New JC radio program email list
Hey all --?
I'm trying to get off of facebook -- basically the only thing I use it for anymore is for promoting and posting the playlists of my weekly college radio show, the WHAT YOU NEED radio program on WRUW-FM, 91.1 Cleveland. But I do like sharing my playlists and show archives to the world, so I decided to start a email list to make up for the loss of fb as my venue for that.?
If any of y'all are interested, you can find and subscribe to it here:? /g/whatyouneed
I haven't posted anything to it yet -- so far there are only 3 members; one of whom is myself, another is FallNet's very own Mark H. The third member is my friend Charlotte Pressler, the ex-wife of Peter Laughner and former member of the Cleveland and NYC band Red Dark Sweet. But I just created this thing yesterday, so it's very new still.?
Anyway -- I would love to have any of you aboard if you're interested. I'll basically just be posting my weekly playlists and a link to the archive download -- it's a pretty good radio show, if I do say so myself, but then again, everything I play on it is stuff that I like, so why shouldn't I think that? I'm sure many of you would find it terrible. But I do start each program off with a track by the mighty Fall, at least. And play an Ivor Cutler track at the midpoint of the 2 hour show. Add it to your podcast habits, maybe, I dunno. I'm not looking to make it a discussion list particularly, but I certainly wouldn't mind if that happened as well.?
I expect my first post to the list to be coming out next Tuesday morning, as the show usually runs on Monday nights from 11pm - 1am Eastern time on . You can download a high-quality archive of the show or listen to the streaming archive on the WRUW site -- I'll provide links to both.?
cheers JC
|
Pat was a massive fan of the Fall. It¡¯s fitting that both he and Smith passed in a somewhat similar fashion ¡ª selflessly gigging until the end was very nigh and never letting on how much pain they were in.
CC
Pat Fish, Jazz Butcher, RIP:
<>
Mark
|
No way. Ugh. He just had rescheduled a gig that he didn't make last week, didn't he? I'm nowhere near where he his but I saw it on Facebook.?
He brought me a lot of joy. When I was in high school, we were at the mall and had stopped in a chain record store to browse. An upperclassman was working in the store and kind of puffed his chest out and said he was the manager. We must not have looked impressed enough, because he bragged that he could give us free stuff. I pulled out "Bloody Nonsense" which I think was a US-only compilation of The Jazz Butcher songs from various releases, and he unlocked it from the anti-theft thingy and handed it to me. It began a long appreciation for Pat and Max and David and friends, and I paid for many more releases over the years. The version of "Human Jungle" on that cassette was superior to other versions I found later, I recall.
Bummed.
David
Pat Fish, Jazz Butcher, RIP:
<>
Mark
|
Pat Fish, Jazz Butcher, RIP:
<>
Mark
|
Re: John Godbert, cover artist for LATWT, strikes again..
Does Roy Montgomery play out much in Christchurch
(covid and all considered) as a general thing? Rarely, and I've never seen him play live even though I'm in Chch. Definitely a bucket list entry.? Mark
|
Re: John Godbert, cover artist for LATWT, strikes again..
Hello,
I used to collect everything that the Vibracathedral Orchestra released when I was in college and could still afford to buy multiple records a week, haha...
<3 Sean P.
I believe he also plays in Leeds-based wobbly-wonky-rattly ambient/drone outfit Vibracathedral Orchestra:
|
Re: John Godbert, cover artist for LATWT, strikes again..
Does Roy Montgomery play out much in Christchurch (covid and all considered) as a general thing?? ?He's never been the most frequent of visitors to the North Island. To me knowledge have only seen him once in Welly, a while back,? Accompanying shorts for one of Mark Williams' film collections in the (what is now the) portrait gallery building Shed.
stve
> Currently listening to this heavy-ambient thing on
> bandcamp by a groop called Hawthorne. Their new
> album has a cover by Godbert:
>
>?
I believe he also plays in Leeds-based wobbly-wonky-rattly ambient/drone outfit Vibracathedral Orchestra:
(It is currently Bandcamp Friday, by the way.)
And that Hawthorne album is good stuff - thanks for recommending it.
Ba Da Bing have released the last few Dead C albums and their offshoot label Grapefruit are releasing 4 albums by always-excellent Roy Montgomery this year.?
Mark
|
Re: John Godbert, cover artist for LATWT, strikes again..
Currently listening to this heavy-ambient thing on
bandcamp by a groop called Hawthorne. Their new
album has a cover by Godbert:
? I believe he also plays in Leeds-based wobbly-wonky-rattly ambient/drone outfit Vibracathedral Orchestra: (It is currently Bandcamp Friday, by the way.) And that Hawthorne album is good stuff - thanks for recommending it. Ba Da Bing have released the last few Dead C albums and their offshoot label Grapefruit are releasing 4 albums by always-excellent Roy Montgomery this year.? Mark
|
Yeah, the whole interview is great and talks about Bragg and others past and recent (well, it's been 20 years since the interview) stuff. I thought it was behind a paywall (I'm a subscriber) but looks like it actually isn't.
Agree with Cole.? Grant came round doing sound for Billy Bragg. Had a chat.? Bones of which were "Mark is brilliant but he's fucking mad". stve Showbiz is the business.
Then there's this:
CC
On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 2:54 PM David Bivins < dabivins@...> wrote: Apologies if this has been excerpted before. From TapeOp March/April 2000 issue:
(about Dragnet)
It was my first professional record. I did?Dragnet?in '79 and I suppose the last thing I did was this "Chilinist" thing, which I suspect is the basic track that they still used on the single, which must have been '97. The third album with The Fall was?Slates. Adrian Sherwood came in and did some time with it. He had the whole kind of snare mic'd up on the stairs, put through the reverb and then fed back in. I thought, "Okay, I like this. I'm not going to spend as long as Adrian does getting it, but if it happens, go with it." You've heard a sound, it's worked really well, and you spend 3 hours setting up in your studio and it just doesn't work. I've really learned lots of things like pointing the mic down away from the [kick drum] beater, make sure it's right in there. And then one day you don't do that, you mic it from the front. The mic is outside the drum and it sounds great, and you're like, "Oh my God! Everything I've learned is wrong." But I can look back at The Fall stuff and think, "I don't mind." It's looked upon as brilliant stuff. I think The Fall are probably the best band in the world. 20 years of sheer brilliance.
(about MES)
What you see is people going over their peak. Certainly with Mark E. Smith I was thinking, "Well you're not making sense anymore." It came to head for me when we made "Chilinest". I was up there working on it, and Craig Scanlon, who was one of the great guitarists of The Fall, had gotten a clarinet and we tried really hard to get it to work, to get a good sound. Then Mark heard it and said, "What the fuck is there a clarinet on this song for?" He told us to wipe it off the track. He went back to the pub and came back three hours later. We played the mix again and Mark was like, "This is shit. Where is the clarinet? That was the best thing on the track." I've seen Mark since then and he's much more stable now and I support him dearly ¡ª the last record he made was absolutely fantastic ¡ª but I just thought it's not for me. You make a decision. You say, "I can't do this anymore!" I'm very close to Mark, I'm in contact with him 8 or 9 times a year. The last time I saw him he was very, very sober after a lot of this trouble with the band and Steve Hanley finally leaving. So he cleaned up his act. He did say, "We should work together," and then I thought, "You've got to actually ask me to do this." I can't phone him up. He never did and I thought, "Okay, well, I'll leave this. I'll just carry on buying their records." As a kid, you think you're going to say to a cabbie, "I worked for The Fall. I've done about half a dozen albums. They're a seminal punk band." And the guy's like, "The Fall?"
|
John Godbert, cover artist for LATWT, strikes again..
Currently listening to this heavy-ambient thing on bandcamp by a groop called Hawthorne. Their new album has a cover by Godbert:
-- I personally like this kinda stuff, especially for falling asleep to..?
JC
|
Agree with Cole.? Grant came round doing sound for Billy Bragg. Had a chat.? Bones of which were "Mark is brilliant but he's fucking mad".
stve
Showbiz is the business.
Then there's this:
CC
On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 2:54 PM David Bivins < dabivins@...> wrote: Apologies if this has been excerpted before. From TapeOp March/April 2000 issue:
(about Dragnet)
It was my first professional record. I did?Dragnet?in '79 and I suppose the last thing I did was this "Chilinist" thing, which I suspect is the basic track that they still used on the single, which must have been '97. The third album with The Fall was?Slates. Adrian Sherwood came in and did some time with it. He had the whole kind of snare mic'd up on the stairs, put through the reverb and then fed back in. I thought, "Okay, I like this. I'm not going to spend as long as Adrian does getting it, but if it happens, go with it." You've heard a sound, it's worked really well, and you spend 3 hours setting up in your studio and it just doesn't work. I've really learned lots of things like pointing the mic down away from the [kick drum] beater, make sure it's right in there. And then one day you don't do that, you mic it from the front. The mic is outside the drum and it sounds great, and you're like, "Oh my God! Everything I've learned is wrong." But I can look back at The Fall stuff and think, "I don't mind." It's looked upon as brilliant stuff. I think The Fall are probably the best band in the world. 20 years of sheer brilliance.
(about MES)
What you see is people going over their peak. Certainly with Mark E. Smith I was thinking, "Well you're not making sense anymore." It came to head for me when we made "Chilinest". I was up there working on it, and Craig Scanlon, who was one of the great guitarists of The Fall, had gotten a clarinet and we tried really hard to get it to work, to get a good sound. Then Mark heard it and said, "What the fuck is there a clarinet on this song for?" He told us to wipe it off the track. He went back to the pub and came back three hours later. We played the mix again and Mark was like, "This is shit. Where is the clarinet? That was the best thing on the track." I've seen Mark since then and he's much more stable now and I support him dearly ¡ª the last record he made was absolutely fantastic ¡ª but I just thought it's not for me. You make a decision. You say, "I can't do this anymore!" I'm very close to Mark, I'm in contact with him 8 or 9 times a year. The last time I saw him he was very, very sober after a lot of this trouble with the band and Steve Hanley finally leaving. So he cleaned up his act. He did say, "We should work together," and then I thought, "You've got to actually ask me to do this." I can't phone him up. He never did and I thought, "Okay, well, I'll leave this. I'll just carry on buying their records." As a kid, you think you're going to say to a cabbie, "I worked for The Fall. I've done about half a dozen albums. They're a seminal punk band." And the guy's like, "The Fall?"
|
Showbiz is the business.
Then there's this:
CC
On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 2:54 PM David Bivins < dabivins@...> wrote: Apologies if this has been excerpted before. From TapeOp March/April 2000 issue:
(about Dragnet)
It was my first professional record. I did?Dragnet?in '79 and I suppose the last thing I did was this "Chilinist" thing, which I suspect is the basic track that they still used on the single, which must have been '97. The third album with The Fall was?Slates. Adrian Sherwood came in and did some time with it. He had the whole kind of snare mic'd up on the stairs, put through the reverb and then fed back in. I thought, "Okay, I like this. I'm not going to spend as long as Adrian does getting it, but if it happens, go with it." You've heard a sound, it's worked really well, and you spend 3 hours setting up in your studio and it just doesn't work. I've really learned lots of things like pointing the mic down away from the [kick drum] beater, make sure it's right in there. And then one day you don't do that, you mic it from the front. The mic is outside the drum and it sounds great, and you're like, "Oh my God! Everything I've learned is wrong." But I can look back at The Fall stuff and think, "I don't mind." It's looked upon as brilliant stuff. I think The Fall are probably the best band in the world. 20 years of sheer brilliance.
(about MES)
What you see is people going over their peak. Certainly with Mark E. Smith I was thinking, "Well you're not making sense anymore." It came to head for me when we made "Chilinest". I was up there working on it, and Craig Scanlon, who was one of the great guitarists of The Fall, had gotten a clarinet and we tried really hard to get it to work, to get a good sound. Then Mark heard it and said, "What the fuck is there a clarinet on this song for?" He told us to wipe it off the track. He went back to the pub and came back three hours later. We played the mix again and Mark was like, "This is shit. Where is the clarinet? That was the best thing on the track." I've seen Mark since then and he's much more stable now and I support him dearly ¡ª the last record he made was absolutely fantastic ¡ª but I just thought it's not for me. You make a decision. You say, "I can't do this anymore!" I'm very close to Mark, I'm in contact with him 8 or 9 times a year. The last time I saw him he was very, very sober after a lot of this trouble with the band and Steve Hanley finally leaving. So he cleaned up his act. He did say, "We should work together," and then I thought, "You've got to actually ask me to do this." I can't phone him up. He never did and I thought, "Okay, well, I'll leave this. I'll just carry on buying their records." As a kid, you think you're going to say to a cabbie, "I worked for The Fall. I've done about half a dozen albums. They're a seminal punk band." And the guy's like, "The Fall?"
|
Apologies if this has been excerpted before. From TapeOp March/April 2000 issue:
(about Dragnet)
It was my first professional record. I did?Dragnet?in '79 and I suppose the last thing I did was this "Chilinist" thing, which I suspect is the basic track that they still used on the single, which must have been '97. The third album with The Fall was?Slates. Adrian Sherwood came in and did some time with it. He had the whole kind of snare mic'd up on the stairs, put through the reverb and then fed back in. I thought, "Okay, I like this. I'm not going to spend as long as Adrian does getting it, but if it happens, go with it." You've heard a sound, it's worked really well, and you spend 3 hours setting up in your studio and it just doesn't work. I've really learned lots of things like pointing the mic down away from the [kick drum] beater, make sure it's right in there. And then one day you don't do that, you mic it from the front. The mic is outside the drum and it sounds great, and you're like, "Oh my God! Everything I've learned is wrong." But I can look back at The Fall stuff and think, "I don't mind." It's looked upon as brilliant stuff. I think The Fall are probably the best band in the world. 20 years of sheer brilliance.
(about MES)
What you see is people going over their peak. Certainly with Mark E. Smith I was thinking, "Well you're not making sense anymore." It came to head for me when we made "Chilinest". I was up there working on it, and Craig Scanlon, who was one of the great guitarists of The Fall, had gotten a clarinet and we tried really hard to get it to work, to get a good sound. Then Mark heard it and said, "What the fuck is there a clarinet on this song for?" He told us to wipe it off the track. He went back to the pub and came back three hours later. We played the mix again and Mark was like, "This is shit. Where is the clarinet? That was the best thing on the track." I've seen Mark since then and he's much more stable now and I support him dearly ¡ª the last record he made was absolutely fantastic ¡ª but I just thought it's not for me. You make a decision. You say, "I can't do this anymore!" I'm very close to Mark, I'm in contact with him 8 or 9 times a year. The last time I saw him he was very, very sober after a lot of this trouble with the band and Steve Hanley finally leaving. So he cleaned up his act. He did say, "We should work together," and then I thought, "You've got to actually ask me to do this." I can't phone him up. He never did and I thought, "Okay, well, I'll leave this. I'll just carry on buying their records." As a kid, you think you're going to say to a cabbie, "I worked for The Fall. I've done about half a dozen albums. They're a seminal punk band." And the guy's like, "The Fall?"
|
Ser Joris Bonceman.
Pat W
Sent from I phone
|
Re: Mark E. Smith¡¯s lyrical stage rants
Good that they sent Stefan one. I reckon that means they sent us all one.? Happy with that.? ?Was always live and online. An amazing achievement by you organising webmeister guys.? Have often thought it should be house churning out the books...
stve
On Thu, 23 Sep 2021, 4:41 am Jeff Curtis, < jacurtis@...> wrote: Indeed. They'll have to wait until all the Fall fans themselves are dead to publish the definitive version!?
-- but then, who would buy it?
JC
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 10:36 PM Stefan Cooke < fallnews@...> wrote: I like that the gigography is never finished. I added about 50 new images recently and have more in the queue. Dave Thompson tried to replicate the website in his User's Guide, which was immediately out of date and fairly useless compared to online.
Stefan
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 7:41 PM Jeff Curtis < jacurtis@...> wrote: W' hey! I guess that's cool, at least.?
Maybe you should consider put together a trade paperback edition of the whole Gigography site for less-expensive Stateside release??
just a thought..?
JC
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 6:36 PM Stefan Cooke < fallnews@...> wrote: They were quick to send me a free copy.
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 4:37 PM Jeff Curtis < jacurtis@...> wrote: He's definitely exploiting the massive efforts of you and all contributing Fall fans.. Maybe you could request a copy for your archives at least?
JC
So he's making money out of our old infotainment scans for the gigliography?
Don't we get a free copy?
stve
On Wed, 22 Sep 2021, 3:37 pm Stefan Cooke, < fallnews@...> wrote: Apart from some paintings and a bit of introductory text, it's totally sourced from my Fall gigography. I had no idea the book was in the works until I read the reviews online. Speaking of, my favorite was Tony Herrington's in The Wire, not surprisingly :)?
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 8:58 AM Jeff Curtis < jacurtis@...> wrote: Yeah, agreed, well done. It really made me want to pick up the Slang King book until I realized it was gonna cost me almost $60 to get a copy here in the States (especially after he mentions that it was primarily sourced from the Fall Gigography website..)!?
JC
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 8:36 AM David Bivins < dabivins@...> wrote: This was excellent. Always happy to read anything by Mr. Frere-Jones, and this did not disappoint at all.? On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 6:52 PM Jeff Curtis < jacurtis@...> wrote: New book review by Sasha Frere-Jones of these two books:
EXCAVATE!: THE WONDERFUL AND FRIGHTENING WORLD OF THE FALL?EDITED BY TESSA NORTON AND BOB STANLEY. NEW YORK: FABER & FABER. 360 PAGES. $30. SLANG KING: M.E.S. ON STAGE 1977¨C2013?EDITED BY BOB NICKAS, ILLUSTRATIONS BY NIKHOLIS PLANCK. COPENHAGEN: AT LAST BOOKS. 184 PAGES. $40.
The first of which I knew about (and have), the second I'm only now just finding out about. Anyone here heard of it?
review here:
JC
|
Re: Mark E. Smith¡¯s lyrical stage rants
Indeed. They'll have to wait until all the Fall fans themselves are dead to publish the definitive version!?
-- but then, who would buy it?
JC
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 10:36 PM Stefan Cooke < fallnews@...> wrote: I like that the gigography is never finished. I added about 50 new images recently and have more in the queue. Dave Thompson tried to replicate the website in his User's Guide, which was immediately out of date and fairly useless compared to online.
Stefan
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 7:41 PM Jeff Curtis < jacurtis@...> wrote: W' hey! I guess that's cool, at least.?
Maybe you should consider put together a trade paperback edition of the whole Gigography site for less-expensive Stateside release??
just a thought..?
JC
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 6:36 PM Stefan Cooke < fallnews@...> wrote: They were quick to send me a free copy.
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 4:37 PM Jeff Curtis < jacurtis@...> wrote: He's definitely exploiting the massive efforts of you and all contributing Fall fans.. Maybe you could request a copy for your archives at least?
JC
So he's making money out of our old infotainment scans for the gigliography?
Don't we get a free copy?
stve
On Wed, 22 Sep 2021, 3:37 pm Stefan Cooke, < fallnews@...> wrote: Apart from some paintings and a bit of introductory text, it's totally sourced from my Fall gigography. I had no idea the book was in the works until I read the reviews online. Speaking of, my favorite was Tony Herrington's in The Wire, not surprisingly :)?
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 8:58 AM Jeff Curtis < jacurtis@...> wrote: Yeah, agreed, well done. It really made me want to pick up the Slang King book until I realized it was gonna cost me almost $60 to get a copy here in the States (especially after he mentions that it was primarily sourced from the Fall Gigography website..)!?
JC
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 8:36 AM David Bivins < dabivins@...> wrote: This was excellent. Always happy to read anything by Mr. Frere-Jones, and this did not disappoint at all.? On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 6:52 PM Jeff Curtis < jacurtis@...> wrote: New book review by Sasha Frere-Jones of these two books:
EXCAVATE!: THE WONDERFUL AND FRIGHTENING WORLD OF THE FALL?EDITED BY TESSA NORTON AND BOB STANLEY. NEW YORK: FABER & FABER. 360 PAGES. $30. SLANG KING: M.E.S. ON STAGE 1977¨C2013?EDITED BY BOB NICKAS, ILLUSTRATIONS BY NIKHOLIS PLANCK. COPENHAGEN: AT LAST BOOKS. 184 PAGES. $40.
The first of which I knew about (and have), the second I'm only now just finding out about. Anyone here heard of it?
review here:
JC
|
Re: Mark E. Smith¡¯s lyrical stage rants
I like that the gigography is never finished. I added about 50 new images recently and have more in the queue. Dave Thompson tried to replicate the website in his User's Guide, which was immediately out of date and fairly useless compared to online.
Stefan
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 7:41 PM Jeff Curtis < jacurtis@...> wrote: W' hey! I guess that's cool, at least.?
Maybe you should consider put together a trade paperback edition of the whole Gigography site for less-expensive Stateside release??
just a thought..?
JC
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 6:36 PM Stefan Cooke < fallnews@...> wrote: They were quick to send me a free copy.
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 4:37 PM Jeff Curtis < jacurtis@...> wrote: He's definitely exploiting the massive efforts of you and all contributing Fall fans.. Maybe you could request a copy for your archives at least?
JC
So he's making money out of our old infotainment scans for the gigliography?
Don't we get a free copy?
stve
On Wed, 22 Sep 2021, 3:37 pm Stefan Cooke, < fallnews@...> wrote: Apart from some paintings and a bit of introductory text, it's totally sourced from my Fall gigography. I had no idea the book was in the works until I read the reviews online. Speaking of, my favorite was Tony Herrington's in The Wire, not surprisingly :)?
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 8:58 AM Jeff Curtis < jacurtis@...> wrote: Yeah, agreed, well done. It really made me want to pick up the Slang King book until I realized it was gonna cost me almost $60 to get a copy here in the States (especially after he mentions that it was primarily sourced from the Fall Gigography website..)!?
JC
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 8:36 AM David Bivins < dabivins@...> wrote: This was excellent. Always happy to read anything by Mr. Frere-Jones, and this did not disappoint at all.? On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 6:52 PM Jeff Curtis < jacurtis@...> wrote: New book review by Sasha Frere-Jones of these two books:
EXCAVATE!: THE WONDERFUL AND FRIGHTENING WORLD OF THE FALL?EDITED BY TESSA NORTON AND BOB STANLEY. NEW YORK: FABER & FABER. 360 PAGES. $30. SLANG KING: M.E.S. ON STAGE 1977¨C2013?EDITED BY BOB NICKAS, ILLUSTRATIONS BY NIKHOLIS PLANCK. COPENHAGEN: AT LAST BOOKS. 184 PAGES. $40.
The first of which I knew about (and have), the second I'm only now just finding out about. Anyone here heard of it?
review here:
JC
|
Re: Mark E. Smith¡¯s lyrical stage rants
W' hey! I guess that's cool, at least.?
Maybe you should consider put together a trade paperback edition of the whole Gigography site for less-expensive Stateside release??
just a thought..?
JC
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 6:36 PM Stefan Cooke < fallnews@...> wrote: They were quick to send me a free copy.
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 4:37 PM Jeff Curtis < jacurtis@...> wrote: He's definitely exploiting the massive efforts of you and all contributing Fall fans.. Maybe you could request a copy for your archives at least?
JC
So he's making money out of our old infotainment scans for the gigliography?
Don't we get a free copy?
stve
On Wed, 22 Sep 2021, 3:37 pm Stefan Cooke, < fallnews@...> wrote: Apart from some paintings and a bit of introductory text, it's totally sourced from my Fall gigography. I had no idea the book was in the works until I read the reviews online. Speaking of, my favorite was Tony Herrington's in The Wire, not surprisingly :)?
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 8:58 AM Jeff Curtis < jacurtis@...> wrote: Yeah, agreed, well done. It really made me want to pick up the Slang King book until I realized it was gonna cost me almost $60 to get a copy here in the States (especially after he mentions that it was primarily sourced from the Fall Gigography website..)!?
JC
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 8:36 AM David Bivins < dabivins@...> wrote: This was excellent. Always happy to read anything by Mr. Frere-Jones, and this did not disappoint at all.? On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 6:52 PM Jeff Curtis < jacurtis@...> wrote: New book review by Sasha Frere-Jones of these two books:
EXCAVATE!: THE WONDERFUL AND FRIGHTENING WORLD OF THE FALL?EDITED BY TESSA NORTON AND BOB STANLEY. NEW YORK: FABER & FABER. 360 PAGES. $30. SLANG KING: M.E.S. ON STAGE 1977¨C2013?EDITED BY BOB NICKAS, ILLUSTRATIONS BY NIKHOLIS PLANCK. COPENHAGEN: AT LAST BOOKS. 184 PAGES. $40.
The first of which I knew about (and have), the second I'm only now just finding out about. Anyone here heard of it?
review here:
JC
|
Re: Mark E. Smith¡¯s lyrical stage rants
They were quick to send me a free copy.
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 4:37 PM Jeff Curtis < jacurtis@...> wrote: He's definitely exploiting the massive efforts of you and all contributing Fall fans.. Maybe you could request a copy for your archives at least?
JC
So he's making money out of our old infotainment scans for the gigliography?
Don't we get a free copy?
stve
On Wed, 22 Sep 2021, 3:37 pm Stefan Cooke, < fallnews@...> wrote: Apart from some paintings and a bit of introductory text, it's totally sourced from my Fall gigography. I had no idea the book was in the works until I read the reviews online. Speaking of, my favorite was Tony Herrington's in The Wire, not surprisingly :)?
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 8:58 AM Jeff Curtis < jacurtis@...> wrote: Yeah, agreed, well done. It really made me want to pick up the Slang King book until I realized it was gonna cost me almost $60 to get a copy here in the States (especially after he mentions that it was primarily sourced from the Fall Gigography website..)!?
JC
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 8:36 AM David Bivins < dabivins@...> wrote: This was excellent. Always happy to read anything by Mr. Frere-Jones, and this did not disappoint at all.? On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 6:52 PM Jeff Curtis < jacurtis@...> wrote: New book review by Sasha Frere-Jones of these two books:
EXCAVATE!: THE WONDERFUL AND FRIGHTENING WORLD OF THE FALL?EDITED BY TESSA NORTON AND BOB STANLEY. NEW YORK: FABER & FABER. 360 PAGES. $30. SLANG KING: M.E.S. ON STAGE 1977¨C2013?EDITED BY BOB NICKAS, ILLUSTRATIONS BY NIKHOLIS PLANCK. COPENHAGEN: AT LAST BOOKS. 184 PAGES. $40.
The first of which I knew about (and have), the second I'm only now just finding out about. Anyone here heard of it?
review here:
JC
|
Re: Mark E. Smith¡¯s lyrical stage rants
He's definitely exploiting the massive efforts of you and all contributing Fall fans.. Maybe you could request a copy for your archives at least?
JC
So he's making money out of our old infotainment scans for the gigliography?
Don't we get a free copy?
stve
On Wed, 22 Sep 2021, 3:37 pm Stefan Cooke, < fallnews@...> wrote: Apart from some paintings and a bit of introductory text, it's totally sourced from my Fall gigography. I had no idea the book was in the works until I read the reviews online. Speaking of, my favorite was Tony Herrington's in The Wire, not surprisingly :)?
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 8:58 AM Jeff Curtis < jacurtis@...> wrote: Yeah, agreed, well done. It really made me want to pick up the Slang King book until I realized it was gonna cost me almost $60 to get a copy here in the States (especially after he mentions that it was primarily sourced from the Fall Gigography website..)!?
JC
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 8:36 AM David Bivins < dabivins@...> wrote: This was excellent. Always happy to read anything by Mr. Frere-Jones, and this did not disappoint at all.? On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 6:52 PM Jeff Curtis < jacurtis@...> wrote: New book review by Sasha Frere-Jones of these two books:
EXCAVATE!: THE WONDERFUL AND FRIGHTENING WORLD OF THE FALL?EDITED BY TESSA NORTON AND BOB STANLEY. NEW YORK: FABER & FABER. 360 PAGES. $30. SLANG KING: M.E.S. ON STAGE 1977¨C2013?EDITED BY BOB NICKAS, ILLUSTRATIONS BY NIKHOLIS PLANCK. COPENHAGEN: AT LAST BOOKS. 184 PAGES. $40.
The first of which I knew about (and have), the second I'm only now just finding out about. Anyone here heard of it?
review here:
JC
|
Stefan Cooke