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Re: User deleting own post

 

Ellen
Im just doing that.

On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 12:36 PM, Ellen <ellen@...> wrote:
Couldn¡¯t you just copy the msg in that case and post it in a file with his name on it?
Ellen

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Re: User deleting own post

 

Jonathon.
I didnt noted it. Thanks to point me to details.
The list is quite calm but I would like to get something in hand in case of bad behavior in the list or if someone scale a dispute in Justice.?
If a judge ask I will need to deliver the data(its a supposition but can happen).
Kleibe

On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 12:30 PM, toki <toki.kantoor@...> wrote:
On 05/07/18 01:59 PM, Kleibe J wrote:
>him in this aspect BUT I want, as moderator, to keep the messages...
If the individual lives in Europe, you don't have that option. If they
want the data deleted, comply or be fined a fairly significant amount -
the greater of E10,000,000 or 10% of gross worldwide revenue.

After 1 January 2020, if your user lives in California, and assuming
that Google,FaceBook, and the like haven't bribed the state legislature
into abolishing it, you won't have that option. However, statutory
damages are only US$7,500 per occurrence.

jonathon





Re: User deleting own post

Ellen
 

Couldn¡¯t you just copy the msg in that case and post it in a file with his name on it?
Ellen
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From: Kleibe J
Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2018 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: [GMF] User deleting own post
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Just to keep you updated.
I have talked to the user. He cited some reasons. He cited that could reduce his footprint on the web. I agree with him in this aspect BUT I want, as moderator, to keep the messages...
If exist that option would be nice.
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Thank you!
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Re: User deleting own post

 

On 05/07/18 05:06 AM, Shal Farley wrote:

There is no ability to prevent a member from deleting their own content
(posts, files, photos, etc.) - except gentle persuasion. That's by design.
Does Groups.IO honour x-no-archive headers?

jonathon


Re: User deleting own post

 

On 05/07/18 01:59 PM, Kleibe J wrote:
him in this aspect BUT I want, as moderator, to keep the messages...
If the individual lives in Europe, you don't have that option. If they
want the data deleted, comply or be fined a fairly significant amount -
the greater of E10,000,000 or 10% of gross worldwide revenue.

After 1 January 2020, if your user lives in California, and assuming
that Google,FaceBook, and the like haven't bribed the state legislature
into abolishing it, you won't have that option. However, statutory
damages are only US$7,500 per occurrence.

jonathon


Re: Message Time Zones #timezone

 

OK it's now on beta, but under a new heading.

Thanks,

Chris


Re: Automatic Unsubscribes?

 

<<In Premium groups, there is an option to look at Past Members. You can sort that list by the Reason field to get all the "SPAM left" folks and with some cut-and-paste (perhaps into a spreadsheet) prepare a list that way. >>

Bruce, even with the free version, I can easily narrow down all the people unsubbed by going to Activity - Member Activity - Action = Removed because of Spam Report.? Was trying, however, NOT to do this manually (copying and pasting 2 pages of email addresses).? I may pose this on the beta forum - some way to maybe export those email addresses in some easy way, so we can send a group email using our private email address, notifying them they've been auto unsubbed.? Hoping the # of folks being auto unsubbed slows down, and that this is just a phenomena of inactive, transferred members just deciding they don't want to be a list member, and (foolishly) marking our emails as Spam.

Patty Sliney



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Re: User deleting own post

 

Gerald
He is an ordinary member.
Bruce:
Good suggestion. I will try and report it here.
Robert:
I agree with you partialy. I will change the requirements to join the group and see what is happen. By other side if a person join a list I believe that all messages could be archieved for n purposes. At least as an history. My list migrated from Yahoo and was created in 2000.?

On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 10:59 AM, Kleibe J <kleibe@...> wrote:

Just to keep you updated.
I have talked to the user. He cited some reasons. He cited that could reduce his footprint on the web. I agree with him in this aspect BUT I want, as moderator, to keep the messages...
If exist that option would be nice.?
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Thank you!

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Desirable member subscription preferences

 

? Ability to set ¡®newest first¡¯ as a default for topic and message list interfaces.?

? Ability to set default sort method for photos and albums.?

? Ability to sort attached files and albums by member name?(I think Jack posted it 5, or was it 10 years ago but don¡¯t recall what he titled the album.)

? Emailed pix might be changed to Attached pix?(because they can also be added via poring thru the website UI.)?

? Ability to set a streamlined topic and message list (see any Simple Machines forum website if you¡¯re not sure what I mean.)

? Ability of the digest emails, when clicking the hotline of the topic or reply, to take you there in the email, rather than automatically opening up the website user interface.?

Ken K


Re: User deleting own post

 

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They can only delete their posts from the messages.
Their post went through the group?via email LOL?
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Date: 7/4/2018 11:57:14 PM
Subject: Re: [GMF] User deleting own post
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On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 08:09 pm, Kleibe J wrote:
This is already set. But the member still can delete his own post.
Okay, that's news to me. Hopefully someone else can help.

Bruce?
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Re: Error message at retrying yahoo transfer #transfer #yahoo #issue

 

On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 05:31 am, Heijo Alting wrote:
A couple of weeks ago I aborted my first attempt to move a yahoogroup to io because nothing seemed to happen.
I overlooked this part on first read. In addition to leaving off domain information when designating the Y!G name, you may also have to delete the pending request.?

Go to?/yahootransfer?, scroll to the bottom, and select the group name from the In Process menu. If present, there should be a button at the bottom of the resulting page to delete the pending request, at which point you are ready to start over.

Bruce
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Re: User deleting own post

 

Just to keep you updated.
I have talked to the user. He cited some reasons. He cited that could reduce his footprint on the web. I agree with him in this aspect BUT I want, as moderator, to keep the messages...
If exist that option would be nice.?
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Thank you!

On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 10:00 AM, Patty Fletcher <patty.volunteer1@...> wrote:

I personally would tell that user either knock it off or be removed.

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Re: Automatic Unsubscribes?

 

<<(Yahoo Groups gave mods that option, to send via the group email
address, or your personal email address).
Groups.io does too. I don't have a Premium group to test with, but one could probably generate the message you're after to those in the "prior" members list (whatever it is called). Except for the resume link - that would be a new feature.>>


Shal, that I know, on an individual message.? What I would like to do, is send a group message to all unsubbed people at once, using my own email address.? However, if ISP's can still detect that the origin is really coming from groups.io, and no my email service, then that feature is basically worthless.? Really, the only way we could reach those unsubbed list members reliably then, is to email them each, individually, from our own email program.? So, that's not going to happen.? We'll just have to rely on those unsubbed members to figure out they are unsubbed, and either reapply, or hopefully find the auto reinstate email, and click on the link provided (which is very unlikely, as it's probably landed in the Spam/Junk folder since the person has now marked groups.io emails as spam.)?

Not sure I like this feature because it makes for a lot of work for list mods to try to re-capture those list members.? You would think you'd know you were unsubbed, but I? have 2 pages of list members who were unsubbed, and no one has asked the list mods, "what happened to me?"? Maybe it's due to a large number of transferred list members who were basically inactive prior to the transfer, and now are not understanding why they were receiving these new groups.io messages?? Not sure, just speculating at this point.? But, it is a bit concerning for me that I have so many unsubbed list members in such a short time period.?

Patty Sliney



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Re: User deleting own post

 

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On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 08:09 pm, Kleibe J wrote:

This is already set. But the member still can delete his own post.

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IMHO, the creative right of a post should still remain with the author. The author should be able to self correct, or delete, their post.

Bob

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Re: User deleting own post

 

On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 06:02 am, Kleibe J wrote:
I would like the option to block deleting own post existed...
It sounds like this subscriber wants his emails to go out to the list but wants no permanent record of it. We have had a few group owners here suggest this same behavior as a group setting; in that all message delivery would be by email with no online reading of the archive available.

Perhaps if your group archives were private (available to subscribers only) he would be more compliant?

I'll try to figure out how to live with it. lol
I'd kindly remind him that you establish the group rules and you will use your moderator role to enforce them if necessary.

Hope this helps,
Bruce?
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Re: Error message at retrying yahoo transfer #transfer #yahoo #issue

 

On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 05:31 am, Heijo Alting wrote:
The error message on entering the yahoogroup name (a valid name of an existing group) was:That is not a valid Yahoo Group.
Enter just the group name, not the domain information.?See?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/8697

Hope this helps,
Bruce?
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Re: Sending Nofications and email from a Main Group to Subgroups

Patty Fletcher
 

I think they want to send a notification to all groups at once.
Since you wouldn't reach the sub group by emailing just the main group it seems to me you'd have to include all addresses to send out that notification.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Barb M
Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2018 9:16 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] Sending Nofications and email from a Main Group to Subgroups

On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 07:42 pm, <jroberts1@...> wrote:

Is there a way to where you are in a main group and you have say three
sub groups and you want to notify or email from to all four from your main group?
Since a person must be in the Main group to be in a subgroup, it seems that just emailing the main group would include all 4 (the main and the 3 subs).

If you just want to email a couple of subgroups (not the main group), assuming that YOU are a member of the subgroups, you can address an email with both addresses - just like you were sending to 2 different people.

Or maybe I am misunderstanding the question.

Barb


Re: User deleting own post

Gerald Boutin
 

On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 10:04 pm, Gerald Boutin wrote:
On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 08:09 pm, Kleibe J wrote:
Bruce
Thank you. This is already set. But the member still can delete his own post.
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This member post on the list. After while he deletes his post. I dont understand why his behavior but I want to not allow this to happen. I want to keep all messages there.
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Kleibe
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Kleibe,

If the user has Owner or Moderator privileges they may still be able to delete messages even if this setting is set. The setting is for ordinary members.
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Gerald
Kliebe,

I stand corrected.

I did some more testing to actually verify this and I confirm that even if editing messages for ordinary members is disabled, the option to delete posts is still available to the member that made the post.
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Gerald


Re: Automatic Unsubscribes?

 

On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 09:57 pm, Patty Sliney wrote:
If we had the ability to send a group email to all unsubbed list members and use our private email address, versus the group email address (Yahoo Groups gave mods that option, to send via the group email address, or your personal email address).? That way, again, the message would have a much better chance of landing in their Inbox folder.? Just a thought.?
In Premium groups, there is an option to look at Past Members. You can sort that list by the Reason field to get all the "SPAM left" folks and with some cut-and-paste (perhaps into a spreadsheet) prepare a list that way.?

You can't use the GIO interface to message them as you can for active members, although as Shal mentioned it may be preferable to avoid doing that anyway. I do have a special notice on this topic prepared and it is somewhat frustrating to have to wait for folks to resub before I can send it.

Hope this helps,
Bruce?
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Re: Sending Nofications and email from a Main Group to Subgroups

 

On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 07:42 pm, <jroberts1@...> wrote:

Is there a way to where you are in a main group and you have say three sub
groups and you want to notify or email from to all four from your main group?
Since a person must be in the Main group to be in a subgroup, it seems that just emailing the main group would include all 4 (the main and the 3 subs).

If you just want to email a couple of subgroups (not the main group), assuming that YOU are a member of the subgroups, you can address an email with both addresses - just like you were sending to 2 different people.

Or maybe I am misunderstanding the question.

Barb