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Sent from my iPhone ¡ª Prolly ?\_(¥Ä)_/? Over/Out.
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Excavate! - Dutch review
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Surprised to see a (Dutch) review of ¡°Excavate!¡± in our most prestigious national newspaper! https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2021/07/28/mark-e-smith-van-the-fall-instrueerde-zijn-collegas-in-godsnaam-niet-improviseren-a4052720 Arjan
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Sure I like The Fall & MES! Doesn¡¯t Everybody? :-)
Too much disposable cash $$ monies?? Maybe ?\_(¥Ä)_/? ie have had following cds for coupla months now & have yet to remove shrink-wrapping etc. (*) Will soon do ¡®deep dive¡¯ & listen to The Fall/MES, a music group that¡¯s been scratching back of throat. Am very glad/relieved/pleased have decent back catalogue of their commercial releases etc. (*) Imperial Wax Solvent - 3 CD Edition (*) Wonderful & Frightening World of The Fall [16 Trax] (*) Bend Sinister / Domesday Pay-Off Triad - Plus! [2 CD] (*) Perverted By Language - 2 CD [Expanded Edition] (*) Dragnet - 3 CD set (*) The Fall - Albums 5 (*) Post-TLC Reformation! (*) Real New Fall LP - Formerly ¡®Country On The Click¡¯ **** Note - 1st Fall - CD ¡®Box Set¡¯ purchased was one that included Oswalt Defence Lawyer + 2 other cds. Don¡¯t really care what F*ckface Fallnet thought of said pre-pkged set. Thought it was great ?! (*) Note: Am currently listening to Dinosaur jr cd.. ie also have buncha J Mascis stuff that!s still shrink-wrapped. Okay, Over/Out. Yr American friend over the pond. **** Also, have been partaking/drinking beer today. Only 3 cans (25 ozs. each)
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non-sequitur response Re: Bruce Dickinson interviewing MES
I was listening to a couple of tracks from Bruce's funner cousin earlier From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Adam Marshall <adam.marshall@...> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2021 4:52 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: [FallNet] Bruce Dickinson interviewing MES I hadn¡¯t heard this before; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmgBoMtmjDI ad
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Bruce Dickinson interviewing MES
I hadn¡¯t heard this before; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmgBoMtmjDI ad
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You didn't see me, right?
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I assume everybody knows this: https://www.guitars101.com/search/612937/?q=the+fall&o=relevance adam
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lede: "Fans of the Fall are nuts."
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Oddly enough, there's an article about The Fall in the Washington Post today.. Because it has a paywall, I'll just bung it up here for y'all. Please don't report me: By Mina Tavakoli July 16, 2021|Updated today at 7:04 a.m. EDT 1 Fans of the Fall are nuts. They¡¯ll foam at the mouth for the barky sound of the Manchester post-punk band. They¡¯ll go cross-eyed for its kingpin, Mark E. Smith (who died in 2018), the Fall¡¯s only single common human denominator since his ejection of close to 50 members during its 38-year run. They¡¯ll talk at length about his Lovecraftian lyrics ¡ª so strange and roily that decades-old online forums exist to parse Smith out like scripture. They¡¯ll describe the way their hard-boiled menace looked remarkably exactly as he sounded. (Lumpen, coughed-up, part-goblin.) They¡¯ll go on about how he was an ass, a lush, a lout, and ¡ª this is a word used both loadedly and lovingly ¡ª a prophet. Three years after Smith¡¯s burial, we now seem to be in a crucial hour for Fall-related retrospection. Across the next year, a grip of new analytical and biographical texts are set to publish, four record labels are releasing the band¡¯s bootlegs, and a posthumous horror screenplay of Smith¡¯s will be put to print. For the bookish, the bummed, and the British, the Fall represent a fading type of bedlam brought on by the presence of a true punk anti-hero. What could feel more foreign in the contemporary white music landscape ¡ª so soaked in virtue ¡ª than a hostile, heavy-drinking, working-class shaman? This fact was likely at least part of the animus guiding the publication of a fresh essay collection by editors Tessa Norton and Bob Stanley (the latter known for his work with the British synth-poppers Saint ?tienne), which assembles a bouquet of artists, novelists and critics rhapsodizing on and about the Fall. In practice, ¡°Excavate! The Wonderful and Frightening World of the Fall¡± actually works a little like a museum exhibition, a bit like a eulogy and a lot like pornography for Fall fans. This is not in the pejorative: Museum exhibitions, eulogies and pornography are necessarily soothing formats, and in the void left by one of the most constellatory men in the history of music made with guitars, the book is a largely satisfying shrine to Smith¡¯s legacy less so as a man than as a primary text. As contributor Mark Sinker points out in the collection, Smith and the Fall pose ¡°a veritable plague of rabbit burrows, with every momentary landing surface becoming another hole, and holes generating holes generating holes.¡± The book, in turn, takes the only plausible route in: it punctures its own portals into the band by way of sideways and obtuse angles; it explodes its frontman¡¯s lingering spirit like a grenade thrown into a deep pit. True to the Fall, ¡°Excavate!¡± hurtles downward into the psychogeography of Smith¡¯s gospel, flinging hot and strange shrapnel in its wake. With all respect to any rabid Fall fan, Smith¡¯s voice really does demand a little exegesis. It is the color red. It bleats like a siren. He yells as a man in a permanent tug of war between a fresh rip of speed and a stomach full of lager. Just as Barthes described the castrato Farinelli, whose voice was ¡°as incredible for its duration as for its emission,¡± so too is Smith¡¯s nasal squall, understandable only in about three out of every ten lyrics he not so much sings as disgorges. (Courtesy of Faber Books USA) Reared in the canonically joyless Mancunian suburb of Salford, any Fall biography (and there are lots of them) will latch onto several footholds to help scale the tower of the thunderously crotchety Smith. He proudly worked in a meat factory, then on shipping docks, then had his consciousness scrambled after reading life-defining works by the likes of H.P. Lovecraft, M.R. James and Arthur Machen. Out of the snarled-up ring roads of a decaying industrial heartland, a mess of trade union politics, occult theology and pulp horror fiction, he formed an entropic system of signal and noise he would eventually call the Fall. The chaos of the Fall was most clearly
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Dok you
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Do we all know this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SoICqXUgMM Grant Showbiz talks about a version of Imperial Wax Solvent that never saw the light of day but which he thinks is much better than the released version. adam
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Oh brother
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I just listened to all of the oh brother podcasts yesterday ¨C if you haven¡¯t, you should ¨C and a couple of things stuck out. One was Keiron Melling insisting that, a number of years ago, MES was considering putting one of the original line-ups back together to capitalise on the current trend. The Hanleys were very sceptical. The other, which was mentioned twice, was that they recorded Code Selfish in Glasgow but then dumped the recordings and rerecorded it in its entirety. One of the nice ideas behind the podcasts, so says Hanley Jnr, was to steer away from the myth that MES was an absolute tyrant all the time and paint him in a better light. There¡¯s some really funny stories about MES¡¯s mischievousness in there: Keiron was saying that when MES discovered their dressing room was full of hippy types, he sent him in to clear the room. Keiron said he hated doing that, and when he¡¯d made his awkward speech, MES walks in and say ¡°don¡¯t listen to him, you¡¯re fine to stay¡±. adam
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Paul Saxton
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Wasn't Paul Saxton on Fallnet yonks ago? Regardless, his family needs financial help following his massive and debilitating stroke two months ago. https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/paul-saxton-physio
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why no Second Dark Age lyrics analysis on Doomby?
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"Second Dark Age," from offa Early Fall, led off my radio show tonight, so I thought I'd take a peek at the Annotated Fall Lyrics site at http://annotatedfall.doomby.com/, but -- no SDA to be found! Unless I'm missing something.. JC
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Eye Eye
Sorry for this being completely off topic, but does anyone know of a decent online forum or group for discussion of health matters, specifically EYE health? I'm mostly after comparing notes with people who have had the same eye surgery, symptoms etc. I understand of course that anything online is going to be full of bad advice, snake oil salesmen, lies etc etc, and will approach with suitable caution. Or has anyone else here had an epiretinal membrane removed and is happy to talk about it off-list? Or had / have persistant blue field entoptic phenomenon? (That thing where you see the white blood cells moving around the capillaries) Pete
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Everybody hears the hum at 3am
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https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/jul/07/the-hum-mystery-noise-says-a-lot-about-modern-life
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MES' House up for sale..
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https://www.burytimes.co.uk/news/19411938.fans-sadness-falls-mark-e-smiths-prestwich-home-put-sale/ JC
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Detective Instinct
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So in the flyer below (for Perverted by Language), it mentions three (or possibly 4) upcoming songs not on the album: CREEP New Friend Moveable Backdrop So what¡¯s New Friend when it¡¯s at home? I¡¯m assuming Movable Backdrop is just Backdrop and not two separate tracks. ad
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Lost and altered Fall stuff
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Reminded by the various Fall podcasts and my own memory, but what are the remaining holy grails still to find, that we actually think exist? Versions: Frightened, recorded in the Bingo Masters session (keeps getting mentioned, never turns up) ? Sets: Rest of the Electric Circus set? Rest of the Groningen 1981 set (which has close to the best versions of Fantastic Life & NFiHell) ? Right songs, wrong speed*: Acklam Hall - my bugbear, but played at 109% sounds like all their other sets of the time (will give you +/- 1%). Great when speeded up, which is easier these days, really drags on original (cassette as well) Bend Sinister - speed and/or poor quality mastering according to reports? Sounds about right to me** * like Bob Stanley, my first LP was also Totale's Turns. What helped me a lot was playing bits of it at 45rpm. ** Reminded me of the Au Pairs second LP, which was rereleased in a slowed down version, supposed to be the original intention, ponderous and slurred vs the original.*** *** see the various other examples of the mismatch in artistic view/drugs vs the artist/producer
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You've all seen this, yes?
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https://www.brooklynvegan.com/bob-stanley-tessa-norton-talk-mark-e-smith-fall-fandom-and-their-new-book-excavate/ On Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 11:26 AM Adam Marshall <adam.marshall@...> wrote: I found some soundboard Fall FLACs that I didn¡¯t have. I haven¡¯t listened yet though From: <[email protected]> on behalf of Adam D Davidow <adam.davidow@...> Reply to: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, 24 June 2021 at 16:06 To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FallNet] You didn't see me, right? Wow, thank you. The Stranglers in Reseda 1983. Crazy. On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 7:12 AM olderbrothergert <harrygrimes@...> wrote: I didn¡¯t, Adam. Thanks for posting! Truly older brother Gert On Jun 24, 2021, at 4:06 AM, Adam Marshall <adam.marshall@...> wrote: I assume everybody knows this: https://www.guitars101.com/search/612937/?q=the+fall&o=relevance adam
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Cracking new Blue Orchids track
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tKfAFLztOg I don¡¯t know whether everyone knows but there¡¯s a new Blue Orchids album on the way and this track is utterly brilliant. It wouldn¡¯t sound out of place on The Greatest Hit and there¡¯s Fallness all over it. Ad-Am
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The Fall: A French Tribute
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Excuse of this has been posted here before. Been digging a French band called Crash Normal an LP of whom I found for $1, just bought it cuz the LP is white. Really good band actually, IMHO. Anyway started digging around internet looking for more Crash Normal and found this comp of French bands covering The Fall. https://teenagehaterecords.bandcamp.com/album/the-fall-a-french-tribute-thr1013 And Happy Father's Day to you dads arriving and playing guitars all night. Bye now.
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The Otherwise (warning: PhotoSpamCon, and, uhh, also, a post from me . . . ) [CAUTION: SPOILERS]
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And I got it today. See attached pics, all ye who ain't ordered it yet. (Note: I apologize for the poor quality of the pics, and my presence on Fallnet for the last 22 years. Gomenasai!) The Otherjohn :) p.s. I also apologize for spoilerating this for anyone who has ordered it, hasn't gotten it yet, was looking forward to being surprised, and ended up seeing all my pics.
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