Jonathan,

It looks like I can set them to the New User Moderated state. Would
this mean that they would then be unmoderated again once they had
posted the requisite number of approved messages as with any new
subscriber?

Yes, that is correct.

For this purpose "new" means that they have the "Override: new user moderated" setting in for their Posting Privilege, and you can manually make that setting in their subscription to cause the count of approvals to apply.

Specifically, when their count of approvals is reached, their Posting Privilege will be automatically changed to "Default group policy" - which effectively unmoderates them if the group's "Moderated" option is unchecked.

That might be a good way to handle them. If they don't post anything,
no harm done, if they do and all is well then they become unmoderated
again.

I concur.

After transferring one of my Yahoo Groups here I went through and changed any members that had transferred as "Override: moderated" to "Override: new user moderated", and that has been working as expected. The few of them who've posted enough since the transfer are now unmoderated (i.e. "Default group policy").

This would have been less effort if there were a "Bulk" way to make settings changes. One can visually scan for them on each page of the Members list, checkmark them, and then use the Actions menu to do more than one at a time. But that's still more tedious than pasting a list of addresses selected in Excel, or being able to sort the list by privilege.

Shal

Arno,

When eMailing for the transfer, one can chose not to have the group
messages transferred.

Can the member list be transferred now and the messages in, say, 3 - 4
monthe time?

I don't see why not, technically. It would be up to Mark to do that for you or not. You'd have to let the transfer agent know when you request the transfer.

One potential issue would be having the messages posted in the Groups.io group (if you allow any) end up before or intermingled with the transferred messages.

That is, I think the "Date" order of transferred messages in the group's archives is effectively the date that the message was added to the archive, not the date it might have originally been posted in the Yahoo Group. Or said another way, it is really Message Number order.

Shal

On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 05:51 am, Ruth Levi wrote:

any way to put this in the suggestion box for a possible tweak?

To make suggestions, you need to post them on the beta group where Mark will see them.? This could likely be incorporated with the TODO item of quoting when a moderator replies to a member question via the owner address.

Duane

Jeff,

I own two groups.io that are part of the same organization -
essentially different department. How would I go about merging the
two?

I think that's something you'd have to ask [email protected] to help you with. At least you would if you want to preserve the Messages and other content of both groups.

Would you want to merge them together into the same group, or perhaps convert them both into subgroups of a primary group for the organization as a whole?

If you use subgroups all the members of both subgroups would perforce be members of the primary group. This would give you the flexibility to send a message to only one subgroup or the other when appropriate, or to send a message to everyone via the primary group. The downside is the additional complexity of managing three groups instead of one, and potential confusion by the members as to whether they should be posting to just their department or to the organization as a whole.

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I do it through email.?So I can in fact see the message in another window and I can copy paste the offending thing, or make reference to it if I need to.

On Dec 8, 2017, at 4:33 AM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

Jonathan,

I see there is an item on the pull-down menu under Members on the
member list page that allows all Bouncing members to be listed. Is
there some similar method to get a list of all Moderated members?

On Yahoo, I sort by the Date Joined column. That will bring up recent subscribers who are still on moderated status.

Sharon

You can currently download the Members (on the Members page) and the entire message archive (on the Settings page.)? On the TODO list, Mark has an item to be able to break the archives into smaller pieces, but right now it's all or nothing.? The only way to get photos and files is one at a time.? You might want to suggest on beta@ that there be a 'complete download' or 'group backup' option available.

Duane

While in this area of conversation I been wondering if there an interface available to allow someone to back up a groups data, such as members, photos, files, and emails. I have inexpensive software that allows one to do that with Yahoo Groups so I'm wondering if there such an interface available for groups.io.

Thanks

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Thanks. As I'm transferring my lists I find that there are some members who were moderated back in the mists of time. None of them post very often so I had forgotten about them. It looks like I can set them to the New User Moderated state. Would this mean that they would then be unmoderated again once they had posted the requisite number of approved messages as with any new subscriber? That might be a good way to handle them. If they don't post anything, no harm done, if they do and all is well then they become unmoderated again.

Jonathan

that is way cumbersome when modding an average 150 messages a day...any way to put this in the suggestion box for a possible tweak? thanks!

ruthie,

is it possible to see the exact text of the rejected message, while
writing the rejection note?

Not any easy way. Which annoys me too.

I try to remember to copy the member's message before clicking Reject, then paste it into the box. Or else I open another window in my browser to look at it.

Shal

Jonathan,

I see there is an item on the pull-down menu under Members on the
member list page that allows all Bouncing members to be listed. Is
there some similar method to get a list of all Moderated members?

No.

I think it has been suggested that it would be handy to be able to sort by those badges that decorate the member's email address. But that isn't a feature (yet).

You can Download the Members list, copy/paste that into Excel (or similar) and sort/select via any of the fields, one of which is "Post Status(0=Normal,1=Moderated,2=NotAllowed)"

Shal

ruthie,

thanks for the reply. is there a way for the reply to a group message,
whether emailing privately or to the entire group, to have the orig
message in this window? it helps to formulate a complete reply to
reference the person’s reply?

If creating the reply using the Reply link in the Group's messages archive there are two ways. One is, as J mentioned, to select the text you wish to quote before clicking Reply. The other is to click Reply (with no text selected) and then in the composition toolbar click the "Quote Whole Post" button. It looks like a cartoon speech balloon. See this page for more tips:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Message-composition-tips-and-tricks

yes, the new member most definitely got this message:

Thank you for confirming your account. ...

how do i get rid of that? where does that stock message live on my
dashboard?

You don't, and it doesn't. That's one of the system messages that is independent of your group.

when i convert 16k members, i cannot have them all getting
this message. it is not helpful for my crowd.

Users who are transferred from a Yahoo Group don't get that message. But if you don't (before starting the transfer) set up a Welcome message in your group they do get a stock "Welcome" message from the system.

Shal

Ruth,

i have read about member aliases, not sure where to find that setting.

It is in the Login page of your account:
/account

At the bottom, in an expanded for Advanced Settings.

i want to disable that for my 2 groups. is that possible?

Nope. And it really doesn't affect your groups in any case. It is there mainly to provide a work-around for members whose sending address differs from their receiving address. An unusual, but not extinct, case.

both of my groups are moderated. how do i handle the toggle switch for
new user moderation? do i need to toggle it on nevertheless or not?

That depends upon whether you might ever uncheck the "Moderated" option in your group. If you never do, then checking or not the "New Users Moderated" box will have no practical effect.

Members who join your group while "New Users Moderated" is checked will have their subscription Posting Privilege set to a Moderation override. This means that when the group's "Moderated" checkbox is unchecked those members will remain moderated.

the stock messages that are part of the welcome, etc all have the
salutation of “cheers, the groups IO team”…can i change those to my
group name?

Stock messages that are part of your group's Member Notices tab (on the Settings page) you can alter. Some messages come from the system and
are not under your control.

Shal

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Thu, 07 Dec 2017 15:31:38 -0800, "Duane" <txpigeon@...>, wrote:

To quote Mark (the owner of Groups.io) on beta@ on Dec. 4:
"(I'm in the middle of a large Y! Groups migration triggered by the Yahoo meltdown last week, which is keeping me very busy at the moment)"

It would also depend on how well he can access the information at Y!, in addition to all you mentioned.

Duane

Hijacking but still Transfer.

When eMailing for the transfer, one can chose not to have the group
messages transferred.

Can the member list be transferred now and the messages in, say, 3 - 4
monthe time?

Arno

When replying via email, what you see will depend on your email program or service.

Duane

Hello all,

I own two groups.io that are part of the same organization - essentially different department. How would I go about merging the two?