Thank you, Duane.

I see no reason for the customized rejection message not showing in the drop down Notice menu at the bottom of the message box when you write to a prospective member you wish to reject.

However, I have tried a different approach and set up a Note to Member Notice, with a view to sending it as a standard message when rejecting a subscription request, but I found out that the system does not save the message.

From the Settings Menu I chose Member Notices > New Notice > Note to Member > Add Notice, but the system did not save my message.

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Marina

The issue with newline characters in the ICS file has been fixed (as mentioned in this weeks' changelog on beta).? As well as loading correctly in Outlook, it also now works when syncing to Google Calendar.

Mark believes the issue with 'all day' subgroup events appearing on the wrong (previous) day is time zone related and he will investigate further when he returns from holiday w/c 29-Apr.

Regards,
Andy

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 10:17 PM, Tami Sheheri wrote:

Yikes!!! What a mess...Sorry!

Tami -- Not to worry. I will merge the two threads. It's not that big of a deal.

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Yikes!!! What a mess...Sorry! I was having trouble figuring out how to reply to my own post and apparently failed miserably (insert blushing emoji here). You can go ahead and delete them.?

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 08:02 PM, Duane wrote:

If the last owner wants to leave the group, they can always delete it.

Which is something that I find highly problematic from a philosophical perspective, though I do know that the software supports it.

Though the owner of a group should have extremely broad powers, if there is years of content generated almost exclusively by members they have every bit as large a stake in a group being ongoing as someone who may have created it does.

That being said, trying to work out any sort of defined, "order of succession" is so impractical that there's no way any forums software developer could establish such.? I just hope that most group owners will have to common decency to find or have arrangements for a successor whenever one would become necessary.

As far as I'm concerned, digital or on paper, once something's "published" it's published.? You should not be easily able to unring a bell.
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- I sent an invite to 50 people of our club, igot the message and see
nothing more in the "sent invitation" list

That list should show you the status of each of those 50 invitations. The normal status would be Sent or Accepted, but Failed is also possible.

-? when my invitation request will receive moderation (checking that
what i send is not spam but looks like a true group data), all the
pending invite will be sent and added to the "sent invitation" list

I'm not certain what the Status shows during the time before Groups.io approves your Invite list. From what you say they aren't even listed until then. That's not too surprising.

(a warning message at this time could be a good point),

I agree.

At the very minimum I think the site should put up a banner at the top of the invite page after you click "Send Invitations" explaining that there may be a delay for approval, and that there is no need to re-submit the addresses.

(it could be gained to be writen in the pricing sheet as a common spam
restriction, perhaps with response delay shorten/guaranteed for
enterprise paid subscriptions).

I doubt Mark will want to do that. The pricing list used to list "premium access to support" or something like that for the paid plans, but he eventually removed it because he didn't want to promise something he didn't know how to quantify. This might fall into the same category.

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On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 06:48 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

and probably should not be able to remove him or herself as Owner until and unless there's someone else in the group who has that role.

There is already a feature that won't allow the last owner to leave the group.? I don't see a way to force them to add another owner (although several of us highly advise having a backup) in case of an emergency.? If the last owner wants to leave the group, they can always delete it.

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On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 02:26 PM, Duane wrote:

Nope.? I changed myself to owner (and back) and could have removed everyone else and/or deleted the group

Which, to my mind, is a honkin' big security hole that Mark should patch.? Unless you are Owner you had ought not ever be able to make yourself one.? That is the one, and only, thing that I feel should be completely exclusive to the Owner role.? The Owner should be able to add another one, if desired, and probably should not be able to remove him or herself as Owner until and unless there's someone else in the group who has that role.? Ideally self-demotion should probably not be possible.? The other Owner(s) should do that when desired.
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Thanks for answers, could you confirm what i understand on how it work :
- I sent an invite to 50 people of our club, igot the message and see nothing more in the "sent invitation" list
-? when my invitation request will receive moderation (checking that what i send is not spam but looks like a true group data), all the pending invite will be sent and added to the "sent invitation" list

I understand this spam restriction that seem to be 3 years old, so it might be writen/explained somewhere ... because it seems to me of common use to invite a lot of people when starting a group (like migrate a previously existing group from other platform) (a warning message at this time could be a good point), a warning could also be included near the "send invitation" button, that could be more clear and probably avoid multiple sending for people that doesn't understand why it doesn't work (my first reflex was to remove some sent invitation to make room for new one and send again the file -> giving twice the job to moderator because of lack of warning.

But this restriction is writen nowhere, i have to reach this forum to get the knowledge, not very obvious for non english speaking moderators/owners (it could be gained to be writen in the pricing sheet as a common spam restriction, perhaps with response delay shorten/guaranteed for enterprise paid subscriptions).
Best regards

Duane

Now you’re about 10 feet above my head. Not sure exactly (or even a lower standard) what you’re saying.

Does this belong in a BUG report?

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 05:49 PM, Shal Farley wrote:

I'd like to see it raised again.

Right; it's been raised on beta.

I'm pretty sure I asked for it once long ago but some group owners didn't want it shown to moderators, for fear of hurt feelings or arguments ("why won't you let me xxx"); in my own view that concern is silly. Worse than silly, it reflects the kind of manager that gives their subordinates the "mushroom treatment".

The term micromanagement springs to mind, amongst other things.

Chris

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 09:12 PM, Tami Sheheri wrote:

I searched past posts and found my answer.

Tami; I'm glad you have found the answer.

However... a small point of order; you answered your own question in another post (that's OK!) but you did it such a way that it didn't follow your original query, because you started a new topic simply by changing the subject line. As a result the question, and your own answer to it, appear as completely separate topics.

Now one of the group moderators may merge to the two threads, but even that may not provide a complete solution.?

Can I plead with you to try to avoid this in the future? Pleeese?

Chris

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 03:54 PM, Josh Halpern wrote:

1.? Can the +Add new line button be moved to the top of the page.? It is time consuming to scroll down for each new entry

This is not currently a group- or user-configurable option.?I would prefer that *all* of the database controls be at the top, not just the Add button.

2.? Can the list display be forced to allow only a single line for each entry.

If you set a width for any table column, the others will be scaled to accommodate it (note: these widths are in PIXELS, not characters).

Somewhat obviously, whether everything will fit is highly dependent on screen width, the number of columns in the database table, and the length of individual table entries. What looks good on your computer may not look good on someone else's.?

I find that I get my best formatting on all devices by?leaving all column widths at zero (the default). You might want to also go through all your table data and remove any non-breaking spaces, replacing them with actual (i.e.: html-friendly) whitespace characters.
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I searched past posts and found my answer. The NC people have not yet replied to the email verification link, apparently. Thx!

I have two questions

1.? Can the +Add new line button be moved to the top of the page.? It is time consuming to scroll down for each new entry
2.? Can the list display be forced to allow only a single line for each entry.

Thanks
Josh Halpern
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Hello,
I've started a group and for some reason, despite my approving some people, a few of them show up with a pink NC next to their names...not confirmed. But I've approved them and have no limits on their posting. Anyone know how I can fix this? Thank you!
-Tami

Hi David,

Seeing that your message was posted a year ago I assume you've already discovered this, but in case not, I had the same question and just found Settings > Export Group Data.?

Cheers!
Teri

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On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 11:49 AM, Shal Farley wrote:

I think the only thing the moderator can't do with that permission is change someone's role to or from Owner. I think.

Nope.? I changed myself to owner (and back) and could have removed everyone else and/or deleted the group.? That's why I was thinking maybe you'd restricted it.

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On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 12:49 PM, Shal Farley wrote:

Showing that same list of checkboxes, but disabled (unchangeable), would be a way of letting moderators figure out for themselves why they can or can't do certain things in the group. I don't like mysterious (lack of) functionality in user interfaces - I'm a firm believer in de-mystifying where practical.

Agreed.

At some risk, I have split off this thread and given it a new, more relevant subject line. Those who wish to further discuss customization of message footers (as opposed to looking up Moderator privileges), please reply to the original thread.

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