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Locked Re: Caution, if your group has only 1 owner

 

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The continuing failure of logic on this subject is based upon absolutist thinking.

I believe the majority of group owners agree there should be a designation of succession. ?It should be for the existing owner and/or members how that should occur. ?All that is needed is agreement from as to the formalities of implementation. ?That requires discussion among open minds.?

I believe this should be a new specific ¡°change of owner¡± option within , no different than the other present options. ?Those not in favor can simply ignore it without denying others said option.

Group founder/owners are those logically responsible for whether or not there is a ¡°succession plan¡± in place. ?There may be NO person/persons deemed qualified and interested in accepting group ownership responsibility immediately TODAY. ?

This is why more than a few groups have only one owner¡­not because they WANT it that way, but because they see more potential problems with currently available options. ?That¡¯s why they refuse to adopt options they see as inappropriate or inapplicable. ?That¡¯s what ¡°needs fixing¡±.

Successful and predictable management succession is complex and subject to oversimplification. ?It is those who want a quick and easy ¡°solution¡± that believe no problem exists. ?That¡¯s simply not true.

Any succession ultimately made without prior Owner input based on history/experience is less likely to succeed in the long term. ?Whenever a group¡¯s owner dies or is incapacitated, it expires and its history is forever lost. THAT is our problem re-stated.

Group founder/owner(s) should have option to designate one or more potential successors to become ¡°Group Owner¡± upon prior owner¡¯s death or incapacitation. ?They should also have the option to designate another person or procedure to assure completion of such transfer because the mere passage of time can change circumstances (such as interest or health) such that the logical choice of today may prove unwise or impossible tomorrow. ?

Owner¡¯s death or incapacitation may prompt others to volunteer to ¡°take over¡±. ?There should be a procedure then available (as determined by and acceptable to ) UNLESS the existing Group founder/owner(s) indicates in writing that they WISH the groups to expire upon such occurance. ?This would give hope in the situation described by Bob McGraw.

In some groups there are opposing factions. ?The designated group owner is the person best able to appoint a successor to ¡°carry the flame¡± into the future. If they wish to continue to serve until they cannot, that option cannot be guaranteed today. ?

It isn¡¯t a matter of what¡¯s presently ¡°in the FAC¡±, but what ISN¡¯T. ?That said, I agree "This question has come up over and over.¡± ?

Yes, something should be done about this problem ASAP. ?This is why I advocate that appointment of a single successor owner (as opposed potentially competing multiples) should be a process initiated by immediate need and not attempt to see into the fog of the future with some inflexible legacy.

Sincerely,

William R.. Bayne

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On Feb 18, 2024, at 11:05 AM, Bruce Bowman <bowman46118@...> wrote:

The problem here is that Bob has no official capacity within the group. He isn't even a member. While his claims are likely to be true, there's no way to corroborate that independently. Evidence can be faked, and even "voting the current owner off the island" by polling existing members has its problems. Thus support's hands are tied.?

The group owner owns the group, not the members. He should be able to run it as he sees fit. If he wants it to wither from neglect, that's his right. If when he dies, he wants it to die with him, that's his right, too. He should not be subject to ouster by those who think they know how to do things better, even if it's just from a misunderstanding. If that happens even once, that's once too many.??

This question has come up over and over and that's why it's in the FAQ. If you think it might become a problem, do something about it now. You cannot buy life insurance after you're already dead.

Regards,
Bruce
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