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Julie/Tom Roper
Quackwatch's purpose is to promote burning, cutting, and Big
Pharma. Its aim is to keep your attention away from the real quacks. As for the "pro-alternative camp" being just as biased the other way, you only need to read any alternative group to find opinions all over the spectrum. Quackwatch hammers its one point, over and over, till not even an Excedrin'll help you. Quackwatch doesn't do it for free -- or because it cares about your health. Pro-alternatives are almost universally concerned only about your getting well, whatever form that takes. |
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Catherine Coy
"Pro-alternatives are almost universally concerned only about your getting well, whatever form that takes."
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I agree. I think the emerging field of immunotherapy in cancer care is an exciting one. Even though it's equally as toxic (Interferon, for example), the degree of toxicity varies from person to person and can be mitigated with supplements, Guided Imagery, etc. Why throw the baby out with the bathwater, which is what 100% conventional and 100% alternative seems to do, in my opinion. ----- Original Message -----
From: Julie/Tom Roper To: FlaxSeedOil2@... Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 6:42 AM Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] qyackwatch quacks like a duck Quackwatch's purpose is to promote burning, cutting, and Big Pharma. Its aim is to keep your attention away from the real quacks. As for the "pro-alternative camp" being just as biased the other way, you only need to read any alternative group to find opinions all over the spectrum. Quackwatch hammers its one point, over and over, till not even an Excedrin'll help you. Quackwatch doesn't do it for free -- or because it cares about your health. Pro-alternatives are almost universally concerned only about your getting well, whatever form that takes. Note: The contents of the posts on FlaxSeedOil2 are purely educational and are not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctor about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Patricia A. Bafford
My two cents worth on Quackwatch: when I was diagnosed with breast cancer in September of 2002, I did tons of research, including reading articles on Quackwatch to get both sides and make my decisions. I never will forget one article by Stephen Barrett, M.D., the guy who runs Quackwatch, in which he stated that (paraphrasing) "nothing you eat will have any affect on your cancer--period." Well, that was enough for me to form my opinion of Quackwatch as being the real Quack. Any one who can make a blanket statement like that, as if it was fact, despite tons of evidence to the contrary, qualifies as a Quack in my book.
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Pat Bafford First Financial Resources 2360 W. Joppa Road, Suite 310 Lutherville, MD 21093 Phone: (410) 832-2400 Fax: (410) 832-2410 Email: pat@... -----Original Message-----
From: Julie/Tom Roper [mailto:tar00@...] Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 9:43 AM To: FlaxSeedOil2@... Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] qyackwatch quacks like a duck Quackwatch's purpose is to promote burning, cutting, and Big Pharma. Its aim is to keep your attention away from the real quacks. As for the "pro-alternative camp" being just as biased the other way, you only need to read any alternative group to find opinions all over the spectrum. Quackwatch hammers its one point, over and over, till not even an Excedrin'll help you. Quackwatch doesn't do it for free -- or because it cares about your health. Pro-alternatives are almost universally concerned only about your getting well, whatever form that takes. Note: The contents of the posts on FlaxSeedOil2 are purely educational and are not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctor about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <> click here <> _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@... <mailto:FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@...?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <> . |
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Catherine Coy
"Nothing you eat will have any effect on your cancer--period." -- Dr. Quackwatch
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This is absurd on its face. And putting water in your car's tank will allow you to drive it just as well, too. Yet this is how the entire conventional medical world thinks. When my friend was diagnosed with Stage 1 melanoma, his doctor said not one word about nutrition, yet when I promoted dense nutrition as a way to beat back cancer, I was/am treated like a nutcase. How in the world does the conventional world get away with such irresponsible behavior as to not advise the patient that an immediate change in dietary habits not only could be but WILL be helpful? ----- Original Message -----
From: Patricia A. Bafford To: FlaxSeedOil2@... Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 8:57 AM Subject: RE: [FlaxSeedOil2] qyackwatch quacks like a duck My two cents worth on Quackwatch: when I was diagnosed with breast cancer in September of 2002, I did tons of research, including reading articles on Quackwatch to get both sides and make my decisions. I never will forget one article by Stephen Barrett, M.D., the guy who runs Quackwatch, in which he stated that (paraphrasing) "nothing you eat will have any affect on your cancer--period." Well, that was enough for me to form my opinion of Quackwatch as being the real Quack. Any one who can make a blanket statement like that, as if it was fact, despite tons of evidence to the contrary, qualifies as a Quack in my book. Pat Bafford First Financial Resources 2360 W. Joppa Road, Suite 310 Lutherville, MD 21093 Phone: (410) 832-2400 Fax: (410) 832-2410 Email: pat@... -----Original Message----- From: Julie/Tom Roper [mailto:tar00@...] Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 9:43 AM To: FlaxSeedOil2@... Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] qyackwatch quacks like a duck Quackwatch's purpose is to promote burning, cutting, and Big Pharma. Its aim is to keep your attention away from the real quacks. As for the "pro-alternative camp" being just as biased the other way, you only need to read any alternative group to find opinions all over the spectrum. Quackwatch hammers its one point, over and over, till not even an Excedrin'll help you. Quackwatch doesn't do it for free -- or because it cares about your health. Pro-alternatives are almost universally concerned only about your getting well, whatever form that takes. Note: The contents of the posts on FlaxSeedOil2 are purely educational and are not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctor about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <> click here <> _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@... <mailto:FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@...?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <> . Note: The contents of the posts on FlaxSeedOil2 are purely educational and are not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctor about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Patricia A. Bafford
The cases like this are too numerous to mention. My boss's wife was diagnosed with brain cancer (glioblastoma) in January 2003 and given very little hope. I hooked her up with Kelly whose husband Tom was diagnosed with the same type of cancer and is alive and well today using FO/CC and other alternative methods ( www.flaxoflife.com). She wasn't convinced and went the conventional route, even though they gave her no hope. She did, however, want to add the FO/CC to her diet. Unbelievably, the doctors at Johns Hopkins cancer center told her NOT to change her diet in any way and NOT to take the FO/CC. Why would they say that? Surely, they know that it will not hurt her, so why not let her do it? I don't understand this line of thinking--it is totally illogical to me. Needless to say, after chemo, radiation, and 2 "experimental" treatments, she's very close to death.
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Pat Bafford First Financial Resources 2360 W. Joppa Road, Suite 310 Lutherville, MD 21093 Phone: (410) 832-2400 Fax: (410) 832-2410 Email: pat@... -----Original Message-----
From: Catherine Coy [mailto:catherinecoy@...] Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 12:21 PM To: FlaxSeedOil2@... Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] qyackwatch quacks like a duck "Nothing you eat will have any effect on your cancer--period." -- Dr. Quackwatch This is absurd on its face. And putting water in your car's tank will allow you to drive it just as well, too. Yet this is how the entire conventional medical world thinks. When my friend was diagnosed with Stage 1 melanoma, his doctor said not one word about nutrition, yet when I promoted dense nutrition as a way to beat back cancer, I was/am treated like a nutcase. How in the world does the conventional world get away with such irresponsible behavior as to not advise the patient that an immediate change in dietary habits not only could be but WILL be helpful? ----- Original Message ----- From: Patricia A. Bafford To: FlaxSeedOil2@... Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 8:57 AM Subject: RE: [FlaxSeedOil2] qyackwatch quacks like a duck My two cents worth on Quackwatch: when I was diagnosed with breast cancer in September of 2002, I did tons of research, including reading articles on Quackwatch to get both sides and make my decisions. I never will forget one article by Stephen Barrett, M.D., the guy who runs Quackwatch, in which he stated that (paraphrasing) "nothing you eat will have any affect on your cancer--period." Well, that was enough for me to form my opinion of Quackwatch as being the real Quack. Any one who can make a blanket statement like that, as if it was fact, despite tons of evidence to the contrary, qualifies as a Quack in my book. Pat Bafford First Financial Resources 2360 W. Joppa Road, Suite 310 Lutherville, MD 21093 Phone: (410) 832-2400 Fax: (410) 832-2410 Email: pat@... -----Original Message----- From: Julie/Tom Roper [mailto:tar00@...] Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 9:43 AM To: FlaxSeedOil2@... Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] qyackwatch quacks like a duck Quackwatch's purpose is to promote burning, cutting, and Big Pharma. Its aim is to keep your attention away from the real quacks. As for the "pro-alternative camp" being just as biased the other way, you only need to read any alternative group to find opinions all over the spectrum. Quackwatch hammers its one point, over and over, till not even an Excedrin'll help you. Quackwatch doesn't do it for free -- or because it cares about your health. Pro-alternatives are almost universally concerned only about your getting well, whatever form that takes. Note: The contents of the posts on FlaxSeedOil2 are purely educational and are not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctor about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT < > click here < > _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@... <mailto:FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@...?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service < > . Note: The contents of the posts on FlaxSeedOil2 are purely educational and are not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctor about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Note: The contents of the posts on FlaxSeedOil2 are purely educational and are not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctor about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <> click here <> _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@... <mailto:FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@...?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <> . |
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Catherine Coy
Thanks for the link to Mike's story, Patricia. Does anyone have any other testimonials like Mike's to which you can point me?
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I don't like to see blatant selling of MLM products at sites such as Mike's, however. Ruins his whole testimony, in my opinion. ----- Original Message -----
From: Patricia A. Bafford To: FlaxSeedOil2@... Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 10:07 AM Subject: RE: [FlaxSeedOil2] qyackwatch quacks like a duck The cases like this are too numerous to mention. My boss's wife was diagnosed with brain cancer (glioblastoma) in January 2003 and given very little hope. I hooked her up with Kelly whose husband Tom was diagnosed with the same type of cancer and is alive and well today using FO/CC and other alternative methods ( www.flaxoflife.com). She wasn't convinced and went the conventional route, even though they gave her no hope. She did, however, want to add the FO/CC to her diet. Unbelievably, the doctors at Johns Hopkins cancer center told her NOT to change her diet in any way and NOT to take the FO/CC. Why would they say that? Surely, they know that it will not hurt her, so why not let her do it? I don't understand this line of thinking--it is totally illogical to me. Needless to say, after chemo, radiation, and 2 "experimental" treatments, she's very close to death. Pat Bafford First Financial Resources 2360 W. Joppa Road, Suite 310 Lutherville, MD 21093 Phone: (410) 832-2400 Fax: (410) 832-2410 Email: pat@... -----Original Message----- From: Catherine Coy [mailto:catherinecoy@...] Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 12:21 PM To: FlaxSeedOil2@... Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] qyackwatch quacks like a duck "Nothing you eat will have any effect on your cancer--period." -- Dr. Quackwatch This is absurd on its face. And putting water in your car's tank will allow you to drive it just as well, too. Yet this is how the entire conventional medical world thinks. When my friend was diagnosed with Stage 1 melanoma, his doctor said not one word about nutrition, yet when I promoted dense nutrition as a way to beat back cancer, I was/am treated like a nutcase. How in the world does the conventional world get away with such irresponsible behavior as to not advise the patient that an immediate change in dietary habits not only could be but WILL be helpful? ----- Original Message ----- From: Patricia A. Bafford To: FlaxSeedOil2@... Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 8:57 AM Subject: RE: [FlaxSeedOil2] qyackwatch quacks like a duck My two cents worth on Quackwatch: when I was diagnosed with breast cancer in September of 2002, I did tons of research, including reading articles on Quackwatch to get both sides and make my decisions. I never will forget one article by Stephen Barrett, M.D., the guy who runs Quackwatch, in which he stated that (paraphrasing) "nothing you eat will have any affect on your cancer--period." Well, that was enough for me to form my opinion of Quackwatch as being the real Quack. Any one who can make a blanket statement like that, as if it was fact, despite tons of evidence to the contrary, qualifies as a Quack in my book. Pat Bafford First Financial Resources 2360 W. Joppa Road, Suite 310 Lutherville, MD 21093 Phone: (410) 832-2400 Fax: (410) 832-2410 Email: pat@... -----Original Message----- From: Julie/Tom Roper [mailto:tar00@...] Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 9:43 AM To: FlaxSeedOil2@... Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] qyackwatch quacks like a duck Quackwatch's purpose is to promote burning, cutting, and Big Pharma. Its aim is to keep your attention away from the real quacks. As for the "pro-alternative camp" being just as biased the other way, you only need to read any alternative group to find opinions all over the spectrum. Quackwatch hammers its one point, over and over, till not even an Excedrin'll help you. Quackwatch doesn't do it for free -- or because it cares about your health. Pro-alternatives are almost universally concerned only about your getting well, whatever form that takes. Note: The contents of the posts on FlaxSeedOil2 are purely educational and are not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctor about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT < > click here < > _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@... <mailto:FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@...?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service < > . Note: The contents of the posts on FlaxSeedOil2 are purely educational and are not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctor about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Note: The contents of the posts on FlaxSeedOil2 are purely educational and are not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctor about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <> click here <> _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@... <mailto:FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@...?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <> . Note: The contents of the posts on FlaxSeedOil2 are purely educational and are not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctor about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems. Yahoo! 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rifle147620
Interesting Report on the "quackers" and Big Pharma:
SUBSCRIBE to this newsletter Newsletter ARCHIVES America vs. Quackbusters - the Wisconsin "Suster Case"... Opinion by Consumer Advocate Tim Bolen Monday, August 9th, 2004 The biggest all-out battle between Big Pharma and the people of America is happening in Wisconsin, for it is there that Big Pharma, through its floundering "quackbuster" operation, is trying to set a precedent courtroom win in place. Big Pharma, through the "Suster Case," has pulled out all the stops. We'll see the next chapter unfold on August 18th, 2004, in a hearing in front of the Wisconsin Medical Board. Big Pharma is desperate to win. The "Suster Case," is, for all practical purposes, Big Pharma's last stand. Why? Because, over 50% of the total US health dollar is now being spent on what's been labeled "Alternative Medicine," and they (alternatives) are, for the most part, paid for by out-of-pocket consumer dollars - not health insurance or Medicare. All insurance or Medicare will pay for, currently, is "conventional" health care methods. But Stuart Suster MD, a Milwaukee Pain Management Specialist, a true American, decided to change all that - and he set out to force the issue of payment for "alternatives" by insurance companies. He offered "alternative" pain management techniques, and he insisted that health insurance companies pay for them, and pay reasonable amounts. If Suster wins his argument, then the door is open for the billing of "alternatives." His method will have faced the challenge. Big Pharma, on the other hand, has a huge investment in the medical status quo. Big Pharma is COMPLETELY DEPENDENT upon continuing what's known as "five-minute medicine," the practice where conventional Physicians are so over-booked with patients that the Physician/Patient contact is never more than five minutes at a time, and goes something like "Hi, how are you... let me write you twenty- two new prescriptions." The Story Gets Worse... Stuart Suster MD, in his quest to offer better pain management techniques, did his research about what worked best, and would get his patients back into a normal life. But, he also researched "how to bill" for those services. He hired the best experts he could find to set up his billing, including the services of a health insurance expert who later was appointed by the Governor, to be the Insurance Commissioner of the State of Wisconsin. I'd say that in Court, his claims were unassailable. Big Pharma, looking at this situation from their New York ad agency viewpoint (Quackbuster Central), probably went into a panic, for they knew they couldn't beat Suster in Court. The end of the huge profit run of "five minute medicine" was on the horizon. So what did Big Pharma do? Of course, they went for the sleaze. What do you expect? In Wisconsin, they had "ready-made" sleaze already available - in the person of one Arthur Thexton, the Wisconsin Department of Regulation & Licensing (DRL) prosecutor who became nationally famous (infamous) for paying a quackbuster, one Bobbie Baratz, over $70,000 in "expert witness" fees - and then losing the case when it was found out that Baratz had a "fake" resume. Thexton went to work for Big Pharma with a vengeance. First, he tried to get an agency, any agency, to prosecute Suster. When that failed he went to a fifth-rate Television station in Milwaukee, one that had a so-called "Investigative Reporter" and handed them over a hundred patients records (was that a HIPPA violation?) to the station,. The station went out of its way to damage Suster in his community. Then Thexton started using the Administrative Law process to try and take Suster's license away from him Etc., etc., etc... All of Thexton's efforts have been recorded elsewhere. But the important thing about the case is the question "Why did Thexton, and his quackbuster paymasters, work so hard on this case." Easy answer... "Desperation." Big Pharma, after all their investment, has to be in shock at the lackluster performance of their "quackbuster" gambit - the one they funded, and put into operation, around the time the AMA lost the battle to the Chiropractors in the Wilk v. AMA case. The "quackbusters" have been losing one battle, after another, for years. Their visible leadership (the ones they want us to see), like the self-proclaimed, and courtroom humiliated, National Council Against Health Fraud (NCAHF), and delicensed MD Stephen Barrett and his ludicrous website "quackwatch.com," have become A SERIOUS LIABILITY to them. Barrett, for instance, was declared in a PUBLISHED Appeals Court decision to be "biased, and unworthy of credibility." The NCAHF, besides the obvious problems with its president, Bobbie Baratz, currently owes six Homeopathic Manufacturers over a $100,000 in legal fee awards, it has no ability to pay - and they are waiting for the axe to fall. And fall it will - I promise. The "Suster Case," in Wisconsin is an important one for Big Pharma to win. If health professionals can be paid by insurance companies for services that work, and are safe and effective, why would they use useless pharmaceuticals? In Wisconsin. Big Pharma is still trying, feverishly, to stamp out innovation in health care. Are we going to let it happen? Stay tuned... Tim Bolen - Consumer Advocate This "Millions of Health Freedom Fighters - Newsletter" is about the battle between "Health and Medicine" on Planet Earth. Tim Bolen is an op/ed writer with extensive knowledge of the activities of a subversive organization calling itself the "quackbusters," and that organization's attempts to suppress, and discredit, any, and all health modalities that compete with the allopathic (MD) paradigm for consumer health dollars. The focus of the newsletter is on the ongoing activities, battles, politics, and the victories won by members of the "Health Freedom Movement" against the "quackbusters" It details "who the quackbusters are, what they are, where they are operating, when they appear, and how they operate - and how easy it is to beat them..." For background information on the "Battle between Health and Medicine" go to: . A copy of THIS newsletter, and older ones, are viewable at the website . For EVEN MORE interesting and related articles go to . --- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Catherine Coy" <catherinecoy@c...> wrote: "Nothing you eat will have any effect on your cancer--period." --Dr. Quackwatch will allow you to drive it just as well, too. my friend was diagnosed with Stage 1 melanoma, his doctor said not one word about nutrition, yet when I promoted dense nutrition as a way to beat back cancer, I was/am treated like a nutcase. irresponsible behavior as to not advise the patient that an immediate change in dietary habits not only could be but WILL be helpful? breast cancer in September of 2002, I did tons of research, including reading articles on Quackwatch to get both sides and make my decisions. I never will forget one article by Stephen Barrett, M.D., the guy who runs Quackwatch, in which he stated that (paraphrasing) "nothing you eat will have any affect on your cancer-- period." Well, that was enough for me to form my opinion of Quackwatch as being the real Quack. 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Catherine Coy
What's sad about this whole Big Pharma phenomenon now playing itself out daily in our country (indeed the world) is that people are DYING because they earnestly believe the propaganda dished out by Big Pharma. It's nothing short of what happened to the Tobacco Industry. Sooner or later, Big Pharma will have to pay for its malfeasance, but not before many hundreds of thousands more die.
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I know I'm preaching to the choir here but, if you ever need any ammunition for your stand as pro-alternative, read a few of the essays listed at the link in the lower right quadrant of this web page. Alternative Medicine Magazine "On the Edge" with Burton Goldberg, Editor ----- Original Message -----
From: rifle147620 To: FlaxSeedOil2@... Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 11:42 AM Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: qyackwatch quacks like a duck Interesting Report on the "quackers" and Big Pharma: SUBSCRIBE to this newsletter Newsletter ARCHIVES America vs. Quackbusters - the Wisconsin "Suster Case"... Opinion by Consumer Advocate Tim Bolen Monday, August 9th, 2004 The biggest all-out battle between Big Pharma and the people of America is happening in Wisconsin, for it is there that Big Pharma, through its floundering "quackbuster" operation, is trying to set a precedent courtroom win in place. Big Pharma, through the "Suster Case," has pulled out all the stops. We'll see the next chapter unfold on August 18th, 2004, in a hearing in front of the Wisconsin Medical Board. Big Pharma is desperate to win. The "Suster Case," is, for all practical purposes, Big Pharma's last stand. Why? Because, over 50% of the total US health dollar is now being spent on what's been labeled "Alternative Medicine," and they (alternatives) are, for the most part, paid for by out-of-pocket consumer dollars - not health insurance or Medicare. All insurance or Medicare will pay for, currently, is "conventional" health care methods. But Stuart Suster MD, a Milwaukee Pain Management Specialist, a true American, decided to change all that - and he set out to force the issue of payment for "alternatives" by insurance companies. He offered "alternative" pain management techniques, and he insisted that health insurance companies pay for them, and pay reasonable amounts. If Suster wins his argument, then the door is open for the billing of "alternatives." His method will have faced the challenge. Big Pharma, on the other hand, has a huge investment in the medical status quo. Big Pharma is COMPLETELY DEPENDENT upon continuing what's known as "five-minute medicine," the practice where conventional Physicians are so over-booked with patients that the Physician/Patient contact is never more than five minutes at a time, and goes something like "Hi, how are you... let me write you twenty- two new prescriptions." The Story Gets Worse... Stuart Suster MD, in his quest to offer better pain management techniques, did his research about what worked best, and would get his patients back into a normal life. But, he also researched "how to bill" for those services. He hired the best experts he could find to set up his billing, including the services of a health insurance expert who later was appointed by the Governor, to be the Insurance Commissioner of the State of Wisconsin. I'd say that in Court, his claims were unassailable. Big Pharma, looking at this situation from their New York ad agency viewpoint (Quackbuster Central), probably went into a panic, for they knew they couldn't beat Suster in Court. The end of the huge profit run of "five minute medicine" was on the horizon. So what did Big Pharma do? Of course, they went for the sleaze. What do you expect? In Wisconsin, they had "ready-made" sleaze already available - in the person of one Arthur Thexton, the Wisconsin Department of Regulation & Licensing (DRL) prosecutor who became nationally famous (infamous) for paying a quackbuster, one Bobbie Baratz, over $70,000 in "expert witness" fees - and then losing the case when it was found out that Baratz had a "fake" resume. Thexton went to work for Big Pharma with a vengeance. First, he tried to get an agency, any agency, to prosecute Suster. When that failed he went to a fifth-rate Television station in Milwaukee, one that had a so-called "Investigative Reporter" and handed them over a hundred patients records (was that a HIPPA violation?) to the station,. The station went out of its way to damage Suster in his community. Then Thexton started using the Administrative Law process to try and take Suster's license away from him Etc., etc., etc... All of Thexton's efforts have been recorded elsewhere. But the important thing about the case is the question "Why did Thexton, and his quackbuster paymasters, work so hard on this case." Easy answer... "Desperation." Big Pharma, after all their investment, has to be in shock at the lackluster performance of their "quackbuster" gambit - the one they funded, and put into operation, around the time the AMA lost the battle to the Chiropractors in the Wilk v. AMA case. The "quackbusters" have been losing one battle, after another, for years. Their visible leadership (the ones they want us to see), like the self-proclaimed, and courtroom humiliated, National Council Against Health Fraud (NCAHF), and delicensed MD Stephen Barrett and his ludicrous website "quackwatch.com," have become A SERIOUS LIABILITY to them. Barrett, for instance, was declared in a PUBLISHED Appeals Court decision to be "biased, and unworthy of credibility." The NCAHF, besides the obvious problems with its president, Bobbie Baratz, currently owes six Homeopathic Manufacturers over a $100,000 in legal fee awards, it has no ability to pay - and they are waiting for the axe to fall. And fall it will - I promise. The "Suster Case," in Wisconsin is an important one for Big Pharma to win. If health professionals can be paid by insurance companies for services that work, and are safe and effective, why would they use useless pharmaceuticals? In Wisconsin. Big Pharma is still trying, feverishly, to stamp out innovation in health care. Are we going to let it happen? Stay tuned... Tim Bolen - Consumer Advocate This "Millions of Health Freedom Fighters - Newsletter" is about the battle between "Health and Medicine" on Planet Earth. Tim Bolen is an op/ed writer with extensive knowledge of the activities of a subversive organization calling itself the "quackbusters," and that organization's attempts to suppress, and discredit, any, and all health modalities that compete with the allopathic (MD) paradigm for consumer health dollars. The focus of the newsletter is on the ongoing activities, battles, politics, and the victories won by members of the "Health Freedom Movement" against the "quackbusters" It details "who the quackbusters are, what they are, where they are operating, when they appear, and how they operate - and how easy it is to beat them..." For background information on the "Battle between Health and Medicine" go to: . A copy of THIS newsletter, and older ones, are viewable at the website . For EVEN MORE interesting and related articles go to . --- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Catherine Coy" <catherinecoy@c...> wrote: > "Nothing you eat will have any effect on your cancer--period." -- Dr. Quackwatch > > This is absurd on its face. And putting water in your car's tank will allow you to drive it just as well, too. > > Yet this is how the entire conventional medical world thinks. When my friend was diagnosed with Stage 1 melanoma, his doctor said not one word about nutrition, yet when I promoted dense nutrition as a way to beat back cancer, I was/am treated like a nutcase. > > How in the world does the conventional world get away with such irresponsible behavior as to not advise the patient that an immediate change in dietary habits not only could be but WILL be helpful? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Patricia A. Bafford > To: FlaxSeedOil2@... > Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 8:57 AM > Subject: RE: [FlaxSeedOil2] qyackwatch quacks like a duck > > > My two cents worth on Quackwatch: when I was diagnosed with breast cancer in September of 2002, I did tons of research, including reading articles on Quackwatch to get both sides and make my decisions. I never will forget one article by Stephen Barrett, M.D., the guy who runs Quackwatch, in which he stated that (paraphrasing) "nothing you eat will have any affect on your cancer-- period." Well, that was enough for me to form my opinion of Quackwatch as being the real Quack. Any one who can make a blanket statement like that, as if it was fact, despite tons of evidence to the contrary, qualifies as a Quack in my book. > > > Pat Bafford > First Financial Resources > 2360 W. 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