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Re: Suggestions for how to pay for your group #donations


 

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Shal,

I did a five year?projection based on the NEW pricing plan.

In the pricing plan Mark has defined the three list types by member size:

Free (Basic) - 100 members

Premium (Paid) - 400 members

Enterprise (Paid) - 1000 members

You are right, for the first year (2021), my list would be an Enterprise list cloaked as a Basic (Free) list, saving $4400/year by legacy pricing.? If Mark's pricing plan per member reflects

his cost per member to remain viable,? I don't think giving away $22,000 in revenue over five years is sustainable.

I also assumed that there wouldn't be a major price change for three years.? Admittedly this is overly optimistic, as there have been two pricing changes in the last two years.? And that also assumes?

that the pricing changes do not require adjustment (upward) for three years.? Finally I assumed that after three years providing Enterprise size lists with Free service will no longer be sustainable and

that Free lists of Premium size (or larger) will have to be converted to a paid list for groups.io to be sustainable in the near future.

So I presented my list with three basic five year scenarios:

  1. Staying as a Basic list with a forced upgrade to Premium after three years at an annual cost of $1100 a year for $2200 total cost over five years
  2. Upgrading now to Premium at $220/year for a five year annual cost of $1100
  3. Staying as a basic list with a forced upgrade to Enterprise after three years at an annual cost of $4400 per year for $8800 total cost over five years.

My list is choosing #2 at 81% of the votes cast.

I made some?na?ve (not based on inside knowledge) assumptions:

  1. Mark is committed to?a sustainable business model with higher cost lists paying for their service.
  2. That it will take three years before additional pricing changes are made.
  3. That Legacy paid lists will be? upgraded to fee per member pricing AFTER large free lists are asked to upgrade
  4. That the fee per member pricing for a Premium list can be avoided in the next five years by upgrading to Premium before Jan18th.
  5. That Free lists that have grown into the size of a Premium or Enterprise lists will need to become paid lists in the future.

The view five years from now is much different than the view today.? My list members recognize that our list size does not justify continuation as a free list and

they are willing to become a Paid list to sustain the list in the future.? In return image storage can be increased since the space available is sixty times larger than what we have been using.

The Enterprise plan far exceeds are needs as do the costs exceed are ability to pay.? The list would disband it forced to upgrade to Enterprise level.

ken clark


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Re: Suggestions for how to pay for your group
From:?Shal Farley
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 22:08:52 PST


Ken,
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I polled the 1900 members of my free group about the change to fee per member pricing.?

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That group wouldn't be affected by the change, unless you were planning on upgrading to Premium for other reasons. The new pricing structure only applies to groups created or upgraded after Monday the 18th.
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So your least cost, if you are content with the features you have, is to continue as a Basic group with legacy pricing and features.
Shal



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