Re: I thought as moderators we'd have an "Add a member" feature here at groups.io?
That's available only for paid groups.
On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 6:20 PM Alex < acensor@...> wrote: Most of us present or ex yahoo moderators lamented the loss of the "add members" feature at yahoogroups when Yahoo removed it.
I thought when I decided to move one group here from yahoo that there was going to be a add-members feature here (not just "invite.")
Am I remembering incorrectly? Or can someone tell me where to find it?
Alex
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I thought as moderators we'd have an "Add a member" feature here at groups.io?
Most of us present or ex yahoo moderators lamented the loss of the "add members" feature at yahoogroups when Yahoo removed it.
I thought when I decided to move one group here from yahoo that there was going to be a add-members feature here (not just "invite.")
Am I remembering incorrectly? Or can someone tell me where to find it?
Alex
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Re: still looking for an answer
Thanks for the clarification.
See I am not computer savoy and interpreted it wrong.
Then why was Sugar originally told to be careful??
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Date: 12/18/2018 4:44:06 PM
Subject: Re: [GMF] still looking for an answer
? On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 05:34 PM, magicalkingdomgroups@... wrote:
But the IO pages say that your messages?will not be saved when it goes to a new URL Ilene/Sugar -- The above statement is not true. You can change your group name, and all the content (including the messages) will still be there. What happens is that LINKS that you may have created within the group email archive, or on the group home page, and so on, will no longer "connect up."? Please read the wiki entry again. /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Renaming-a-GroupIf you find this discussion confusing, it may well be that creating a new group and moving everyone there will be the most straightforward option. I just want to be sure that no one reads this thread a year from now and comes away thinking that changing their group name is invariably an unrecoverable disaster. It is not...but you DO have to know what you're doing. Regards, Bruce -- The system Help is your friend.?? /static/help
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Sugar Lopez == [GMF] still looking for an answer
Congrats Sugar?  ? Glad it¡¯s
all working for you. Ellen
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From: Sugar Lopez
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: Sugar Lopez == [GMF] still looking for an
answer
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Tanks. Ellen
I already changed the name and it
was not a huge deal as I thought it was.
Nothing changed, messages are
still there, members are still there.
All that changed was address and
URL
Which I saved and sent it out to
the members and posted? to the list
Smile
I appreciate that
Sugar
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Re: still looking for an answer
Thank you Bruce I get it now. After I went to General settings I changed old name¡±The-Diabetic-corner-With-Sugar¡± to new name¡± BlindDiabetics4Jesus¡± Then after the general name underneath there is subject edit field that I also changed to (BlindDiabetics4Jesus) TheURL was automatically changed and I got that as well. So far there is nothing that is updated to the file section and that part of settings is disabled for now. No pictures allowed either. I don¡¯t think uploading on the file section will occur but if there is a issue I will come back here. Thank you so much I appreciate all the advice and suggestions. Truly Sugar
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bruce Bowman
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 3:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] still looking for an answer ? On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 05:50 PM, Sugar Lopez wrote: Thanks. I already changed the name, updated the group Before this I exported the data and members and archives. So I have that saved on another file Then I just renamed the group and sent that info out All is good now
Exporting the group before changing the name was a wise move!
There could be some problems that you haven't run into yet. I will give you an example...
When you upload a file, there's an opportunity to post a notice to the group. The notice subject will say something like "New file uploaded to [email protected]."?The message will contain other references to the group name, including a link to the file:
"You can access this file at the URL:
/g/groupname/files/filename.pdf (or whatever)"
Groups.io will not parse these messages and update "groupname" to "newgroupname." So the message Subject will still refer to the old group name, as will the link...if someone now clicks on it, they will get a "404 file not found" error.
Similarly, if you have manually inserted links to "groupname" content in a database, home page, or [especially] your wiki, you may find many of them to be broken. Links between items as accessed through the groups.io menu system, however, should still work.
Depending on how you use your group, such things may or may not be a big concern. Just be on the lookout for it.
Regards,
Bruce
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Re: still looking for an answer
On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 05:50 PM, Sugar Lopez wrote:
Thanks. I already changed the name, updated the group
Before this I exported the data and members and archives.
So I have that saved on another file
Then I just renamed the group and sent that info out
All is good now
Exporting the group before changing the name was a wise move! There could be some problems that you haven't run into yet. I will give you an example... When you upload a file, there's an opportunity to post a notice to the group. The notice subject will say something like "New file uploaded to [email protected]."?The message will contain other references to the group name, including a link to the file: "You can access this file at the URL: /g/groupname/files/filename.pdf (or whatever)" Groups.io will not parse these messages and update "groupname" to "newgroupname." So the message Subject will still refer to the old group name, as will the link...if someone now clicks on it, they will get a "404 file not found" error. Similarly, if you have manually inserted links to "groupname" content in a database, home page, or [especially] your wiki, you may find many of them to be broken. Links between items as accessed through the groups.io menu system, however, should still work. Depending on how you use your group, such things may or may not be a big concern. Just be on the lookout for it. Regards, Bruce -- The system Help is your friend.?? /static/help
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Re: Logging In and Setting a password
I actually don't think that's true at all.? I'm pretty sure that even if you use a 'strange' computer, would still send an email to your registered email address.
On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 2:00 PM Bob Bellizzi < cdfexec@...> wrote: I'm with Shal.? I have accounts in other places where I don't need to use a password but am identified by other means.??
If you search for "login" you will find more than one dictionary definition that indicates, nothing about using a password but does say to enter your identity to be allowed to use a system.
In the case of Groups.io, when you ask to send you a link to log in, the system identifies you automatically and sends you the link.? If you were to? use a 'strange' computer where you had never used your subscription, you would not receive a response.
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Re: Sugar Lopez == [GMF] still looking for an answer
Tanks. Ellen
I already changed the name and it was not a huge deal as I thought it was.
Nothing changed, messages are still there, members are still there.
All that changed was address and URL
Which I saved and sent it out to the members and posted? to the list
Smile
I appreciate that
Sugar
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Re: still looking for an answer
Hi friend Thanks. I already changed the name, updated the group Before this I exported the data and members and archives. So I have that saved on another file Then I just renamed the group and sent that info out All is good now Thank you Sugar ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of magicalkingdomgroups@...
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 2:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] still looking for an answer ? I have no idea if you will get notification But the IO pages say that your messages?will not be saved when it goes to a new URL Why don't you just open up a New?Group with the name you want and then invite the other 3 people to join the NEW group.?Then keep the old group as a reference if you need to look up messages. [excess quote trimmed by Moderator] | |
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Re: still looking for an answer
On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 05:34 PM, magicalkingdomgroups@... wrote:
But the IO pages say that your messages?will not be saved when it goes to a new URL
Ilene/Sugar -- The above statement is not true. You can change your group name, and all the content (including the messages) will still be there. What happens is that LINKS that you may have created within the group email archive, or on the group home page, and so on, will no longer "connect up."? Please read the wiki entry again. /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Renaming-a-GroupIf you find this discussion confusing, it may well be that creating a new group and moving everyone there will be the most straightforward option. I just want to be sure that no one reads this thread a year from now and comes away thinking that changing their group name is invariably an unrecoverable disaster. It is not...but you DO have to know what you're doing. Regards, Bruce -- The system Help is your friend.?? /static/help
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Re: still looking for an answer
I have no idea if you will get notification
I assume so
But the IO pages say that your messages?will not be saved when it goes to a new URL
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Why don't you just open up a New?Group with the name you want and then invite the other 3 people to join the NEW group.?Then keep the old group as a reference if you need to look up messages.
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Hugs Ilene?
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Sugar Lopez == [GMF] still looking for an answer
Hi Sugar
You could just make a new group .. have everyone join it. Then, delete the original group. I had to do this when 2 members complained the original address was too similar to another one they had and they were deleting mail by mistake. Mine is a very small group also.
Ellen
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Re: still looking for an answer
Ilene
Thank you so very much for tis so simple explaination
It is truly appreciated. Smile
Thank you
There is only 4 members right now since it is a new group so let me ask
Will I get a notification of the new info once I change the name?
Smile
Sugar
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of magicalkingdomgroups@... Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 10:21 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [GMF] still looking for an answer
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No question makes anyone?seem dumb.
I am not computer literate and I talk plain language and not computer talk.
Maybe you will understand me.
How do change name - but before you do that read below
If you go to your home page of the group.
The first thing you see is the topic General
Under Group Title put the name change
Then also change the group email address to what you want it to be.
Change the description to reflect the new name.
Scroll to the bottom and click on update
When it was said to BE CAREFUL - changing the groups name comes with consequences and you should make sure you want to do it.
Just remember when you change the name of the group the URL changes
Your members will have to be informed of that change
Old group content and group-related links will not be updated to the new URL
Previously sent emails will not exist
It is like starting a NEW GROUP
RATHER THEN CHANGE THE NAME FORMALLY - just CHANGE HOW THE NAME WILL SHOW UP IN Emails. Example: When mail is sent the subject line for this group reads [GMF] rather then GroupManagersForum
You can shorten the name that appears in the subject line. This way all?messages will stay?with the group and the URL for posting won't change.?
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Re: still looking for an answer
Hi Frances It is a tiny group of only 4 including me, new but the name is to long and is getting in the way of some e mail clients So I want to shorten it or change the name to make it more simple Basically I¡¯m the only one that pos rifht now. ? What I want to know is once I do what Ilene stated and updating tge group, will I receive the info with the new URL and info? once the changes ar done? sugar ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Frances
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 9:54 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] still looking for an answer ? Sugar, Bruce replied. With a link. He also says be careful!
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Renaming-a-Group
If depends what you are trying to achieve. Our travel group wanted a name change but decided really what we wanted was a better display name in the public groups directory - although our group is private.
So create a subgroup with the name you want. Add a description that says that this is a subgroup of <your actual group name>. Edit the description in the homepage of the subgroup with a hyperlink to your actual main group, inviting people to click and visit to join.
See?/g/TRAVEL-ZINE
Linda, founder of the Zine figured this out. Smart lady!
Frances
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Re: Logging In and Setting a password
I'm with Shal.? I have accounts in other places where I don't need to use a password but am identified by other means.?? If you search for "login" you will find more than one dictionary definition that indicates, nothing about using a password but does say to enter your identity to be allowed to use a system. In the case of Groups.io, when you ask groups.io to send you a link to log in, the system identifies you automatically and sends you the link.? If you were to? use a 'strange' computer where you had never used your groups.io subscription, you would not receive a response. --
Bob Bellizzi
Founder, Fuchs Friends??
Founder & Executive Director,?
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Re: still looking for an answer
No question makes anyone?seem dumb.
I am not computer literate and I talk plain language and not computer talk.
Maybe you will understand me.
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How do change name - but before you do that read below
If you go to your home page of the group.
Click on Admin Settings
The first thing you see is the topic General
Under Group Title put the name change
Then also change the group email address to what you want it to be.
Change the description to reflect the new name.
Scroll to the bottom and click on update
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When it was said to BE CAREFUL - changing the groups name comes with consequences and you should make sure you want to do it.
?
Just remember when you change the name of the group the URL changes
Your members will have to be informed of that change
Old group content and group-related links will not be updated to the new URL
Previously sent emails will not exist
It is like starting a NEW GROUP
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RATHER THEN CHANGE THE NAME FORMALLY - just CHANGE HOW THE NAME WILL SHOW UP IN Emails. Example: When mail is sent the subject line for this group reads [GMF] rather then GroupManagersForum
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You can shorten the name that appears in the subject line. This way all?messages will stay?with the group and the URL for posting won't change.?
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Ilene
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Date: 12/18/18 11:35:07
Subject: [GMF] still looking for an answer
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Hi
I read the article*link* that someone posted for me abut changing the name of my group
I am sorry and forgive my ignorance but I don¡¯t understand how to go about it
I realize I need to be careful but can someone tell me or explain how to go about this and if I can change or shortn the name of the group?
I have contacted Mark and I am still waiting for a reply
I have not posted here much because I don¡¯t know much and don¡¯t want to seem or feel dumb.
so I am looking for guidance, please.
Thank you
Sugar
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Sugar, Bruce replied. With a link. He also says be careful! /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Renaming-a-GroupIf depends what you are trying to achieve. Our travel group wanted a name change but decided really what we wanted was a better display name in the public groups directory - although our group is private. So create a subgroup with the name you want. Add a description that says that this is a subgroup of <your actual group name>. Edit the description in the homepage of the subgroup with a hyperlink to your actual main group, inviting people to click and visit to join. See? /g/TRAVEL-ZINELinda, founder of the Zine figured this out. Smart lady! Frances --
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still looking for an answer
Hi I read the article*link* that someone posted for me abut changing the name of my group I am sorry and forgive my ignorance but I don¡¯t understand how to go about it I realize I need to be careful but can someone tell me or explain how to go about this and if I can change or shortn the name of the group? I have contacted Mark and I am still waiting for a reply I have not posted here much because I don¡¯t know much and don¡¯t want to seem or feel dumb. so I am looking for guidance, please. Thank you Sugar
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Re: Logging In and Setting a password
Chris, I know the following comment can be seen as an exercise in pedantry
but I /don't /like it; if anyone wants to log in then more or less by
definition they must use a password. Not only pedantry, but IMO flat-out wrong. There's no difference between having logged in using a password versus using a login link by email. They do exactly the same thing: set a login cookie in your browser. While the means are different, I wouldn't want language that implies that using a login link leaves you not logged in, or somehow differently logged in. That would just lead to confusion. Or at least to unnecessary concern and questioning. Shal -- Help: /static/helpMore Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiEven More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list
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Michael, I get a "Gmail return" for all posts to our io.groups forum, including
my own posts. What do you mean by a "Gmail return"? I am having the same issue. Are you sure? The warning we've been talking about has a screenshot here: /g/GroupManagersForum/message/13433Is that what you mean by a "return"? Or something else? Shal -- Help: /static/helpMore Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiEven More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list
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