The problem is that this group is the de facto goto for help, and there¡¯s really no other option for someone who (like me) strongly objects to and, like Stan, feels insulted by indefinite moderation. Mark will no longer answer help-type questions on beta, instead directing people here (or the mostly inactive ¡®groups help¡¯ group). ?
Your ?argument holds water (¡®if you don¡¯t like it, go elsewhere¡¯)if there is somewhere else to go - the equivalent of consumer choice. But in this case, there really is none. It¡¯s a monopoly lol.?
No matter how upright a citizen of this group has been, for no matter how many years, and no matter how much help they¡¯ve provided to others here, they still have to suffer the delays, indignities, and inconveniences of asynchronous communication because every post here must be approved.
I cannot understand, not will I ever be able to understand, why this group does not take advantage of the incredibly convenient and brilliant NuM feature. Shal himself may even have been a party to its original design (I no longer remember). I believe it would make life in this group more pleasant and more convenient for all concerned, including the moderators. My group uses it and it works wonderfully. In the odd case that an established member steps out of line, you can put them back on NuM again.
J
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On Feb 18, 2018, at 3:01 PM, Bob Bellizzi <
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Dear Stan,
I think that the term "owner" identifies who sets the rules for a group because they are responsible to for the group and it's actions.
Some groups ( ours included) have a focused purpose and are operated as a benefit to the members as a public service and we fit in that category.
Accordingly, we have very well defined rules for the use of the group, what may be posted and even in certain cases, what may be said.
The rules are set up? to protect the mission of the group.? They are not completely set in stone but do change when necessary.
Each prospective member must formally agree to our rules and by so agreeing, is subject to them.
If the rules change all members are informed and they have two options; to implicitly agree with the new rules or to unsubscribe meaning that if they abrogate the new rules they are warned privately and if they persist in their mode of operation are removed from the group permanently.
Our mission to help others is very important, not only to us but also to many who don't yet know of their need.
We take our duty to protect members' information seriously and rules are necessary to that properly perform that duty.
Our group has not been invaded in about 20 years.
We moderate all new members till they complete their 4th? posting at which time automatically removes them from moderation.
Our rules contain procedures for complaints by other members, and have other rules of conduct included.
Members seldom need more than one reminder to calm down or to apologize for violating our rules.
Shal owns GMF and as owner, sets the? rules.
I feel that if one doesn't like the rules, one finds another place more amenable to their mode of operation.
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Bob Bellizzi
The Corneal Dystrophy Foundation
