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Re: CHIPSA hospital uses FSO/CC

 

From: Cliff Beckwith <cliffb865@...>
The Gerson treatment doesn't use the sulfur based proteins either.
Unfortunately traditional Gerson therapy and the Gerson Inst. don't use FSO/CC
(even though they allow CC and yogurt and use FSO separately) but CHIPSA,
another Gerson hospital in Tiuana, uses FSO/CC.


Re: clinic in Zion, Illinois

H&M Feld
 

I was wondering if anyone out there is using Nature's Way flaxseed oil in
their FO/CC protocol.
I changed from Spectrum to Nature's Way and now experience diarrhea not
every time but many times about an hour after ingesting.
Harry

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cliff Beckwith" <cliffb865@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 9:47 AM
Subject: `Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] clinic in Zion, Illinois


Hi Rose,

Thanks for that input. I am glad to know that conerning The Cancer
Treatment Centers of America. The Gerson treatment doesn't use the sulfur
based proteins either. I do not know the Gerson degree of success but I
believe it is less than Dr. Budwig was able to achieve.

However, I wouldn't touch the Flaxseed oil without the sulfur based
proeteins with a ten foot pole as the old saying goes, unless the amouint
of
Flaxseed oil used would be no more than a tablespoon and that much is not
enough to fight serious cancer.

Dr. Budwig says that the use of the oil without the sulfur based proteins
may have "the opposite effect".

My Oncologist thinks somewhat like the Cancer treatment Centers of America
I
believe, except she would not suggest the Flax Oil without the sulfur
based
proteins and is coming closer to Dr. Budwig's protocol as she sees it
working.

My whole quarrel with what is happening in the Americas is that we will
not
experiment with what Dr. Budwig has found to work because it would greatly
damage our Pharmaceutical Industry. If they would and doctors would go
along with it we would enjoy the sunshine on some beach instead of at the
computer.

Cliff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rose Bowman" <rosiebowman@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 9:32 AM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] clinic in Zion, Illinois



Regarding Cancer Treatment Centers of America and the
connection to the FO/CC protocol...

Their approach is to use "restrained" chemo or
radiation to get cancer under control, then lots and
lots of good nutrition, herbs, and other alternatives
to heal the body. They do indeed strongly acknowledge
the anti-cancer benefits of flax oil and recommend it
as part of the nutritional healing program. However,
they don't advocate the sulpherated proteins. It
seems that the Budwig diet is one of the few that
stresses this combination.

Rose Bowman



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`Re: clinic in Zion, Illinois

Cliff Beckwith
 

Hi Rose,

Thanks for that input. I am glad to know that conerning The Cancer
Treatment Centers of America. The Gerson treatment doesn't use the sulfur
based proteins either. I do not know the Gerson degree of success but I
believe it is less than Dr. Budwig was able to achieve.

However, I wouldn't touch the Flaxseed oil without the sulfur based
proeteins with a ten foot pole as the old saying goes, unless the amouint of
Flaxseed oil used would be no more than a tablespoon and that much is not
enough to fight serious cancer.

Dr. Budwig says that the use of the oil without the sulfur based proteins
may have "the opposite effect".

My Oncologist thinks somewhat like the Cancer treatment Centers of America I
believe, except she would not suggest the Flax Oil without the sulfur based
proteins and is coming closer to Dr. Budwig's protocol as she sees it
working.

My whole quarrel with what is happening in the Americas is that we will not
experiment with what Dr. Budwig has found to work because it would greatly
damage our Pharmaceutical Industry. If they would and doctors would go
along with it we would enjoy the sunshine on some beach instead of at the
computer.

Cliff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rose Bowman" <rosiebowman@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 9:32 AM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] clinic in Zion, Illinois



Regarding Cancer Treatment Centers of America and the
connection to the FO/CC protocol...

Their approach is to use "restrained" chemo or
radiation to get cancer under control, then lots and
lots of good nutrition, herbs, and other alternatives
to heal the body. They do indeed strongly acknowledge
the anti-cancer benefits of flax oil and recommend it
as part of the nutritional healing program. However,
they don't advocate the sulpherated proteins. It
seems that the Budwig diet is one of the few that
stresses this combination.

Rose Bowman


clinic in Zion, Illinois

 

Regarding Cancer Treatment Centers of America and the
connection to the FO/CC protocol...

Their approach is to use "restrained" chemo or
radiation to get cancer under control, then lots and
lots of good nutrition, herbs, and other alternatives
to heal the body. They do indeed strongly acknowledge
the anti-cancer benefits of flax oil and recommend it
as part of the nutritional healing program. However,
they don't advocate the sulpherated proteins. It
seems that the Budwig diet is one of the few that
stresses this combination.

Rose Bowman

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Re: [Kefir_making] Johanna Budwig/Flax Seed Oil/SeedCure

Jon Palmer
 

Thanks. Would you please provide us with the ratio of the ingredients and
do you still use a blender?

Jon

(from another list....thoughts anyone?)

ABOUT a year and a half ago, a few friends and myself found the
following information on Johanna Budwig. We felt she had been "way"
before her time, and we were thrilled with what we found out reading
her writings. I was so thrilled about the results she had had in
treating degenerative disease, that I began doing the 'diet'. The
flax seed oil and the freshly ground seed were definitely helpful,
and bowel transit time did increase... but I was not seeing
the 'response' that I wanted, and that I had heard about. It was
some time later when I learned more about KEFIR that I realized
that "this was my missing link"! As I dug further into Johanna
Budwig's writings and the therapies she used - she *always* used
properly cultured milks and buttermilks - she did not use what we
have on our store shelves today. THIS finally explained to me why
she had had the amazing results she had.


So - now I've been re-doing my original Joanna Budwig diet - but with
the big difference of using fresh kefir (made with raw milk) rather
than store-bought cottage cheese. I use freshly ground flax seed and
oil. WOWWWWWW!!! What a difference. I take them together in the a.m.
on an empty stomach - and it is mighty powerful for colon cleansing
AND liver cleansing. I've compiled some information here for anyone
who is interested in reading more:


Re: clinic in Zion, Illinois

 

What is the address for this center?

Jasmina


[Kefir_making] Johanna Budwig/Flax Seed Oil/Seed Cure

Alex Korbeck
 

Begin forwarded message:

FlaxSeedOil2@...


Re: [Kefir_making] Johanna Budwig/Flax Seed Oil/Seed Cure

Alex Korbeck
 

Thank you for your time explaining the diet.

Alex Korbeck
On Monday, March 17, 2003, at 06:34 PM, ejohns9525@... wrote:

(from another list....thoughts anyone?)

ABOUT a year and a half ago, a few friends and myself found the
following information on Johanna Budwig. We felt she had been "way"
before her time, and we were thrilled with what we found out reading
her writings.? I was so thrilled about the results she had had in
treating degenerative disease, that I began doing the 'diet'.? The
flax seed oil and the freshly ground seed were definitely helpful,
and bowel transit time did increase... but I was not seeing
the 'response' that I wanted, and that I had heard about.? It was
some time later when I learned more about KEFIR that I realized
that "this was my missing link"!? As I dug further into Johanna
Budwig's writings and the therapies she used - she *always* used
properly cultured milks and buttermilks - she did not use what we
have on our store shelves today.? THIS finally explained to me why
she had had the amazing results she had.


So - now I've been re-doing my original Joanna Budwig diet - but with
the big difference of using fresh kefir (made with raw milk) rather
than store-bought cottage cheese. I use freshly ground flax seed and
oil. WOWWWWWW!!! What a difference.? I take them together in the a.m.
on an empty stomach - and it is mighty powerful for colon cleansing
AND liver cleansing.? I've compiled some information here for anyone
who is interested in reading more:


"The Budwig Diet


Germany's 90 year old Dr Joanna Budwig, nominated 6 times for the
Nobel Prize, has made the most remarkable discovery of them all!
After 30 years of research, she has found that 2 simple food items:
1. Flax Seed Oil (cold-pressed, unprocessed) and 2. Low Fat Cottage
Cheese will CURE or prevent many forms of cancers and a long list of
other degenerative disease including cardiovascular diseases and skin
diseases! Unprocessed flax seed oil provides 2 essential fatty acids
seriously deficient in the standard American diet: Linolenic and
Linoleic acids. These two unsaturated fatty acids have 3 high-energy
double bonds (pi-electrons) in their outer electron shells. These
fatty acids affect the membranes of animal cells and permit a
thousand-fold increase in oxygen transport and assimilation! By
substantially increasing the oxidation potential within the cell, Dr
Budwig proved what her German predecessor, Dr Otto Warburg, had
discovered 30 years earlier: cancer cells cannot survive in an oxygen-
rich environment. With sulfur-rich protein and calcium provided by
the cottage cheese, all the elements are in place for membrane repair
and increased energy transfer. A 2001 news item posted on the
Internet from Duke University caught my attention (and ire) claiming
to be hot on the trail of a 'new' discovery concerning the anticancer
benefits of flax seed oil. I contacted the editor and set him
straight on a few historical facts. To recover from cancer, the
Budwig Diet needs to be taken in conjunction with a strict, health-
promoting diet free of processed, devitalized foods..."


"One of the most important and far reaching health discoveries of the
Twentieth Century is that made by Dr. Johanna Budwig, a German
biochemist who is a leading European authority on fats and nutrition.
She has been nominated for the Nobel Prize seven times. She used her
methods to successfully heal terminal cancer patients, people with
heart diseases, arthritis and other ailments after they had been
given up as hopeless by the conventional medical practitioners. Her
methods were so simple that any housewife could use her techniques
with no special training and with good results. In fact, this is
exactly what happened in many cases, People with serious diseases
were curing themselves to the astonishment of the conventional
medical practitioners. However, in spite of the simplicity of Dr.
Budwig's discoveries, they also reveal a profound relationship to not
only the harmonious working of the human body, but man's relationship
with the Cosmos itself.


To really understand her work, you will have to study her writings or
the work of later nutritionists who are following in her footsteps.
Please see the bibliography. However, I will just give a bare outline
of her methods to give an idea of what it is all about...."? (KEEP
READING THIS ARTICLE AT:? )


ANOTHER EXCELLENT ARTICLE AT:
yourself.org/fc/dukestudyignorsbudwigwork15aug01.shtml


YET ANOTHER (TESTIMONIAL):?



Anyway... just thought I'd let you all in on what I'm presently doing!


All the BEST






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Re: BLADDER NOT EMPTYING - URGENCIES - TRIALS

H&M Feld
 

Ramon,
Got it backwards....................Avodart
Harry

----- Original Message -----
From: "H&M Feld" <ariel@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] BLADDER NOT EMPTYING - URGENCIES - TRIALS


Ramon,
Have you looked into giving Adovart a try?
----- Original Message -----
From: <sansrx@...>
To: <pralt-discuss@...>
Cc: <FlaxseedOil2@...>
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 5:22 PM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] BLADDER NOT EMPTYING - URGENCIES - TRIALS



Dear Group:

Got booted out from a BPH clinical trial.
Wouldn't agree to a biopsy.
Took their study medication for 15 days w/o any side effects,
suspecting I belonged to the placebo group.
The Albumin came in @ 5.0. (has always been below 4.5)
PSA: 6.4 02/26/'03; 6.9 12/23/'02; 12.9 8/27/'02;
8.3 4/3/'02.
TESTOSTERONE: 567
All others within range.
The bladder ultrasound showed urine retention two minutes after voiding
185 on the uroflow scale.
It's as if time has stood still. Same symptoms dating back to '99.
FOFSCC is taken daily.
Stay well
Ramon




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Re: BLADDER NOT EMPTYING - URGENCIES - TRIALS

H&M Feld
 

Ramon,
Have you looked into giving Adovart a try?

----- Original Message -----
From: <sansrx@...>
To: <pralt-discuss@...>
Cc: <FlaxseedOil2@...>
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 5:22 PM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] BLADDER NOT EMPTYING - URGENCIES - TRIALS



Dear Group:

Got booted out from a BPH clinical trial.
Wouldn't agree to a biopsy.
Took their study medication for 15 days w/o any side effects,
suspecting I belonged to the placebo group.
The Albumin came in @ 5.0. (has always been below 4.5)
PSA: 6.4 02/26/'03; 6.9 12/23/'02; 12.9 8/27/'02;
8.3 4/3/'02.
TESTOSTERONE: 567
All others within range.
The bladder ultrasound showed urine retention two minutes after voiding
185 on the uroflow scale.
It's as if time has stood still. Same symptoms dating back to '99.
FOFSCC is taken daily.
Stay well
Ramon




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BLADDER NOT EMPTYING - URGENCIES - TRIALS

 

Dear Group:

Got booted out from a BPH clinical trial.
Wouldn't agree to a biopsy.
Took their study medication for 15 days w/o any side effects,
suspecting I belonged to the placebo group.
The Albumin came in @ 5.0. (has always been below 4.5)
PSA: 6.4 02/26/'03; 6.9 12/23/'02; 12.9 8/27/'02;
8.3 4/3/'02.
TESTOSTERONE: 567
All others within range.
The bladder ultrasound showed urine retention two minutes after voiding 185 on the uroflow scale.
It's as if time has stood still. Same symptoms dating back to '99.
FOFSCC is taken daily.
Stay well
Ramon


Re: Fw: CNN announces worst virus ever - HOAX!!!

Les Catterall
 

That it really IS a hoax you mean don't you!

rita kinney wrote:


I went to "truth or fiction" and found that this is truth.

----- Original Message -----
From: "JJ" <jimmy.joe@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 3:27 AM
Subject: RE: [FlaxSeedOil2] Fw: CNN announces worst virus ever - HOAX!!!

THIS IS A BLOODY HOAX!


Re: Fw: CNN announces worst virus ever - HOAX!!!

rita kinney
 

I went to "truth or fiction" and found that this is truth.

----- Original Message -----
From: "JJ" <jimmy.joe@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 3:27 AM
Subject: RE: [FlaxSeedOil2] Fw: CNN announces worst virus ever - HOAX!!!


THIS IS A BLOODY HOAX!



Before ANYONE broadcasts such a note to a mailing list, do the
responsible thing and check out whether the information you are
sending is a hoax or not! Bookmark the above site so you don't
become a perpetrator of such information.

This hoax is over 2 years old!

Jimmy Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Mittelman [mailto:jmittelman@...]
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 9:13 AM
To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Fw: CNN announces worst virus ever

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[Kefir_making] Johanna Budwig/Flax Seed Oil/Seed Cure

 

(from another list....thoughts anyone?)

ABOUT a year and a half ago, a few friends and myself found the
following information on Johanna Budwig. We felt she had been "way"
before her time, and we were thrilled with what we found out reading
her writings.? I was so thrilled about the results she had had in
treating degenerative disease, that I began doing the 'diet'.? The
flax seed oil and the freshly ground seed were definitely helpful,
and bowel transit time did increase... but I was not seeing
the 'response' that I wanted, and that I had heard about.? It was
some time later when I learned more about KEFIR that I realized
that "this was my missing link"!? As I dug further into Johanna
Budwig's writings and the therapies she used - she *always* used
properly cultured milks and buttermilks - she did not use what we
have on our store shelves today.? THIS finally explained to me why
she had had the amazing results she had.


So - now I've been re-doing my original Joanna Budwig diet - but with
the big difference of using fresh kefir (made with raw milk) rather
than store-bought cottage cheese. I use freshly ground flax seed and
oil. WOWWWWWW!!! What a difference.? I take them together in the a.m.
on an empty stomach - and it is mighty powerful for colon cleansing
AND liver cleansing.? I've compiled some information here for anyone
who is interested in reading more:


"The Budwig Diet


Germany's 90 year old Dr Joanna Budwig, nominated 6 times for the
Nobel Prize, has made the most remarkable discovery of them all!
After 30 years of research, she has found that 2 simple food items:
1. Flax Seed Oil (cold-pressed, unprocessed) and 2. Low Fat Cottage
Cheese will CURE or prevent many forms of cancers and a long list of
other degenerative disease including cardiovascular diseases and skin
diseases! Unprocessed flax seed oil provides 2 essential fatty acids
seriously deficient in the standard American diet: Linolenic and
Linoleic acids. These two unsaturated fatty acids have 3 high-energy
double bonds (pi-electrons) in their outer electron shells. These
fatty acids affect the membranes of animal cells and permit a
thousand-fold increase in oxygen transport and assimilation! By
substantially increasing the oxidation potential within the cell, Dr
Budwig proved what her German predecessor, Dr Otto Warburg, had
discovered 30 years earlier: cancer cells cannot survive in an oxygen-
rich environment. With sulfur-rich protein and calcium provided by
the cottage cheese, all the elements are in place for membrane repair
and increased energy transfer. A 2001 news item posted on the
Internet from Duke University caught my attention (and ire) claiming
to be hot on the trail of a 'new' discovery concerning the anticancer
benefits of flax seed oil. I contacted the editor and set him
straight on a few historical facts. To recover from cancer, the
Budwig Diet needs to be taken in conjunction with a strict, health-
promoting diet free of processed, devitalized foods..."


"One of the most important and far reaching health discoveries of the
Twentieth Century is that made by Dr. Johanna Budwig, a German
biochemist who is a leading European authority on fats and nutrition.
She has been nominated for the Nobel Prize seven times. She used her
methods to successfully heal terminal cancer patients, people with
heart diseases, arthritis and other ailments after they had been
given up as hopeless by the conventional medical practitioners. Her
methods were so simple that any housewife could use her techniques
with no special training and with good results. In fact, this is
exactly what happened in many cases, People with serious diseases
were curing themselves to the astonishment of the conventional
medical practitioners. However, in spite of the simplicity of Dr.
Budwig's discoveries, they also reveal a profound relationship to not
only the harmonious working of the human body, but man's relationship
with the Cosmos itself.


To really understand her work, you will have to study her writings or
the work of later nutritionists who are following in her footsteps.
Please see the bibliography. However, I will just give a bare outline
of her methods to give an idea of what it is all about...."? (KEEP
READING THIS ARTICLE AT:? )


ANOTHER EXCELLENT ARTICLE AT:
yourself.org/fc/dukestudyignorsbudwigwork15aug01.shtml


YET ANOTHER (TESTIMONIAL):?



Anyway... just thought I'd let you all in on what I'm presently doing!


All the BEST


Re: Fw: CNN announces worst virus ever - HOAX!!!

JJ
 

THIS IS A BLOODY HOAX!



Before ANYONE broadcasts such a note to a mailing list, do the
responsible thing and check out whether the information you are
sending is a hoax or not! Bookmark the above site so you don't
become a perpetrator of such information.

This hoax is over 2 years old!

Jimmy Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Mittelman [mailto:jmittelman@...]
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 9:13 AM
To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Fw: CNN announces worst virus ever


Fw: CNN announces worst virus ever

Jerry Mittelman
 

CNN announces worst virus ever

----- Original Message -----
From: Jan Jenson <vizual@...>
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 7:30 PM
Subject: CNN announces worst virus ever



PLEASE SEND THIS TO EVERYONE ON YOUR CONTACT LIST !!



A new virus has just been discovered that has been classified by
Microsoft as the most destructive ever! This virus was discovered
yesterday afternoon by McAfee and no vaccine has yet ! been developed.
This virus simply destroys Sector Zero from the hard disk, where vital
information for its functioning are stored.

This virus acts in the following manner: It sends itself automatically
to all contacts on your list with
the title "A Card for You".

As soon as the supposed virtual card is opened, the computer freezes
so that the user has to reboot. When the ctrl+alt+del keys or the
reset button are pressed, the virus destroys Sector Zero, thus
permanently destroying the hard disk. Yesterday in just a few hours
this virus caused panic in New York, according to news broadcast by
CNN. This alert was received by an employee of Microsoft itself.

So don't open any mails with subject: "A Virtual Card for You."

As soon as you get the mail, delete it!! Even if you know the
sender!!!

Please pass this mail to all of your friends.

Forward this to everyone in your address book. I'm sure most people,
like myself, would rather receive this notice 25 times than not at
all.


Re: chemo and flax oil

kirsten somers
 

Hi Joyce -
We are. My husband Paul was diagnosed in December with very advanced esophageal cancer - in the liver and bones and adrenals as well. We started chemo and flax oil concurrently and there was a good bit of improvement insofar as the size of the tumors are concerned...which of course presents the query...which bullet hit. He has since been on a round of a new and very rigourous chemo drug which has had very deliterious side effects...we are probably going to stop after the last treatment of this round...it is clearly a case of the "cure" being more distructive then the disease. He gets weaker after each "treatment"...a hard decision.
kirsten
CLOVERCREST <snaffles@...> wrote:have any of you taken the flax oil and cottage cheese while doing the
chemo treatments also?
thanks
Joyce


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cell phones and brain tumors

Jerry Mittelman
 

Brain Tumor Rates Rising in Europe, US

FLORENCE (Reuters Health) - The number of brain tumor cases in the US and Europe has increased by up to 40% in the past 20 years, according to data to be released at a medical conference this week.

The incidence rate for brain tumors is increasing among people of all ages, but males between 20 and 40 years old are the most affected, according to Dr. Alba Brandes, an oncologist at the Azienda-Ospedale in Padua.

------

Consider this: The increase is among young, active people, not the elderly with weak immune systems. Cell phone use has incresed during the last 20 years in this group and may very well be the active causative factor.

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Re: Fw: CNN announces worst virus ever

 

This is a hoax. Go to snopes.com and do a search for "a card for you".
Ray

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Multiple Myaloma

Cliff Beckwith
 

Hi,

One of my wife's younger brother was married to a lady who died in an auto
accident but who's mother is living and has Multiple Myaloma.

One of our nieces got her on Flaxseed Oil/Cottage Cheese quite a while ago.
I am not exactly sure of the starting date.

Our niece tells me that her grandmother is doing well. I hope to see her
later this summer.

Cliff