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Subj: [pralt-discuss] CYBTHIA'S CHEMO, TO DO OR NOT TO DO?
Date: 3/21/2003 2:33:30 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: SANSRX@...
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Cynthia,
Please re-consider your chemo.
I could have but didn't give in to my family, (a team of nurses) or the urologist, their insistence was relentless to have a prostate biopsy.
Thanks to the fellowship of prostate90.com, I refused.
I'm now not regretting that decision.
Now, I have flaxseed2's fellowship as a support group, and believe my prostate inflammation has diminished due to my diet change, exercise, and CCFOFSG taken daily.(cottage cheese+flaxoil+flaxseeds grounded)
It is because of these two support groups that I strive for continued health improvement.
Listen to your inner voice & no one elses.
My opinion and mine only
Thank you all @ pralt-discuss and flaxseed2.
Ramon

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Subj: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Tom's 12 Month MRI Report
Date: 3/20/2003 8:47:47 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: karatbird@...
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
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Praise God that Flaxseed oil and miracles do happen!!

I hate to say this, but I will be doing the chemo, to make my family happy and to make the doctors happy. I also will be using the f/o and cc along -too.

I am now back to the cottage cheese instead of using the companion nutrients.


In God We Trust
Cynthia

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Subj: CYBTHIA'S CHEMO, TO DO OR NOT TO DO?
Date: 3/21/2003 2:33:30 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: SANSRX
To: Karatbird
Cc: FlaxSeedOil2@..., pralt-discuss@...

Cynthia,
Please re-consider your chemo.
I could have but didn't give in to my family, (a team of nurses) or the urologist, their insistence was relentless to have a prostate biopsy.
Thanks to the fellowship of prostate90.com, I refused.
I'm now not regretting that decision.
Now, I have flaxseed2's fellowship as a support group, and believe my prostate inflammation has diminished due to my diet change, exercise, and CCFOFSG taken daily.(cottage cheese+flaxoil+flaxseeds grounded)
It is because of these two support groups that I strive for continued health improvement.
Listen to your inner voice & no one elses.
My opinion and mine only
Thank you all @ pralt-discuss and flaxseed2.
Ramon

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Subj: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Tom's 12 Month MRI Report
Date: 3/20/2003 8:47:47 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: karatbird@...
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Reply-To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Sent from the Internet (Details)

Praise God that Flaxseed oil and miracles do happen!!

I hate to say this, but I will be doing the chemo, to make my family happy and to make the doctors happy. I also will be using the f/o and cc along -too.

I am now back to the cottage cheese instead of using the companion nutrients.


In God We Trust
Cynthia

Cliff,
His making a living at his profession and standings with the AMA takes precedent over the patients well being.
Ramon


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Subj: [FlaxSeedOil2] Interesting accou;nt
Date: 3/20/2003 10:41:35 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: "Cliff Beckwith" <cliffb865@...>
To: "Flaxseed Oil 2" <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
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Hi,

Last night and tonight I had two very interesting phone calls from a Lady in
Knoxville, TN.

Her husband is suffering from a recurrance of Esophageal cancer. He is taking Heavy doses of FO/CC.

Their son is a Urologist.

He told his mother that he knew of men who were bringing down their PSAs with FO/CC but that he didn't know it would help other cancers. This man treats some who are in our cancer support group but to patients he never gives any hint about his knowing anythng about FO/CC.

I will never reveal his name but I thought that was interesting.

Cliff

Cynthia,
Please re-consider your chemo.
I could have but didn't give in to my family, (a team of nurses) or the urologist, their insistence was relentless to have a prostate biopsy.
Thanks to the fellowship of prostate90.com, I refused.
I'm now not regretting that decision.
Now, I have flaxseed2's fellowship as a support group, and believe my prostate inflammation has diminished due to my diet change, exercise, and CCFOFSG taken daily.(cottage cheese+flaxoil+flaxseeds grounded)
It is because of these two support groups that I strive for continued health improvement.
Listen to your inner voice & no one elses.
My opinion and mine only
Thank you all @ pralt-discuss and flaxseed2.
Ramon

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subj: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Tom's 12 Month MRI Report
Date: 3/20/2003 8:47:47 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: karatbird@...
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Reply-To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Sent from the Internet (Details)

Praise God that Flaxseed oil and miracles do happen!!

I hate to say this, but I will be doing the chemo, to make my family happy and to make the doctors happy. I also will be using the f/o and cc along -too.

I am now back to the cottage cheese instead of using the companion nutrients.


In God We Trust
Cynthia

Kelly, that is great!
For your additional comfort, I want to tell you that the man I know and
wrote about before, who was also healed of his brain cancer using the
Budwig Diet is still free of cancer. That was in 1997. I last spoke with
him about a month ago. However, he is still following the principles of
the Budwig Diet. That is important. I hope Tom keeps up his fo/cc
regimen also. In that case, Dr.Budwig's words in her latest book
'Cancer, the Problem and the Solution' p.110 (available in German only)
should likely apply: "Further tumors or metastasis will not occur."

Good health to you and Tom,
Wilhelm


Kelly wrote:

Wilhelm:

Many thanks for the information.

Jon

Jon,
I don't remember reading that Dr.Budwig used goat milk products. The
problem with goat milk and goat milk products is that they are
relatively high in fat content. I have not seen low fat goat milk being
sold. That may have to do with the smaller fat globules in goat milk as
compared to cow milk. Goat milk fat does not separate as cow milk fat
does as you may know. That doesn't mean that you can not use them. Using
a bit of goat milk as a thinner for your fo/cc should not increase the
fat content by much on the overall. Here are the meth/cyst comparisions:

Milk, cow 1% fat - 0.113 g meth/cyst per 100 g
Milk, goat 4% fat - 0.126 g meth/cyst per 100 g

I don't know how much it will change the taste though. I believe that
fruits, spices, etc. are much more effective in changing the taste of
your fo/cc. Wilhelm


Jon Palmer wrote:

Hello to all:

Does anyone know if Dr. Budwig ever used goat's milk products instead
of
cow's milk? Also, does anyone know the sulfur protein (meth/cyst) of
goat's
milk to possibly use as a thinner to the fo/cc mix for a change of
taste?
Thanks.

Cordially,
Jon


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thank you all.
k
ejohns9525@... wrote:In a message dated 03/21/2003 3:16:57 AM Central Standard Time,
foxhillers@... writes:

Kristen
Dandelion in your lawn or produce section of a good supermarket.
Milk thistle in the vitamin section of K-Mart, Wal-Mart, Rite-Aid, etc.
Essiac (Native American herb tea by several names) in the health
food/whole food store. This MUST be prepared from the herbs and stewed for
a
day to be effective or puchased in ready to drink form. Forget the teabags
and tinctures,
These goodies are also available on the internet and/or from places like
Ameriherb in Ames, IA.
Hope this helps
mjh

Kristen or anyone else,
In Longview and Tyler Tx there is a health food store called the Granary
that has unbelieveavle prices on Essiac tea etc. I realize this is only
worth while to those nearby.

Edith







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--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Kelly" <kellyrolland@h...>
wrote:

We just got Tom's 12 month MRI Report today. Tom is still cancer
free, no sign of brain cancer. The Doctor said it is a miracle.

We

are praising the Lord for his blessings! The doc said for the

next

year he will have to go every 4 months for an MRI. We continue to
take our flax oil and cottage cheese. Thanks to everyone on the
list - Kelly www.flaxoflife.com

Hello to all:

Does anyone know if Dr. Budwig ever used goat's milk products instead of
cow's milk? Also, does anyone know the sulfur protein (meth/cyst) of goat's
milk to possibly use as a thinner to the fo/cc mix for a change of taste?
Thanks.

Cordially,
Jon

Jane -

your examples show the weak/wrong basis of Dr Myers' statements.
Could you advise where to get the (complete?) texts?

Thank you

Peter

In a message dated 03/21/2003 3:16:57 AM Central Standard Time,
foxhillers@... writes:

Kristen
Dandelion in your lawn or produce section of a good supermarket.
Milk thistle in the vitamin section of K-Mart, Wal-Mart, Rite-Aid, etc.
Essiac (Native American herb tea by several names) in the health
food/whole food store. This MUST be prepared from the herbs and stewed for
a
day to be effective or puchased in ready to drink form. Forget the teabags
and tinctures,
These goodies are also available on the internet and/or from places like
Ameriherb in Ames, IA.
Hope this helps
mjh

Kristen or anyone else,
In Longview and Tyler Tx there is a health food store called the Granary
that has unbelieveavle prices on Essiac tea etc. I realize this is only
worth while to those nearby.

Edith

Very interesting site, but no link to the COX-2/cancer connection. I have
grown Holy Basil and ginger for decades and have never suspected these other
qualities.
mjh


In a message dated 3/21/03 4:01:49 AM Eastern Standard Time,
FlaxSeedOil2@... writes:

I can't imagine any way to starve tumor except the new theories involving
COX2 inhibition. This is supposed to actually "shrink" the blood vessels
to
tumors. I found an interesting article on
www.new-chapter.com/herbal_cox2.html. I have since begun to drink tea a
blend of decaffienated black tea and green tea. I really don't like the
way
green tea tastes. There are other herbals mentioned in this article.
I'd also like to hear other's thoughts on this.

Kristen
Dandelion in your lawn or produce section of a good supermarket.
Milk thistle in the vitamin section of K-Mart, Wal-Mart, Rite-Aid, etc.
Essiac (Native American herb tea by several names) in the health
food/whole food store. This MUST be prepared from the herbs and stewed for a
day to be effective or puchased in ready to drink form. Forget the teabags
and tinctures,
These goodies are also available on the internet and/or from places like
Ameriherb in Ames, IA.
Hope this helps
mjh


In a message dated 3/21/03 4:01:49 AM Eastern Standard Time,
FlaxSeedOil2@... writes:

found where?
foxhillers@... wrote:Liver =
Milk thistle, dandelion and a Native American Indian herb tea blend
sometimes called Essiac. (Burdock, slipper elm, sheep's sorrel and Turkish
rhubarb root).
mjh

Hi,

Last night and tonight I had two very interesting phone calls from a Lady in
Knoxville, TN.

Her husband is suffering from a recurrance of Esophageal cancer. He is
taking Heavy doses of FO/CC.

Their son is a Urologist.

He told his mother that he knew of men who were bringing down their PSAs
with FO/CC but that he didn't know it would help other cancers. This man
treats some who are in our cancer support group but to patients he never
gives any hint about his knowing anythng about FO/CC.

I will never reveal his name but I thought that was interesting.

Cliff

Please be careful Cynthia, Tom regrets taking the five days of
radiation (2 treatments a day) that he did take. We were blessed in
that the outlook for Tom's survival was so bleak the Doc's or our
family didn't try to bully us. Both Tom's Mom and sister are RN's.
The Doctor figured and even wrote in his notes that due to the
shortness of life left he should have the freedom to do what he
wants. This is the same doctor who walked into Tom's waiting room
today and wanted to touch Tom for good luck (We told him that there
wasn't any luck involved) God Bless You, Kelly


--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., karatbird@a... wrote:

Praise God that Flaxseed oil and miracles do happen!!

I hate to say this, but I will be doing the chemo, to make my

family happy

and to make the doctors happy. I also will be using the f/o and cc

along

too.

I am now back to the cottage cheese instead of using the companion

nutrients.

In God We Trust
Cynthia

how wonderful...I am so happy for you!
k
Kelly <kellyrolland@...> wrote:We just got Tom's 12 month MRI Report today. Tom is still cancer
free, no sign of brain cancer. The Doctor said it is a miracle. We
are praising the Lord for his blessings! The doc said for the next
year he will have to go every 4 months for an MRI. We continue to
take our flax oil and cottage cheese. Thanks to everyone on the
list - Kelly www.flaxoflife.com


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We just got Tom's 12 month MRI Report today. Tom is still cancer
free, no sign of brain cancer. The Doctor said it is a miracle. We
are praising the Lord for his blessings! The doc said for the next
year he will have to go every 4 months for an MRI. We continue to
take our flax oil and cottage cheese. Thanks to everyone on the
list - Kelly www.flaxoflife.com

well - I agree with Cliff. On our homefront we have decided to bag chemo - Paul is a mess...all because of chemo...I'm placing my trust here. So be it.
kirsten s.
Wilhelm Hansen <wilhelmh@...> wrote:
We all know Cliff as the good-natured man who has started this list and
who is always willing to help those in need. He spends an inordinate
amount of time helping cancer sufferers everywhere.

Today, for the first time ever he has banned a member from the list for
unacceptable behavior. In my mind he did what was necessary as this
member has a history of not respecting the rules of this list. I totally
agree with Cliff.

I hope that now we can get back to a harmonious exchange of information
and mutual help (on topic, please!) without insults and personal
attacks.

Wishing all members improving health, peace and happiness,
Wilhelm


Cliff Beckwith wrote:

To All,

One of the rules of this list is that we do not make personal attacks
on
anyone.

One member who has often disregarded this has been deleted and banned
from
further participation.

I once held a Certifate to be a High School Principal. Fortunately
for both
myself and the Education process I never used it. I have the
personality
for a High School Counselor and I used that quite successfully for in
the
neighborhood of 30 years.

Enough is enough.

Cliff


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We all know Cliff as the good-natured man who has started this list and
who is always willing to help those in need. He spends an inordinate
amount of time helping cancer sufferers everywhere.

Today, for the first time ever he has banned a member from the list for
unacceptable behavior. In my mind he did what was necessary as this
member has a history of not respecting the rules of this list. I totally
agree with Cliff.

I hope that now we can get back to a harmonious exchange of information
and mutual help (on topic, please!) without insults and personal
attacks.

Wishing all members improving health, peace and happiness,
Wilhelm


Cliff Beckwith wrote:

To All,

One of the rules of this list is that we do not make personal attacks
on
anyone.

One member who has often disregarded this has been deleted and banned
from
further participation.

I once held a Certifate to be a High School Principal. Fortunately
for both
myself and the Education process I never used it. I have the
personality
for a High School Counselor and I used that quite successfully for in
the
neighborhood of 30 years.

Enough is enough.

Cliff


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