Thanks Shal. The procedure makes sense.
I guessed that moderator and ownership might be inherited by subgroups, but I wanted to be sure.
And I apologize for the sloppy terminology "join list" for the subgroups direct add. I know full well that sloppiness like that makes a hard job harder. What can I say? It was a fuzzy head after a long day is the truth but not an excuse. Best, Marv