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Curcumin or Turmeric
Alex
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The curcumin that Swanson and Life Extension sells is an extract of turmeric that is standardized to contain 95% total curcuminoids. It is the curcuminoids that are believed to be the effective part of turmeric. I think you are buying plain ground up turmeric which is very inexpensive. However if it worked for your wife and your patients that's wonderful. Ed Brenner Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 23:36:45 -0700 From: "Alex Torres" <atorres@...> Subject: RE: Curcumin Source Dear Terry and Ksenjia, With 10 dollars you can get un kilo (1000 grams or approximately 1300 capsules) of curcumin. Black Pepper cost 5 dollars enough for 1000 capsules and one number 3 capsules box with 1000 empty capsules cost 12 dollars. Make your homework鈥� that鈥檚 the reason we are making our own curcumin. We cannot afford to make rich some health food companies鈥� Alex Torres M.D. www.geocities.com/compu_dr/ -----Original Message-----
From: Ksenija oberlander [mailto:ksenija_oberlander@...] Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 4:55 PM To: FlaxSeedOil2@... Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Curcumin Source Ed This is indeed a good price. Have you been taking this prfoduct and are you toleratling it well? Ksenjia steeleglas@... wrote: I purchase curcumin from www.swansonvitamins.com. I bottle of 60 caps each with 900mg plus bioperine costs $11.39. Ed Brenner |
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Re: help on lymph nodes
Hi Rich,
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first of all pls try to relax even if it seems very hard... I have read in various places that cancer patients realize "after the event" that there was no real need to hurry any decisions, it is only their doctors who make it appear so and who put the pressure on them... so it is very likely that both you and she do have time to think and learn before deciding on any one course of action ... and bravo for immediately putting her on the Budwig protocol!!!, just make sure, in case you haven't done so yet, to follow the instructions very carefully by studying the Files section of this group... Concerning the treatment options offered by her doctor, read (and ask her to read) for instance "For Anyone Thinking Of Having Mainstream Treatment" on www.healingcancernaturally.com/why_alternatives5.html, and the discussions of "Choosing an alternative cancer healing protocol", "Breast cancer treatment advice" and "Breast cancer: does mastectomy/lumpectomy 'cure cancer'?" on www.healingcancernaturally.com/testimonials2.html ... And perhaps most importantly right now, educate her about the extremely real risk of developing lymphedema after taking out lymph nodes, lymphedema can become a living hell on earth for those affected... "www.healingcancernaturally.com/why_alternatives3.html#Possible side effects" (pls paste in this whole line including "Possible side effects") Re your note that "some people are hard to get to belive in something they havent heard of before", there is an article at www.healingcancernaturally.com/why_alternatives4.html "Why even very ill and suffering people - in spite of mainstream therapy failing to help them - may ridicule, reject, and attack medical alternatives in cancer treatment" which addresses many points likely to play a role in such attitudes... You will find this flaxoil2 group very knowledgeable and supportive and I believe you have made an excellent choice by starting her on the Budwig protocol. All the best, Ulla richryan46@a... wrote: |
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Re: OT---swelling and weakness in arm after blood test--help p...
In a message dated 8/9/2004 10:54:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
wilhelmh@... writes: If you consider the very high level of vit.K in Kale for example, as wellMy thoughts are in Vitamin K supplements in addition to, not instead of, green vegetables. Perhaps a supplement is unnecessary, given the quality of my diet. But you are right...that little nagging voice inside me makes it very difficult to give up the thought of supplements -- the old more is better philosophy. Oh...so much to learn! Take care, BarbF |
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Re: Breaking the Budwig Rules
max
Wilhelm
As far as I know, I do not have significant malignancy at this moment, so I am not making any dietary changes. But I appreciate your insight into the need for changes when malignancy occurs. Max From: "Wilhelm Hansen" <wilhelmh@...> To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 3:20 AM Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: Breaking the Budwig Rules Max, |
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Re: Curcumin and food
Alex Torres
Terry,
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Try this: take one, two or three grams of curcumin with an empty stomach鈥� and start to feel the burning鈥� There are several writings on curcumin and toxicity is nil, and for my wife is a godsend, she was able to work again after spending 6 months on a wheel chair without movement, talking, thinking or living. Right now she drives daily (8 continuous hours ) a pickup, controls all the people under her command and show them how to do things the right way. Really amazing! And if you order some curcumin from us, you will be helping us to help others! 鈽� Alex Torres M.D. www.geocities.com/compu_dr/ -----Original Message-----
From: dazmolikeit [mailto:slickpicker@...] Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 1:17 PM To: FlaxSeedOil2@... Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Curcumin and food --- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Alex Torres" <atorres@d...> wrote: Dear Terry,linen and I recommend to my patients to ingest it with food and somecalcium carbonate.Hi Alex: Thanks much for your prompt reply. Life Extension also recommends taking their product with food. The reason I asked relates to the following I saw on a physician's site who advocates hormone blockade along with certain complementary supplements: "The owner of the company that makes this product recommends that men with prostate cancer be treated with two capsules three times per day on an empty stomach, although the literature that I received recommended taking it with a heavy meal. The owner of the company is aware of this, and states that the recommendation to take it with food is not correct, that it should be taken on an empty stomach. The good news is that it is inexpensive; 60 capsules cost only about $15.00. The product can be ordered by calling (888) 852-4993. The name of the company is Natural Health Consultants." Regards, Terry Note: The contents of the posts on FlaxSeedOil2 are purely educational and are not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctor about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT HYPERLINK " here HYPERLINK " _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: HYPERLINK " * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HYPERLINK "mailto:FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@...?subject=Unsubscribe"FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@... * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the HYPERLINK "! Terms of Service. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Este email esta libre de virus! Checked by AVG anti-virus system (). Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 8/6/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Este email esta libre de virus! Checked by AVG anti-virus system (). Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 8/6/2004 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Re: Curcumin Source
Alex Torres
Dear Terry and Ksenjia,
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With 10 dollars you can get un kilo (1000 grams or approximately 1300 capsules) of curcumin. Black Pepper cost 5 dollars enough for 1000 capsules and one number 3 capsules box with 1000 empty capsules cost 12 dollars. Make your homework� that抯 the reason we are making our own curcumin. We cannot afford to make rich some health food companies� Alex Torres M.D. www.geocities.com/compu_dr/ -----Original Message-----
From: Ksenija oberlander [mailto:ksenija_oberlander@...] Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 4:55 PM To: FlaxSeedOil2@... Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Curcumin Source Ed This is indeed a good price. Have you been taking this prfoduct and are you toleratling it well? Ksenjia steeleglas@... wrote: I purchase curcumin from www.swansonvitamins.com. I bottle of 60 caps each with 900mg plus bioperine costs $11.39. Ed Brenner Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2004 20:17:02 -0000 From: "dazmolikeit" <slickpicker@...> Subject: Curcumin and food --- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Alex Torres" <atorres@d...> wrote: Dear Terry, Curcumin is quite aggressive with the esophagus and the gastriclinen and I recommend to my patients to ingest it with food and somecalcium carbonate. Hi Alex: Thanks much for your prompt reply. Life Extension also recommends taking their product with food. The reason I asked relates to the following I saw on a physician's site who advocates hormone blockade along with certain complementary supplements: "The owner of the company that makes this product recommends that men with prostate cancer be treated with two capsules three times per day on an empty stomach, although the literature that I received recommended taking it with a heavy meal. The owner of the company is aware of this, and states that the recommendation to take it with food is not correct, that it should be taken on an empty stomach. The good news is that it is inexpensive; 60 capsules cost only about $15.00. The product can be ordered by calling (888) 852-4993. The name of the company is Natural Health Consultants." Regards, Terry Note: The contents of the posts on FlaxSeedOil2 are purely educational and are not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctor about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems. Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: HYPERLINK " up/FlaxSeedOil2/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Note: The contents of the posts on FlaxSeedOil2 are purely educational and are not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctor about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT HYPERLINK " D=grphealth/S=1705061620:HM/EXP=1092095676/A=2164331/R=0/SIG=11eaelai9/* http:/www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60183351"click here HYPERLINK " alth/S=:HM/A=2164331/rand=928572758" _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: HYPERLINK " up/FlaxSeedOil2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HYPERLINK "mailto:FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@...?subject=Unsubscribe"Fla xSeedOil2-unsubscribe@... * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the HYPERLINK "! Terms of Service. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Este email esta libre de virus! Checked by AVG anti-virus system (). Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 8/6/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Este email esta libre de virus! Checked by AVG anti-virus system (). Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 8/6/2004 |
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Re: Lorrain Day MD Surgeon and cancer survivor
Alex Torres
Dear Barb,
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Please buy those books and videos� you will have a different approach about your cancer ( AIDS, and Prions too) knowledge. Alex Torres M.D. www.geocities.com/compu_dr/ -----Original Message-----
From: Barb [mailto:barb1283@...] Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 4:57 PM To: cc; fso; candidiasis Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Lorrain Day MD Surgeon and cancer survivor Has anyone read her books and think they are worth purchasing? This is an Orthopedia Surgeon from San Francisco that healed herself from advanced cancer without chemo or radiation, but with alternative therapy, of improving the immune system through diet, light exercise, sunshine and cleansing. I saw her on television not long ago. She has pictures of her breast tumor. It was so large you could see it easily. She did not have a mastectomy but had some of the lump removed since it 'stuck out' but didn't remove the whole thing. She said traditional cancer treatment is like blowing up a house with a bomb in order to kill the roaches in it. Roaches are gone but so is house. You might find her interesting since she is a doctor and not just scientist or lay person. She wrote some books on healing and on her experience and has a website too. HYPERLINK " __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! HYPERLINK " il Note: The contents of the posts on FlaxSeedOil2 are purely educational and are not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctor about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT HYPERLINK " D=grphealth/S=1705061620:HM/EXP=1092182221/A=2164331/R=0/SIG=11eaelai9/* http:/www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60183351"click here HYPERLINK " alth/S=:HM/A=2164331/rand=566622552" _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: HYPERLINK " up/FlaxSeedOil2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: HYPERLINK "mailto:FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@...?subject=Unsubscribe"Fla xSeedOil2-unsubscribe@... * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the HYPERLINK "! Terms of Service. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Este email esta libre de virus! Checked by AVG anti-virus system (). Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 8/6/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Este email esta libre de virus! Checked by AVG anti-virus system (). Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 8/6/2004 |
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Re: help on lymph nodes
Wilhelm Hansen
Rich,
Show your sister the testimonials in our files. They are listed by type of cancer or location of the tumor, i.e. Breast Cancer and Non Hodgkin's for lymph nodes. You will also find other info on the Budwig method there. Good for you that you have your sister started on fo/cc. What about freshly ground flaxseeds and the rest of the Budwig Protocol? What about Eldi Oils. You will find all of that in our files. Wilhelm my sister just found out she has breast cancer.the doc. told her he wants to take out the lymph node that has cancer.he wants her to decide if she want them all taken out. what do they do for you.i have her started on fo/cc.i need all the help i can get .some people are hard to get to belive in something they havent heard of before......thanks rich. |
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Re: OT---swelling and weakness in arm after blood test--help p...
Wilhelm Hansen
It would not work instantaneously, you have to digest and absorb it first, but depending on how much you eat, I would expect rather quick results.
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I don't know what the swelling in your arm is about, if the pills give you that quick remedy, fine but I would wean myself off them and make a gradual switch to natural food. To get an idea what 100 gram of food contain... Kale or Swiss Chard contain about 800 mcg vit.K, Parsley 500 mcg, Brussels Sprouts or Spinach 400 mcg, Broccoli, Endive, deep green Lettuce 250 mcg, etc. Compare that to the level in your pills, and keep in mind that natural is better quality and one would likely require less for the same effect. Wilhelm ----- Original Message -----
From: oohthisloveis To: FlaxSeedOil2@... Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 7:27 PM Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: OT---swelling and weakness in arm after blood test--help p... thanks for your advice. I'm just looking for a quick remedy because my arm is kind of swollen. I called my doctor and they said to put ice on it. Will the Kale help blood clotting instantaneously? |
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Re: OT---swelling and weakness in arm after blood test--help p...
Wilhelm Hansen
BarbF,
Rick Muenzer used to post informative messages on vitamin K. You will find them in the archives if you are interested, but there are many good websites on it too. The reason I said to get it from deep green vegetables rather than from pills has a number of reasons. It is always better to get your nutrients from food. For instance you can overdose on vitamin K pills (I am going by memory now) and not on vit.K from foods. Fresh organic green vegetables give you a world of other goodies. The osteoporosis that you want to guard against with your pills is also guarded against with foods. And in addition you are getting high quality calcium/magnesium and other minerals with it. If you consider the very high level of vit.K in Kale for example, as well as the minerals, vit. A,B,C, etc. you would wonder why pills instead of food? In any case, if you do the Budwig Diet, you have to get away from thinking pills and switch to natural. It is VERY IMPORTANT. Every bit helps. Best to you, Wilhelm What you need is vitamin K which is the natural blood clotting agent. GetWilhelm...I take a vitamin K supplement as well as lots of green vegies as you suggest. I am curious as to why you suggest to avoid vitamin K pills. I take it mostly for bone health -- am on Arimidex, which pretty much shuts down estrogen production and am trying to avoid osteporosis (sp?). Take care, BarbF |
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Re: help on lymph nodes
rickmuenzer
Hi Rich
I remember reading that lymph nodes themselves can't be cancerous just as cancer of the heart is impossible. The lymph system is an important part of the immune system that helps evacuate toxins. Get the doctors to make the claim that lymph glands themselves can have cancer and not just contain the cancer passing through the lymph system. See if they truly know and then ask them if heart cancer is possible. It's their livelyhood and you might be seen as a threat to their income. Almost for certain your sister will do what they say because taking responsibility for ones own health is hard to do and very scary thanks to 'doctors coachings'. Best Luck Rick --- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., richryan46@a... wrote: my sister just found out she has breast cancer.the doc. told her hewants to take out the lymph node that has cancer.he wants her to decide ifshe want them all taken out. what do they do for you.i have her started onfo/cc.i need all the help i can get .some people are hard to get to belivein something they havent heard of before......thanks rich. |
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Re: OT---swelling and weakness in arm after blood test--help please
Cliff Beckwith
On Monday 09 August 2004 06:03 pm, oohthisloveis wrote:
Hey guys I was wondering if you guys ever experienced this. I had a* FlaxSeedOil is a mild blood thinner. I have had "bruise marks" different times from blood draws. The higher the amount of flax oil used the more likely to have such marks. Cliff |
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Lorrain Day MD Surgeon and cancer survivor
Barb
Has anyone read her books and think they are
worth purchasing? This is an Orthopedia Surgeon from San Francisco that healed herself from advanced cancer without chemo or radiation, but with alternative therapy, of improving the immune system through diet, light exercise, sunshine and cleansing. I saw her on television not long ago. She has pictures of her breast tumor. It was so large you could see it easily. She did not have a mastectomy but had some of the lump removed since it 'stuck out' but didn't remove the whole thing. She said traditional cancer treatment is like blowing up a house with a bomb in order to kill the roaches in it. Roaches are gone but so is house. You might find her interesting since she is a doctor and not just scientist or lay person. She wrote some books on healing and on her experience and has a website too. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! |
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Re: OT---swelling and weakness in arm after blood test--help please
oohthisloveis
no but I'm taking Pau d'arco tea too. This tea is also known to be a
blood thinner. I'm going to go get some vit k right now --- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Wilhelm Hansen" <wilhelmh@t...> wrote: Yes, FO thins the blood somewhat. That should not be a seriousmatter unless you are on blood thinning medication. In that case you should make allownaces for it. agent. Get it from deep green vegetables, especially Swiss Chard and Kale - not from pills. See this link for more information on the foods containing it: There are many more informative sites. Just do a search. blood test--help please had a blood test done a week ago and noticed that the area in the armkind of weak too. |
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Re: OT---swelling and weakness in arm after blood test--help please
Wilhelm Hansen
Yes, FO thins the blood somewhat. That should not be a serious matter unless you are on blood thinning medication. In that case you should make allownaces for it.
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What you need is vitamin K which is the natural blood clotting agent. Get it from deep green vegetables, especially Swiss Chard and Kale - not from pills. See this link for more information on the foods containing it: There are many more informative sites. Just do a search. Wilhelm ----- Original Message -----
From: oohthisloveis To: FlaxSeedOil2@... Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 3:03 PM Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] OT---swelling and weakness in arm after blood test--help please Hey guys I was wondering if you guys ever experienced this. I had a blood test done a week ago and noticed that the area in the arm around the vein is bruised and has some swelling. My arm feels kind of weak too. I wonder if my blood isn't clotting right or something. Does the fo/cc cause the blood to thin? Any ideas? |
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OT---swelling and weakness in arm after blood test--help please
oohthisloveis
Hey guys I was wondering if you guys ever experienced this. I had a
blood test done a week ago and noticed that the area in the arm around the vein is bruised and has some swelling. My arm feels kind of weak too. I wonder if my blood isn't clotting right or something. Does the fo/cc cause the blood to thin? Any ideas? |
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Re: Candida again
Free Minded
ThreeLac for Candida
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Re: OT---swelling and weakness in arm after blood test--help p...
In a message dated 8/9/2004 7:11:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
wilhelmh@... writes: What you need is vitamin K which is the natural blood clotting agent. GetWilhelm...I take a vitamin K supplement as well as lots of green vegies as you suggest. I am curious as to why you suggest to avoid vitamin K pills. I take it mostly for bone health -- am on Arimidex, which pretty much shuts down estrogen production and am trying to avoid osteporosis (sp?). Take care, BarbF |
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Jerry Mittelman
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