Friendship is good. Its expensive but? I like the no salt version. I also use farmer's? cheese.
On Fri, Aug 16, 2024, 3:51?PM Georgiana Battochio via <hawkandgee= [email protected]> wrote: Hi Everyone,
Wish all returning? and managing super health.,
I have been learning and reading everyones kind share and concerns.,
Thank you all.,
I love to get some feedback on the possibility of using Cottage cheese from Friendship farmers .
Has anyone have has had a good positive response.
There milk may not be %100 RBST free,
Bye it is low sodium %15 protein and %1fat .
Any thought I appreciate
Many blessings
Georgiana
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Re: is sheep yogurt ok for FOCC?
Yes. I will definitely learn to make it.? Thank you, Marilyn!
On Friday, August 16, 2024 at 05:04:59 PM EDT, Marilyn Frasier via groups.io <drfrasier52@...> wrote:
Derald,
The milk might even be less expensive than the yogurt and making cottage cheese is not that time consuming.
Good luck!
Marilyn
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Re: is sheep yogurt ok for FOCC?
Derald,
The milk might even be less expensive than the yogurt and making cottage cheese is not that time consuming.
Good luck!
Marilyn
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Re: is sheep yogurt ok for FOCC?
Thank you, Marilyn!
I will also try to make my own from sheep milk as suggested by Rod.
On Friday, August 16, 2024 at 03:50:54 PM EDT, Marilyn Frasier via groups.io <drfrasier52@...> wrote:
Hi Derald,
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I think that in order to get a comparable amount of protein as cottage cheese or quark, you will need to remove the whey. ?Just put the sheep yogurt on a large piece of cheesecloth placed in a colander so you can drain the whey out of it. ?
Very best,
Marilyn
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Re: is sheep yogurt ok for FOCC?
Bellwether Farms plain sheep yogurt has 10g protein in 170g serving size, so about 6% protein.? Yes, I can get sheep milk from health food store and surely I can learn how to make cottage cheese on youtube.?
?Thank you for the suggestion, Rod!
On Friday, August 16, 2024 at 03:08:56 PM EDT, Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> wrote:
Can you get just sheep milk? Cottage cheese isn't hard to make. Some folks strain yogurt to increase the protein percentage. Tha may be worth a try. I do not know how much protein is in sheep yogurt.
Rod in MN/USA
On Friday, August 16, 2024 at 01:48:22 PM CDT, D. Franklin via groups.io <dafrank74@...> wrote:
I'm not supposed to have cow or goat dairy because these trigger excessive immune response on my lung sarcoidosis chronic autoimmune.
However, sheep dairy is ok.? I can get organic sheep yogurt, but I can't find sheep cottage cheese at any health food stores.
Does anyone think that sheep yogurt would ok for Bugwig FOCC mix?
Thank you!
Derald in CA/USA?
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Hi Everyone,
Wish all returning and managing super health.,
I have been learning and reading everyones kind share and concerns.,
Thank you all.,
I love to get some feedback on the possibility of using Cottage cheese from Friendship farmers .
Has anyone have has had a good positive response.
There milk may not be %100 RBST free,
Bye it is low sodium %15 protein and %1fat .
Any thought I appreciate
Many blessings
Georgiana
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Re: is sheep yogurt ok for FOCC?
Hi Derald,
?
I think that in order to get a comparable amount of protein as cottage cheese or quark, you will need to remove the whey. ?Just put the sheep yogurt on a large piece of cheesecloth placed in a colander so you can drain the whey out of it. ?
Very best,
Marilyn
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Re: is sheep yogurt ok for FOCC?
Can you get just sheep milk? Cottage cheese isn't hard to make. Some folks strain yogurt to increase the protein percentage. Tha may be worth a try. I do not know how much protein is in sheep yogurt.
Rod in MN/USA
On Friday, August 16, 2024 at 01:48:22 PM CDT, D. Franklin via groups.io <dafrank74@...> wrote:
I'm not supposed to have cow or goat dairy because these trigger excessive immune response on my lung sarcoidosis chronic autoimmune.
However, sheep dairy is ok.? I can get organic sheep yogurt, but I can't find sheep cottage cheese at any health food stores.
Does anyone think that sheep yogurt would ok for Bugwig FOCC mix?
Thank you!
Derald in CA/USA?
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Re: is sheep yogurt ok for FOCC?
I'm not supposed to have cow or goat dairy because these trigger excessive immune response on my lung sarcoidosis chronic autoimmune.
However, sheep dairy is ok.? I can get organic sheep yogurt, but I can't find sheep cottage cheese at any health food stores.
Does anyone think that sheep yogurt would ok for Bugwig FOCC mix?
Thank you!
Derald in CA/USA?
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Re: making quark from goat milk
Well, a lot of people said they have just as good luck fat or no fat.? Sent from the ghetto?
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On Aug 15, 2024, at 10:19?AM, Marilyn Frasier via groups.io <drfrasier52@...> wrote:
? Yes, Skip, this is fast and easy. ?When I made cottage cheese I found that a gallon of skim or low-fat milk yielded less than a pint of curd because there so much more whey to discard. ?Whole or 2% yields more cottage cheese with this method. ?With inflation, milk is so expensive that I cannot make cottage cheese, quark or yogurt with low-fat milk. ??
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Yes, Skip, this is fast and easy. ?When I made cottage cheese I found that a gallon of skim or low-fat milk yielded less than a pint of curd because there so much more whey to discard. ?Whole or 2% yields more cottage cheese with this method. ?With inflation, milk is so expensive that I cannot make cottage cheese, quark or yogurt with low-fat milk. ??
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You can make your own cottage cheese with skim milk with vinegar making cottage cheese is about as simple as it gets
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On Aug 14, 2024, at 3:12?AM, Margarita Petrie <Mfpetrie@...> wrote:
I had been using organic Greek plain yogurt. I¡¯m very poor and it¡¯s all I can afford. Is it not working with the oil??
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On Aug 13, 2024, at 4:24?PM, Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> wrote:
Dr. B was vegan and didn't want to incorporate any more animal fat than necessary. The important thing is the protein level, there is a minimum but no maximum. The protocol also calls for organic cottage cheese, but myself and several others here have proven that to be unnecessary as well. I used low fat as well as full fat, whatever was available, none of it organic and I healed stage 4 lung cancer.
I see people claiming that the order in which the ingredients are mixed matters, which I also proved to be false because I just put it all in a tall beaker and mixed it up with the hand blender.
A few more grams of animal fat isn't going to make or break the results. Protein is what matters.
Rod in MN/USA
On Tuesday, August 13, 2024 at 12:50:40 PM CDT, <orlandocrsantos@...> wrote:
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No, Dr. Budwig explains everything in her books, namely "Krebs" and "Der Tod des Tumors: Band 1 und Band 2". In order to transport, access and assimilate the oil/oxygen, the quark/cottage vehicle must be very low in fat.
And that's it.
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Honestly, the fat content is a minor detail. If all you can get is full fat, it will still work for the protocol.
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Rod in MN/USA
On Tuesday, August 13, 2024 at 07:41:28 AM CDT, <orlandocrsantos@...> wrote:
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Hi Catherine,?
I just wanted to point out to many of the members of this site that both Dr. Budwig and the Budwig Center have always insisted on using quark or cottage cheese with a maximum of 2% fat. The rest doesn't work. If it doesn't exist in your country or region, then get together and import it from abroad under good refrigeration conditions. Alternatively, hire a dairy company to place your orders regularly. Any dairy company can make quark or cottage cheese at 2% or even less.
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Hi Catherine,
I was just going through my emails and came across yours.
Were you successful with your goat milk projects?
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Thanks,
Kalona
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On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 09:53:32 AM HST, Catherine Gill via groups.io <kgill@...> wrote:
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Hi everyone,? I've been using goat yogurt since I cannot tolerate cow dairy and cannot locate the goat variety of cottage cheese for purchase.? It had been keeping me alive and somewhat healthy, but I have not gotten fully better.? I now have my own goats who have given birth.? I will start milking them in the near future.? I am hoping to make goat quark.? If that is impossible, then goat cottage cheese.? If anyone has any recipes, tips, advice, or guidance that they would like to share, I would appreciate it.
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Thank you!
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Yes that¡¯s maybe true for the cancer, but since I¡¯m on the diet 2 and half months now, my BP is normal, my thrombus in liver vein is gone and stubborn toenails infection is gone too, my skin is so much better and softer, and also my energy levels is so much up, so the diet is definitely working . Cheers?
Goran
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Hi Margarita,
Greek yogurt has roughly the same amount of protein as German quark and cottage cheese. ?All three are rich in the amino acids - methionine and cysteine- which Dr. Budwig said are needed to form the bond with the flaxseed oil, therefore they all work. ?Greek yogurt is made the same way as German quark - combining milk and a starter culture and draining off the whey to complete the process. ?
I am retired and must live on a very tight budget and high inflation has made it more difficult. ?For example, I used to buy all organic produce, but I cannot do this anymore. ?Instead, I buy the ¡°clean fifteen¡±, those fruits and vegetables that have the least pesticides. ?If you do an internet search for ¡°clean fifteen¡±and ¡°dirty dozen¡± (produce with the highest amount of pesticides), you can see the lists. Then I soak them for 2 minutes in a solution of 2 cups of water and a teaspoon of baking soda, which has been proven to remove the remaining pesticide residue. ?I cannot afford to pay $6.00 for one organic eggplant, so I buy conventional eggplant for $1.50 and soak and peel it. ?I use my savings to buy organic greens. ?It is impossible for me to buy all organic. ?
So, not to worry! ?
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Very best,
Marilyn
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Hi Margarita?
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If the Greek yoghurt you are using has at least 10g of protein per 100g, it would mean that the yoghurt has already been strained to increase the protein density.
Here in the UK, my mother (for preventative measures) has, for the last 12 years, used "Fage" Greek yoghurt for her focc.
The ingredients are the same as Quark, but Quark typically has 12g of protein per 100g.
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Kind regards
Julie
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I'm pretty sure that yoghurt has to be strained to increase protein content relative to liquid.
On Wed, 14 Aug 2024 at 11:12, Margarita Petrie via <Mfpetrie= [email protected]> wrote:
I had been using organic Greek plain yogurt. I¡¯m very poor and it¡¯s all I can afford. Is it not working with the oil?? ? Dr. B was vegan and didn't want to incorporate any more animal fat than necessary. The important thing is the protein level, there is a minimum but no maximum. The protocol also calls for organic cottage cheese, but myself and several others here have proven that to be unnecessary as well. I used low fat as well as full fat, whatever was available, none of it organic and I healed stage 4 lung cancer.
I see people claiming that the order in which the ingredients are mixed matters, which I also proved to be false because I just put it all in a tall beaker and mixed it up with the hand blender.
A few more grams of animal fat isn't going to make or break the results. Protein is what matters.
Rod in MN/USA
No, Dr. Budwig explains everything in her books, namely "Krebs" and "Der Tod des Tumors: Band 1 und Band 2". In order to transport, access and assimilate the oil/oxygen, the quark/cottage vehicle must be very low in fat.
And that's it.
Data: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 13:27:35 +0000 (UTC)
Assunto: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] making quark from goat milk
Honestly, the fat content is a minor detail. If all you can get is full fat, it will still work for the protocol.
Rod in MN/USA
Hi Catherine,?
I just wanted to point out to many of the members of this site that both Dr. Budwig and the Budwig Center have always insisted on using quark or cottage cheese with a maximum of 2% fat. The rest doesn't work. If it doesn't exist in your country or region, then get together and import it from abroad under good refrigeration conditions. Alternatively, hire a dairy company to place your orders regularly. Any dairy company can make quark or cottage cheese at 2% or even less.
Data: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 04:50:01 +0000 (UTC)
Assunto: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] making quark from goat milk
Hi Catherine,
I was just going through my emails and came across yours.
Were you successful with your goat milk projects?
Thanks,
Kalona
On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 09:53:32 AM HST, Catherine Gill via <kgill= [email protected]> wrote:
Hi everyone,? I've been using goat yogurt since I cannot tolerate cow dairy and cannot locate the goat variety of cottage cheese for purchase.? It had been keeping me alive and somewhat healthy, but I have not gotten fully better.? I now have my own goats who have given birth.? I will start milking them in the near future.? I am hoping to make goat quark.? If that is impossible, then goat cottage cheese.? If anyone has any recipes, tips, advice, or guidance that they would like to share, I would appreciate it.
Thank you!
Sent using Hushmail
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Then, unfortunately, you don¡¯t know if the Budwig diet works Sent from the ghetto?
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On Aug 13, 2024, at 4:04?PM, Goran Medic via groups.io <medicdg@...> wrote:
? Hi friends,
Just a quick update. I have got advanced GIST , been on BD for about 7 weeks before my first CT scan, all tumours are significantly shrinking in size and density and I feel great. The oncologist was pleasantly surprised and just said keep doing what you have been doing!!! I must say I was on combine orthodox and on BD protocol. I know that Dr B didn¡¯t like that approach but not brave enough to do only BP.?
Cheers
Goran
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Hi there,
Just out of interest, how long did it take you to heal ?medical conditions ?
Cheers
Goran
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Re: making quark from goat milk
I had been using organic Greek plain yogurt. I¡¯m very poor and it¡¯s all I can afford. Is it not working with the oil??
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On Aug 13, 2024, at 4:24?PM, Rod Holmgren via groups.io <s4sindus@...> wrote:
? Dr. B was vegan and didn't want to incorporate any more animal fat than necessary. The important thing is the protein level, there is a minimum but no maximum. The protocol also calls for organic cottage cheese, but myself and several others here have proven that to be unnecessary as well. I used low fat as well as full fat, whatever was available, none of it organic and I healed stage 4 lung cancer.
I see people claiming that the order in which the ingredients are mixed matters, which I also proved to be false because I just put it all in a tall beaker and mixed it up with the hand blender.
A few more grams of animal fat isn't going to make or break the results. Protein is what matters.
Rod in MN/USA
On Tuesday, August 13, 2024 at 12:50:40 PM CDT, <orlandocrsantos@...> wrote:
No, Dr. Budwig explains everything in her books, namely "Krebs" and "Der Tod des Tumors: Band 1 und Band 2". In order to transport, access and assimilate the oil/oxygen, the quark/cottage vehicle must be very low in fat.
And that's it.
----- Mensagem de Rod Holmgren via groups.io < s4sindus@...> --------- Data: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 13:27:35 +0000 (UTC)
Assunto: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] making quark from goat milk
Honestly, the fat content is a minor detail. If all you can get is full fat, it will still work for the protocol.
Rod in MN/USA
On Tuesday, August 13, 2024 at 07:41:28 AM CDT, <orlandocrsantos@...> wrote:
Hi Catherine,?
I just wanted to point out to many of the members of this site that both Dr. Budwig and the Budwig Center have always insisted on using quark or cottage cheese with a maximum of 2% fat. The rest doesn't work. If it doesn't exist in your country or region, then get together and import it from abroad under good refrigeration conditions. Alternatively, hire a dairy company to place your orders regularly. Any dairy company can make quark or cottage cheese at 2% or even less.
----- Mensagem de sharon Ortiz via groups.io < kalona44@...> --------- Data: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 04:50:01 +0000 (UTC)
Assunto: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] making quark from goat milk
Hi Catherine,
I was just going through my emails and came across yours.
Were you successful with your goat milk projects?
Thanks,
Kalona
On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 09:53:32 AM HST, Catherine Gill via groups.io <kgill@...> wrote:
Hi everyone,? I've been using goat yogurt since I cannot tolerate cow dairy and cannot locate the goat variety of cottage cheese for purchase.? It had been keeping me alive and somewhat healthy, but I have not gotten fully better.? I now have my own goats who have given birth.? I will start milking them in the near future.? I am hoping to make goat quark.? If that is impossible, then goat cottage cheese.? If anyone has any recipes, tips, advice, or guidance that they would like to share, I would appreciate it.
Thank you!
Sent using Hushmail
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That¡¯s wonderful news, Goran!
Very best,
Marilyn
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Marilyn Frasier