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Re: arrrggghhhh! I don't get it (just a rant)


 

You're not the only one howling into that wind.
While I attempting transfer of my largest group (almost 1800);
(Transfer requested but no action yet) I have been suggesting
similar moves for nine other groups. A couple are so dormant
that YG could be down for a week and no one would notice.
Four members quit in protest when I told the group I had requested
a files transfer. They lit into me with parting comments about being alarmist,
really aggravated than YG would not let them unsubscribe; after trying
multiple times. YG sent me multiple (upto six) un-subscription notices
for each one. Later I was able to manually remove their memberships.
They blamed me because YG was non-functional, citing my desire to
move the group as the reason for their YG problems.

I have tried to help other groups that I value, in one case setting up
a shadow group in groups.io with the same name. Their reply is that
they have been with YG for 18 years and they will consider moving only when YG
shuts down. They don't seem to realize that will be to late.

Poll the members of your 'other' groups and give them a choice of outcomes.
My groups wanted the database files and photos preserved. Automatic
membership came in second. 25% were willing to ride YG into the dust
until it dies without saving the database. About 15% did not want to take
any action, even planning to develop a group on another host. It's like
watching a ship wreck and blaming the launching of lifeboats for sinking the ship.

I do need to consider how I can move photos and files (where new photos can be added
now that YG's photo function seldom works. If I can move some of those,
then I can tell YG group members that they can start a new in groups.io group.

With some YG list owners and moderators, it's like herding cats.
(I can do that, but the dog is better)


ken

On 2018-01-22 21:36, J_Catlady wrote:
I was trying to help another cats group by suggesting that they move
from yahoo to groups.io [1]. I was sort of trying to sell them on a
"the sky is falling" scenario and they better move soon, because
that's what I've been picking up on lately - that yahoo is getting so
bad that Mark is having problems even doing the transfer, that he
can't keep up with all the transfers, etc. This is one of the best
cats groups and I didn't want to lose them in the downfall of yahoo,
and I was honestly trying to help them.
They more or less jumped down my throat. One accused me of working for
groups.io [1]. The group owner said they'd been in yahoo since 2002
and while there were "a few problems," nothing is perfect, and it
would be better for them to stay. Another said she'd joined a
groups.io [1] group a couple of years ago and was immediately deluged
with spam, but "maybe it's more secure now," she didn't know. A third
said she'd joined "eight groups.io [1] groups" and found them "less
convenient" than yahoo.
It was crazy. I didn't know how to deal with it without sounding even
more like I'm "working for" groups.io [1]. Only a couple of people
said they'd had problems with their messages not posting on yahoo and
they wouldn't mind moving, but overall, the feeling expressed was it
was too risky to move, there are problems "everywhere," etc.
Arggggghhhh!
J
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[2] /g/GroupManagersForum/message/3546
[3] /mt/8682535/357285
[4] /g/GroupManagersForum/post
[5] /g/GroupManagersForum/editsub/357285
[6] /g/GroupManagersForum
[7] /static/tos
[8] /g/GroupManagersForum/leave/defanged

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