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Re: breast cancer and soy products

Carolyn J. Kreibich
 

radjfarkas wrote:

I am now a vegan and wondered how much flax oil
should go into soymilk? Or could I mix it soy yoghurt

My oncologist told me to stay away from soy. He even said to check my vitamins to make sure they did not have any soy in them.

Carolyn


Re: Beads in the mixture

Delano Eaton
 

I don't understand. Is it the color that the grape juice provides that
helps you to see the oil better? My mix also has no beads after I have
added fruit, F seeds etc and will stay that way in the fridge for as
much as a few hours (that is all the longer I have let it sit). I
personally would not add any juice that has not been fresh squeezed.
Is your grape juice pasturized?

Del

Cheryl du Toit wrote:
Dear group,

When people first come to me asking for help with their mixture and
how they
will know if it is mixed properly I advise them to make the fo/cc
mixture
(2tbl spoons oil with 4 tbl spoons cc for starters), and after
mixing add
1/2 cup diluted grape juice to the mixture. If there is oil visible
on the
surface, it is very clear that the mixture is not water soluble. There
should be no oil on the surface of this mixture. The grape juice can be
replaced with carrot juice etc. - it tastes great and is a sure way
to find
out if your mixture is water soluble.

An easy way for people starting out to make sure that they are doing it
correctly.

Best wishes
Cheryl

-------Original Message-------

From: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Date: 11 July 2004 08:30:29 PM
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Beads in the mixture


Are we really sure we need to mix to point of no beads with magnifying
glass?

Dr.Budwig was clear about mixing the fo/cc until it was a smooth
cream and
there was no oil visible anymore. The part with the magnifying glass
only
came up in connection with unstrained yogurt when I made a closer
inspection
of the mixture. It was not a suggestion to use a magnifying glass in the
daily routine of mixing fo/cc.

You are beating the hell out of the protein in the dairy product.
You don't need to "beat the hell out of the dairy product" if you
use quark.
It makes the FO water soluble quickly because it has the required
protein
concentration.

It seems odd that discoverer of this method is German and we need
to go
get a German product to reproduce it.

You don't need to reproduce it, you can use cottage cheese which is
similar
in protein concentration - or you can make yogurt quark.

I think quark sounds like something common in Germany and
therefore was
used but any dairy product with high sulfur dairy protein should do.

I have read (cannot remember where) that Dr.Budwig's research that
culminated into her Oil-Protein Diet began by using FO with skim
milk. She
must have found it unsatisfactory because she quickly switched to
low fat
quark. It is not a question of "any dairy with high sulfur will do". The
required nutrients are sulphur bearing proteins and it depends on
how much
of them are present and how concentrated they are. The point is
optimization
That was the purpose of our recent discussions on this topic - not what
dairy product "should do". That may not be good enough.

What next we all speak German while using the protocol?
No comment

Wilhelm



----- Original Message -----
From: Barb
To: Flaxseed
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 2:42 PM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Beads in the mixture


Are we really sure we need to mix to point of no
beads with magnifying glass? You are beating the
hell out of the protein in the dairy product.
It seems odd that discoverer of this method is
German and we need to go get a German product to
reproduce it. I think quark sounds like
something common in Germany and therefore was
used but any dairy product with high sulfur dairy
protein should do. What next we all speak German
while using the protocol?





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Re: daily volume fo/cc

oohthisloveis
 

check the files section to your left. You should find all the info
you need there.


Lignans or not??

Barb
 

The Barleans come with high lignans, Ultra
lignans and no lignans (I think). Which is
better? Is it just a matter of personal preference?



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Cheryl: mixing it with juice

Barb
 

Great idea Cheryl. That makes perfect sense. If
you mixed it enough to be water soluable, it
should dissolve in water! Of course. Thanks!!



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Re: Chlorure de magnesium---Very OT

breathedeepnow
 

"Chlorure de Magnesium" is plain old magnesium chloride. If you do an
internet search under "Chlorure de Magnesium" or under "Magnesium
Chloride," you will come up with sites claiming all sorts of things.

I have seen magnesium chloride recommended for help with getting to
sleep, and I have seen it recommended for benign hypertrophy of the
prostate. I also understand that it can cause diarrhea if one takes
too much.

It appears a bit simplistic to me that plain old magnesium chloride
would have all kinds of "miraculous" health claims attached to it.

However, people who suffer from health problems because of getting
insufficient magnesium apparently can benefit greatly from taking
supplemental magnesium chloride. I'm not at all sure how one
determines whether one's body is low on magnesium, however....

Also, I think perhaps one might want to go with magnesium citrate, or
with chelated magnesium, rather than with magnesium choride, for
better absorption. Not sure.

Best wishes,

Elliot


daily volume fo/cc

 

Can anyone please tell me the proper volume of fo/cc to take. Is there a
min or max daily amount ?

Thanks
MJM


Chlorure de magnesium

freeminded52
 

Is there anyone that knows this product and how is it recommend to
be used. Would using it three times a day in grape juice be of any
help?

I was told that this would help, just want to know exactly what are
the help I am going to get from using this?

Thank you,

Diane
Diane


Re: Oleolox

freeminded52
 

Boricura,

Just remember that the oil has to cool down before mixing it with
the flaxoil as we know it is quite sensitive to heat.
Diane


- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., Boricua <workboricua@y...> wrote:
I have got to try this... everyone is making me curious.

Boricua

Rhoda Freed <RHODAF@G...> wrote:
Del,

I strained the onion and garlic and then added it to the flaxseed
oil from the freezer. I add salt when I use it. Can't imagine that
it doesn't taste good.

I put the oil in the freezer for 15 minutes before starting the
cooking process. When I combine then the oil has been in for 30
minutes. The hot oil melts the frozen FO.

I scrape some and put on bread or potatoes etc.

Don't use this one for the candy. I just poured the FO and coconut
oil together straight for that.
Rhoda

----- Original Message -----
From: Delano Eaton
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 10:55 AM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Oleolox


I made Oleolox for the first time last night. I started off with
the
f health problems.


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Just in

Cliff Beckwith
 

Cliff, I just spoke with my dear friend Mary Jo Baird and she asked me
to relay a message to you. ?A year and half ago doctors found cancer
cells in her urine. ?She started on your flax oil regime immediately. ?6
months later, the number of cancer cells was greatly decreased. ?The
last test, even though she had numerous other health issues, showed zero
cancer cells. ?She attributes it to the flax oil. ?She had been taking 2
T. per day religiously. ?She now is maintaining with 1 T per day.

I knew that you would want to hear one more example that flax does
work.... now why can't the medical profession admit it?!?!

Marie


Re: Oleolox candy

 

Thanks Del.
My brother in law died suddenly and had to leave for a few days.
Rhoda




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Re: Best Brands to buy and beads of FO

Delano Eaton
 

Talking about CC brands...I finally got my HFS to order some of
"Nancy's" lowfat CC (one that has been recommended here) and today
made the mix with it instead of Kefir. I used the elec hand mixer to
mix the oil, CC and a little raw milk. I have to say when I examined
it with the magnifing glass, it looked just like my mix using the
kefir (with minute beads of oil, hard to see with the naked eye)!
After I add the freshly ground Flax seeds and honey, I no longer see
the beads as the same with the kefir. Also I liked the taste while
eating it (I also added honey, nutritional yeast, berries and nuts)
but it left an after taste in my mouth and also gave me diarrhea for
the day! I am okay now.

Del


Re: Oleolox candy

Delano Eaton
 

Acturally, mine doesn't last that long, either. I just said that for
those that have more self control so they would know how long it COULD
last. Glad you got a laugh out of it. Your laughter put a smile on my
face!
Del
P.S. Missed you for awhile around here, Rhoda, hope you are feeling okay.

"Rhoda Freed" wrote:
HAHAHA. That is you. It doesn't last that long with me. Glad you
liked it that way. Will try the raisins etc next time.
Rhoda







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breast cancer

radjfarkas
 

thank-you for your responses. Its great to have so much support. I
have also emailed Dr. Budwig (nephew) to ask a question which i'm not
sure if any of you are qualified to answer. The question is, because
the cancer is oestrogen sensitive it was advised by 3 doctors, 2
naturopaths and a book by Jane PLant 'Your Life in Your Hands' that
dairy products contain IGFI and IGFII (insulin growth factor)that the
cancer feeds on. Interestingly although this has been documented
throughout the scientific world it is not routine to test for these
growth factors in malignant cells. Now, my doctor said even if the
dairy is organically sourced the gowth factors will still be there ,
but not as high a rate as those of the cows fed rGBH. In Australia
its used as extensively (I think). So the question is does the
benefit of the cottage cheese with flax oil outweigh the possibility
of growth hormones to take hold? You have emailed me that the protein
in the soy was inferior to the one in the CC. Look foward to hearing
from you


Re: Oleolox

 

I have got to try this... everyone is making me curious.

Boricua

Rhoda Freed <RHODAF@...> wrote:
Del,

I strained the onion and garlic and then added it to the flaxseed oil from the freezer. I add salt when I use it. Can't imagine that it doesn't taste good.

I put the oil in the freezer for 15 minutes before starting the cooking process. When I combine then the oil has been in for 30 minutes. The hot oil melts the frozen FO.

I scrape some and put on bread or potatoes etc.

Don't use this one for the candy. I just poured the FO and coconut oil together straight for that.
Rhoda

----- Original Message -----
From: Delano Eaton
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 10:55 AM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Oleolox


I made Oleolox for the first time last night. I started off with the
f health problems.


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Re: Good Review

rickmuenzer
 

Great Point Wilhelm

Also thinking of how staph aurous keeps 'evolving' ahead of medicine =
it seems more like the bodys (or higher intelligence) evolves germs
for a housekeeping function. Rather than germs being a cause they are
only 'made' in an attempt to clean up the pollution mess. So Budwig's
protocol deals with causes and germs are secondary.

Rick

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Wilhelm Hansen" <wilhelmh@t...>
wrote:
Nice review Rick.

It is interesting to note that in point 7 where he says "EFAs,
particularly Omega 3, have been shown to decrease growth of cancer
cells, candida, and various anaerobic organisms destructive to human
health of the body." he includes "anaerobic organisms".

Looking at this in connection with point 12 which ends with these
words "...she found that within three months the yellow-green was
replaced by red and the cancer disappeared", reminds me of what
Dr.Budwig says in her book "Das Fettsyndrom" (The Fat Syndrome) p.82.

She says that she observed micro-organisms in the blood of cancer
patients. She goes into detail about them with pictures. She also says
that she does not see them as the cause of cancer but rather as
creatures that develop in the pathological environment of the blood
(in cancer patients). This is how it ties in with the above: She says
that these organisms disappear at the rate that the yellow-green
substance in the blood disappears.

Wilhelm


Re: Beads in the mixture

Cheryl du Toit
 

Dear group,

When people first come to me asking for help with their mixture and how they
will know if it is mixed properly I advise them to make the fo/cc mixture
(2tbl spoons oil with 4 tbl spoons cc for starters), and after mixing add
1/2 cup diluted grape juice to the mixture. If there is oil visible on the
surface, it is very clear that the mixture is not water soluble. There
should be no oil on the surface of this mixture. The grape juice can be
replaced with carrot juice etc. - it tastes great and is a sure way to find
out if your mixture is water soluble.

An easy way for people starting out to make sure that they are doing it
correctly.

Best wishes
Cheryl

-------Original Message-------

From: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Date: 11 July 2004 08:30:29 PM
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Beads in the mixture


Are we really sure we need to mix to point of no beads with magnifying
glass?

Dr.Budwig was clear about mixing the fo/cc until it was a smooth cream and
there was no oil visible anymore. The part with the magnifying glass only
came up in connection with unstrained yogurt when I made a closer inspection
of the mixture. It was not a suggestion to use a magnifying glass in the
daily routine of mixing fo/cc.

You are beating the hell out of the protein in the dairy product.
You don't need to "beat the hell out of the dairy product" if you use quark.
It makes the FO water soluble quickly because it has the required protein
concentration.

It seems odd that discoverer of this method is German and we need to go
get a German product to reproduce it.

You don't need to reproduce it, you can use cottage cheese which is similar
in protein concentration - or you can make yogurt quark.

I think quark sounds like something common in Germany and therefore was
used but any dairy product with high sulfur dairy protein should do.

I have read (cannot remember where) that Dr.Budwig's research that
culminated into her Oil-Protein Diet began by using FO with skim milk. She
must have found it unsatisfactory because she quickly switched to low fat
quark. It is not a question of "any dairy with high sulfur will do". The
required nutrients are sulphur bearing proteins and it depends on how much
of them are present and how concentrated they are. The point is optimization
That was the purpose of our recent discussions on this topic - not what
dairy product "should do". That may not be good enough.

What next we all speak German while using the protocol?
No comment

Wilhelm



----- Original Message -----
From: Barb
To: Flaxseed
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 2:42 PM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Beads in the mixture


Are we really sure we need to mix to point of no
beads with magnifying glass? You are beating the
hell out of the protein in the dairy product.
It seems odd that discoverer of this method is
German and we need to go get a German product to
reproduce it. I think quark sounds like
something common in Germany and therefore was
used but any dairy product with high sulfur dairy
protein should do. What next we all speak German
while using the protocol?





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intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctor about
the diagnosis and treatment of health problems.


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Re: Good Review

Wilhelm Hansen
 

Nice review Rick.

It is interesting to note that in point 7 where he says "EFAs, particularly Omega 3, have been shown to decrease growth of cancer cells, candida, and various anaerobic organisms destructive to human health of the body." he includes "anaerobic organisms".

Looking at this in connection with point 12 which ends with these words "...she found that within three months the yellow-green was replaced by red and the cancer disappeared", reminds me of what Dr.Budwig says in her book "Das Fettsyndrom" (The Fat Syndrome) p.82.

She says that she observed micro-organisms in the blood of cancer patients. She goes into detail about them with pictures. She also says that she does not see them as the cause of cancer but rather as creatures that develop in the pathological environment of the blood (in cancer patients). This is how it ties in with the above: She says that these organisms disappear at the rate that the yellow-green substance in the blood disappears.

Wilhelm

----- Original Message -----
From: rickmuenzer
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 9:54 AM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Good Review


Here is an old web page about omega 3s - good to review!



Twelve Points on Essential Fatty Acids
As compiled by Dr. Douglas Morrison
1. There are two essential fatty acids; these essential nutrients have
been shown by leading researchers to be necessary for both the optimum
health of the body as well as for freedom from degenerative disease.
They are known as Omega 3(alpha-linolenic acid or ALNA) and Omega 6
(linoleic acid or LA).
2. Along with proteins, essential fatty acids or EFAs are the building
blocks of cell membranes and various internal cell structures.
3. EFAs are necessary for the metabolism and transportation of
triglycerides and cholesterol.
4. EFAs are necessary for the development and the function of the
human brain.
5. EFAs are necessary for proper function of the vision, nervous
system, adrenal glands, and testes, playing a vital role in sperm
formation and conception.
6. EFAs boost metabolism, metabolic rate, energy production, and
oxygen uptake.
7. EFAs, particularly Omega 3, have been shown to decrease growth of
cancer cells, candida, and various anaerobic organisms destructive to
human health of the body.
8. EFAs are precursors to hormonelike substances known as the
prostaglandins. There are three main groups of these, known as PG1s,
PG2s, and PG3s. Prostaglandins govern platelet stickiness in the
blood, arterial muscle tone, inflammatory response, sodium excretion
through the kidneys, and immune function.
9. PG1s and PG2s are derived from Omega 6, while the PG3s come from
Omega 3. PG2s are triggered by stress and they will increase platelet
stickiness, constrict arteries, increase inflammation, decrease sodium
excretion, and inhibit immune function. Under normal circumstances the
PG3s would keep the PG2s in check; were the production of PG2s to go
unchecked serious consequences could result. A lack or deficiency of
Omega 3 will result in a lack or deficiency of PG3s. The ratio of
Omega 6 to Omega 3 is also crucial, as excess Omega 6 as compared to
Omega 3 promotes tumor formation. Research suggests that the ratio of
Omega 6 to Omega 3 should be no greater than 5:1. A typical ratio in
most people's diets is in excess of 20:1.
10. Excess non-essential fatty acids compete for a vital enzyme known
as D-6-D, thus an excess of non-essential fatty acids can result in a
functional deficiency of EFAs. Research indicates the ratio of
non-essential to essential fatty acids should be no more than 1:1. A
typical ratio for most people is in excess of 10:1, with almost all of
the essential fatty acids being Omega 6.
11. In the November 1986 Journal of the National Cancer Institute
research indicated that Omega 3 and one of its derivatives as well as
three of the derivatives of Omega 6 were seen to selectively destroy
human cancer cells in tissue culture without damaging normal cells.
12. Dr. Johanna Budwig, a German M.D. and biochemist, discovered that
the blood of cancer patients was deficient in EFAs. A yellow-green
pigment was found in place of the normal red blood pigment or
hemoglobin. Along with certain dietary improvements, she gave her
patients three or more tablespoons of fresh flax oil as a means of
getting EFAs into the body(flax oil is 55-65% Omega 3 and 15-25% Omega
6). On this program, which included no other supplements, she found
that within three months the yellow-green was replaced by red and the
cancer disappeared.


sunglasses

 

As a result of FO/CC and the sun I stopped wearing my sunglasses. I used to even wear them in the house. The last pair that I ordered was the darkest possible lens and now I don't use them. The sun doesn't have the affect on my eyes that it did before this program.
Rhoda

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Oleolox

 

I use a corning ware pan and it browns the oil without a high light. I too save the garlic and onion and put it on bread or potatoes. I will cool it in the future before adding to FO. I just followed the directions.
Rhoda
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