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Re: Polls

 

The poll is there.
I just looked
It is message?#396
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Beck you wouldn't be able to vote as you do no have permission to post to that group and that is maybe why you don't see the poll.
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The results show that only 10 members voted.
9 of those members had permission to post email to the group.
1 did at the time of joining and then her permissions were changed.
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No member?was able to vote whose status was cannot post to the group.
Those members had sent me email to my personal email address with their vote.
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Date: 10/11/18 14:11:07
Subject: Re: [GMF] Polls
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ILene,
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Poll does not show I just looked.
If it shows will vote.
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Re: Owner not showing up on member list

 

Hi Shal,

Well, I am completely embarrassed here.? As we decided to test this venue with just a small closed group of our active art guild rather than the large virtual discussion group as we had on Yahoo!, the members list is currently very short.? We wanted to see how we liked Groups.io before expanding it.? Long story short, part of what was puzzling me was that I was NOT seeing my name/email as the owner on the Members list because it was in chronological order and it turns out I was the ONLY one listed on page 2 (oops).? All this time I had been wondering why the owner wouldn't be listed, but just chalked it up to being a quirk of the site.? Nobody else was really "missing" so I never bothered to scroll down far enough to click over to another page.? DUH!!!? I didn't pursue it until yesterday when I made one of the other members an owner and she was still on the list with "Owner" next to it.? That's when I decided to delve in and ask some questions.

I did not do a true migration of our whole Yahoo! Group?for a variety of reasons, mainly because that group had a different owner who was out of the picture and there was a ton of old stuff we didn't want to carry over.? We wanted a fresh start so I simply copied an email list of the members we were moving over and auto-added them to our Groups.io account to avoid the invitation process.? So, I don't think there will be any serious consequences of removing my second "Yahoo!" membership here, but please let me know if you think otherwise with this additional info.??

Thanks once again for your timely response, and I'm terribly sorry that I took up your time with what ended up to be a really dumb question.

Have a great day,
Maureen??


Re: Importing a csv list

 

Many thanks to all who responded - it¡¯s giving me confidence to recommend our Members that transferring would be a good move.

A further question: does the Y! Group from which the transfer has taken place retain the data until it is closed/deleted? ?In other words I suppose, is the information copied as opposed to deleted - in Microsoft speak, Cut and Paste or Copy and paste?

Thank you

Peter


Re: Polls

 

On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 02:42 PM, magicalkingdomgroups@... wrote:
So now I am beginning to think that only members who can write to the group can vote in polls.
"New Poll" used to be buried within "New Topic"...you had to click "New Topic" first and from the resulting screen click on the "New Poll" button. Although Mark has very recently moved it back out to its own left-side menu item it's likely that the two still share the same member permissions.
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Re: Polls

 

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ILene,
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Poll does not show I just looked.
If it shows will vote.
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Hugs
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I sent an email about a poll a while ago and didn't receive any answer.
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I created a poll to a group where only a handful of members out of 703 members can post to the group.?
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It seems the only members who were able to vote in the poll were the members who can post mail to the group. The others received messages back saying the poll was unavailable to them.
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I went over the list of things they needed to do, like make sure they were signed in.
Only to receive a note from one member saying "I am NOT DUMB" I was signed in.
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Now a?member rejoined because she accidently removed herself while trying to vote in the poll and before I could change her status so she can't post in the group, she voted.
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So now I am beginning to think that only members who can write to the group can vote in polls. Ilene
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Polls

 

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I sent an email about a poll a while ago and didn't receive any answer.
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I created a poll to a group where only a handful of members out of 703 members can post to the group.?
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It seems the only members who were able to vote in the poll were the members who can post mail to the group. The others received messages back saying the poll was unavailable to them.
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I went over the list of things they needed to do, like make sure they were signed in.
Only to receive a note from one member saying "I am NOT DUMB" I was signed in.
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Now a?member rejoined because she accidently removed herself while trying to vote in the poll and before I could change her status so she can't post in the group, she voted.
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So now I am beginning to think that only members who can write to the group can vote in polls. Ilene
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Re: Posts passing without being approved

 

Victoria,


How can this happen?

Or, you may have one or more thread with a hashtag carrying the Replies Unmoderated option.

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And what can I do about it?

Review your hashtag list, opening the edit page for each until you find it. Then decide whether you want to remove that option from the hashtag, or remove that hashtag from current topics.

Shal


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Re: Posts passing without being approved

 

Victoria,


I set my group on ¡°moderated¡± in ¡°Spam Control¡± temporarily, meaning that posts need approval before being sent to the group. The problem is that this doesn?t work perfectly. There is always a post or two going through without being approved.


You may have one or more group members who are set to Override: not moderated in their Posting Privileges option.


And what can I do about it?


Look for one or more members with the blue P badge next to their email address (in the Members list) and go set them to Use Group Moderation Setting.

Unfortunately you can't sort the Members list by their Posting Privileges, but if you have a lot of members it might be worth downloading the list and sorting it in Excel or a similar program.

Shal


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Re: Subgroup Direct Add

 

Beth,


I just added a new member with Direct Add and checked 2 subgroups at the same time.? ...? But I'm getting 3 Welcome emails.? So the new member received a total of 4 emails.? I don't think that I can just turn off the subgroup welcome message in case someone is only added to a subgroup.?

I've learned to deactivate the welcome notice(s) immediately before using Direct Add, as I've crafted the Direct Add inclusion to say what I want to say for those people. My normal Welcome notice (which I must remember to re-activate after the Direct Add) is worded appropriately for people who join the group on their own. Fortunately, in my case, even though I do have co-owners I'm the only one who would use Direct Add or Invite in those groups, so there's less chance of crossed wires.

That's a bit of a pain but I haven't written a coherent suggestion for it yet. Maybe instead of a single Active checkbox we need subordinate checkboxes for Exclude Direct Add and Exclude Invite, since both of those have their own notices.

Or maybe the positive construction: Active for Direct Add, Active for Invite, and Active for Join / Subscribe as three independent checkboxes, allowing the moderator to craft the message for each circumstance if desired.

I haven't really thought this through, so other suggestions or comments are welcome.

Shal


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Posts passing without being approved

 

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I set my group on ¡°moderated¡± in ¡°Spam Control¡± temporarily, meaning that posts need approval before being sent to the group. The problem is that this doesn?t work perfectly. There is always a post or two going through without being approved.

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How can this happen? And what can I do about it?

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Victoria


Re: Subgroup Direct Add

 

Thanks Shal,
I'll go email support.

Another situation with subgroups and emails:
I just added a new member with Direct Add and checked 2 subgroups at the same time.? I just received received 1 "you have been added" email that lists the main group plus the 2 subgroups which is great.? But I'm getting 3 Welcome emails.? So the new member received a total of 4 emails.? I don't think that I can just turn off the subgroup welcome message in case someone is only added to a subgroup.? Should have I expected those?
Thanks
Beth


Re: Subgroup Direct Add

 

Beth,


I'm in the subgroup trying to add a member that is already in main, and the add email isn't including the member notice.? I just figured out how to add from the main /members/choose one, and I received the same email - no customization which makes the member notice for direct add useless.? I wasn't not sure if it is a bug or if I misunderstood what the member notice was supposed to do.

Sounds like a bug to me. I think the subgroup's active Direct Add notice should be included in the You have been added notice in those cases.

Shal


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Re: Email Address showing

 

On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 11:11 AM, <aloopyletter@...> wrote:
I use the same email address in all my other groups on GIO but no problem there.? ?It's just the group I own.
If your email client is saving copies of messages that you've sent it won't show up there. Only those messages that go through the groups.io server and are subsequently returned to you will display the DMARC addressing.

Hope this helps,
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Re: Removed because of spam report

 

On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 05:16 PM, Don Clark wrote:
What does the "unsubbed" person have to do after they go to the automatically generated link?
All you have to do is click on the link, and you are immediately resubscribed. You are NOT forced to also click on any confirmation buttons or anything like that.

I don't have any subgroups, but the question of how this works in that scenario intrigued me. So for the past hour or so I've been using Shalstest and one of its subgroups as a test platform. I sent a message to the subgroup and -- once it arrived in my inbox -- moved my own message to my spam folder. I was immediately unsubscribed from the subgroup, and groups.io sent me the canned notification email. Clicking on the "resume subscription" link in that email renewed my subscription to the subgroup, as expected.

At no point was I ever removed from the main group. However, I was mildly surprised to find that the link in the email did not take me to a subgroup page. Instead, I was shown the main group home page.

Having done that, I tried to do the same thing with the main group, but for some reason this time my ISP's FBL mechanism was not activated, and I was not unsubbed. What I *suspect* that would do is unsub you from the main group and all associated subgroups, as membership in the main group is a requirement for a subscription to any subgroup. I also suspect that the "resume subscription" link in the email would only renew your subscription to the main group, and any subgroup subscription(s) would have to be renewed manually afterward.

I would be interested to know if any others have experience that would confirm or refute my hypothesis.
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Hope this helps,
Bruce

P.S. These kinds of things have convinced me that subgroups are a very good way to complicate your life.
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Re: Subgroup Direct Add

 

Thanks Shal,
I'm in the subgroup trying to add a member that is already in main, and the add email isn't including the member notice.? I just figured out how to add from the main /members/choose one, and I received the same email - no customization which makes the member notice for direct add useless.? I wasn't not sure if it is a bug or if I misunderstood what the member notice was supposed to do. I'm totally in favor of consolidation and would love to remove more emails, but if we have to send these it would be nice to be able to say something special.

Thanks
Beth


Re: HOW DO WE add identifying information about the sender in messages sent as text messages to cell phone email addresses?

 

The Text msg client will typically have a way to show details/info of the message and that is probably where you can find the email address of the sender.
[in Messages on Android, long press -> Info pops up a Message Details window that shows the email address of the sender.]
A screen shot of the text msg display would be helpful as I imagine all of them show something to identify the sender.
Groups.io is an email based messaging system so if you choose to have those messages sent to an email-to-sms gateway, you'll get what the gateway sends you and have to view it with a text msg app.
For more information on the mapping of fields from smtp email to SMS/MMS messages, see??(the gateway is supposed to follow this spec but who knows what the many gateways actually do...)
Toby


Re: Email Address showing

 

Loopy,


This just started a few days ago.? I use the same email address in all my other groups on GIO but no problem there.? ?It's just the group I own.

I can't think of any reason why this would depend on your ownership of the group. I suspect there's some other distinction between the cases that we're missing.
Shal


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Re: Subgroup Direct Add

 

Beth,


In the subgroup I have added an active member notice with the type of Direct Add, but it isn't being included in the email.? What step did I miss?

You likely haven't missed anything.

made to consolidate things so that a Direct Add in the primary group, with subgroups included in the checkboxes, produces only a single You have been added notice probably accounts for this.

I haven't tried checking to see if the subgroup's Direct Add notice is used in any other circumstance, such as when using the checkboxes in the subgroup's Direct Add page, or in the primary group's Subgroups page.

See also if you hadn't.

Shal


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Re: Removed because of spam report

 

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As banning a member is a different "group" function using the term in incorrect circumstances is likely to cause confusion rather than anything else.

Of course, Chris, but within the context and topic I think it was well understood.

Victoria

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Re: Removed because of spam report

 

On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 04:53 PM, Victoria wrote:
but I suppose the link refers to the group which the person is banned from.
Please choose your words more carefully. No - one is "banned" because they or their Mail Service Provider returned a Spam Report. They are Unsubscribed.

As banning a member is a different "group" function using the term in incorrect circumstances is likely to cause confusion rather than anything else.

Chris