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Notice of Pricing Change


 

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Why are they literally springing this overnight fee change on people. They surely knew before this afternoon. I am helping a group with an absentee owner and have to ask Yahoo to make one of us a moderator so we can issue an invite! There is NO time to get that done! We are going to lose our group over this, I¡¯m afraid. Several people offered to donate toward the $110 but we haven¡¯t done anything toward collecting the donations because we wanted to give the owner a chance to respond. If I pay the $110 myself just to get it done, I will lose that money if we can¡¯t send an invite to the transfer agent.?

By Dec. 14 all this craziness of streams of applicants will go away. Yet, the high transfer fee apparently will stay on - I guess to discourage new applicants, especially small groups, from applying. And then, they are going to do what some other sites do - make you pay per member to continue (or so they imply). That is going to sink the other group, where I am one of the owners, ?with 4000 members we just paid $110 to transfer. There are only 2 people in charge - and neither of us can afford to pay for members. Nor are we able to turn this into a pay to play group. We just don¡¯t have the time, energy or know-how to run this like a business. We are volunteers, we spend hours and hours helping members. We also work and have families with caregiving needs. We are stretched thin as it is, without even considering all these payment possibilities to add to the load. Yahoo at least made it possible for us to exist.?

This is going to price ?beyond the means of people who don¡¯t have a lot of money if fees keep on being added as described below. We have about 1300 members in the absentee owner group and no way to know if many of the old members are still reading. From the responses I got from old members in the last few days, I would say yes. So I would be very hesitant to delete memberships if I was able to. Yahoo, with all its problems and glitches, allowed us to exist. Doesn¡¯t anyone care about us? I think this was a snap decision with little thought of the ramifications for the very real people, especially health groups, that it will affect. I hope Mark will reconsider when he has time to really think about the effect on people.

Susan B



?(this is not the group I have been talking about in previous messages).




On Oct 21, 2019, at 6:32 PM, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

Folks -- Here is the notification in full...cross-posted from .

Like everyone, we were taken by surprise when Yahoo announced they will be shutting down Yahoo Groups in just a few short weeks. runs a world-class email groups service and has quickly been recognized as the best migration option for Yahoo Groups users. We are flattered by this recognition, and have been overwhelmed with traffic and group transfer requests as a result. We have spent the days since Yahoo's announcement diligently adding new server capacity and starting to work through an unprecedented number of transfer requests.

Fortunately, has always been built to scale and already has a user base in excess of 1 million users today. In order to accommodate this major growth phase while maintaining our excellent service levels and industry-leading functionality, we will need to adjust our pricing as follows. As of 9AM Pacific Time, October 22:

  1. The annual fee for premium groups is $20/month or $220/year. (Premium groups in existence before that date are grandfathered in at their current fee.)

  2. As is already the case, all transferred groups are required to be premium groups for the first year. The $220 transfer fee counts for the premium fee, so once having paid the transfer fee, transferred groups are exempt from paying the premium fee for the first year.

  3. All new basic (non-premium) groups are required to be premium groups if they have, or acquire, more than 500 members or more than 3 subgroups. (Basic groups in existence before October 22 at 9AM remain unlimited for now; however, next year we will be looking at readjusting our pricing structure and moving away from a flat rate fee and towards a more equitable per-member cost. We will keep you posted about all of this as we work through the process.)

As you know, Yahoo has given us incredibly short deadlines. New content cannot be uploaded to Yahoo Groups after October 28 and all user generated content will be deleted from Yahoo Groups on December 14. To ensure that we have enough time to export all data off of Yahoo, we have set a deadline of midnight, December 1 Pacific Time for all new transfer requests to be received. Assuming that Yahoo doesn¡¯t have any server issues, we believe that we¡¯ll be able to export all data out of Yahoo before they delete all the data. However, in order to maintain a high level of service to our existing customers, we cannot import groups into our service as fast as we can export them out of Yahoo. There may be some delay before we can import all groups. If you wish to have your transfer prioritized, the group transfer page allows you to pay an additional one-time fee of $200 (this will go live at 9AM Pacific Time, October 22).

We welcome the opportunity to elevate the groups email experience for Yahoo users. We are committed to making the migration process as seamless as possible. Thank you for choosing .

Thanks, Mark



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