move the files. Is there a way to upload them so that anyone can move them?
Dale -- I really don't think so. If you upload them, you own them, and a mere Subscriber will be unable to move "your" photos. It is possible to reassign ownership of photos so they can be moved by someone else, but it must be done one by one, is a very cumbersome process (try it and see), and will not save you or anybody else any work.

As Frances suggested, you may be better off hosting the photos in cloud storage and having your subscribers transfer them to the group from there. That's the only convenient way I can think of to delegate the job and still get all the ownerships to come out right.

Here's hoping someone else has worked this through and has a better idea.

Good luck,
Bruce


Re: file and folder organization #files #folders

 

If you have a long series of folders that are NOT in alphabetic order, it will be confusing and difficult for users to find the one they want from a list. Even prefixing numbers helps you, but not the user.

1. Nebraska
2. Massachusetts
3. Arizona
4. North Carolina
5. New York
.
.
.
49. Hawaii
50. Wyoming

Users would not appreciate finding the folder in such a list.

There is one case where numbers make sense: an archive of photos or attachments by year, with folders labelled 2016, 2017, 2018, and 2019. I don't see confusion with this, whether the list default is to sort ascending or descending.

Larry


Re: fixed width line in footer forces sideways scrolling

 

On 16 Nov 2019 00:48, isis feral via Groups.Io wrote:

She uses Gmail, and I just noticed she's receiving list mail in digest form. I'll have to double-check whether it ever happens with any other emails, but it seemed to be pretty specific to Groups.io
I confirm that the digest or summary mails are more highly formatted messages, and indeed they do have a minimum width.

SOLUTION:

One solution is that she opens the mail in a new window, so that the folders on the left-hand side do not take up any space. There is a special button in Gmail for this, at the top right of the message (see screenshot attached).

Also:

I may have found the problem. The HTML is written very nicely for adjusting the width to the screen, and then someone put an image in the message footer in such a way that it doesn't allow going smaller:

/img/org.1/digest_bg_footer.jpg

Samuel


Re: Member's e-mail

 

On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 05:08 PM, Terry Bockhaus wrote:
She is a member, that is what is so strange.?I have checked all her settings and they are correct as well..
That doesn't actually answer Bruce's suggestion about checking your Activity log.

Chrsi


Re: Helo needed urgently

 

On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 04:09 PM, Michel Benarrosh wrote:
I had my Yahoo group transferred to Groups.io a few days ago (800+ members), under the name CHARTER BOAT OWNERS. Apparently only the moderator (me) is allowed to post and none of the members can post - they cannot see the "New Topic" button.

I have been looking at all my settings and I cannot find where to fix this. Can someone help ASAP please?
Michael, you say you are a moderator. Are you the owner? Can you see Admin in the left menu?
If yes, you are ready to make the changes.

First, is it possible you set it up as an Announcement group? That seems to fit the symptoms. Untick that.
Select restricted or one of the other spam control choices.
See this quick start guide:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Quick-Start-for-Group-Formation

Frances

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Re: Helo needed urgently

 

Under your "Admin/Settings" Spam Control block - make sure you don't have 'Announcement group' checked, this only allows moderators (you!) to post...


Re: Photo permissions

 

On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 03:48 PM, Dale Smith wrote:
Problem is that no one but me or another moderator or owner can move the files.? ?Is there a way to upload them so that anyone can move them?? I know the individuals can download and re upload them, but that would duplicate storage or create communication issues and work for the moderators to delete them from the large album.? ?Also moving is just so much easier.
If the photos are in an album it is fairly easy to move them. But create an album before you try to move.
To give everyone access, you need to go to Admin, Settings. Scroll down to photos in Features. Change it so subscribers and view and upload.

However access does not give your members permission to move other people's photos. Only the member who uploaded the photo can move it - apart from owners / moderators. And you have one big file from Yahoo.?
Someone else suggested hosting the photos elsewhere - somewhere free. And putting a link on your home page.

Anyone else with suggestions on how to do this?

Frances

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Re: Translation for Groups.io? #translation #wiki

 

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Hi Frances,
Sure, that sounds good. ?It would be good for me anyway?to learn how?
to use wiki pages since they may come in handy for my group.
Let me know how to access it when it ready.
Thanks,
AC



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Frances via Groups.Io <frances@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 12:39 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [GMF] Translation for Groups.io? #translation #wiki
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I can create a wiki start page in GMF for this if you wish.
If you haven't done a wiki, it is just like word processing - or like writing a post online here at Groups.io
Any member of GMF can edit it. Anyone can read it.

Frances
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Helo needed urgently

 

I had my Yahoo group transferred to Groups.io a few days ago (800+ members), under the name CHARTER BOAT OWNERS. Apparently only the moderator (me) is allowed to post and none of the members can post - they cannot see the "New Topic" button.

I have been looking at all my settings and I cannot find where to fix this. Can someone help ASAP please?

Thank you.
Michael