Received from Duane at 10/27/2018 08:11 PM UTC:
On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 02:31 PM, Jim Higgins wrote:
the logic behind the Gio approach of a 30-day expiration
I think that more than anything, Mark is trying to save folks from themselves.
I keep hearing that, but I can't figure out what - specifically - they are being saved from with a 30-day expiration vs refreshing the cookie on each visit? Can you give a real world example?
There was some discussion on the beta group a year or two ago about renewing the cookie on each visit or extending the time. I don't see anything recent that would lead Mark to believe that there's any discomfort with things the way they are.
Could that failure to see the discomfort be because, as is frequently stated, there's no official Gio presence on GMF... i.e., Mark doesn't read GMF... to see the recurring problem caused by people surfing their way to the Gio site only to find that they can't see any of their groups? What causes that? It's logging in with a different email address than the one used to join/create the groups OR EXPIRATION OF THE LOGIN COOKIE for the email address that was used.
I don't have a problem with it as it is now because my main browser remembers my login credentials, so it's one extra click.
My browser remembers also... and so does everyone else's, until the login cookie, which isn't refreshed upon each site visit, expires after 30 days... (or until they manually log out, or manually login using a different (and incorrect) email address... whichever comes first). You (and I) know what to do... thus you don't see a problem. But keep watching the complaints/questions in GMF and you'll see it's a recurring problem for those less savvy.
And in my case, I visit the site only occasionally... when I need to see if a pending subscriber has confirmed an email address before I approve the subscription. If that visit requires me to log in with a password or request a link to log in it multiplies the time needed to perform that otherwise quick check. It won't kill me, but it's utterly pointless... especially in the eyes of someone fairly newly arrived from Yahoo where this is ONE thing - perhaps the ONLY thing - that Yahoo does better than Gio... and when it's causing problems for Gio subscribers and owners alike to the tune of several complaint threads weekly in GMF.
Jim H
