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Re: photo albums

 

Anita -- I edited my own member record in my group and changed my Display Name to a couple of spaces. As a result, my ownership information automagically disappeared from the display of my two Photo Albums.

If I didn't put in any spaces and left it entirely blank it displayed my email address instead.

Not sure if this is the perfect solution to your problem but it does work.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
Re: photo albums

 

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Bruce I didn't request this and really see no reason for it.
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It has the members name and then my name under it which I don't like or feel necessary.
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So wish there would be a setting where you can undo this.
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Anita

Re: Groups.io site updates #changelog

 

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 10:03 am, Gerald Boutin wrote:
Now, (wish, wish) if we only had the ability to edit the owner for photo albums.
That would be convenient for you and Anita.

The Yahoo group transfer process was not successful at bringing over folder owner names.
Ownership was retained on the albums I had transferred. Did you do something special, like transfer/subscribe your members later?

Bruce
Re: photo albums

 

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 12:42 pm, Anita L wrote:
Is there a way to take my name off the albums of all of the members?
Displaying album ownership is a new feature that I requested. See?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/6525

You could rename the folders so the member's name is also displayed. I don't know of a way to remove your name as the owner.

Bruce
Re: Is there a way to move posts from one topic to another? #moderation

J_Catlady
 

One weirdness (which I hesitate to call a bug, although I've considered emailing Mark about it) is that when you reply via the web to a thread with a changed subject, either by splitting or some other means, the original title appears at the top of your reply. The more I think about this, the more I think it's a bug. But I haven't thought it through 100% yet. It is certainly annoying and disconcerting.
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Re: Groups.io icon - SVG format -- is there one?

Gerald Boutin
 

My suggestion of using an online image conversion site turned out to be a very poor idea. It appears that most, if not all, of the online sites use the same CAD program that embeds a watermark into the resultant image. A sort of ransomware, I guess.

Perhaps an svg file isn't really necessary and the png file (?/img/org.1/mainlogo.png?) would be sufficient.

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On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 12:11 pm, Shal Farley wrote:
Marla,

> ... the Groups.io envelope icon. Is there an SVG of this available?

The logo originated in a contest at 99designs. Clicking through to their
site I don't see any ability for us (the public) to download the image
in any form. Which makes sense, only the owner of the image should have
that ability.


It seems likely to me that only Mark has access to any quality better
than what you find on the site's pages.

Shal


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Re: Is there a way to move posts from one topic to another? #moderation

J_Catlady
 

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 12:48 pm, Duane wrote:
One of my groups is for technical help.? We sometimes edit posts to correct errors,
I do the same in my group, which is for a cat disease. We don't want to leave incorrect, and possibly dangerous, advice onlist.
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Re: Is there a way to move posts from one topic to another? #moderation

 

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 12:43 pm, Don wrote:
Why would editing a past post be helpful?

One of my groups is for technical help.? We sometimes edit posts to correct errors, such as a part number, so that someone searching later doesn't find bad information that leads them on a wild goose chase.? I believe that's the most common type of usage.

Duane
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Re: Is there a way to move posts from one topic to another? #moderation

 

Rick,

Having said all that, the way the WEB site can and does change the old
messages dynamically and in real-time (like adding your picture to ALL
messages later, in hindsight,) is very cool...
Notably that example is a change to the metadata about the message, not a change to the message content itself.

Message content changes only through explicit edits to the content. Either by the posting member him/herself (if allowed by the group) or by a moderator.

And when a post has been edited, it gains an Edited badge next to its posting date. Clicking that badge takes you to a list of revisions. As J said, prior revisions must be explicitly deleted else they stay there and one can use the compare function to see what was changed.
For example: /g/GroupManagersForum/message/6474

Shal
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Re: Is there a way to move posts from one topic to another? #moderation

 

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Why would editing a past post be helpful?...If that¡¯s what¡¯s been talked about.

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Subject: Re: [GMF] Is there a way to move posts from one topic to another? #moderation

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I've done the multiple memberships with different permissions for Years. (At Y!)

Moving on... (About editing.)
In 1989, FDR (First Data Resources) a major Credit Card Processor experimented
with allowing merchants to edit transactions "after the fact" but before their batch closings
were sent -- generally at close of business for the day.
It created chaos and confusion (mistakes happened before or after) and allowed fraud.
Nothing was trackable.

QuickBooks (by Intuit) allowed similar edits 'Company File wide' (which is reasonable)
but allowed the audit trail file to be turned off. (So no record of who did what or when.)
It is unlikely they did CC merchant accounts at that time so that is unrelated.
(I was an Online-Banking Beta Tester, Nebula ver5 all the way to last build 93. 1996)
(I'm in EasterEgg.)

Getting back to how this relates to Group actions:
Allowing edits with no re-sends is a slippery slope. (The above samples are very condensed.)
I like the warning normal Group members get that re-sends are going to be done and to
not abuse that feature. (And how the WEB archives auto deletes the original message.)

Having said all that, the way the WEB site can and does change the old messages
dynamically and in real-time (like adding your picture to ALL messages later, in hindsight,)
is very cool...

Rick

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photo albums

 

I see now under the photo albums I have a name for every member and then my name appears under every one of them. I am the only one who puts photos in the albums.
My members dont know how to do it and I do it for all of them. Is there a way to take my name off the albums of all of the members? I really dont like this feature for my group.

Anita
Re: Is there a way to move posts from one topic to another? #moderation

 

Bruce,

... (except this one, where editing is disabled anyway).
No, it isn't. Perhaps you're thinking of beta?

Shal


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Re: Is there a way to move posts from one topic to another? #moderation

 

Paul,

Could not the 'split', then 'merged' (i.e., merged) topic keep the
same name (or mostly the same name) but be distinguished from the
orignal topic by using a hashtag on the original topic to set it a
part from the moved message that was split off?
In the scenario I was describing the misplaced message already had the wrong subject, which is (in part) why it was misplaced from correct topic. In that case the temporary subject I give it when splitting it (if that's necessary) doesn't really matter because no email will be sent with that particular subject. Then when I merge it into the correct topic the temporary subject will disappear altogether from the Messages list.

Shal


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Re: Groups.io icon - SVG format -- is there one?

 

Marla,

... the Groups.io envelope icon. Is there an SVG of this available?
The logo originated in a contest at 99designs. Clicking through to their site I don't see any ability for us (the public) to download the image in any form. Which makes sense, only the owner of the image should have that ability.


It seems likely to me that only Mark has access to any quality better than what you find on the site's pages.

Shal


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Tansfer complete without calendar #calendar

Southenders Admin
 

So I have now completed my members' transfer. But I just discovered that calendar events are not transferred.?

Any ideas about best practices to get them from Yahoo?
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Re: Is there a way to move posts from one topic to another? #moderation

J_Catlady
 

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 10:03 am, RickGlaz wrote:
I like the warning normal Group members get that re-sends are going to be done and to
not abuse that feature. (And how the WEB archives auto deletes the original message.)
I'm not 100% sure what you mean by that, but although the original message is replaced in the display with the edited message, the original message is actually not auto-deleted. If you want to wipe out the original message, you have to go into the edit history and explicitly delete the original. (The ability for the moderator to delete it was a hard-won battle in beta around a year ago.)
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Re: Groups.io site updates #changelog

 

On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 04:48 pm, Shal Farley wrote:
Hopefully this will help reduce the overall confusion. See also:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Removed-for-spam
I am stuck at the moment because I am still waiting for a copy of the new message to members who find themselves cast into the outer darkness; until I get it I cannot add it to the work-in-progress wiki. (No; I haven't simply forgotten about it!) Mark may not have seen the post I put in beta that followed his original announcement of the change, and I am hopeful that the message I sent to "support" might prove fruitful. It was sent a couple of days ago and I know that for perfectly valid reasons the turnaround time there is a bit long.

From various other threads / posts on this and the betagroup forum "messages to prospective / actual members" and "interrnal processes" are something of a black hole to moderators, which is a pity. IMHO an awful lot of of the queries that arise could be prevented if the Help section had more information in it. I know that is easy to say, but that doesn't stop it being true.

Regards,

Chris
Re: Groups.io site updates #changelog

Gerald Boutin
 

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 07:03 am, Bruce Bowman wrote:
On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 04:48 pm, Shal Farley wrote:
NEW: Display the name of the owner of each photo album.
I requested this recently in beta...all appreciation to Mark!

It will come in handy for cleaning out photo albums owned by those who subsequently leave the group.

Bruce
Now, (wish, wish) if we only had the ability to edit the owner for photo albums. The Yahoo group transfer process was not successful at bringing over folder owner names. I can't see any settings that would pertain to this. Perhaps some default permission for Group Owner/Moderator to change the ownership of the folder.
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Re: Is there a way to move posts from one topic to another? #moderation

RickGlaz
 

I've done the multiple memberships with different permissions for Years. (At Y!)

Moving on... (About editing.)
In 1989, FDR (First Data Resources) a major Credit Card Processor experimented
with allowing merchants to edit transactions "after the fact" but before their batch closings
were sent -- generally at close of business for the day.
It created chaos and confusion (mistakes happened before or after) and allowed fraud.
Nothing was trackable.

QuickBooks (by Intuit) allowed similar edits 'Company File wide' (which is reasonable)
but allowed the audit trail file to be turned off. (So no record of who did what or when.)
It is unlikely they did CC merchant accounts at that time so that is unrelated.
(I was an Online-Banking Beta Tester, Nebula ver5 all the way to last build 93. 1996)
(I'm in EasterEgg.)

Getting back to how this relates to Group actions:
Allowing edits with no re-sends is a slippery slope. (The above samples are very condensed.)
I like the warning normal Group members get that re-sends are going to be done and to
not abuse that feature. (And how the WEB archives auto deletes the original message.)

Having said all that, the way the WEB site can and does change the old messages
dynamically and in real-time (like adding your picture to ALL messages later, in hindsight,)
is very cool...

Rick

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Re: Groups.io site updates #changelog

 

On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 04:48 pm, Shal Farley wrote:
NEW: For enterprise groups, add a link back to Groups.io under the
account dropdown in the upper right.
I was very happy to see this change...it makes switching between my enterprise groups and my regular groups much easier

Linda Perry
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