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Re: New Postee

Paul Cates
 

According to Edo Erasamus, it does.

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "dazmolikeit" <slickpicker@c...>
wrote:
--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Paul Cates" <paerca@h...>
wrote:
I also take CLA and that is supposed to create an imbalance quicker
than the 2-3 months.
Paul,

Did you mean that CLA is supposed to CORRECT an imbalance quicker
than
the 2-3 months?

Regards,
Terry


Re: flaxseed oil and champagne

 

Hi Barb, The reason I think Dr. Budwig used champagne (and she
wass VERY specific about this)was to enhance absorption of the oil in
patients who could consume much volume. I don't know the exact
biochemistry of this (perhaps Wilhelm has some info in this regard)
but she did not say brandy,wine,etc- so I'm sure it had a particular
chemical significance-not a mood-enhancer.
Regards, Mike>

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Re: F/O and Champagne for the extremely ill

 

Dear Mike, Thank you for sharing that experience with Jose. It makes me so sad. I pray he is in a better place.

Kelly W.



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HI Group (Wie gehts Wilhelm?),


5-LOX Inhibitors

 

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Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 12:46:19 -0000
From: "Paul Cates" <paerca@...>
Subject: Re: Paul: 5-lo inhibitors

Barb,
The progression, as I understand it, is that aracihdonic acid (from
eating beef) is converted into 5-HETE (the substance cancer eats)
through 5-lo. 5-lo inhibitors are many times also cox-2 inhibitors
(the ones that the doc prescribes for arthritis etc) They are
finding that some of these cox-2 inhibitors also inhibit 5-lo and
therefore inhibit 5-HETE which is in turn is supposed to starve the
cancer. Among the list of cox-2 inhibitors are: aspirin, ibuprofen,
celebrex and naturals like gingerol, curcumin and boswellia. Some of
the cox-2 inhibitors are also reported to help with apoptosis (cell
death cycle).

Paul


Re: flaxseed oil and champagne

Barb
 

I wonder why the flaxseed oil and champagne for
extremely ill. Would flaxseed oil with raw honey
do any good for people less sick do you think??
Do you think the champagne chaser was to kill the
taste or lift the mood??? I don't tolerate
alcohol too well.
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Re: Brain tumour first scan clear!

trudy202002
 

Anna,

Yes please email me directly - I have some info and can probably help
to locate some Drs. I am in Sydney. I have also got a fair bit of
info documented that I can forward to you.





--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., robert farkas <radjfarkas@y...>
wrote:
Trudy,
Its always good to hear positive feedback. I live in
Australi and I was wondering if you would mind if I
wrote to your e-mail address directly on information
on how to find a local practitioner who can monitor my
progress and also getting laetrile treatment. Everyone
I have asked on where there might be someone knows
nothing about the Budwig or other treatments. Love
Anna






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Re: F/O and Champagne for the extremely ill

yang xu
 

Has anyone used fo/cc void ascites? Right now, my mom
has excessive ascites, and I am pursuading her to try
Budwig. Your example will be very encouraging to her
and me!

regards,
-yang


--- mikeciell <mikeciell@...> wrote:

HI Group (Wie gehts Wilhelm?),

I haven't posted in a while but I thought this may
be of interest. My
friend Jose passed away last Sunday most likely due
to the effects of
a chemo-regimen his doctor talked him to getting.
The Dr. swore this
was the ONLY way he would be able to travel to Spain
to see his
family. A week later the "Dr." turned him over to
Hospice and went on
vacation! Prior to this Jose was 'holding his own'.
As he lay in bed,
he reminded me of "E.T"- bony chest and arms and a
big swollen belly-
the ascites (fluid) was terrible and his testacles
looked like 2 pink
water balloons.
On Friday,I knew he was dying (he couldn't eat
because of all the
narcotics they were giving him), and I thought of
Dr. Budwig's
proceedure using 8 oz. of FO, some raw honey and
champagne for "in
extremis" patients. So I bought a bottle of
champagne (wondering what
the hospice people would say)and talked the nurse
into letting me see
if he would take it. She got interested and we
decided to give him 2
oz. of oil, a little honey, and about 5 oz of
champagne (just stirred
it all up in a glass- a gross looking 2-layer
concoction). He did
manage to keep it down and said it tasted good! (I
think I would mix
the oil and honey-let them sip it, then give a
champagne chaser-next
time though). I left for work and the nurse said she
would repeat it
before her shift was up and tell the next nurse to
continue the
proceedure. I returned about midnight and found out
the other shifts
thought this was "nuts" and stopped giving it to
him- put an IV
morphine line in his arm instead- at this point
there were alot of
his friends here and I didn't say anything-just
accepted this was the
end-he died early the next day-just as I got there
by the way.
Anyway, a few days later I ran into a woman who
used to be a
customer of mine when I was practising community
pharmacy. She was
helping to look after Jose (as part of a mediation
group Jose
belonged to). She told me that about 2 hours after
the second "dose"
of the FO/Champagne, Jose voided 1100 ML of fluid!
We both
thought 'what if' we could have continued with the
treatment. Once
again Dr. Budwig's brillance astounds me. You know
most people would
look at a person in Jose's condition and say 'he's a
goner', yet I
remembered the pictures of Civil War soldiers from
Andersonville or
the liberated prisoners of Auschwitz and they looked
like that (or
worse) yet many survived. The human body is truly a
remarkable
creation and when given the right nutrition is
capable of remarkable
things. Poisons beget death-I wonder why this is
such an alien
concept to "learned medical minds"- a second grader
can tell you that!
Jose had 7 months (instead of 3 weeks-that he was
told in January)
and I cherish the time we got to know each other. He
was a wonderful
man (over 200 people came to the 2 memorials that
where held for him
and his family)and I certainly learned alot: about
life, medicine and
Dr. Budwig. If I ever get another opportunity to
help some one with
this protocol, I will be a better "coach" thanks to
my experience
with Jose.
Regards to all, Mike





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Re: Brain tumour first scan clear!

robert farkas
 

Trudy,
Its always good to hear positive feedback. I live in
Australi and I was wondering if you would mind if I
wrote to your e-mail address directly on information
on how to find a local practitioner who can monitor my
progress and also getting laetrile treatment. Everyone
I have asked on where there might be someone knows
nothing about the Budwig or other treatments. Love
Anna






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Re: F/O and Champagne for the extremely ill

 

Hi Mike:
What a wonderful story. Thank-you for sharing it with us.
God Bless you for trying to help that poor man.
Flo

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "mikeciell" <mikeciell@y...>
wrote:
HI Group (Wie gehts Wilhelm?),

I haven't posted in a while but I thought this may be of interest.
My
friend Jose passed away last Sunday most likely due to the effects
of
a chemo-regimen his doctor talked him to getting. The Dr. swore
this
was the ONLY way he would be able to travel to Spain to see his
family. A week later the "Dr." turned him over to Hospice and went
on
vacation! Prior to this Jose was 'holding his own'. As he lay in
bed,
he reminded me of "E.T"- bony chest and arms and a big swollen
belly-
the ascites (fluid) was terrible and his testacles looked like 2
pink
water balloons.
On Friday,I knew he was dying (he couldn't eat because of all
the
narcotics they were giving him), and I thought of Dr. Budwig's
proceedure using 8 oz. of FO, some raw honey and champagne for "in
extremis" patients. So I bought a bottle of champagne (wondering
what
the hospice people would say)and talked the nurse into letting me
see
if he would take it. She got interested and we decided to give him
2
oz. of oil, a little honey, and about 5 oz of champagne (just
stirred
it all up in a glass- a gross looking 2-layer concoction). He did
manage to keep it down and said it tasted good! (I think I would
mix
the oil and honey-let them sip it, then give a champagne chaser-
next
time though). I left for work and the nurse said she would repeat
it
before her shift was up and tell the next nurse to continue the
proceedure. I returned about midnight and found out the other
shifts
thought this was "nuts" and stopped giving it to him- put an IV
morphine line in his arm instead- at this point there were alot of
his friends here and I didn't say anything-just accepted this was
the
end-he died early the next day-just as I got there by the way.
Anyway, a few days later I ran into a woman who used to be a
customer of mine when I was practising community pharmacy. She was
helping to look after Jose (as part of a mediation group Jose
belonged to). She told me that about 2 hours after the
second "dose"
of the FO/Champagne, Jose voided 1100 ML of fluid! We both
thought 'what if' we could have continued with the treatment. Once
again Dr. Budwig's brillance astounds me. You know most people
would
look at a person in Jose's condition and say 'he's a goner', yet I
remembered the pictures of Civil War soldiers from Andersonville
or
the liberated prisoners of Auschwitz and they looked like that (or
worse) yet many survived. The human body is truly a remarkable
creation and when given the right nutrition is capable of
remarkable
things. Poisons beget death-I wonder why this is such an alien
concept to "learned medical minds"- a second grader can tell you
that!
Jose had 7 months (instead of 3 weeks-that he was told in
January)
and I cherish the time we got to know each other. He was a
wonderful
man (over 200 people came to the 2 memorials that where held for
him
and his family)and I certainly learned alot: about life, medicine
and
Dr. Budwig. If I ever get another opportunity to help some one
with
this protocol, I will be a better "coach" thanks to my experience
with Jose.
Regards to all, Mike


F/O and Champagne for the extremely ill

 

HI Group (Wie gehts Wilhelm?),

I haven't posted in a while but I thought this may be of interest. My
friend Jose passed away last Sunday most likely due to the effects of
a chemo-regimen his doctor talked him to getting. The Dr. swore this
was the ONLY way he would be able to travel to Spain to see his
family. A week later the "Dr." turned him over to Hospice and went on
vacation! Prior to this Jose was 'holding his own'. As he lay in bed,
he reminded me of "E.T"- bony chest and arms and a big swollen belly-
the ascites (fluid) was terrible and his testacles looked like 2 pink
water balloons.
On Friday,I knew he was dying (he couldn't eat because of all the
narcotics they were giving him), and I thought of Dr. Budwig's
proceedure using 8 oz. of FO, some raw honey and champagne for "in
extremis" patients. So I bought a bottle of champagne (wondering what
the hospice people would say)and talked the nurse into letting me see
if he would take it. She got interested and we decided to give him 2
oz. of oil, a little honey, and about 5 oz of champagne (just stirred
it all up in a glass- a gross looking 2-layer concoction). He did
manage to keep it down and said it tasted good! (I think I would mix
the oil and honey-let them sip it, then give a champagne chaser-next
time though). I left for work and the nurse said she would repeat it
before her shift was up and tell the next nurse to continue the
proceedure. I returned about midnight and found out the other shifts
thought this was "nuts" and stopped giving it to him- put an IV
morphine line in his arm instead- at this point there were alot of
his friends here and I didn't say anything-just accepted this was the
end-he died early the next day-just as I got there by the way.
Anyway, a few days later I ran into a woman who used to be a
customer of mine when I was practising community pharmacy. She was
helping to look after Jose (as part of a mediation group Jose
belonged to). She told me that about 2 hours after the second "dose"
of the FO/Champagne, Jose voided 1100 ML of fluid! We both
thought 'what if' we could have continued with the treatment. Once
again Dr. Budwig's brillance astounds me. You know most people would
look at a person in Jose's condition and say 'he's a goner', yet I
remembered the pictures of Civil War soldiers from Andersonville or
the liberated prisoners of Auschwitz and they looked like that (or
worse) yet many survived. The human body is truly a remarkable
creation and when given the right nutrition is capable of remarkable
things. Poisons beget death-I wonder why this is such an alien
concept to "learned medical minds"- a second grader can tell you that!
Jose had 7 months (instead of 3 weeks-that he was told in January)
and I cherish the time we got to know each other. He was a wonderful
man (over 200 people came to the 2 memorials that where held for him
and his family)and I certainly learned alot: about life, medicine and
Dr. Budwig. If I ever get another opportunity to help some one with
this protocol, I will be a better "coach" thanks to my experience
with Jose.
Regards to all, Mike


Re: nncav: Avacodos and Meat

nncav
 

lol. that was funny. avacado hamburger :).

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., Barb <barb1283@y...> wrote:
Hi,
Someone said in outlining diet that they used
avocados instead of meat. I didn't get that. I
read the digest so I don't drag part of the post
with my message, sorry.

I will try to remember to cut and paste a portion
of it so it is clear what I am responding to.
Barb

..>
From: "nncav" <organicryan@h...>
Subject: Re: Avacodos and Meat

By putting it in a hamburger bun?

Well :), avacados as a meat substitute, what made

you think of that
Barbra?




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nncav: Avacodos and Meat

Barb
 

Hi,
Someone said in outlining diet that they used
avocados instead of meat. I didn't get that. I
read the digest so I don't drag part of the post
with my message, sorry.

I will try to remember to cut and paste a portion
of it so it is clear what I am responding to.
Barb

..>
From: "nncav" <organicryan@...>
Subject: Re: Avacodos and Meat

By putting it in a hamburger bun?

Well :), avacados as a meat substitute, what made

you think of that
Barbra?




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Re: No One aswered me on this issue?

Cheryl du Toit
 

Hi Boricua,

I do not know this method but it sounds very similar to the BEST (Bio energy
stress testing) and with that I have some first hand experience. You can
read about it here It is to
my knowledge the most wonderful test one can do for health. This test
measures in detail, what vitamin and mineral deficiencies one might have and
a diet is then prescribed according to the results of the test. The diet
will then include the foods to eat to restore the balance of the
deficiencies. It is quite expensive though, but it will also reveal all the
foods that you might be allergic to and what to avoid in the diet. I have
seen magnificent results in very ill people after having had this test.
What I found fascinating about this test is the fact that the doctor sat
next to me, and called out certain foods - The ones that he called out that
I didn't like showed a very negative reading on the test, so inherently we
more often than not know without realizing it, what foods to eat and what to
avoid. We simply need to tune in to that inner voice of wisdom. Hope I don
t sound too way out :-)

Fascinating stuff!!
Cheryl

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From: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Date: 03 August 2004 03:11:21 PM
To: cancercured@...; flaxseedoil2@...
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] No One aswered me on this issue?

Has anyone done this, I was suggested by a wise women to get this done. She
insisted that many people she knows have done extremely well with this
method. As I placed it on the search engine I found many pages on this
topic, here is an example



I hope this is a light for someone out there.

Blessings.
Boricua


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Re: Avacodos and Meat

Jennifer Buck
 

Happily! (I hope I didn't end up posting this twice...I apoligize in
advance if you all are seeing this post more than once.)

Some of the ingredients are for a chipolte ketchup that can be served on the
burger. If you don't want that then you could skip that part of the recipe.
It will cancel out a few of the ingredients.

The ingredients are as follows:

1 1/4 Cups dried black beans, picked over and rinsed, soaked overnight, and
drained

3 Cups water

1 bay leaf

2 plum tomatoes, peeled and seeded, then diced

1 yellow onion, chopped

4 cloves garlic, minced

1 Tbsp tomato paste

1 Tbsp wine vinegar

1 chipolte chili minced

1 3/4 tsps ground cumin

1 tsp salt

1 1/2 Tbsps canola oil (I use olive and just a very little...it's used to
saute the veg's so you could use whatever you like or nothing at all)

1/2 red bell pepper, seeded and chopped

1/2 Cup cooked brown rice

1/4 cup chopped pecans (I would think that you could replace these with
another nut if you wanted to...I'm not sure what the omega 6 to omega 3
ratio is with this nut)

1 green onion, thinly sliced

1 egg, lightly beaten

3/4 cups fresh whole-grain bread crumbs

6 whole-grain hamburger buns (I use Ezekiel sprouted wheat)

garnish with lettuce, onion, tomato...whatever you like

To prepare:

In a large sauce pan over high heat, combine the beans, water, and bay leaf.
Bring to a boil. Reduce the heat to low, cover partially, and simmer until
the beans are tender, 60-70 minutes. Drain and discard the bay leaf

For the ketchup:

combine the tomatoes, half the yellow onion, half of the garlic, the tomato
paste, vinegar, chipotle chile, 3/4 tsp of the cumin, and 1/4 tsp of the
salt in a small saucepan over medium-high heat. Bring the mixture to a boil.
Reduce the heat to medium and simmer uncovered, stirring occasionally, until
the liquid is reduced and the mixture is a thick sacue. Set aside to cool.

Heat 1/2 Tbsp of the oil over medium heat. Add the remaining yellow onion
and saute until soft and translucent. Add the bell pepper and the remaining
garlic and saute until they begin to soften. Stir in 1/4 tsp of the salt and
transfer the mixture to a bowl and let cool.

In a food processor, combine the drained beans, the onion mixture, the brown
rice, pecans, green onion, the remaining 1 tsp cumin, and the remaining 1/2
tsp salt. Pulse several times until the mixture is coarsely prueed. Fold in
the beaten egg and bread crumbs. Form the mixture into patties each 3/4 inch
thick.

(Next the recipe says to: In the same pan used for the onion mixture, heat
the remaining 1 Tbsp canola oil over medium-high heat. Add the patties and
cook, turning once, until nicely browned on both sides and heated through,
7-9 minutes total. ....I just cook mine on the Forman grill without adding
any additional oil.)

Serve as desired.

I hope you enjoy these as much as I do. I got the recipe from The New Mayo
Clinic Cookbook. There are some really great recipes in this book. I think
it was a great buy. There is a lot of prep with these burgers but it makes
quite a bit. I freeze all that my family wont be eating and then just cook
them as needed.

Let me know what you think and have a wonderful day!

Jennifer

-----Original Message-----
From: Kelly Wortkoetter [mailto:kellykebby@...]
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 9:33 PM
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Subject: RE: [FlaxSeedOil2] Avacodos and Meat


that sounds good Please post it. Thanks, Kelly

Jennifer Buck <buck@...> wrote:
If anyone is interested...I have a great black bean burger recipe. If you
ever miss a juicy hamburger I swear this is the next best thing! All
that's











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Re: Paul: 5-lo inhibitors

Paul Cates
 

Barb,
The progression, as I understand it, is that aracihdonic acid (from
eating beef) is converted into 5-HETE (the substance cancer eats)
through 5-lo. 5-lo inhibitors are many times also cox-2 inhibitors
(the ones that the doc prescribes for arthritis etc) They are
finding that some of these cox-2 inhibitors also inhibit 5-lo and
therefore inhibit 5-HETE which is in turn is supposed to starve the
cancer. Among the list of cox-2 inhibitors are: aspirin, ibuprofen,
celebrex and naturals like gingerol, curcumin and boswellia. Some of
the cox-2 inhibitors are also reported to help with apoptosis (cell
death cycle).

Paul

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., Barb <barb1283@y...> wrote:
Paul,
What is " almost
all of the natural 5-
lo inhibitors I can find."?
Not a list of them but what are they- 5-lo
inhibitors?, what kind o substances?
Thanks.
Barb

..>
Paul wronte:
(Zyfkamend and added
ginger and I am still
looking for boswellia) I also take ellagic acid
and eat lots of red
raspberries.





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No One aswered me on this issue?

 

Has anyone done this, I was suggested by a wise women to get this done. She insisted that many people she knows have done extremely well with this method. As I placed it on the search engine I found many pages on this topic, here is an example



I hope this is a light for someone out there.

Blessings.
Boricua


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For Cliff, Re: Prostate

nncav
 

hmm, those links go to another page first. this is the table of
contents page, the ones i posted
are called Male Formula, Prostate Formula, Super Ginseng Blend.

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "nncav" <organicryan@h...> wrote:
Cliff,

This is what I know for it. Have you ever tried Mr. Schultz's
products? They are very powerful. He would say that about %80 of
his patients after doing the bowl cleans,
, would get better and didn't get a
chance to use any of his herbal formula on them. lol Good job
Schultz. :thumbsup:







Ryan


Re: OT--avocados & cancer

 

Unrelated to meat(-substitution), I've read the following about
avocado:
They protect liver, contain abscisic acid & enzymes, and have other
anticancer properties (e.g., contain lutein; "purified avocado
extract...mannoheptulose...inhibited tumor cell glucose uptake by 25
to 75 percent, and it inhibited the enzyme glucokinase responsible for
glycolysis. It also inhibited the growth rate"
www.mercola.com/article/sugar/sugar_cancer.htm)


Re: Avacodos and Meat

 

that sounds good Please post it. Thanks, Kelly

Jennifer Buck <buck@...> wrote:
If anyone is interested...I have a great black bean burger recipe. If you
ever miss a juicy hamburger I swear this is the next best thing! All that's


Re: Avacodos and Meat

Jennifer Buck
 

If anyone is interested...I have a great black bean burger recipe. If you
ever miss a juicy hamburger I swear this is the next best thing! All that's
in it is black beans, brown rice, onion, bell pepper and garlic, and spices.

-----Original Message-----
From: Barb [mailto:barb1283@...]
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 8:00 PM
To: fso
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Avacodos and Meat


How can you substitute raw avacados for meat??
There is not protein or little in avacodos,
beneficial fats, probably chlorophil, Vitamin A
but why would one consider that a substitute for
meat. Protein is very important to the body,
perhaps the most important element, avacodos
won't supply the important amino acids that are
needed for everything in the body.




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