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Ulla, I believe you're right...what IF something as innocuous as flax and cottage cheese actually heals people? Oncologist: "Yikes! I'd be out of a job and my 18 years of schooling would be worth a whole lot less than it is now."

Enough for cynicism. I read the web page you posted, and found this:

As Dr Willner, M.D., Ph.D. (The Cancer Solution) writes, "Numerous, independent clinical studies published in major medical journals world-wide confirm Dr. Budwig's findings..Over 40 years ago Dr Budwig presented clear and convincing evidence, which has been confirmed by hundreds of other related scientific research papers since, that the essential fatty acids were at the core of the answer to the cancer problem.

This is quite a claim by Dr. Willner. Where are these "numerous studies published in major medical journals and confirmed by hundreds of other research papers?"

Is there even ONE clinical study (the definition of a clinical study is one that uses human beings, not animals) that confirms the Budwig Protocol? I'll take even one.

Does anyone know anything about the anti-VIRAL aspect of the Budwig Diet? Since viruses are held in the body at the cellular level, wouldn't the interaction of sulphur/EFA attack viruses (AIDS, herpes, etc.) as it does cancer cells?

Flo,

May I ask whether your son is on strict Budwig's diet
protocol or just fo/cc?

Thanks,
-yang
--- flo_webber <flo-webber@...> wrote:

Hi group:
I just wanted to tell everyone about my son who has
arthritis in his
spine. He has suffered for the last twelve years.
Some days he can
hardly walk. His joints are so painful that it keeps
him awake at
night and to do any kind of work is almost
impossible. After he saw
how well my husband Scott was doing on the Budwig
diet. He
decided to try the flaxseed oil to see if it would
help him. He has
been on the oil for three and a half months now. He
can't believe
the difference. His pain has all but gone away, his
energy is better
than it has been for years. He is out in the yard
cutting the lawns,
painting the inside of the house. He says I just
can't believe this,
I haven't been pain free in twelve years, and I now
feel like a new
man. He has been on medication for all these years
and he is now
going to the doctor to see if he can wean off the
pills. He used to
be very pale and now he has color and looks about
ten years younger.
He also walks straighter. As far as he is concerned
there is nothing
in the world like flaxseed oil and he said that he
will take it for
the rest of his life. Being his mom I couldn't be
happier.
Thank-you Dr. Budwig you are an Angel. Even from
heaven you are
still carring on your work.
God Bless You.
Flo

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Yes, this is true...I never placed much credence in it b/c early on in my
cancer searched I went to andrew weil's website and he says to take with a grain
of salt all her nominations because you can nominate youself. However, it
hasnt made a particle bit of difference in my opinion of the Budwig
protocol...which I hope and believe is a very worthwhile, helpful treatment.
Liz

Group,
I live in So. IN. and would be interested in discussing the
possibility of sharing an order of Eldi oils. Please contact me
directly. If Paul sees this, would you send me a copy of the latest
price list.
Thanks,
Nelson

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Wilhelm Hansen" <wilhelmh@t...>
wrote:

Hi Phinneas,

I will try to answer your questions as good as I can.

Am I also right in assuming that to apply pure FO to the body,

may not be the best of ideas? Or, could that be an acceptable
practice? What about using pure cold-pressed coconut oil?
Any ideas on that will be appreciated.

FO is an alternative but it is not as good as Eldi Oils. Had it

been, Dr.Budwig would not have gone through the trouble of developing
them. If I were to use FO, I would use the same method of application
as given for Eldi Oil "R" in our files.

Coconut oil is not an alternative for Eldi Oil as it is mainly

saturated fat.

As you wrote, ordering from over-seas adds a very large

cost to buying Eldi Oils, and most of us are not exactly rich. :-

)

I know

Wilhelm, simply for the sake of economy, do you think that

for making up one's own variation of Eldi Oil for skin application,
could it be possible for you or others on this forum to help
to work out suitable ratios of suitable oils, and to pass that
information on to one and all of us? I know it is a big "ask",
but I am sure many of us would be very grateful for that.

I don't know the formula of the Eldi Oils. It is proprietary. I

know that two of the oils used are FO and wheat germ oil but I don't
know the proportion and I don't know if there are any other
ingredients/oils. Just because none are listed does not necessarily
mean that none are included. Since they are only for external use, I
tend to believe that there are other ingredients in it as well.

If you would want to add some wheat germ oil to your FO and try to

approximate Eldi Oil that way, that is up to you. I see no harm in
that if the wheat germ oil is pure, cold pressed and not adulterated
in any way. I would not want to speculate on the formula though.

One thing you could do, is try to find someone from this group who

lives nearby and then share the cost of two bottles. That has been
attempted before.

Wilhelm



----- Original Message -----
From: Phinneas
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 4:46 AM
Subject: QUESTIONS Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Eldi Oils versus other

Omega 3

-----Original Message-----
From: Wilhelm Hansen <wilhelmh@t...>
To: FlaxSeedOil2@... <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Date: Thursday, August 12, 2004 1:54 AM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Eldi Oils versus other Omega 3


Hello Wilhelm, I wonder if you and others with knowledge
can possibly help with questions about Eldi Oils and Flax
Seed oil.

But, before my questions: --- you wrote:
>Grape seed and sesame oils are NO substitute for
>Eldi Oils. They have a completely different make-up
> and will not give you the same results. ***Since they are
>high in omega-6 they may even be counter productive
> to the healing process.*** ...
>...
> ... >The cost of Eldi Oils is actually not that high - it is
>bumped up because of the high cost of shipping.
>The $100 figure you are quoting includes shipping
>and is for 2 bottles. ...

You quoted -- From: rickmuenzer
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 9:54 AM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Good Review

>>>> 9. ... A lack or deficiency of
Omega 3 will result in a lack or deficiency of PG3s.
***The ratio of Omega 6 to Omega 3 is also crucial,
as excess Omega 6 as compared to Omega 3 promotes
tumor formation.***

Research suggests that the ratio of Omega 6 to Omega 3
should be no greater than 5:1. A typical ratio in most
people's diets is in excess of 20:1.

...11. In the November 1986 Journal of the National Cancer

Institute

research indicated that Omega 3 and one of its derivatives as well
as three of the derivatives of Omega 6 were seen to selectively
destroy human cancer cells in tissue culture without damaging
normal cells ... >>>>
~~~

From the above, obviously there are risks of causing more
damage than good by blindly using any old oil mixture.

Am I also right in assuming that to apply pure FO to the body,
may not be the best of ideas? Or, could that be an acceptable
practice? What about using pure cold-pressed coconut oil?
Any ideas on that will be appreciated.

As you wrote, ordering from over-seas adds a very large
cost to buying Eldi Oils, and most of us are not exactly

rich. :-)

Wilhelm, simply for the sake of economy, do you think that
for making up one's own variation of Eldi Oil for skin

application,

could it be possible for you or others on this forum to help
to work out suitable ratios of suitable oils, and to pass that
information on to one and all of us? I know it is a big "ask",
but I am sure many of us would be very grateful for that.

Sincerely,
Phinneas

Flo,

Did you explain to him that this is FOOD, only food and he should start eating properly right away. He cannot wait, it takes a while for food to help and from what I can understand, it is better to start it right away.

If you check it, you don't wait to clean a wound as it would be more infected if you do, well for the diet it is about the same. You do it as fast as possible to maximize your chances.

Diane









----Original Message Follows----
From: "flo_webber" <flo-webber@...>
Reply-To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Clinical trial??
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 06:49:22 -0000

Hi Group:
A very close friend of ours has been fighting pc for the last
thirteen years. Recently he developed a large lump on his upper arm
and when they did a biopsy, it showed that it was cancer. He has
been picked for a new clinical trail of a new drug that is supposed
to stop the cancer cells from dividing. He has to be on this drug
for twenty-eight days. Because of the drug they did all kinds of
tests and found cancer in his liver and lymph nodes as well. Before
all this happened we tryed to talk him into the Budwig diet, to no
avail. He told us yesterday that if the new drug doesn't work he
will try the diet.(I know people are funny that way) Anyway my
questions are, does anyone know anything about this new drug? Or
does anyone know someone that is trying this drug? If the drug
doesn't work for him will it be too late for the Budwig diet because
of the drug? Any information would be much appreciated. Thank-you in
advance.
Great Health to All
Flo

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you wrote:

For cryin' out loud, what is WRONG with people?! Why doesn't he do both?! If there's even a snowball's chance in Hell (we know better) that the Diet works, why would he not eat a friggin' smoothie every day?

because it's DANGEROUS!!! You just never know!!!!!!!

When my brother's wife to whom I had given natural Vitamin E for preventative purposes, particularly for my brother's heart (my father died at 47 of a heart attack leaving us five children between 9 months and 8 3/4 years, I was 2) told me in all earnest that she didn't take them since "one didn't know what the long-term effect would be", I nearly fell to the floor with stupefaction. I realised where she got this great wisdom from: her doctor had warned her!!!!!! I am sure the same doctor will daily give out drugs whose side-effects are KNOWN to kill people every day...

Thus is the sad game of people implicitly and innocently trusting in authority and those who wield it detrimentally by not opening their horizon further than their narrow education...

...and forgive me my little satirical intro above...

Ulla

as mentioned you can read a summary of thoughts on "Why even very ill and suffering people - in spite of mainstream therapy failing to help them - may ridicule, reject, and attack medical alternatives in cancer treatment" which addresses many points likely to play a role in such attitudes at www.healingcancernaturally.com/why_alternatives4.html ...

Hi group:
I just wanted to tell everyone about my son who has arthritis in his
spine. He has suffered for the last twelve years. Some days he can
hardly walk. His joints are so painful that it keeps him awake at
night and to do any kind of work is almost impossible. After he saw
how well my husband Scott was doing on the Budwig diet. He
decided to try the flaxseed oil to see if it would help him. He has
been on the oil for three and a half months now. He can't believe
the difference. His pain has all but gone away, his energy is better
than it has been for years. He is out in the yard cutting the lawns,
painting the inside of the house. He says I just can't believe this,
I haven't been pain free in twelve years, and I now feel like a new
man. He has been on medication for all these years and he is now
going to the doctor to see if he can wean off the pills. He used to
be very pale and now he has color and looks about ten years younger.
He also walks straighter. As far as he is concerned there is nothing
in the world like flaxseed oil and he said that he will take it for
the rest of his life. Being his mom I couldn't be happier.
Thank-you Dr. Budwig you are an Angel. Even from heaven you are
still carring on your work.
God Bless You.
Flo

For cryin' out loud, what is WRONG with people?! Why doesn't he do both?! If there's even a snowball's chance in Hell (we know better) that the Diet works, why would he not eat a friggin' smoothie every day?

Please, 'splain it to me like I'm a two-year-old!

Hi Group:
A very close friend of ours has been fighting pc for the last
thirteen years. Recently he developed a large lump on his upper arm
and when they did a biopsy, it showed that it was cancer. He has
been picked for a new clinical trail of a new drug that is supposed
to stop the cancer cells from dividing. He has to be on this drug
for twenty-eight days. Because of the drug they did all kinds of
tests and found cancer in his liver and lymph nodes as well. Before
all this happened we tryed to talk him into the Budwig diet, to no
avail. He told us yesterday that if the new drug doesn't work he
will try the diet.(I know people are funny that way) Anyway my
questions are, does anyone know anything about this new drug? Or
does anyone know someone that is trying this drug? If the drug
doesn't work for him will it be too late for the Budwig diet because
of the drug? Any information would be much appreciated. Thank-you in
advance.
Great Health to All
Flo

Dr. Budwig, what's with the cottage cheese?!

How do you think this impacts the use of dairy in the Budwig Diet?

Hormones in Milk Are Linked to Cancer


Milk: Does it do a body good or not?

I can only answer for myself. For me it is a meal. Either it is breakfast with fruit and nuts or it is a salad dressing with a big salad.
Rhoda

Here is a good page to read on why your urine turns colors.



Bori

glogan <glogan@...> wrote:
Barb........... just remember Beets are a great cleanser for the liver and the bowels, and the colour that goes in is the the colour that will come out, so if you dont mind deep red stools eat all you can handle, I know that when I'm juicing if I cut a small slice off of a beet it will still make the colour go deep red, this will be helpful with the Liver cleanse, if you want to clean out the bowel cut a larger piece of the beet, Beets are also good for the blood....

Gerry Logan

Quackbusters Accused of "Racketeering" (RICO) in Colorado...

Opinion by Consumer Advocate Tim Bolen

Thursday, August 12th, 2004



It happened today.

Delicensed MD Stephen Barrett, his dubious website "quackwatch.com,"
Bobbie Baratz, the National Council Against Health Fraud (NCAHF), and
a big chunk of the organized quackbuster conspiracy got themselves
sued, in Colorado, for "were and are each employed or associated with
an enterprise, and participated and participates in the conduct of
the enterprise affairs through a pattern of racketeering activity in
violation of 18 USAC1962(c) and C.R.S. 18-17-104(3). Said pattern of
activity included and includes, but was and is not limited to, the
preparation, publication, dissemination and transmittal of
information by US Mail and by wire through internet websites by wire
and other media which falsely represented the Plaintiff's product and
technology, constituting a violation of 18 USC 1341, 1343, 1347 and
1349, and CRS 18-17-103(5)(a)..."

There IS a God...

According to the lawsuit, the Plaintiffs, CAVITAT Medical
Technologies, Inc, and Robert J. Jones are suing the Defendants,
Aetna, Quackwatch, NCAHF, Barrett, Baratz, Dodes, and Schissell on
FIVE counts "(1) Publication of an Injurious Falsehood, (2) Tortious
interference with a Prospective Business Advantage, (3) Negligent
interference with a Prospective Business Advantage, (4) Interference
with contract or prospective Contractual Relation, (5) Federal and
State RICO (18USCA 1961 et seq. and C.R.S. 18-17-104)."

I have a copy of the lawsuit on my desk (12 pages), and I LOVE the
way it reads. I've put a copy on my website. It's a model, as far
as I'm concerned, of the way a hundred other lawsuits should be filed
against the quackbusters, all over North America.

Basically, the lawsuit complains that Bob Jones invented a device
called CAVITAT which easily finds cavitations in the mouth long
before an x-ray can, got it properly approved by the FDA, started
selling it all over North America, only to have the quackbuster scum
bad-mouth it. Aetna Insurance picked up the quackbuster's
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treatment based upon results of its findings. The quackbusters that
wrote the report (Dodes and Schissell) claim to have a dental clinic
in Forest Hills, New York. They are the mainstay writers for
Barrett's dubious "dentalwatch.com" website. Dodes and Schissell
have very questionable credentials.

Scientist Bernard Windham probably explains best why the quackbusters
are so eager to kill CAVITAT for their paymasters. Windham
says "Cavitations are diseased areas in bone under teeth or extracted
teeth usually caused by lack of adequate blood supply to the area.
Tests by special equipment (Cavitat) found cavitations in over 90% of
areas under root canals or extracted wisdom teeth that have been
tested, and toxins such as anerobic bacteria and other toxics which
significantly inhibit body enzymatic processes in virtually all
cavitations. These toxins have been found to have serious systemic
health effects in many cases, and significant health problems to be
related such as arthritis, MCS, and CFS. These have been found to be
factors along with amalgam in serious chronic conditions such as MS,
ALS, Alzheimer's, MCS, CFS, etc.. The problem occurs in extractions
that are not cleaned out properly after extraction.

Up until now, the quackbusters have been mostly defeated when they
attacked one of America's health heroes, But this case joins the new
breed - the offensive against those determined to withhold good
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I won't be truly happy until I see, on the nightly TV news, the
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Barb........... just remember Beets are a great cleanser for the liver and the bowels, and the colour that goes in is the the colour that will come out, so if you dont mind deep red stools eat all you can handle, I know that when I'm juicing if I cut a small slice off of a beet it will still make the colour go deep red, this will be helpful with the Liver cleanse, if you want to clean out the bowel cut a larger piece of the beet, Beets are also good for the blood....

Gerry Logan

Barb,

Because the eggplant soak up much oil, I use coconut oil for this as it is a nice way to eat more coconut oil.

Diane









----Original Message Follows----
From: Barb <barb1283@...>
Reply-To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
To: fso <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: cooking with flaxseed oil
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 10:06:46 -0700 (PDT)

Can you cook with flaxseed oil or would coconut
or some other oil be better? I sautee eggplant
frequently and eggplants soaks up lots of oil
when it cooks.
Barb



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My niece loved to eat beets when she was young 3 - 8 years old. My sister realized early on that whenever her daughter ate a large amount of beets that the girls urine would turn first orange and then
red from the beets. No problem with this. Beets are a great food for stimulating bile production which helps to clear the blood of oil soluble toxins.


Barb wrote:

How about this quote from 1952 as given in Dr.Budwig's 1977 book "Der Tod des Tumors - Band II" (The Death of the Tumor -Vol.II) page 150:

"The substances that are contained in the SH-group have often been used with varied success. This significant sulfhydryl group is found in Detoxin, in Insulin, in Pancreatic Secretions, especially in Methionine which is converted in the organism to Cysteine. The often good success with essential fatty acids for the same indications and the significance of the often discussed "lipotropic effects" of the essential amino acids, brought me to the realization that only through interaction of the essential amino acids and the essential fatty acids can the physiological significance of these substances fully evolve."

Wilhelm

yang,
fo/cc is always be part of your meal. In some cases it is the main component of your meal like in Muesli. See our files under "Foods".

Wilhelm