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Osteoarthritis problems in the hands: how to alleviate them when playing the flute?


 

(versi¨®n en espa?ol al final)

Good morning to all

This group seems to be a bit stalled, let's see if there are still flute players listening.

I am an amateur musician from Spain (original message in Spanish at the end). Let's see if you can help me or give me some ideas.

I have been having problems in my hands for a year now, pain in my fingers and wrists. I have been diagnosed with osteoarthritis in my fingers, which has been getting worse and causes me problems and pain for many things, also when playing the flute.

The finger that is worse is the left index finger, the knuckle joint. Also the right index finger bothers me and the middle finger, but more at the level of the metacarpal joint, although the knuckle also bothers me.

Bending the left index finger at a right angle to press the key is painful and makes my fingering difficult. I have tried to alleviate this by moving my finger away from the key, so that I don't have to bend it so much, using one of those silicone thumb rests. With this, my index finger at metacarpal level rests on the silicone insert and I don't have to bend it so much. I have also used the thumb insert for the right hand.

But this affects the locking of the keys, I don't press the D and E keys with my right hand properly and sometimes it sounds dull or wrong, as if they don't lock properly. In the left hand, I manage to press the B key better, but I end up pressing too much on the index finger and it hurts my metatarsal joint quite a lot.

Thanks in advance for any advice or idea. Regards Fernando


Buenos d¨ªas a todos

Este grupo parece estar un poco parado, vamos a ver si todav¨ªa hay flautistas a la escucha.

Soy un m¨²sico aficionado de Espa?a (mensaje original en espa?ol al final). A ver si me pod¨¦is ayudar o proporcionar algunas ideas.

Llevo un a?o con problemas en las manos, dolores de dedos y mu?ecas. Me han diagnosticado artrosis en los dedos, que ha ido a peor y me provoca problemas y dolores para muchas cosas, tambi¨¦n al tocar la flauta.

El dedo que est¨¢ peor es el ¨ªndice izquierdo, la articulaci¨®n de nudillo. Tambi¨¦n el ¨ªndice derecho me molesta y el coraz¨®n, pero m¨¢s bien a la altura de la articulaci¨®n del metacarpo, si bien tambi¨¦n el nudillo me molesta.

El doblar el ¨ªndice izdo en ¨¢ngulo recto para presionar la llave me resulta doloroso y ello dificulta mi digitaci¨®n. He tratado de paliarlo alejando el dedo de la llave, de forma que no tenga que doblarlo tanto, usando un suplemento de esos de silicona de sujeaci¨®n del pulgar. Con ello mi dedo ¨ªndice a la altura del metacarpo se apoya en el suplemento de silicona y no tengo que doblarlo tanto. Tambi¨¦n he usado el suplemento del pulgar para la mano derecha.

Pero ello afecta al cierre de las llaves, no presiono las llaves del re y mi con la mano derecha de forma adecuada y a veces suena sordo o mal, como si no cerraran bien. En la mano izda, consigo mejor presionar la llave de si, pero acabo presionando demasiado sobre el dedo ¨ªndice y me duele bastante la articulaci¨®n del metatarso.

As¨ª que he tenido que quitar esos suplementos.

Ahora he puesto un suplemento usando cinta de doble cara sobre la llave de s¨ª, de forma que pueda cerrar la llave sin tener que doblar tanto el dedo.

Parece que me va mejor, pero es un tanto chapucero y la cinta resulta pegajosa y demasiado blanda.

No s¨¦ si existe alguna soluci¨®n m¨¢s profesional en silicona o similar que se pueda colocar sobre la llave.

?Alquien ha tenido problemas similares? ?Qu¨¦ soluci¨®n hab¨¦is encontrado?

Soy m¨²sico aficionado, he empezado de mayor, no toco tantas horas al d¨ªa como para tener estos problemas, no acabo de entender que me ocurra esto en un plazo tan corto de tiempo.

Gracias anticipadas por cualquier consejo o idea. Saludos Fernando


 

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Hi Fernando, I am also an amateur flutist, struggling with arthritis in my hands. I am writing just to add some support, I really have no solutions, sadly. I have one crooked finger in each hand, the middle one in each. This finger, especially the right one, has to do a special little maneuver to hit the keys correctly. I have asked a physical therapist about this, and, short of surgery, she had nothing to offer. I do have plugs in my keys which helps! I wish you luck and solutions, which I hope you will share with us ?

My best,
Nancy?



On Apr 5, 2025, at 6:37?AM, Fernando Ariznavarreta via groups.io <fernando@...> wrote:

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(versi¨®n en espa?ol al final)

Good morning to all

This group seems to be a bit stalled, let's see if there are still flute players listening.

I am an amateur musician from Spain (original message in Spanish at the end). Let's see if you can help me or give me some ideas.

I have been having problems in my hands for a year now, pain in my fingers and wrists. I have been diagnosed with osteoarthritis in my fingers, which has been getting worse and causes me problems and pain for many things, also when playing the flute.

The finger that is worse is the left index finger, the knuckle joint. Also the right index finger bothers me and the middle finger, but more at the level of the metacarpal joint, although the knuckle also bothers me.

Bending the left index finger at a right angle to press the key is painful and makes my fingering difficult. I have tried to alleviate this by moving my finger away from the key, so that I don't have to bend it so much, using one of those silicone thumb rests. With this, my index finger at metacarpal level rests on the silicone insert and I don't have to bend it so much. I have also used the thumb insert for the right hand.

But this affects the locking of the keys, I don't press the D and E keys with my right hand properly and sometimes it sounds dull or wrong, as if they don't lock properly. In the left hand, I manage to press the B key better, but I end up pressing too much on the index finger and it hurts my metatarsal joint quite a lot.

Thanks in advance for any advice or idea. Regards Fernando


Buenos d¨ªas a todos

Este grupo parece estar un poco parado, vamos a ver si todav¨ªa hay flautistas a la escucha.

Soy un m¨²sico aficionado de Espa?a (mensaje original en espa?ol al final). A ver si me pod¨¦is ayudar o proporcionar algunas ideas.

Llevo un a?o con problemas en las manos, dolores de dedos y mu?ecas. Me han diagnosticado artrosis en los dedos, que ha ido a peor y me provoca problemas y dolores para muchas cosas, tambi¨¦n al tocar la flauta.

El dedo que est¨¢ peor es el ¨ªndice izquierdo, la articulaci¨®n de nudillo. Tambi¨¦n el ¨ªndice derecho me molesta y el coraz¨®n, pero m¨¢s bien a la altura de la articulaci¨®n del metacarpo, si bien tambi¨¦n el nudillo me molesta.

El doblar el ¨ªndice izdo en ¨¢ngulo recto para presionar la llave me resulta doloroso y ello dificulta mi digitaci¨®n. He tratado de paliarlo alejando el dedo de la llave, de forma que no tenga que doblarlo tanto, usando un suplemento de esos de silicona de sujeaci¨®n del pulgar. Con ello mi dedo ¨ªndice a la altura del metacarpo se apoya en el suplemento de silicona y no tengo que doblarlo tanto. Tambi¨¦n he usado el suplemento del pulgar para la mano derecha.

Pero ello afecta al cierre de las llaves, no presiono las llaves del re y mi con la mano derecha de forma adecuada y a veces suena sordo o mal, como si no cerraran bien. En la mano izda, consigo mejor presionar la llave de si, pero acabo presionando demasiado sobre el dedo ¨ªndice y me duele bastante la articulaci¨®n del metatarso.

As¨ª que he tenido que quitar esos suplementos.

Ahora he puesto un suplemento usando cinta de doble cara sobre la llave de s¨ª, de forma que pueda cerrar la llave sin tener que doblar tanto el dedo.

Parece que me va mejor, pero es un tanto chapucero y la cinta resulta pegajosa y demasiado blanda.

No s¨¦ si existe alguna soluci¨®n m¨¢s profesional en silicona o similar que se pueda colocar sobre la llave.

?Alquien ha tenido problemas similares? ?Qu¨¦ soluci¨®n hab¨¦is encontrado?

Soy m¨²sico aficionado, he empezado de mayor, no toco tantas horas al d¨ªa como para tener estos problemas, no acabo de entender que me ocurra esto en un plazo tan corto de tiempo.

Gracias anticipadas por cualquier consejo o idea. Saludos Fernando


 

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Hi Nancy, hi Fernando, Amanda here. I am from the US, and I am a 24 year player of orchestral western concert Flute. Unfortunately, I don't have any solutions, but maybe sort of moving your hands will loosen the muscles. I'm not sure if that will help. My apologies. Your English is very good Fernando. If you'd like, anyone on the group can private message me via email if they would like.
Amanda

On Apr 5, 2025, at 10:40?AM, Nancy Niemi via groups.io <nancyjniemi@...> wrote:

?Hi Fernando, I am also an amateur flutist, struggling with arthritis in my hands. I am writing just to add some support, I really have no solutions, sadly. I have one crooked finger in each hand, the middle one in each. This finger, especially the right one, has to do a special little maneuver to hit the keys correctly. I have asked a physical therapist about this, and, short of surgery, she had nothing to offer. I do have plugs in my keys which helps! I wish you luck and solutions, which I hope you will share with us ?

My best,
Nancy?



On Apr 5, 2025, at 6:37?AM, Fernando Ariznavarreta via groups.io <fernando@...> wrote:

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(versi¨®n en espa?ol al final)

Good morning to all

This group seems to be a bit stalled, let's see if there are still flute players listening.

I am an amateur musician from Spain (original message in Spanish at the end). Let's see if you can help me or give me some ideas.

I have been having problems in my hands for a year now, pain in my fingers and wrists. I have been diagnosed with osteoarthritis in my fingers, which has been getting worse and causes me problems and pain for many things, also when playing the flute.

The finger that is worse is the left index finger, the knuckle joint. Also the right index finger bothers me and the middle finger, but more at the level of the metacarpal joint, although the knuckle also bothers me.

Bending the left index finger at a right angle to press the key is painful and makes my fingering difficult. I have tried to alleviate this by moving my finger away from the key, so that I don't have to bend it so much, using one of those silicone thumb rests. With this, my index finger at metacarpal level rests on the silicone insert and I don't have to bend it so much. I have also used the thumb insert for the right hand.

But this affects the locking of the keys, I don't press the D and E keys with my right hand properly and sometimes it sounds dull or wrong, as if they don't lock properly. In the left hand, I manage to press the B key better, but I end up pressing too much on the index finger and it hurts my metatarsal joint quite a lot.

Thanks in advance for any advice or idea. Regards Fernando


Buenos d¨ªas a todos

Este grupo parece estar un poco parado, vamos a ver si todav¨ªa hay flautistas a la escucha.

Soy un m¨²sico aficionado de Espa?a (mensaje original en espa?ol al final). A ver si me pod¨¦is ayudar o proporcionar algunas ideas.

Llevo un a?o con problemas en las manos, dolores de dedos y mu?ecas. Me han diagnosticado artrosis en los dedos, que ha ido a peor y me provoca problemas y dolores para muchas cosas, tambi¨¦n al tocar la flauta.

El dedo que est¨¢ peor es el ¨ªndice izquierdo, la articulaci¨®n de nudillo. Tambi¨¦n el ¨ªndice derecho me molesta y el coraz¨®n, pero m¨¢s bien a la altura de la articulaci¨®n del metacarpo, si bien tambi¨¦n el nudillo me molesta.

El doblar el ¨ªndice izdo en ¨¢ngulo recto para presionar la llave me resulta doloroso y ello dificulta mi digitaci¨®n. He tratado de paliarlo alejando el dedo de la llave, de forma que no tenga que doblarlo tanto, usando un suplemento de esos de silicona de sujeaci¨®n del pulgar. Con ello mi dedo ¨ªndice a la altura del metacarpo se apoya en el suplemento de silicona y no tengo que doblarlo tanto. Tambi¨¦n he usado el suplemento del pulgar para la mano derecha.

Pero ello afecta al cierre de las llaves, no presiono las llaves del re y mi con la mano derecha de forma adecuada y a veces suena sordo o mal, como si no cerraran bien. En la mano izda, consigo mejor presionar la llave de si, pero acabo presionando demasiado sobre el dedo ¨ªndice y me duele bastante la articulaci¨®n del metatarso.

As¨ª que he tenido que quitar esos suplementos.

Ahora he puesto un suplemento usando cinta de doble cara sobre la llave de s¨ª, de forma que pueda cerrar la llave sin tener que doblar tanto el dedo.

Parece que me va mejor, pero es un tanto chapucero y la cinta resulta pegajosa y demasiado blanda.

No s¨¦ si existe alguna soluci¨®n m¨¢s profesional en silicona o similar que se pueda colocar sobre la llave.

?Alquien ha tenido problemas similares? ?Qu¨¦ soluci¨®n hab¨¦is encontrado?

Soy m¨²sico aficionado, he empezado de mayor, no toco tantas horas al d¨ªa como para tener estos problemas, no acabo de entender que me ocurra esto en un plazo tan corto de tiempo.

Gracias anticipadas por cualquier consejo o idea. Saludos Fernando


 

I just Googled ¡°adaptations for flute arthritis¡± and found several videos bu people who jave addressed this for their playing.


 

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Hi Sherry, hi Nancy. It's Amanda. How are you? Things are well here. At work right now at the moment, and it is extremely busy. Things are crazy tonight. Of course, it's a Saturday night, and that things are always a little bananas. Anyway, I don't have osteoarthritis, but I do have something called osteopenia. Are you familiar with it?
Amanda

On Apr 5, 2025, at 4:24?PM, Shari in Oregon via groups.io <shari.adams@...> wrote:

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I just Googled ¡°adaptations for flute arthritis¡± and found several videos bu people who jave addressed this for their playing.


 

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Hi Fernando,

??? I¡¯m afraid I haven¡¯t got the expertise to make any suggestions about your hands.? It must be difficult for you to have this issue when you love playing the flute.? Perhaps there are others on the list who have had success with overcoming the problem of arthritis and you¡¯ll get some advice.? I assume you¡¯ve been to a doctor with your issues.

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Regards,

Sandy (with ducks)

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Fernando Ariznavarreta via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, 5 April 2025 9:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Flutenet] Osteoarthritis problems in the hands: how to alleviate them when playing the flute?

?

(versi¨®n en espa?ol al final)

Good morning to all

This group seems to be a bit stalled, let's see if there are still flute players listening.

I am an amateur musician from Spain (original message in Spanish at the end). Let's see if you can help me or give me some ideas.

I have been having problems in my hands for a year now, pain in my fingers and wrists. I have been diagnosed with osteoarthritis in my fingers, which has been getting worse and causes me problems and pain for many things, also when playing the flute.

The finger that is worse is the left index finger, the knuckle joint. Also the right index finger bothers me and the middle finger, but more at the level of the metacarpal joint, although the knuckle also bothers me.

Bending the left index finger at a right angle to press the key is painful and makes my fingering difficult. I have tried to alleviate this by moving my finger away from the key, so that I don't have to bend it so much, using one of those silicone thumb rests. With this, my index finger at metacarpal level rests on the silicone insert and I don't have to bend it so much. I have also used the thumb insert for the right hand.

But this affects the locking of the keys, I don't press the D and E keys with my right hand properly and sometimes it sounds dull or wrong, as if they don't lock properly. In the left hand, I manage to press the B key better, but I end up pressing too much on the index finger and it hurts my metatarsal joint quite a lot.

Thanks in advance for any advice or idea. Regards Fernando


Buenos d¨ªas a todos

Este grupo parece estar un poco parado, vamos a ver si todav¨ªa hay flautistas a la escucha.

Soy un m¨²sico aficionado de Espa?a (mensaje original en espa?ol al final). A ver si me pod¨¦is ayudar o proporcionar algunas ideas.

Llevo un a?o con problemas en las manos, dolores de dedos y mu?ecas. Me han diagnosticado artrosis en los dedos, que ha ido a peor y me provoca problemas y dolores para muchas cosas, tambi¨¦n al tocar la flauta.

El dedo que est¨¢ peor es el ¨ªndice izquierdo, la articulaci¨®n de nudillo. Tambi¨¦n el ¨ªndice derecho me molesta y el coraz¨®n, pero m¨¢s bien a la altura de la articulaci¨®n del metacarpo, si bien tambi¨¦n el nudillo me molesta.

El doblar el ¨ªndice izdo en ¨¢ngulo recto para presionar la llave me resulta doloroso y ello dificulta mi digitaci¨®n. He tratado de paliarlo alejando el dedo de la llave, de forma que no tenga que doblarlo tanto, usando un suplemento de esos de silicona de sujeaci¨®n del pulgar. Con ello mi dedo ¨ªndice a la altura del metacarpo se apoya en el suplemento de silicona y no tengo que doblarlo tanto. Tambi¨¦n he usado el suplemento del pulgar para la mano derecha.

Pero ello afecta al cierre de las llaves, no presiono las llaves del re y mi con la mano derecha de forma adecuada y a veces suena sordo o mal, como si no cerraran bien. En la mano izda, consigo mejor presionar la llave de si, pero acabo presionando demasiado sobre el dedo ¨ªndice y me duele bastante la articulaci¨®n del metatarso.

As¨ª que he tenido que quitar esos suplementos.

Ahora he puesto un suplemento usando cinta de doble cara sobre la llave de s¨ª, de forma que pueda cerrar la llave sin tener que doblar tanto el dedo.

Parece que me va mejor, pero es un tanto chapucero y la cinta resulta pegajosa y demasiado blanda.

No s¨¦ si existe alguna soluci¨®n m¨¢s profesional en silicona o similar que se pueda colocar sobre la llave.

?Alquien ha tenido problemas similares? ?Qu¨¦ soluci¨®n hab¨¦is encontrado?

Soy m¨²sico aficionado, he empezado de mayor, no toco tantas horas al d¨ªa como para tener estos problemas, no acabo de entender que me ocurra esto en un plazo tan corto de tiempo.

Gracias anticipadas por cualquier consejo o idea. Saludos Fernando


 

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I have some similar problems developing. What I have done, which is similar to Marcel Moyse's "solution," is to shift the keys a bit. I do this with a pad on the key, which I locate to fit where my fingers fall. Also, this raises the key so that I don't contact nearby keys when I play. I use an insulation tape, Perma-Wrap by Nu-Calgon, which has a very strong adhesive on the back. If I have to shift the key very far, then the foam pad is unstable and bendy. To address this, I cut and glue on top of the pad (PVA glue) an aluminum disk shaped to address my problem. I may also put a thin foam pad on top of this (such as the material I mention above, but sliced thinner). I also have noticed that as I get older the skin on my fingers gets thinner, and sometimes it hurts to hold/play the flute, particularly my left index finger and right thumb. Putting this same tape wherever a hurting fingers lies on the flute gets rid of this pain as well, and gives me a better, less slippery, surface for holding the flute.

These are removable modifications, and the worst I've had to do is dissolve a bit of the adhesive with lighter fluid after removing the pads. This does not discolor my sterling silver flutes or my gold flutes (14k Haynes and 9k Arumite Powell).?

Right now on Ebay is a Couesnon flute that is modified as for Marcel Moyse (the listing states that it is "the" flute) that you can take a look at, or purchase (no, I have nothing to do with this listing, I just saw it when I Googled for such a flute).

Dave
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Hi David. It's nice to meet you. My name is Amanda. I'm from the US, and I am a 24 year player of the orchestral concert flute. It is so awesome that you have both Sterling silver and gold flutes. Sir James Galway, an 85 year old Flutest ?from Ireland is known as the man with the golden flute. His is a 14 karat gold flute. That is so cool. Today, my allergies are acting up, so I'm having trouble getting up into my higher notes. The pollen down here in Florida is really high right now. It is crazy.
Amanda

On Apr 6, 2025, at 12:42?PM, david harris via groups.io <dgharris@...> wrote:

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I have some similar problems developing. What I have done, which is similar to Marcel Moyse's "solution," is to shift the keys a bit. I do this with a pad on the key, which I locate to fit where my fingers fall. Also, this raises the key so that I don't contact nearby keys when I play. I use an insulation tape, Perma-Wrap by Nu-Calgon, which has a very strong adhesive on the back. If I have to shift the key very far, then the foam pad is unstable and bendy. To address this, I cut and glue on top of the pad (PVA glue) an aluminum disk shaped to address my problem. I may also put a thin foam pad on top of this (such as the material I mention above, but sliced thinner). I also have noticed that as I get older the skin on my fingers gets thinner, and sometimes it hurts to hold/play the flute, particularly my left index finger and right thumb. Putting this same tape wherever a hurting fingers lies on the flute gets rid of this pain as well, and gives me a better, less slippery, surface for holding the flute.

These are removable modifications, and the worst I've had to do is dissolve a bit of the adhesive with lighter fluid after removing the pads. This does not discolor my sterling silver flutes or my gold flutes (14k Haynes and 9k Arumite Powell).?

Right now on Ebay is a Couesnon flute that is modified as for Marcel Moyse (the listing states that it is "the" flute) that you can take a look at, or purchase (no, I have nothing to do with this listing, I just saw it when I Googled for such a flute).

Dave
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Edited

Thank you all for the responses and encouragement.

The truth is that I have been learning to play the flute for a few years now and I have been making progress, although slow, at certain ages we no longer have the learning ability of a child.

What I did not expect is that when I started to sound a bit better and to play a little better, I would find problems in the joints of my hands that would limit the time I could dedicate to it and would make it difficult to play.

I am not in a very advanced stage that prevents me from flexing my fingers, but it does limit the mobility of the fingers and causes me pain, and what I find most worrying is that all this has been in less than a year (I already had some discomfort but nothing to do with the evolution of the last year).

Nancy, Sandy, I consulted a rheumatologist a few months ago. She told me that I have osteoarthritis in my finger, but according to her ¡°it is normal because of my age¡±, she was hardly interested to hear what my difficulties were when playing the flute or she wondered if it could be due to a bad playing posture. What did become clear is that it is not advanced enough to operate and that it does not seem to have many solutions. I have a consultation with another rheumatologist pending, to see if he is a little more enthusiastic. Today I am 60 years old, I do not think it is an age in which it is common not to be able to open a bottle of coke without effort. In any case, what I am looking for is if it can be alleviated or stopped by not knowing my age, which I already knew.

Nancy, I am sorry to read that you also have problems with the joints of your hand, if I get any solution or improvement I will comment.

Amanda, warming up is something we should do yes, as well as stretching afterwards. The truth is that it is not something you are taught well (not just when playing the flute) and that is not given enough importance. But in this case the problem is joint inflammation and lack of mobility (I also have some problem in the shoulder and hips) muscle warming, although necessary, I don't think it would solve too much for the problem of mobility and joint pain.

Shari, I will seek for that in youtube and internet and see if they provide some idea that may help.

DAvid, that is the kind of gadget that I am trying to do in my flute. I had used the silicone suplements they sold for the right thumb and put it in the lef hand where the index finger holds the flute, in order to separate the finger from the flute and be able to not flex it so much to close the key. It worked more or less but, the I developed pain the the index metacarpal joint. It migh be too wide. It make it difficult to get good sound too.

I have now put several layers of double-sided foam tape over the B key. It seems to work better, as I have not to bend the finger so much. But it is too soft, I need something more rigid, like silicone or so and glue it to the key.

May you develope a bit more about the Marcel's Moyse solution? A link or reference where I can see photos or images?

Thank you all again for all your advices and support.

Regards, Fernando


 

Hi everyone,
It is terrible when you have something that is limiting or preventing you from playing flute or anything you enjoy doing.
Fingers crossed I don't have arthritis yet, so no first-hand experience.? I have seen gloves for arthritis, and maybe that's another avenue to explore.
Good luck!
Beth


 

Thank you. I had not heard about gloves for playing flute.

I think my problems are not so bad to require that.

I have seen in internet luthiers that make some adaptations suplementing some keys for people with problems in their fingers.

I have seen the adapted flute that David put from ebay. It seems the best and more professional solution.

But it requires a luthier or profesional in order to solder the metal suplements, and I don't know of any luthier in my surrounds that does that, will have to investigate.

And before doing that you need to test it to know the size of the supplements.

I have been give the idea by Jennifer of using cork and wood that seems a good idea, as I can test it myself.

Will need to investigate the kind of appropiate glue to fix it.

I will onl need a suplement in th B key, just a circular pad of cork or wood over the key with the appropiate thickness.

Will try.

Thank you all


 

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I too am of an age where osteo arthritis is a thing. Whilst it is not bad enough to make fingering impossible I have noticed, that when I play my open holed flute, that I have some difficulty in placing the fingers of my right hand accurately enough on the final two keys that I don't think they are always sealing properly leading to a few bum notes. I know it is me not the flute because I recently had the pads on the foot replaced and the springs adjusted. I do not get the same problems on my other flute so I think I have correctly identified where the problem is coming from and it is me.? The solution would be straightforward, I shall have to get some plugs for those keys

Larry


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Fernando Ariznavarreta via groups.io <fernando@...>
Sent: 08 April 2025 12:01
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Flutenet] Osteoarthritis problems in the hands: how to alleviate them when playing the flute?
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Thank you. I had not heard about gloves for playing flute.

I think my problems are not so bad to require that.

I have seen in internet luthiers that make some adaptations suplementing some keys for people with problems in their fingers.

I have seen the adapted flute that David put from ebay. It seems the best and more professional solution.

But it requires a luthier or profesional in order to solder the metal suplements, and I don't know of any luthier in my surrounds that does that, will have to investigate.

And before doing that you need to test it to know the size of the supplements.

I have been give the idea by Jennifer of using cork and wood that seems a good idea, as I can test it myself.

Will need to investigate the kind of appropiate glue to fix it.

I will onl need a suplement in th B key, just a circular pad of cork or wood over the key with the appropiate thickness.

Will try.

Thank you all


 

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Sometimes hand and finger pain is caused by keys not closing completely.? Without thinking about it, we start to press harder to prevent those tiny leaks.? Find your best playing position with very light pressure on the fingers and keys.? If all of the notes aren't clear, have your flute checked.? A professional repair technician is best for finding and correcting these problems.? I just had this work done on my alto flute which I hadn't been playing regularly.? I thought the problems were just in the right-hand keys, but almost all of the pads needed a little adjustment.? It's so easy to start pressing a little harder with all fingers without really thinking about it.
Grace LaRayne?
AKA Grace the Bass


 

Another way to make key modifications is to use a moldable thermoplastic. This type of plastic softens at around 140F/60C, and can be molded by hand into whatever shape you want; you ust drop it into hot water to soften it up. I¡¯ve added height to my contrabass keys to great success. I just put a blob onto the key I¡¯d like to adjust, mold it, and let it cool,in place. Placing it on the key when it¡¯s soft molds it to the exact shape of the key. It doesn¡¯t stick to metal, so I use CA glue to attach it to my flute.

There are many brands; one is ¡°Instamorph¡±. Its generic name is polycaprolactone.

Regards,
--TcJ
Regards,
--TcJ


 

Larry, not pressing enough the keys may produce bad sound as you say, so we tend to make more pressure when the flute does not produce a good sound. Other problem migh be not closing well the holes in the key (in a flute opened hole). Using silicone plugs might let you determine if that is the problem. The problem might be that the key does not fit perfectly over its basement too. If you have sent it to a luthier that sould have been corrected.

If you have the same problem in different flutes, problably it is your fault. Try using plugs. When I uses a thumb rest in my right hand, the lower notes began to sound worse. I think that somehow the position of my fingers changed due to it and some of the holes were not well closed sometimes. Now that I have taken away the thumb rest again it is easier to play the lower notes (but my thumb sometimes moves out of its correct position).

For the left index finger using a suplement for the B key is giving me better results than a thumb rest to separate the finger from the flute.

Grace, you are right, I think that too much force is one of my problems.

When I get nervous or there is a quick part I tend to make too much force. I am correcting it and now I make less pressure, but my problems might have that origin: too much pressure over the keys.

Sometimes I think some of the keys do not close perfectly, but not sure (other times the sound perfectly). This year I will send my flute to a luthier to have a revision. I have not sent it since I bought it several year ago (not sure may be 4).

Tom, thanks for the suggestion. I will seek for that plastic, it sounds a good idea too. I will try with cork first as it is easy to have a wine cork at hand.

CA glue is contact cement?

The appropiate glue to fix the gadget to the key is the key point in it.

thank you all