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Re: How to move a group with no owner?


 

There was a message from a large tractor group which successfully moved everything using PG4.
Asked for the details and waiting for a reply.? Am interested to know how the porting of messages was accomplished.
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On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 9:07 PM Dale Smith <dalesierra@...> wrote:

Dale,

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I have done this with a group and things are going pretty good as a free account.? In our case, the owner was locked out and couldn't get in, so with his permission, I started a new account.? There were about 27000 messages and about 400mb of photos and 32 mb of files.? We let people on the old group know about the new group and about 100 out of some 600 members on the old group joined up.? That also weeded out the inactive membership as the activity on the list hasn't dropped in the least.?

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The one problem we had was that occasionally someone would send their email to the group to xxx@... instead of "@,"most likely due to either the fact that they hadn't been keeping up with the group and hadn't seen the messages about the new group or they just got the address from their address book. ? Since there was no owner access to the Yahoo group, we couldn't shut down posting.? When that happened, we had a flurry of replys to the old group, none of which were included in our slowly building message archive at , and new members who hadn't been in the old group just didn't get them.? To solve this, I set up a mail filter that moved any messages for that group at Yahoo to a separate mailbox. ? As an owner of the new group, I forwarded them to the new group with a tactful note to not send messages to the Yahoo group.? We haven't had that problem for a while now and it will probably be less frequent now that there is no Yahoo web site from which to send mail.

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I downloaded all the group content using PG Offline.? I then went to the new group and uploaded first the files, which was easy as there weren't that many of them.? Photos were a bit harder, but it took me about an afternoon to load the photos and albums individually.?? Unfortunately you can't upload a whole album at once.? You have to create the album and then upload its contents.?? If you have a larger group, this job can be split up making it less onerous for the individual doing it.

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The final sticking point was the archive of past messages.? While I am still hoping for an easy way to port from PG Offline to Groups.io, I did work out an interim solution.

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I exported the messages to html files by year to keep the size of the HTML files to a reasonable size.? I set 5000 messages as the page size and didn't go over it in any year.?

Since I also do several websites, I created an index page for the HTML pages created by PG Offline and loaded everything in a corner of one of my websites and made it a subdomain that can be directly accessed by a reasonable length url.? One caveat though.? You need to rename the PG Offline file as soon as is created as the next years file will overwrite it.

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I know this won't work for everyone, but aside from the last issue of the message archive should be doable.? For that final step you need someone who can create a web page index and has a place to host it.

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Good luck and if you have any questions feel free to contact me off group.

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Dale Smith


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