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Re: So, anyway...

 

>>>The last time I saw them turned out to be LA 2003.<<<

Wasn't that the night I picked you up at a motel in Pasadena? (Down, boys.)

CC


Re: Take It Down To The Wire

 

<<<<
This sounds like a monitor or front-of-house board mix. And is fantastic.

And there is no truth to the rumor that this version of "Couldn't Get
Ahead" has replaced "Fortunate Son" as incumbent Prexy's campaign
song.

CC

On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 6:50 AM Stefan Cooke <fallnews@...> wrote:

Being the company they are, I think Ozit have probably downloaded the mp3 from the On the Wire mixcloud, extracted it, and pressed it on vinyl.



Stefan

On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 5:56 AM Geoff Caves <the27points@...> wrote:

Strange, I've seen various online listings for this one in the past few days with no mention of RSD.

Originally broadcast on BBC Lancashire in 1985. Would that have been AM radio? You can be fairly certain the source is a cassette recording off-air.

On 6 Nov 2020 09:46, "Mark via groups.io" <mountainoaf@...> wrote:

Seems to have been released for Record Store Day:
<>

"Great live recording from a radio broadcast of The Fall live on Sunday 16th of June 1985 Clitheroe Castle, Lancashire. It was a free open-air concert. The set from 2 x 4 through Lay of the Land was broadcast on Steve Barker's "On the Wire," BBC Radio Lancashire."

Mark






Re: Hello'een

 

Hi OBG!

I'm curious - has your email address been 'olderbrothergert' in the
intervening years between the virtual death of FallNet and it's current
magnificent rebirth, or did you just change it to that when you joined
the new list?

I have images of you sending business emails, etc.

Toby


Re: Hello'een

 

>> Gez, just revisited R.Kidd's slating of "Slates" from the archive...

I never, surely!? No idea what I would?be objecting to, too short? I bailed around Missing Winner, last saw them around Fall Heads Roll (which was great), then gave up again.?

Good to see everyone back again (I was wondering about Konrad too). I bumped into Fiona A a few years ago at a work related thing.??

Rich



On Thu, 5 Nov 2020 at 22:10, Gerard Wood <gez@...> wrote:
stve sez:

"Anyone seen diw of late?? I used to see his bands when I was over - I had a fab time at an end of season set at Dean Court Bournemouth FC one time. I seem to remember a fallcon in Kingston on Thames at an I Ludicrous gig"

I'm still in regular (online) contact, he's a Taplow microbrewer these days (see - moogbrew)

Gez, just revisited R.Kidd's slating of "Slates" from the archive...


Re: Hello'een

 

stve dean! Good sir, I often wondered the same about you down there in NZ. Glad to hear you are alive and well. I've still got a pile of books you mailed me.

Other Fallnetters I recall; some have already been mentioned.

Of course, R. Kidd who I was in touch with from time to time over the years.? I still the story - to anyone who will listen - about the fellow I know who was at the Leeds Uni gig in 1980.

Jeff Curtis, Kandell, Gez, Stefan Cooke (Boston area), Rick Karr, NPR correspondent who went by "Grade D But Edible", Andrew Norman from Leicester, the late AJR - who I recall packing "all tomorrow's lunches" for his kids the night before school. I also remember "Vitas Gerulitis and The Encephalitis Experience" - one of many bands that Andrew drew up Fallnet in the wake of Mad Cow Disease.

Contributions to the Lyrics Parade - I remember Jeff having a whole lot to with that along with many other Fallnetters.

Adam Marshall - think he was a maths professor at Liverpool Uni. Last time I chatted with him he was researching a book on the Jamestown Colony and eating a cheese buntie. One of the Fallnetters I've met in person. Remember he thought I looked like Jeremy Beadle. I kind of did at the time.

"Astro Al" Alastair Reynolds - now a famous science fiction author. You can by his books on Amazon. He used to work at the European Space Agency in the Holland, Utrecht if memory serves.

Stuart Estell - "cerebral pasty" who did a cracking cover of My New House, retitled "My New Shirt". Brilliant.

This is still floating around out in the ether - for those that remember contributing to it. In the interest of inclusion, even for those that don't remember it:


OBGert
Look-back-bore to the stars

On 11/06/2020 5:12 AM steve dean <stevencharlesdean@...> wrote:


My work OBG! ?Often wondered what you up to!

And Cole, Fallnets short story publisher.

We should do the show right here!

stve


On 6/11/2020, at 10:06 AM, cole.coonce@... wrote:

>>>I've fallen through a trapdoor and landed in the 1990s<<<

The last decade when things were better.

CC


Re: Take It Down To The Wire

 

Being the company they are, I think Ozit have probably downloaded the mp3 from the On the Wire mixcloud, extracted it, and pressed it on vinyl.?



Stefan

On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 5:56 AM Geoff Caves <the27points@...> wrote:
Strange, I've seen various online listings for this one in the past few days with no mention of RSD.

Originally broadcast on BBC Lancashire in 1985. Would that have been AM radio? You can be fairly certain the source is a cassette recording off-air.

On 6 Nov 2020 09:46, "Mark via " <mountainoaf=[email protected]> wrote:

Seems to have been released for Record Store Day:
<>

"Great live recording from a radio broadcast of The Fall live on Sunday 16th of June 1985 Clitheroe Castle, Lancashire. It was a free open-air concert. The set from 2 x 4 through Lay of the Land was broadcast on Steve Barker's "On the Wire," BBC Radio Lancashire."

Mark







Re: Bandcamp Friday

 

On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 5:10 AM Mark via <mountainoaf=[email protected]> wrote:
It is currently Bandcamp Friday, where 100% of all revenue from sales of music goes to directly to the artist.



Listmeister Jeff has an EP available, for example:


d'aww, thanks for the plug, Mark!?

If anyone's remotely curious, I can point you to a couple of positive reviews:?

This one most recently:?
"Jeff Curtis - Summertime Stridulations - Coffee-Hut Records - 7 songs - CD, download
You may know Jeff Curtis from bands as varied as My Dad Is Dead, Gem, and Satan's Satellites- the press release I have here tells me so¨C which, of course, are all absolutely great bands, though this one-sheet inexcusably leaves off J'accuse, one of the best area post-punk bands of the early '80s if you ask me. This does not sound anything like any of those bands. "Summertime Stridulations" finds Jeff with a new instrument: the banjo. However, this ain't no hillbilly pickin'. (Not that I would mind that, and in fact now that I've said it I kinda would like to hear Mr. Curtis do some Grand Ole Opry-style tunes). Some of this is based in traditional folk, like "Bat Sky" or, indeed, the traditional song "Dinah," but more often these songs are hypnotic instrumentals, with the banjo carrying the "tune" as it were with backing from a droning chord organ (or, in a couple cases, earth music: the sounds of rain and wind or the occasional car passing by). It's actually pretty cool stuff. I personally don't love the sound of the banjo, generally speaking ("Stop Stop Stop" by the Hollies is an obvious exception), but what Jeff does here is so unlike typical banjo playing that it almost feels like some other instrument. And yeah, maybe sometimes his playing isn't note-perfect or it's a little amateurish (he says as much in the liner notes), but what he does with the sound of it is far more important here. My favorite might be "Sweet Corn," which has a feel not unlike George Harrison's excursions into Indian music. "Birthday Raga" is indeed a raga, but its title brings to mind Bert Jansch ("Birthday Blues," ya see) and I certainly think Bert (or, at least, other artists who were inspired by him) was an influence here. A cool little experimental collection here. 3.5/5"

And this typo-laced one from a few weeks ago (hat-tip to are Sasha for recommending the site!):??
"JEFF CURTIS - SUMMERTIME STRIDULATIONS (CDR by Coffehut)

Before I started to listen to Jeff Curtis¡¯ new latest album ¡®Summertime Stridulations¡¯ I had no idea what clawhammer banjo meant. I knew what the words meant individually, but I¡¯d never really heard them put together. Now knowing their true meaning I have to admit I¡¯m a convert at the alter of clawhammer.
??? Instead of playing a conventional up-picking of strings with the fingers and a down-picking with the thumb, clawhammer playing is primarily a down-picking with the hand looking like a claw. It¡¯s the Ramones way of playing the banjo.
??? The first thing I noticed after listening to ¡®Summertime Stridulations¡¯ was how droney it all was. I¡¯d never really hard a banjo sound like that before. This is down to the clawhammer style. It allows the banjo to create more drone motifs. This is on display on opening track ¡®Banjo Trio in Double C: 1. Kinzua¡¯. Throughout Curtis creates constant murmurs over which he laces these gloriously lyrical solos and runs. At times ¡®Kinzua¡¯ sounds a bit like the theme from the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. You know the only good Eagles track ¡®Journey of the Sorcerer¡¯. As it swells there is a quirky cinematic vibe that shouldn¡¯t work but does. ¡®Birthday Raga¡¯ and ¡®Sweet Corn¡¯ sound like they¡¯re from straight out of the delta. The Nile delta. As well as making his banjo drone Curtis also gets some fantastic sitar vibes from it. What makes ¡®Birthday Raga¡¯ and ¡®Sweet Corn¡¯ so delightful is that after understated openings they just get locked in a groove and stays there, save for some runs and solos. It¡¯s catchy, it¡¯s heavy and it¡¯s just so damn playable.
??? I went into this album, and review, with a very limited idea about Curtis¡¯ back catalogue. I¡¯d heard his name before but couldn¡¯t really put a song to it. When I read it was an album of banjo improvisational music, I hoped for the best but feared the worst. How wrong I was. ¡®Summertime Stridulations¡¯ is the kind of album I live for as a music fan and journalist. It¡¯s totally floored me from the notes and held me captive like Terry Waite or John McCarthy. The beauty of the album is just how sparse it is. There are no superfluous notes. Everything is stripped down to its bare bones. At 26-minutes it doesn¡¯t outstay its welcome and leaves you wanting more. A LOT more. If the album popped round for a tea or coffee, the drink would still be hot by the time it had to neck it to leave. ¡®Summertime Stridulations¡¯ could be one of the catechist things this year next to COVID! (NR)"

JC


Re: Take It Down To The Wire

 

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Strange, I've seen various online listings for this one in the past few days with no mention of RSD.

Originally broadcast on BBC Lancashire in 1985. Would that have been AM radio? You can be fairly certain the source is a cassette recording off-air.

On 6 Nov 2020 09:46, "Mark via groups.io" <mountainoaf@...> wrote:

Seems to have been released for Record Store Day:
<https://recordstoreday.com/UPC/811702018527>

"Great live recording from a radio broadcast of The Fall live on Sunday 16th of June 1985 Clitheroe Castle, Lancashire. It was a free open-air concert. The set from 2 x 4 through Lay of the Land was broadcast on Steve Barker's "On the Wire," BBC Radio Lancashire."

Mark







Re: Hello'een

 

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My work OBG! ?Often wondered what you up to!

And Cole, Fallnets short story publisher.

We should do the show right here!

stve


On 6/11/2020, at 10:06 AM, cole.coonce@... wrote:

?>>>I've fallen through a trapdoor and landed in the 1990s<<<

The last decade when things were better.

CC


Bandcamp Friday

 

It is currently Bandcamp Friday, where 100% of all revenue from sales of music goes to directly to the artist.



Listmeister Jeff has an EP available, for example:



Mark


Take It Down To The Wire

 

Seems to have been released for Record Store Day:
<>

"Great live recording from a radio broadcast of The Fall live on Sunday 16th of June 1985 Clitheroe Castle, Lancashire. It was a free open-air concert. The set from 2 x 4 through Lay of the Land was broadcast on Steve Barker's "On the Wire," BBC Radio Lancashire."

Mark


Re: Hello'een

 

When we were over in Blighty last year we went to a Fallen Women gig in Islington in That London. Pretty sure that Simon Christian, (ex?) of this parish, did the vocals on one of the songs at that gig.

Mark


Re: Hello'een

 

Hi Gez,

Thanks for letting me know - that¡¯s good to hear. I think I¡¯ve still got one of your photos - of Konrad, Mel and myself in a pre-gig pub. No idea of when (exactly) or where however...

Cheers
Paul


Re: Hello'een

 

Paul W sez:

?
"Does anyone know what happened to Konrad Adams?"

I'm still very much in touch (since I was Nottm too).? I sent him a message about this group/list yesterday, so he may appear soon...

Gez.


Re: Hello'een

 

As a lurker from the long, long days I can¡¯t imagine I¡¯ll break the habit much in this latest incarnation...

Does anyone know what happened to Konrad Adams? I travelled with him to a fair few gigs in the 90s when we both lived in Nottingham and always found him a fine fella.?

Cheers
Paul?


Re: So, anyway...

 
Edited

Sub-Lingual Tablet has its merits, I think, with the vinyl version of Fibre-Book Troll being a particular favourite that I hardly ever listen to. The crown of the 2010s was The Remainderer EP, though. I still haven't made up my mind about the last one except that it should have been called Alt Facts Emerge.?

The last time I saw them turned out to be LA 2003. I tried to see them in Italy in 2014 (a festival with Buzzcocks and Inspiral Carpets), I thought I'd try something new and got a rental car to drive down there, managed to crash the car halfway to Graz (I'm in Vienna now), lost CD 6 of the Peel Sessions and never got to see them.?

I feel just about zero interest in all those re-releases, is that wrong?


Re: So, anyway...

 

On 6 Nov 2020, at 00:41, cole.coonce@... wrote:

After that, I welcomed every new release, I just didn't listen to them very often. Maybe it's time to revisit the latter releases.
Yeah, same for me really. I think the last Fall releases I listened to
properly (and multiple times) were Imperial Wax Solvent/Your Future Our
Clutter. The later ones I still bought, but I think I only listened to
once or twice. Can't remember the last time I saw them - would have
been in the Liquid Rooms, Edinburgh I think.

Toby


Re: So, anyway...

 

>>>Did you stick with the gruppe til the end or drift away?<<<

Kinda drifted away, I reckon.

The last time I had the chance to catch them was during their stint at the Knitting Factory in LA in mid-2006.

But even from a distance, the last decade or so got increasingly difficult to watch. And listen to.? After Country on the Click and into Fall Heads Roll, the songs degenerated into one-riff dirges and Smith's vocals lost its punch. In clips I saw from that era, he was just caterwauling.

After that, I welcomed every new release, I just didn't listen to them very often. Maybe it's time to revisit the latter releases.

CC


So, anyway...

 

...how have you all been keeping? What a joy it is to see [fallnet] cropping up in the inbox.

Did you stick with the gruppe til the end or drift away?

For my part, I tried to get to every W Yorkshire gig & occasionally further afield (Skegness!). Found the gigs more diverting than the records, often enough. My last one was Wakefield, Oct '17 - MES's antepenultimate performance. A memorable night.

Pete Conk, kurious


Re: Hello'een

 

Good evening. This feels a bit unreal... like a gateway to a different time when a new Fall LP was sure to come out next year...