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On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 08:59 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote:

The groups all have slightly different memberships, but there is a lot of crossover. We have some groups that are public (can be joined with no approval) and some that need approval (we check that you're a member of our organisation before letting you in)

It sounds like it might be a good idea to have one main group and then make all of our discussion groups subgroups. (It sounds like that's how I should have done it in the first place.)

Brendan -- Perhaps so, if it makes sense for your organizational structure. The biggest "gotcha" is that everyone must become of member of the main group before (or at the same time as) they join a subgroup. This can lead to difficulties with people posting to the "wrong" group by accident and/or managing all the subgroup memberships.

Optimally, you might have subgroups in place for [say] the organization's board of directors, subcommittees, SIGs within the main topic, etc. so that such folks can discuss tangential subjects. Most of the message traffic would occur in the main group.

Not saying that you can't make things work in some other fashion, but this is the way it's all designed. See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/1039#Examples?for some examples.

Why? For one thing, we're considering using Auth0 for single sign-on authentication (under their non-profit plan) and it seems that groups.io would require each group to be on the Enterprise plan to get the integration. That would add up to a LOT of money for our very small organisation.

Agreed that 26 Enterprise groups doesn't make a lot of sense in this context and would be prohibitively expensive.

Also it seems that administration might be easier, for me and for our members.

I have not found this to be the case. If anything, you'll probably find it to be more rigid (and difficult for members to wrap their heads around), when it comes to keeping track of everyone's subscriptions. But perhaps the Auth0 opportunity would override this...I have insufficient experience with it to advise on that.

So, is there a way to move a regular group to become a sub-group of another group? I couldn't find anything in the Owners Manual or help pages.

Normally, no. However, in the past Mark (owner of groups.io) has occasionally intervened to move groups into subgroups, in exchange for appropriate remuneration. Since you're talking about establishing an Enterprise group, I suspect that would provide sufficient motivation for him to help with this.

Try sending an email to [email protected]?and hopefully you'll get some kind of response. Just understand that if you do make this change and decide you don't like it, he's unlikely to help you change it back.

Good luck,
Bruce

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