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Re: Does Groups.io keep a record of invitations? #invitation

 

On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 04:42 PM, JJ Krawczyk wrote:
I have a glob waiting for approval and those do not seem to show up anywhere yet. It would be nice if they could be in the same place with a "waiting approval" status but I believe they'll show up there once they are approved and go out.
True, that would be nice. That anomaly is because of the limiter on number of invitations sent at one time. You can input a lot more and you must wait. See this for more details and a link to a post about why.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/20-Invitations-Limit

Frances

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Re: "Average Pace" of transfers

John B
 

I'm seeing between 16 and 32 groups per day over the past few days.? Thursday and Friday were at the high end.? Today is slower.? I'm around #200 in the queue.

Might depend on group size (# messages, photos, etc.), whether a human is needed to do stuff, how many are paying $200 for priority, etc.


Re: Does Groups.io keep a record of invitations? #invitation

 

Yes Groups.io allows you to track whom you have invited.?
In Admin, Invites. Two tabs - an invitation to be sent with a customizable section and the second tab is Sent Invitations.
Email addresses, date sent, status. Sortable list.
You can resend from here as well using the Actions toggle.
Cancel / Remove Invite is a bit cryptic (to my mind). You can remove the Invite but it doesn't remove their membership. It is just to tidy up the list.

See also?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Inviting-new-members

Frances


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Re: Does Groups.io keep a record of invitations? #invitation

 

I've only sent one invitation (as a test) which was accepted and it still shows up under Invite -> Sent Invitations (with a status of accepted).

I have a glob waiting for approval and those do not seem to show up anywhere yet. It would be nice if they could be in the same place with a "waiting approval" status but I believe they'll show up there once they are approved and go out.


Does Groups.io keep a record of invitations? #invitation

 

Just wondering, 'cause I actually haven't sent any yet.? (My group is at Stage 3 of 4 in the transfer; a few dozen members have signed up at GIO; the rest are awaiting automatic transfer; that's okay, I can be patient.)

When you send an invitation to join a Yahoo group it just sorta disappears into the ether.? You'll see the feeble confirmation that "You can sent 99 more invitations today" (or whatever), but you have no record of to whom invitations were sent and when.

Does GIO keep better track? That's a feature I'd really value.


current turnaround for invitation approval? #invitation

 

I sent 600+ invitations this morning and as it has been a little longer than "a few hours" (as I've seen quoted in other messages here), I was wondering if anyone else who recently required invite approval could tell me how long it took.

That's it.? Thank you!

JJ Krawczyk


Re: I Can't Get My Group To Begin Transfer From Yahoogroups

 

In your Yahoo Group, After you click on Management,?
Then Manage Members,
Then Join to sort by join date
You should see Groupsio at or near the top of the list
Click on them to bring up the Edit Member popup and change them to a Moderator.



#subgroups Can I create an Invisible Subgroup? #subgroups

Bee
 

Hi, hoping someone can advise ..
I want to create a subgroup purely for myself and my Admin team so that we can discuss group ideas and the day-to-day running of the group without being seen by the other group members.

I do NOT want a message being sent to other group members that I created this subgroup or (preferably) see it listed anywhere, even under the subgroups tab of my group .. if that happens someone WILL try and join it, they always do, LOL! ? Involving time-consuming explanations about why they were rejected etc etc .... a lot easier if they just don¡¯t know about it¡¯s existence!?

Can I do this? ? If so - how??

Any help gratefully received!

Bee.


Re: Emails from my vBulletin Forum not appearing #bouncedemails #email

 

You can set up? a (one way) Integration.
Open the Admin menu and tap or click Integrations then? Email Integrations
follow the instructions to set up and acquire a (very long) unique email address.
You can have it Moderated or not as you see fit.
I think you can have several of them.
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Re: "Average Pace" of transfers

 

20 to 30 a day seems a rough rule of thumb.? It's hard to gauge without knowing how many group owners are paying $200 to leapfrog the queue.? I didn't, and my little group's saga is below.

My understanding is that GIO "harvested" all material from our Yahoo site at Step 2, so any new material posted there won't be transferred.? That's okay.? Whenever I post I make sure to send it to both Groupname@...?and [email protected].? (Those are fake names, don't use 'em.)? And if another member posts and omits one or the other address, I send a perfunctory reply and make sure to send it to both.? It's a pain but tolerable.? My annoyance is confined to a perfidious Yahoo, not to the dedicated GIO team!

Sat 10/19/2019 Alerted members of my group about Yahoo¡¯s plans and discussed options (Google groups. Groups.io, Facebook, plain email, dissolution).? People liked my description of Groups.io especially the ability to preserve ten years¡¯ worth of content.

Sun 10/20/2019 Created group at Groups.io.? Signed up for Premium and paid $110 (which doubled two days later).? Sent invitation for [email protected] to join our Yahoo group.? Heard nothing.
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Thur 10/24/2019 Sent a second invitation to [email protected].
Fri 10/25/2019 Invitation was finally accepted.? (Whether it was Sunday¡¯s or Thursday¡¯s, I don¡¯t know.)? I swiftly upgraded [email protected] to moderator and gave the go-ahead for transfer.
Sat 10/26/2019
Sun 10/27/2019 Finally progressed to step 3 of 4.? Place in queue #644.
Mon 10/28/2019 #633.
Tue 10/29/2019 #618.
Wed 10/30/2019 #584.
Thur 10/31/2019 #553.? "The pace does seem to be picking up but we¡¯re still looking at 2-4 more weeks if this continues."
Fri 11/1/2019 #543
Sat 11/2/2019 #521

(Caveat:? I didn't necessarily sample these at the same time of day, so interpret 'em accordingly.)
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Re: Emails from my vBulletin Forum not appearing #bouncedemails #email

 

On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 01:37 PM, Peter Walker wrote:
Strangely, the emails are not arriving on groups.io from the forum.
Have you checked the Activity log of the group?? I suspect you'll find "Non-member xxxx@ domain.com attempted to send message "yyy zzz" via email" for the emails sent to the group.? If so, you won't e able to use this until you can add that email address as a member.? If you have a paid group, you can do a Direct Add.? On an unpaid group, you can only send an invite or have that email address subscribe.? An invitation or a subscription request both require replies from the other party though.

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Emails from my vBulletin Forum not appearing #bouncedemails #email

 

I run a vBulletin 4.2.5 based Forum and I have been using a YahooGroup for many years to send out new forum messages to members via eMail.?

This is done by adding the email address to the settings for each forum.


I have been doing this for many years to my Yahoo Group and this service is popular with our members. As YahooGroups is closing, I decided to setup a similar group here and am currently testing it. Strangely, the emails are not arriving on groups.io from the forum. I have checked that the forum is correctly sending out the emails (as it has done for years) and the forum uses the Amazon SES service with my correct email address as registered with groups.io?

If I send emails using Outlook from my PC, those emails arrive at my groups.io account normally. The sending address is the same in both cases.?I have to get this working reliably before I can transfer my group over here.?Here is the header info of a test email I sent to myself. I have changed the domain names in this example, but otherwise this is what would be arriving at groups.io - what is not working here that causes these email to not appear. I have not received a bounced email, either.

Return-Path: <0102016e2d4cf8be-2b90b5bd-a908-443b-821c-b958d840a6a9-000000@...>
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on
zulu9999.server4you.de
X-Spam-Level:?
X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=7.0 tests=BAYES_20,
HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED
autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2
X-Original-To: info@...
Delivered-To: info@...
Received: from a4-20.smtp-out.eu-west-1.amazonses.com (a4-20.smtp-out.eu-west-1.amazonses.com [54.240.4.20])
by zulu9999.server4you.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8EDAE1DE013A
for <info@...>; Sat,? 2 Nov 2019 19:07:30 +0100 (CET)
Authentication-Results: zulu9999;
dmarc=none (p=NONE sp=NONE) smtp.from=eu-west-1.amazonses.com header.from=rifeforum.com;
dkim=pass header.d=amazonses.com;
spf=pass (sender IP is 54.240.4.20) smtp.mailfrom=0102016e2d4cf8be-2b90b5bd-a908-443b-821c-b958d840a6a9-000000@... smtp.helo=a4-20.smtp-out.eu-west-1.amazonses.com
Received-SPF: pass (zulu9999: domain of eu-west-1.amazonses.com designates 54.240.4.20 as permitted sender) client-ip=54.240.4.20; envelope-from=0102016e2d4cf8be-2b90b5bd-a908-443b-821c-b958d840a6a9-000000@...; helo=a4-20.smtp-out.eu-west-1.amazonses.com;
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/simple;
s=ihchhvubuqgjsxyuhssfvqohv7z3u4hn; d=amazonses.com; t=1572718049;
h=Date:To:From:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Subject:Feedback-ID;
bh=SHsQtGI/oQrWxA44jlxQByKT64+fmzqoI6qIeGdPyZo=;
b=D7SAc20LJ3GKur/klhxFLb0vWZPztcSChzI+i4Bk59CHFrO8U1jnUHCMui7zrr/c
/j/bvk5eXb7d9KyzjV5oYisLVxLkPYmAyOTpAQbCQENZrHiLc/JLR7Cm6Xs2Bl+CZnw
bIFeBFLMtdcSxOS/VF5T4bl8+A+H7F5C6IBCL1No=
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2019 18:07:29 +0000
To: info@...
From: "The Rife Forum" <admin@...>
Auto-Submitted: auto-generated
Message-ID: <0102016e2d4cf8be-2b90b5bd-a908-443b-821c-b958d840a6a9-000000@...>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Priority: 3
X-Mailer: vBulletin Mail via PHP
Subject: [Rifeforum] Test Messages! - Test Message to igroups
X-SES-Outgoing: 2019.11.02-54.240.4.20
Feedback-ID: 1.eu-west-1.dFaG5mPoBdH/YSE1owZsHOkFS/N6s2CUQTmbtqJxzys=:AmazonSES
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Re: Group Settings - Only Moderators Can Post?

 

This is possibly an issue of semantics; what the developers behind mean by announcements and what others mean are not necessarily the same thing. When you say 'other groups', are you referring to groups on or somewhere else? Better, perhaps, to look at what you yourself interpret as or would wish from? an announcement, then look at the tools provided to see how best to meet the requirement. Ignore the labels applied to the tools

To the best of my knowledge only has the two special cases, that is setting a group to 'Announcements', which is a shorthand for 'owners/moderators only', and 'Special Notice' which is a per-topic thing.?

There's nothing special about the messages or topics in an announcement group, beyond the exalted status and wisdom of the moderators (?). Delivery, reading etc. obeys all of the preferences set by the subscriber; so if, for instance, they chose to receive digests rather than individual messages there will be a built-in delay before they see the message. This is fine for general stuff and having the specific group allows members to apply their own filtering in mail clients for instance, or for non-email users to have a specific place to go to check up. You can also fine-tune the various delivery and reply options of course.

Sometimes you might need to ensure that a message is received urgently, and this is where checking the 'Send as a special notice' box when adding a new topic comes in. This overrides pretty much all of the delivery options apart from 'No Email'. There's a topic in the forum on special notices, /g/GroupManagersForum/message/3933 which is worth a quick read.

Something else you can consider for modifying the behaviour of topics are hashtags. For instance, by creating a hashtag with attributes 'Moderators only' and 'Locked immediately' you have a way for moderators to post what is in effect an announcement.?

Hope that helps at least a little!

Derek


Re: Group Settings - Only Moderators Can Post?

 

My thanks to Frances, Duane, and D R for helping me gain a better understanding of the matter. I hardly ever ¡°just do it¡± without understanding what I¡¯m doing.

Thank you again,
Gene


Re: New Group Settings

 

On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 05:06 PM, GBstamps wrote:
Hi Chris ¨C thanks for your reply ¨C there are 2 members listed
Aha; then they haven't actually joined, and they will need to go through the process. Some may already be a member of a group hosted by Groups.io, in which case they will already have Accounts. Those who are not already members of a Groups.io group will automatically acquire Accounts as part of the process.

As you are a UK group there is a warning I have to give you; many of your members are likely to have btinternet.com email addresses. There is a problem with these at the moment (BT have stated that it is under investigation) inasmuch as any email sent from an email client with a btinternet address to an address that has +something in it (as many Groups.io addresses do) will be misrouted. Anyone trying to apply for membership by email from a btinternet address is likely to run into problems immediately.

I suggest that you communicate with your members again and ask them to (a) go to your group's Home Page and (b) Apply for Membership in this Group using the big blue tab at the bottom. Please advise them that anyone who already has a group membership / account with Groups.io will find the process quicker and easier if they log in to their account first.

Chris


Re: New Group Settings

 

On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 11:43 AM, GBstamps wrote:
Clearly I have not set up the groups settings correctly
In looking at your group's home page, I've also found another thing you may want to change.? You have it set as an Announcement type (under Spam Control, Announcement Group is selected).? In this case, only moderators can post/reply.? If you want interaction among members, you should change that.? Since all message are moderated (require approval) before posting, you shouldn't have any problems.

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Strange behavior

 

Never had it work this way before:
Today, I (owner of a group) received the Subscription Approval Needed email. I clicked on the link to 'View Pending Member' and Chrome opened up to the prospective member's listing. I clicked on 'Approve' and was taken to the membership list page. So far, so good. BUT... that list only showed 5 members: The member I just approved, the first member that signed up with the group before the transfer which was in February, 2018, myself and two moderators. So I followed the following sequence: 'Your Groups>(my group)>Admin>Members and the list shows the 978 members I expected to see, but not the new member I just approved.?

Is this just a symptom of the overwhelmed servers or does this seem like a bug I should watch for a few days to see if it clears up and if not, report to support?

And one other thing that's not important on our group, but details of how things work always intrigue me, the actual request email came late last night (11/1) and even though I approved it today (11/2), the joined date on that new member that only showed up on the first abbreviated member list was 11/1. Is it always the case that the joined date is the date they applied and not the date they are approved?

Dave


Re: New Group Settings

GBstamps
 

Hi Chris ¨C thanks for your reply ¨C there are 2 members listed

John

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Chris Jones via Groups.Io <chrisjones12@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2019 4:59:18 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [GMF] New Group Settings
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On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 04:51 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
Depending on your settings, subscribers will not be able to access most of this content until they log in.
Duane has done what I should have done, so I have also looked at your home page and indeed I can see your 2 test messages. No File or Photos though.

However, for the moment I stand by my theory that your members haven't actually joined. Check on your Members tab; how many are listed? There are other ways of checking but that one should be perfectly sufficient.

Chris


Re: Email addresses

 

On Nov 2, 2019, at 6:31 AM, Lawrence <Lawrence@...> wrote:

As I said, I would like to be able to split some groups from one account and move them to another account without moving all of them.
Join all groups (or just the groups you want to 'split and move') with both email addresses (accounts).
If you are an Owner or Moderator set both email addresses with the privileges you desire.

Then, either:
-set one email address in each group to "No Mail" (or "Special Notices" if "No Mail" is not permitted).
OR
-unsubscribe one email address from each group as you desire.

I suggest the former.


ALTERNATELY
Change your email address (account) in the groups you want to 'split and move'


Re: Two problems with emails being sent by our group

 

On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 11:46 AM, Harvey Morgan wrote:
  • Email addresses being slightly changed
  • ?
This is done to work with email services that require DMARC compliance.? You can read about it on the Help page, /static/help#dmarc? It won't interfere with replies if they're done with a modern browser or online.

  • Emails arriving out of order
That would be the email service.? Most of the time emails from Groups.io are almost instantaneous.

Duane
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