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Re: Groups.io does not permit these types of groups and content?


 

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Erynn,

I think Ken hit it on the head; I wouldn't worry too much about this, provided your subgroup is genuinely discussing something vs promoting it, and it really does come down to concise rules and their application, to keep folks in line and keep the peace.

You are (kinda) right insofar that (some of) the rules are (somewhat) "vague" but that's by design; there is no practical way one can create an explicit list that accounts for everything that is and is not allowed in such a wildly-diverse universe that GIO is.

Don't forget there's some grey area in terms of the actual usage reality in this universe; e.g., "No Pornography, adult content, or nudity".? I guarantee you there is plenty of "pornography", i.e. adult content, or nudity being shared daily in the form of written or meme jokes, cartoons, attached images/scans of nude playboy centerfolds, nude calendar pics, etc; all one needs is a private group and a closed circle/group of like-minded people.? Or "Groups that share media or content whose distribution would be in violation of copyright law"; pfft, I again guarantee you that there are plenty of groups where folks share scanned copyrighted material, albeit for research or assistance purposes, but sometimes to a degree that's skirting -and in some cases technically breaking- copyright laws.? Model-building and similar groups do this a lot, I belong to a few of those groups and I know!? Or "Groups that are designed strictly to use the Groups.io directory as an advertisement for something other than the group itself", I bet there are groups that are cleverly (and carefully) using the group for advertising and profiting purposes, probably seriously-skirting or even crossing the boundary line, and they haven't been caught yet.

I also suspect that, while Mark more than likely does have some active auditing processes to catch blatantly-obvious violations, something like a specific keyword filter could return a ton of messages and I bet he has better things to do that going through each message to determine if it's a genuine discussion vs a promoting message; I mean a search for the word "qanon" for example in all of GIO's message archives would return a ton of messages, most -if not all- innocent messages that just used the word in some innocent context.? I highly doubt GIO has AI filtering/auditing code like (or to the extend of) FB or Tweeter does, but I could be wrong.

I don't know what the process is when someone reports a group but I'd think that, at the very least, nothing happens to the group itself for now, at the very worst, the group gets locked and hidden temporarily, until Mark looks into the report.? If the report was malicious, i.e. someone did it out of spite or to cause trouble, I'd think the group would be reinstated with no problems, and then it would be up to the mods to unleash their wrath on the person who caused this (unnecessary) trouble.? So like Shal suggested, make the rules (and consequences of not following them) crystal clear to the members.? Then moderate the group and discussion and you'll be fine.

Cheers,
Christos


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