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Re: What is the best practice for Pending Subscription notices for a restricted group #membershipapplication #membernotices

 

Agreed.? I was going to wait until my Yahoo Group transfer is complete to try to troubleshoot this more, but I did notice in a test that it was a bit confusing for the "applicant".


Re: Sorting among sent invites

 

Thanks, I deleted everyone who had a status of accepted, but I'm still getting a weird sort order by invited.??


Re: My little group's transfer saga #transfer

 

As of a couple of days ago, i was able to export my yahoo groups membership to an excel spreadsheet.

By copying their emails into a single column, I was able to create an invitation list for each group.

A tedious process, sure, but a fall back to insure no members/groups are lost in transition.

steve

On 10/31/2019 10:50 PM, Dennis Steckley wrote:
I'm terribly afraid all the groups won't get transferred before yahoo deletes everything on December 14th.? I'm trying to transfer four groups....and only one has actually made it into the queue and it's at something like #853.? At the rate things are moving, there's no way groups.io will be caught up by December 14th.? I'm hoping yahoo will have a little pity and wait a bit longer.


Claimed pending posts

 

We recently moved from Yahoo to groups io and found it great, but have come across a problem. We have three messages from people who aren't actual members, so they go into moderation. When we try to approve them, they just stay in pending and now have 'claimed by Wanda' on the right of each post title.

How do I unclaim the posts? and how do we approve them? when we click the post and then click approve, the approve button greys out for a second then comes back and the posts are sitting in pending still. Looks like io are as difficult to contact with problems as Yahoo were!

Sheila


Re: What is the best practice for Pending Subscription notices for a restricted group #membershipapplication #membernotices

 

Thank you, Victoria and Bruce, for your responses.

I'm going to de-activate the Pending Subscription notice and contact prospective new members manually to ask for the required information.

Does Groups.io have an option to ask for information when the user signs up? Yahoo has this feature and it was a big time saver for my list. The answer to the question would be included in the email to approve the member. I haven't yet seen this feature in Groups.io admin.

Much appreciated,

Jesse


Re: What is the best practice for Pending Subscription notices for a restricted group #membershipapplication #membernotices

 

Bruce,


The Welcome Notice ensures that new subscribers are informed that they have actually joined up before they begin to receive group messages. If you don't create one, will send a generic one. It cannot be eliminated, either.

I believe it can be eliminated: Create one, then uncheck its Active Message box.
Having (at least) one in your Member Notices avoids the automatic creation of one for you. Having none marked Active Message means none are sent. There was a time when you were required to have at least one active, but that is no longer the case.

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Re: Time Zone #time zone #time

 

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 03:50 PM, I wrote:
I'll be the first to admit that that isn't really a solution...? but you did say "some" way.
Actually there is a way, depending on exactly what you want / need to know. If all you require is to find out how your members are distributed geographically rather than "who is where" then a poll might provide you with the answer; it could work fairly well if all or the greater majority of your subscribers are in the US, but rather less well if they are distributed around the globe.

Set up a poll on your group asking members to record in which of the following times zones they live, with a separate "question" for each of the US time zones.(Of which there are seven by my reckoning). It might be prudent to include a "None of the above" so that anyone outside the US can provide an answer; it would be impractical to include every time zone.

You should probably include in the preamble that the poll cannot be completed by email and that members will thus have to log in and use the web UI; this is the big weakness of polls because anecdotal evidence points towards there being quite a significant percentage of group members who for whatever reason cannot or will not log in and use the web UI.

Chris


Re: What is the best practice for Pending Subscription notices for a restricted group #membershipapplication #membernotices

 

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 11:27 AM, Jesse Nahan wrote:
I very much like this pending subscription notice. However, the prospective member gets both this pending subscription notice and the automatic confirmation notice. That seems a little messy. If there is no way to turn off the confirmation notice, then I may have to return to manually responding to each notice I get of a prospective member joining.?
Jesse -- The confirmation email (which is NOT a Member Notice) is sent to those who click the "Join This Group" button on your home page while not logged in (and I believe also in some other circumstances). This is necessary to confirm that they actually own the provided email address and want to receive group messages there. They must click on the link in that email to validate their account. It cannot be turned off, but can be avoided by using some other means to sign up (send them a Invitation, have them send a +subscribe message, etc).

The Welcome Notice ensures that new subscribers are informed that they have actually joined up before they begin to receive group messages. If you don't create one, groups.io will send a generic one. It cannot be eliminated, either.

You can inhibit sending of a Pending Subscription notice by not creating one.

See?/static/help#membernotices?for further details.

Regards,
Bruce


Re: What is the best practice for Pending Subscription notices for a restricted group #membershipapplication #membernotices

 

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 04:27 PM, Jesse Nahan wrote:
I very much like this pending subscription notice. However, the prospective member gets both this pending subscription notice and the automatic confirmation notice.
If someone applies for membership in your group the confirmation notice asks the prospective member to confirm the email address.?
That seems a little messy. If there is no way to turn off the confirmation notice, then I may have to return to manually responding to each notice I get of a prospective member joining.?
As far as I know the pending supscription notice does not got out to them before they haven?t confirmed. And you don?t approve the prospective member before you haven?t received and controlled their answer to the notice.
Are there better approaches to this common problem?
This actually goes quite smoothly according to my experiences.
Victoria


Re: Transferring Yahoo group after October 28

 

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I received a Yahoo Mail account, and I use it to log into all of my groups. There are no issues with the email address or password. I can log into the account. It's just that I have somehow lost my privileges.

I signed up for premium hone support to at least talk to a human, but they told me that the support is only for email, not Groups, so I cancelled it. It seems like I am in Limbo at the moment, and I doubt that there is anything that can be done about it. I will email Yahoo support, but I'm not holding out much hope.

Larry


On 11/1/2019 11:41 AM, SP4149 wrote:

Larry,
About three years ago YahooGroups required all list? owners to have a Yahoo Mail account. AS I recall they created one for me.? Then came the OATH loyalty Pledge; in retrospect loyalty is a one way street nowadays.
When YG announced the end of stored content; I tried for two days to log in to YG using the same AOL email account as list owner that I had used for seventeen years.? All my YG lists no longer showed me as a member.
Then I remembered the Yahoo Mail account, used it to log in and all my lists reappeared with full privileges.? For transfer to groups.io I used a third, different (shastasprings.com) email account to keep the message traffic separate.
All YG list owners (and moderators, in my case) received a Yahoo mail account, like it or not.
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What is the new wait time for transferring from Yahoo? #transfer

F. Briscoe
 

Hello~

I signed up to have my group transferred from Yahoo to Groups.io this week. I'm in the step 3 of 4 phase (awaiting import). Apparently, there are 1,036 groups ahead of me! And it keeps going up, rather than down. I suspect because people are paying the additional $200 for the expedite. How long can I expect the transfer to be complete? Is it going to be longer than a week? A couple of weeks? A month, God forbid?

I understand there is a Great Migration going on, but what can kind of timeline can we expect now?

Thank you for any insight!


Re: Transferring Yahoo group after October 28

 

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 03:26 PM, Alex Maddocks wrote:
Seems they're too busy also to ever answer their emails :(
I purchased a licence for PG Offline the other day and got a response within minutes plus a further email exchange with Wilson, the creator.

Andy


Re: Transferring Yahoo group after October 28

 

I used the contact emails, sent it to both and Wilson got back to me quickly.

Diane

On Nov 1, 2019, at 11:14 AM, Alex Maddocks <maddocks@...> wrote:

<I used PG Offline.....>

I wanted to use PG Offline.... but I sent them an email a day for a week trying to get the full license for the software - not one response back
Seems they're too busy also to ever answer their emails :(


Re: Transferring Yahoo group after October 28

 

Looks like that explains. I have a yahoo email account and the groups in which I am a owner or moderator, they all showed the crown.


On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 10:45 AM SP4149 <ken@...> wrote:

Larry,
About three years ago YahooGroups required all list? owners to have a Yahoo Mail account. AS I recall they created one for me.? Then came the OATH loyalty Pledge; in retrospect loyalty is a one way street nowadays.
When YG announced the end of stored content; I tried for two days to log in to YG using the same AOL email account as list owner that I had used for seventeen years.? All my YG lists no longer showed me as a member.
Then I remembered the Yahoo Mail account, used it to log in and all my lists reappeared with full privileges.? For transfer to I used a third, different () email account to keep the message traffic separate.
All YG list owners (and moderators, in my case) received a Yahoo mail account, like it or not.
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ken clark


Re: Finding [email protected] in my members

 

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 11:53 AM, Bonnie Hunter wrote:
I finally received email that they've accepted my invite to transfer my yahoogroup -
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But when I go to search for them as a member in my members list, nothing comes up.? Is there an easier way to find them??
Bonnie -- See?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/20713?for some instructions, including screenshots.

Note that you must be the Yahoo group Owner, or a Moderator with special permissions, to do this. If you are not, find someone who is.

Or does it take some more time before they actually show up in my members list?
It shouldn't, but this *is* Yahoo Groups, so all bets are off.

Thanks for any heads up you can give. It's been a stressful week!
For a lot of people!

Bruce


Finding [email protected] in my members

Bonnie Hunter
 

I finally received email that they've accepted my invite to transfer my yahoogroup -

But when I go to search for them as a member in my members list, nothing comes up.? Is there an easier way to find them?? Or does it take some more time before they actually show up in my members list?

Thanks for any heads up you can give. It's been a stressful week!

Bonnie Hunter
Quiltville.com
Mouth of Wilson, VA



++++++++++++++++++++Hello,

By inviting?[email protected]?to join your group?Quiltville@..., you have taken the first step towards transfering your group to Groups.io.

IMPORTANT:?Yahoo Groups has been very unreliable lately. We will do our very best, but there is a good chance that we may not be able to transfer all of your messages, photos or files. We will tell you which ones we were not able to transfer. Also, the migration queue is several days long at this point. Please be patient as we work through the backlog of tranfer requests.

Here is what you need to do next:

  1. Make?[email protected]?a moderator of your Yahoo group. You can uncheck all moderator privileges if you wish.
  2. Return to the?transfer page?when you are ready to give the go ahead to transfer the group.

If you have any questions, please contact?[email protected].

Cheers,
The Groups.io Team



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Re: Time Zone #time zone #time

 

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 03:28 PM, Earl Novendstern wrote:
Is there some way I can check to see what time zone individual members are in?
Bruce's answer is correct unless (a) your members have put some clue about their locations in their profiles, and (b) you are prepared to do a lot of work to look at each and every profile in the hope that the information is there and then work out which time zone that location is in.?

I'll be the first to admit that that isn't really a solution...? but you did say "some" way.

Chris


Re: Suddenly Not Receiving Owner Messages #bug

 

Add me to the list of not receiving Owner Messages.

[Mod Note: Anyone experiencing this problem needs to click on Subscription and check both the Notifications and Owner Emails blocks for correct settings.]


Re: Transferring Yahoo group after October 28

 

Larry,
About three years ago YahooGroups required all list? owners to have a Yahoo Mail account. AS I recall they created one for me.? Then came the OATH loyalty Pledge; in retrospect loyalty is a one way street nowadays.
When YG announced the end of stored content; I tried for two days to log in to YG using the same AOL email account as list owner that I had used for seventeen years.? All my YG lists no longer showed me as a member.
Then I remembered the Yahoo Mail account, used it to log in and all my lists reappeared with full privileges.? For transfer to groups.io I used a third, different (shastasprings.com) email account to keep the message traffic separate.
All YG list owners (and moderators, in my case) received a Yahoo mail account, like it or not.
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ken clark

www.shastasprings.com


Re: Time Zone #time zone #time

 

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 11:28 AM, Earl Novendstern wrote:
Is there some way I can check to see what time zone individual members are in??
I don't think so.

Calendar management can be a pain, not because of anything groups.io does, but just the nature of group dynamics, time zones, and even the international date line.

First, it's important to understand that time zone is an account setting, not a subscription setting. Any single group can have subscribers all over the globe. So if you were to set up a calendar entry for a meeting at noon UTC, it would show up on my calendar as occurring at 4:00 PM EDT.

Assuming all of your subscribers are local, your Default Sub Setting for time zone will be applied whenever a new subscription is set up for someone who didn't already have a groups.io account. If that person already has an account, those defaults will not be applied; and each affected subscriber will have to update his time zone manually (HINT: it's on the?/account?page=prefs?page).?

I have not actually tested every single bit of this but that's the way I understand it.

Regards,
Bruce