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Re: Bug in subscription
#bug
After the confirmed email is then approved nothing appears in the sub group. I will ping support, I think it's a bug On Sun, Oct 14, 2018, 9:22 PM Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote: On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 08:08 PM, William Finn wrote: |
Re: Bug in subscription
#bug
On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 08:08 PM, William Finn wrote:
It seems pretty weird on the surface; but is consistent with the subscription logic (one cannot join the subgroup unless you're already a member of main). What happens when you try to join both at once? Beats me. And so I'm intrigued. Is the email address still NC? Perhaps once it's confirmed the pending subgroup join request will magically appear. Or perhaps once you approve the main group request and then he will mysteriously show up in the subgroup, too. The work-around is fairly obvious, but I would be tempted to contact support anyway, just to elucidate Mark's thinking on this. Regards, Bruce -- The system Help is your friend.??/static/help |
Re: Bug in subscription
#bug
The person only appeared in the main groups pending list not in the sub groups pending list Both were set to restricted On Sun, Oct 14, 2018, 7:32 PM Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote: Liam, |
Re: Bug in subscription
#bug
Liam,
Set to moderation 1 email.That is unrelated to joining the group (the +subscribe function). Both main and sub group are set to require approval.You mean both have the "Restricted Membership" box checked, correct? Approval was requested for main group but not the sub groupDid the person appear in the Pending Approval list on the subgroup's Members page? You (as owner / moderator of the subgroup) have a set of checkboxes for the notifications you'll receive. That Subscription page is separate for each subgroup and the primary group. So not being notified of the needed approval might be a function of your Subscription settings. On the other hand, if the member did not appear in the Pending Approval list that sounds like a bug. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
Re: Regularly dropped from Group
Hi
I believe the "email me a link" login just lasts 30 days.?Also, logins expire after 30 days, or whenever browser cookies are deleted. Here's a useful post -?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/12131 This from the wiki has info about changing or adding a password. /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/How-to-Set-a-Personal-Password-and-Profile%3B-Changing-Email-Address Frances |
Re: Bug in subscription
#bug
Set to moderation 1 email.
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The additions were done with non confirmed email addresses. The test emails were never used prior to testing.?
Both main and sub group are set to require approval.
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Approval was requested for main group but not the sub group
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Liam?
On Sun, Oct 14, 2018, 5:47 PM Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:
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Re: Regularly dropped from Group
Richard,
Every month or so, I find I am not subscribed and have to re-do it.Not subscribed? It sounds like you were simply logged out. If you were simply logged out you'd still receive group messages and notifications by email, assuming you haven't disabled email in your Subscription pages. In addition I have to ask to be sent a link, because my password isAny time you are logged in, go to your Account page. Get there from the drop-menu under your name in the upper right-hand corner of any Groups.io page. There you can enter a new password into the box and click "Change Password" to update it. ad why am I dropped every month or so, even being the Owner.From your description I don't think you are being dropped or unsubscribed. The browser cookie that keeps you logged in has a one-month expiration, so needing to log back in periodically is normal. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
Re: Direct Add commas appearing in Display Name.
Bill Perry
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI can understand the reasoning for this limit, it¡¯s just a shame it¡¯s not clearly and simply documented for new users, especially as I paid for the ¡°direct add¡± feature today to get the process completed more quickly and with the least amount of hassle for my members. Now a group of 50 of them, who I told in a separate email would be receiving the ¡°Welcome¡± and ¡°You¡¯ve now been added emails¡± this evening will get them, ?I don¡¯t know when. ? Oh hum! ? Bill ? ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Duane ? On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 03:16 PM, Bill Perry wrote: I've now run into another problem or undocumented feature. Yes, there's a limit of 20 per 24 hours for Invites or Direct Adds.? It was implemented as a result of a spammer attack a couple of years ago, .? There was some question about why it applies to Direct Add since those groups are paid for, but I don't think Mark ever supplied an answer.? He usually approves these quickly and there have been reports that it isn't always required on future 'batches'. |
Regularly dropped from Group
Every month or so, I find I am not subscribed and have to re-do it.
Doing it seems to cover two groups I own. In the six months of Groups.io, no member has asked me about it leading me to think it is not happening to them. If it did they would be asking. (One member did not realize there was a homepage.) In addition I have to ask to be sent a link, because my password is rejected. How can I change my password, ad why am I dropped every month or so, even being the Owner. I tried the Wiki and found nothing to help, but that is probably my own fault. Thanks, -- Richard |
Re: Bug in subscription
#bug
On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 04:15 PM, William Finn wrote:
When a new user subscribes to a sub group using the above mentioned email they are added to the main group and not the sub group.More information is needed. What are your Spam Control settings for the main group and the subgroup? Was the addition done using a previously confirmed email address?? Regards, Bruce? -- The system Help is your friend.??/static/help |
Re: Formatting Wiki Pages
#howtoguide
#wiki
On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 01:10 PM, JMichaelTX wrote:
Markdown is not a native browser language, so at some point it's being converted to html for display. You can see the html by using the "view source" (or similar menu selection) in your browser while viewing your wiki after you're done with composition. In principle, it should then be possible to extract that html, apply some of the the styles to your tags, and save it back via the editor. Having said all that, if you're not fairly proficient with html then none of this bootstrap.css stuff is likely to make sense anyway. I agree with Shal that it wouldn't hurt to report your original problem to support; however, I didn't see anything in to suggest that table cell borders are a supported markdown feature. My recommendation would be to open the wiki file in the html editor. Switch to html in your preferences, open the editor, then click on the far right icon (looks like three bars) then again on the far right icon (looks like <>). This will display the html source. Look for the tag with the TABLE attribute. Immediately after TABLE, insert border="1" cellpadding="5" width="100%", then save.? These are deprecated html constructs, but if the groups.io editor doesn't strip them, they should give you what you want. Good luck, Bruce? -- The system Help is your friend.??/static/help |
Re: Direct Add commas appearing in Display Name.
On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 03:16 PM, Bill Perry wrote:
I've now run into another problem or undocumented feature.Yes, there's a limit of 20 per 24 hours for Invites or Direct Adds.? It was implemented as a result of a spammer attack a couple of years ago, .? There was some question about why it applies to Direct Add since those groups are paid for, but I don't think Mark ever supplied an answer.? He usually approves these quickly and there have been reports that it isn't always required on future 'batches'. Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
Re: Direct Add commas appearing in Display Name.
Bill Perry
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Your instruction " I recommend against writing to a CSV. Instead select the (desired rows of) the column in Excel and copy / paste directly into the Direct Add address box." This worked fine. Thanks for the suggestion. I've now run into another problem or undocumented feature. I had about 70 members in total to add. As a trial using the above method I added 2 batches of 10, and then as it was working I added the last 50 as one batch. The system came back and said that I'd reached the maximum number of direct add and this need approval, but I have not found anywhere any indication there is a maximum that I can load and in what period. Or who has to give the approval or how long that might take. Very surprised at such a low number. Bill -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Shal Farley Sent: 14 October 2018 19:18 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GMF] Direct Add commas appearing in Display Name. Bill, > the extra comma does not appear. They only appear if copied from the > Excel generated csv file, In Excel you have to make sure the Display Name and the address are in the same column, otherwise an intervening comma in the CSV is inevitable. I recommend against writing to a CSV. Instead select the (desired rows of) the column in Excel and copy / paste directly into the Direct Add address box. I use the CONCATENATE() function to build the desired string in an auxiliary column. For example, if Column A has the email addresses, and Column B has the Display Names, I create another column containing the formula: =CONCATENATE("""",$B3,""" <",$A3,">") Note that I put " marks around the Display Name - I did that because some of my members have commas in their Display name. Without that complication it would be simply: =CONCATENATE($B3," <",$A3,">") Copy that formula into all the rows of the auxiliary column and now you have a copy/paste -able column for Direct Add (or Invite). Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
Bug in subscription
#bug
Hi,
I created a main group. Inside this group I created some sub groups. Each sub group has a subscription email address. When a new user subscribes to a sub group using the above mentioned email they are added to the main group and not the sub group. Being added to the main group is expected behavior but one would also expect being joined to the sub group also. Do I misunderstand how it should work or did I find a bug? Liam |
Re: Direct Add commas appearing in Display Name.
Bill,
the extra comma does not appear. They only appear if copied from theIn Excel you have to make sure the Display Name and the address are in the same column, otherwise an intervening comma in the CSV is inevitable. I recommend against writing to a CSV. Instead select the (desired rows of) the column in Excel and copy / paste directly into the Direct Add address box. I use the CONCATENATE() function to build the desired string in an auxiliary column. For example, if Column A has the email addresses, and Column B has the Display Names, I create another column containing the formula: =CONCATENATE("""",$B3,""" <",$A3,">") Note that I put " marks around the Display Name - I did that because some of my members have commas in their Display name. Without that complication it would be simply: =CONCATENATE($B3," <",$A3,">") Copy that formula into all the rows of the auxiliary column and now you have a copy/paste -able column for Direct Add (or Invite). Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
Re: Formatting Wiki Pages
#howtoguide
#wiki
JMichaelTX,
Thanks for your reply. I have read, and re-read, that (this) threadThe CSS file (or a version of it) is already applied to every page on site. The work-around discussed is using those definitions to achieve desired effects when editing HTML entities in Source Code mode (a feature of the HTML composition boxes). I am using Markdown, so that may limit my choices. Any suggestions?Probably. I don't imagine Markdown composition offers an equivalent feature - it would almost have to be an edit feature of the preview window. Is this a groups.io bug that should be reported?The inability to reference those CSS definitions in Markdown isn't a bug; maybe a limitation but that probably wouldn't be the right way to address limitations of the available formatting in Markdown. Your original complaint in #12509 about the missing borders and gaps in the rendered Markdown output may be a bug. I think I'd report it to [email protected] as one. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
Re: Direct Add commas appearing in Display Name.
Bill Perry
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThanks for your quick responses. ? An interesting twist in this is if I directly type in an address or two into the Addresses pane, as I did after I sent my previous email, then the extra comma does not appear. They only appear if copied from the Excel generated csv file, or if then that has been opened in notepad, to ensure that the file is as clean as it can be, from extraneous commas. ? I¡¯ll try something else and get back to you once done. ? Bill ? ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Duane ? On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 12:11 PM, Bill Perry wrote: Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong? Sure sounds like a bug that should be reported to [email protected].? Mark has done some work on the Direct Add recently, so this may be something that sneaked in. |
Re: Resend "Confirm" message
On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 12:11 PM, Charlie at Duke wrote:
I had expected it to be on the "Actions" list on the pending members page.You could suggest this on , the official suggestion box for the site.? I'm thinking that it's not on the pending member page because it's of no serious consequence unless they've become a member, but adding it to the Action list does make sense. Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
Re: Direct Add commas appearing in Display Name.
Bill,
but when on the ¡°Admin/Members¡± screen, this extra comma is also shownIf those commas were truly not in the addresses as you entered them then this looks like a bug to me, and a recent one. I Direct Add'd several dozen members a few weeks ago without this happening - using exactly the format you show as example (copy/pasted from Excel). I'd report that to [email protected] as a bug. Leave an example intact if you can and cited it by group name and member address. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |