Heads up everybody,??
The website on local governance reform now includes a survey. Surf here, scroll down a bit, and click on "Take the Survey":?
Question 12 includes a text box you can use to suggest other ways to improve local services and representation. Why not suggest rewriting the municipal elections act to allow ranked ballots???
Please fill in the survey, post on social media,?? and tell your friends.
Thank you!?? -- Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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Re: [fair-vote-fredericton] Re: [FairVoting4NB] Form letter to local governance reform team
Hi everybody,
Lots of comments, and lots to comment on.
On Wed, 5 May 2021 at 10:57, Patti Chmelyk < patti@...> wrote: I certainly think that perhaps the text of the letter could include some of John's words, but I also think we should be singing from the same song-book.? For instance, I am personally not sold on ranked ballots except for the position of mayor, or within a political party, for leader.
The main point John added, from what I recall, is that PR increases turnout. This is absolutely true for federal and provincial elections; I'm not sure whether or not it will prove true for municipal elections. My experience up to this point has been that people don't care much about municipal politics--unfortunately. Will giving them a better electoral system make them care more? I don't know. That's part of the reason I don't want to add this to the form letter--not that John asked me to. I think he was just showing us what he was going to mail.
The other reason is that any other additions will push it onto a second page, and I want a one-page form letter. Anything more than that, and we may be asking too much of people on their way to or from the market.
When it comes to municipal elections, at least in NB, there are no political parties, and that limits your options. Without parties, MMP is out. But ranked ballots are an option, and you CAN make a PR system with them. Not everyone realizes this. They think ranked ballots have to be winner-take-all, because that's what Trudeau meant when he talked about them. He contributed to a lot of confusion--and I wouldn't be surprised if he did it on purpose. On Wed, 5 May 2021 at 11:02, Patti Chmelyk < patti@...> wrote: Fantastic!? I certainly can do a sign-up form - thinking name, address, e-mail, and perhaps phone (although, for me, I detest giving out my phone number - all those years in Brampton with a dozen duct-cleaning calls per day!)? Re the other cities, let's wait for the response from Freddy.? We should have a donation can to help pay for the postage.? Just ask for change -loonies, twoonies, etc.? Thoughts??
Definitely we'll want name and e-mail address. Maybe a column for: Want to volunteer? Y or N. Address and phone number are optional. I suppose it's good to get them in case we want to do mailings or phonings in the future, but I don't think we're going to want to do that any time soon. Patti, do we need to be concerned that we'll scare people away if we ask for too much info?
I was also thinking we should have a donation jar for postage. After all, postage is a lot more expensive than it used to be, and if we're successful, all those stamps will add up. I have lots of jars of various sizes. I can bring one. On Wed, 5 May 2021 at 11:46, John Filliter < johndfilliter@...> wrote: One other point that occurred to me today is that it might have been wise for me to suggest at the end that the legislation might provide this as an electoral option to municipalities.
To my mind, that's what the letter already says. First it says to "give municipalities the option" to use ranked ballots. At the end it says, "allow for ranked ballots." It's not as if it says, "replace single-vote ballots with ranked ballots for all municipalities."
Thanks everyone, Vivian?
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Re: Form letter to local governance reform team
Your letter looks great Vivian.? Great input from all. :O)
Thanks, Vivian.
I put the Team reference on my envelope and also wrote it in beside the addressee on my letter.
I wasn¡¯t suggesting that othyers should use my particular wording - just giving an example of how it can be done.
One other point that occurred to me today is that it might have been wise for me to suggest at the end that the legislation might provide this as an electoral option to municipalities.
John
Thanks John. I agree; it's always good to make the text your own. Just make sure that the envelope says "Attention: Local Governance Reform Team."
In fact, would it be a good idea to have a place for people to write in something of their own? Maybe just a blank subject line for signatories to add a subject in their own words. What do you think, Patti?? Hi, Vivian.
You¡¯ve done a good job drafting this letter.
Attached is a copy of my letter which is based on it.
I think we would be wise to all make minor modifications to the text, as we see warranted.
John
On May 3, 2021, at 6:25 PM, Patti Chmelyk < patti@...> wrote:
I think it's perfect, Vivian!? Maybe move the return address portion to the right margin and add (please print) so people print their names, addresses, and postal codes.? But that's just formatting.? Thanks so much I know how much thought and time you've put into this and it is appreciated!? Maybe, if we are successfulon the 15th, we could bring the action to the other markets - like Moncton, Saint John, etc. - local volunteers would, of course be needed. Cheers! Patti ? ? ? Hi everyone, Here's my second draft on a letter to the?local governance reform team. I'd like your input.? The plan: on May 15, from 8 to 12:30, Patti and I will be outside the Boyce Farmers Market, asking people to sign copies. We hope to get enough to mail them out in strategic batches, so that the reform team will find it hard to ignore us. I'll also be posting it on social media and encouraging people to either print it out and snail-mail it, or copy the text and email it. If anyone else can volunteer to spend some time outside the farmers market on May 15, that would be much appreciated. I think we should also take advantage of the elections having just happened by then. I would like to have a sign on the table to call attention to this. Something like, "So how did you like your local election?" Only better than that. Does anyone have ideas? --? Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
--?Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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Re: Form letter to local governance reform team
Thanks, Vivian.
I put the Team reference on my envelope and also wrote it in beside the addressee on my letter.
I wasn¡¯t suggesting that othyers should use my particular wording - just giving an example of how it can be done.
One other point that occurred to me today is that it might have been wise for me to suggest at the end that the legislation might provide this as an electoral option to municipalities.
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Thanks John. I agree; it's always good to make the text your own. Just make sure that the envelope says "Attention: Local Governance Reform Team."
In fact, would it be a good idea to have a place for people to write in something of their own? Maybe just a blank subject line for signatories to add a subject in their own words. What do you think, Patti?? Hi, Vivian.
You¡¯ve done a good job drafting this letter.
Attached is a copy of my letter which is based on it.
I think we would be wise to all make minor modifications to the text, as we see warranted.
John
On May 3, 2021, at 6:25 PM, Patti Chmelyk < patti@...> wrote:
I think it's perfect, Vivian!? Maybe move the return address portion to the right margin and add (please print) so people print their names, addresses, and postal codes.? But that's just formatting.? Thanks so much I know how much thought and time you've put into this and it is appreciated!? Maybe, if we are successfulon the 15th, we could bring the action to the other markets - like Moncton, Saint John, etc. - local volunteers would, of course be needed. Cheers! Patti ? ? ? Hi everyone, Here's my second draft on a letter to the?local governance reform team. I'd like your input.? The plan: on May 15, from 8 to 12:30, Patti and I will be outside the Boyce Farmers Market, asking people to sign copies. We hope to get enough to mail them out in strategic batches, so that the reform team will find it hard to ignore us. I'll also be posting it on social media and encouraging people to either print it out and snail-mail it, or copy the text and email it. If anyone else can volunteer to spend some time outside the farmers market on May 15, that would be much appreciated. I think we should also take advantage of the elections having just happened by then. I would like to have a sign on the table to call attention to this. Something like, "So how did you like your local election?" Only better than that. Does anyone have ideas? --? Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
--?Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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Re: Form letter to local governance reform team
Fantastic!? I certainly can do a sign-up
form - thinking name, address, e-mail, and perhaps phone (although, for me, I
detest giving out my phone number - all those years in Brampton with a dozen duct-cleaning calls per
day!)? Re the other cities, let's wait for the response from Freddy.? We should
have a donation can to help pay for the postage.? Just ask for change -
loonies, twoonies, etc.? Thoughts?? Have a great day - I'll be checking in
later in the day.? Patti
PS - sorry I didn't check in late
yesterday - hubby had a fall and I had to take him to ER
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Sent: May-04-21 1:28 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: fair-vote-fredericton@...;
David Brown
Subject: Re: [FairVoting4NB] Form
letter to local governance reform team
?
Thanks Patti. I was thinking the same thing as you this morning: why
not other cities? Maybe the week after, I can go?to Moncton and we can do this again at whatever
market you have there. Since Moncton
has more francophones, we'll need a French version.?
Depending, that is, on whether we get a decent response in Fredericton. If nobody
cares enough to sign any letters here, it won't feel worthwhile.
Another thing I was thinking of: we need a written privacy policy, just
to assure people that we sell or trade their information. I could have a short
one, which I could include in a flyer about Fair Voting for NB.
Are you doing the sign-up form, or do you want me to do that?
?
On Mon, 3 May 2021 at 18:25, Patti Chmelyk <patti@...> wrote:
I think it's perfect, Vivian!? Maybe move the return address
portion to the right margin and add (please print) so people print their names,
addresses, and postal codes.? But that's just formatting.? Thanks so
much I know how much thought and time you've put into this and it is
appreciated!? Maybe, if we are successfulon the 15th, we could bring the
action to the other markets - like Moncton, Saint John, etc. - local
volunteers would, of course be needed.
Cheers!
Patti
?
?
?
Hi everyone,
Here's my second
draft on a letter to the?local governance reform team. I'd like your
input.?
The plan: on May
15, from 8 to 12:30, Patti and I will be outside the Boyce Farmers Market,
asking people to sign copies. We hope to get enough to mail them out in
strategic batches, so that the reform team will find it hard to ignore us.
I'll also be
posting it on social media and encouraging people to either print it out and
snail-mail it, or copy the text and email it.
If anyone else can
volunteer to spend some time outside the farmers market on May 15, that would
be much appreciated.
I think we should
also take advantage of the elections having just happened by then. I would like
to have a sign on the table to call attention to this. Something like, "So
how did you like your local election?" Only better than that. Does anyone
have ideas?
--
Land
of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
--
Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk
(Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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Re: Form letter to local governance reform team
I certainly think that perhaps the text of
the letter could include some of John's words, but I also think we should be
singing from the same song-book.? For instance, I am personally not sold on ranked
ballots except for the position of mayor, or within a political party, for
leader.? That does not mean I want to throw the baby out with the bath-water -
I just want the committee to consider all fair-voting options for
municipalities.? Ergo, I think our letter should reflect that.? If individuals
have some of their own thoughts, then, by all means, they should communicate
that to the committee themselves.? FairVoting4NB should reflect the group
desire for fair voting change.? Again, that's just my thoughts - I certainly
don't want to seem dictatorial - which I've been told I often do seem that way
- though not my intension.? LOL
Patti
?
?
Thanks John. I agree; it's always good to make the text your own. Just
make sure that the envelope says "Attention: Local Governance Reform
Team."
In fact, would it be a good idea to have a place for people to write in
something of their own? Maybe just a blank subject line for signatories to add
a subject in their own words. What do you think, Patti??
?
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On Mon, 3 May 2021 at 21:43, John Filliter <johndfilliter@...> wrote:
Hi, Vivian.
You¡¯ve done a good job drafting this letter.
Attached is a copy of my letter which is based on it.
I think we would be wise to all make minor modifications to the text,
as we see warranted.
?
On May 3, 2021, at 6:25 PM, Patti Chmelyk <patti@...> wrote:
?
I think it's perfect, Vivian!? Maybe
move the return address portion to the right margin and add (please print) so
people print their names, addresses, and postal codes.? But that's just
formatting.? Thanks so much I know how much thought and time you've put
into this and it is appreciated!? Maybe, if we are successfulon the 15th,
we could bring the action to the other markets - like Moncton,
Saint John,
etc. - local volunteers would, of course be needed.
?
?
?
Here's my second draft on a letter to the?local governance reform
team. I'd like your input.?
The plan: on May 15, from 8 to 12:30, Patti and I will be outside the
Boyce Farmers Market, asking people to sign copies. We hope to get enough to
mail them out in strategic batches, so that the reform team will find it hard
to ignore us.
I'll also be posting it on social media and encouraging people to
either print it out and snail-mail it, or copy the text and email it.
If anyone else can volunteer to spend some time outside the farmers
market on May 15, that would be much appreciated.
I think we should also take advantage of the elections having just
happened by then. I would like to have a sign on the table to call attention to
this. Something like, "So how did you like your local election?" Only
better than that. Does anyone have ideas?
Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk
(Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
?
--
Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk
(Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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Re: Form letter to local governance reform team
Thanks Patti. I was thinking the same thing as you this morning: why not other cities? Maybe the week after, I can go?to Moncton and we can do this again at whatever market you have there. Since Moncton has more francophones, we'll need a French version.?
Depending, that is, on whether we get a decent response in Fredericton. If nobody cares enough to sign any letters here, it won't feel worthwhile.
Another thing I was thinking of: we need a written privacy policy, just to assure people that we sell or trade their information. I could have a short one, which I could include in a flyer about Fair Voting for NB.
Are you doing the sign-up form, or do you want me to do that?
Vivian
On Mon, 3 May 2021 at 18:25, Patti Chmelyk < patti@...> wrote:
I think it's perfect, Vivian!? Maybe move
the return address portion to the right margin and add (please print) so people
print their names, addresses, and postal codes.? But that's just formatting.?
Thanks so much I know how much thought and time you've put into this and it is
appreciated!? Maybe, if we are successfulon the 15th, we could bring the action
to the other markets - like Moncton, Saint John, etc. - local
volunteers would, of course be needed.
Cheers!
Patti
?
?
?
Hi everyone,
Here's my second draft on a letter to the?local governance reform
team. I'd like your input.?
The plan: on May 15, from 8 to 12:30, Patti and I will be outside the
Boyce Farmers Market, asking people to sign copies. We hope to get enough to
mail them out in strategic batches, so that the reform team will find it hard
to ignore us.
I'll also be posting it on social media and encouraging people to
either print it out and snail-mail it, or copy the text and email it.
If anyone else can volunteer to spend some time outside the farmers
market on May 15, that would be much appreciated.
I think we should also take advantage of the elections having just
happened by then. I would like to have a sign on the table to call attention to
this. Something like, "So how did you like your local election?" Only
better than that. Does anyone have ideas?
--
Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk
(Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
-- Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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Re: Form letter to local governance reform team
Thanks John. I agree; it's always good to make the text your own. Just make sure that the envelope says "Attention: Local Governance Reform Team."
In fact, would it be a good idea to have a place for people to write in something of their own? Maybe just a blank subject line for signatories to add a subject in their own words. What do you think, Patti??
Hi, Vivian.
You¡¯ve done a good job drafting this letter.
Attached is a copy of my letter which is based on it.
I think we would be wise to all make minor modifications to the text, as we see warranted.
John
On May 3, 2021, at 6:25 PM, Patti Chmelyk < patti@...> wrote:
I think it's perfect, Vivian!? Maybe move the return address portion to the right margin and add (please print) so people print their names, addresses, and postal codes.? But that's just formatting.? Thanks so much I know how much thought and time you've put into this and it is appreciated!? Maybe, if we are successfulon the 15th, we could bring the action to the other markets - like Moncton, Saint John, etc. - local volunteers would, of course be needed. Cheers! Patti ? ? ? Hi everyone, Here's my second draft on a letter to the?local governance reform team. I'd like your input.? The plan: on May 15, from 8 to 12:30, Patti and I will be outside the Boyce Farmers Market, asking people to sign copies. We hope to get enough to mail them out in strategic batches, so that the reform team will find it hard to ignore us. I'll also be posting it on social media and encouraging people to either print it out and snail-mail it, or copy the text and email it. If anyone else can volunteer to spend some time outside the farmers market on May 15, that would be much appreciated. I think we should also take advantage of the elections having just happened by then. I would like to have a sign on the table to call attention to this. Something like, "So how did you like your local election?" Only better than that. Does anyone have ideas? --? Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
-- Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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Re: Form letter to local governance reform team
Hi, Vivian.
You¡¯ve done a good job drafting this letter.
Attached is a copy of my letter which is based on it.
I think we would be wise to all make minor modifications to the text, as we see warranted.
John
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On May 3, 2021, at 6:25 PM, Patti Chmelyk < patti@...> wrote:
I think it's perfect, Vivian!? Maybe move the return address portion to the right margin and add (please print) so people print their names, addresses, and postal codes.? But that's just formatting.? Thanks so much I know how much thought and time you've put into this and it is appreciated!? Maybe, if we are successfulon the 15th, we could bring the action to the other markets - like Moncton, Saint John, etc. - local volunteers would, of course be needed. Cheers! Patti ? ? ? Hi everyone, Here's my second draft on a letter to the?local governance reform team. I'd like your input.? The plan: on May 15, from 8 to 12:30, Patti and I will be outside the Boyce Farmers Market, asking people to sign copies. We hope to get enough to mail them out in strategic batches, so that the reform team will find it hard to ignore us. I'll also be posting it on social media and encouraging people to either print it out and snail-mail it, or copy the text and email it. If anyone else can volunteer to spend some time outside the farmers market on May 15, that would be much appreciated. I think we should also take advantage of the elections having just happened by then. I would like to have a sign on the table to call attention to this. Something like, "So how did you like your local election?" Only better than that. Does anyone have ideas? --? Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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Re: Form letter to local governance reform team
I think it's perfect, Vivian!? Maybe move
the return address portion to the right margin and add (please print) so people
print their names, addresses, and postal codes.? But that's just formatting.?
Thanks so much I know how much thought and time you've put into this and it is
appreciated!? Maybe, if we are successfulon the 15th, we could bring the action
to the other markets - like Moncton, Saint John, etc. - local
volunteers would, of course be needed.
Cheers!
Patti
?
?
?
Hi everyone,
Here's my second draft on a letter to the?local governance reform
team. I'd like your input.?
The plan: on May 15, from 8 to 12:30, Patti and I will be outside the
Boyce Farmers Market, asking people to sign copies. We hope to get enough to
mail them out in strategic batches, so that the reform team will find it hard
to ignore us.
I'll also be posting it on social media and encouraging people to
either print it out and snail-mail it, or copy the text and email it.
If anyone else can volunteer to spend some time outside the farmers
market on May 15, that would be much appreciated.
I think we should also take advantage of the elections having just
happened by then. I would like to have a sign on the table to call attention to
this. Something like, "So how did you like your local election?" Only
better than that. Does anyone have ideas?
--
Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk
(Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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Form letter to local governance reform team
Hi everyone,
Here's my second draft on a letter to the?local governance reform team. I'd like your input.?
The plan: on May 15, from 8 to 12:30, Patti and I will be outside the Boyce Farmers Market, asking people to sign copies. We hope to get enough to mail them out in strategic batches, so that the reform team will find it hard to ignore us.
I'll also be posting it on social media and encouraging people to either print it out and snail-mail it, or copy the text and email it.
If anyone else can volunteer to spend some time outside the farmers market on May 15, that would be much appreciated.
I think we should also take advantage of the elections having just happened by then. I would like to have a sign on the table to call attention to this. Something like, "So how did you like your local election?" Only better than that. Does anyone have ideas?
Thanks, -- Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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Re: [fair-vote-fredericton] Minister of Local Governance Reform is looking for public input
Indeed. Yes, we need new councillors AND a new mayor.? I, too, am voting for Corinne Hersey.? She's progressive and values the environment.
Yes, I'm hoping hard that this election will get rid of some of those old bozos we have on city council. It would be great if we could get a change?of mayor too. I want Corrine Hersey.
Hi Vivian and Everyone,
ALL fantastic?ideas and views. I agree with the group...you do GREAT WORK, Vivian!? I concur...THANK-YOU for ALL the work that?you do.
Very true...municipalities do play a key role.? I'm a member of the Council of Canadians and we have been trying (multiple times)?to?get the MUN'l gov't - the current Fredericton city council - to declare a climate emergency. ?....and have basically been ignored.? This municipal election is VERY IMPORTANT. ? OUT with the OLD and IN with the NEW, I hope!?
I love the snail mail en mass idea, Patti...ALL the Activists in New Brunswick need more effective tools, as the municipal and provincial governments tend to ignore anyone fighting for?justice (environmental or otherwise), climate?change action, etc....basically, they ignore anyone who is anti-irving (small "i" intentional).
I, too, would appreciate a copy of the template letter.? It sounds like a planned snail mail "attack" is the way to go. Let me/us know how you would like to proceed. ?:O)
Have a great evening and weekend, All,?
Andrea
On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 at 17:33, Patti Chmelyk < patti@...> wrote:
The trick to this, though is to have
dozens arrive every day for several days (the more the better!) - the minions
who have to deal with the paperwork, will start complaining to their bosses.? We
need a critical mass for it to be most effective.? It is not free postage - we
(our issue group paid for the postage)? I'll contribute to such a campaign -
keeping in mind, I'm rich in love not cash LOL
Patti
?
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Interesting... I don't think I ever got an acknowledgment of my card.
?
I was thrilled to receive a letter of acknowledgement from the PMO,
ackowledging receipt of my Christmas card and assuring me that my views would
receive due consideration.
Signed by some minion, of course.
I was surprised to see that their envelope was run through a postage
meter.? I thought they enjoyed free postage too.
¡°Free¡±, as in paid for by tax payers, that is!
John
?
That's so cool, Patti!!!?
It's possible to send snail mail to the minister:
"20 McGloin Street,
2nd Floor, Fredericton, New Brunswick, E3B 5H1,
attention Local Governance Reform Team," it says on the website. I'll keep
that in mind,?send mine my snail mail and try to encourage the snail mail
option. I don't think it will be practical to distribute pre-printed letters
during a pandemic. FVC did something similar for Christmas: people could sign
up on their website to send a PR card to Justin Trudeau, and FVC sent all those
cards in their names themselves. They delivered all the cards in a truck. But
that's a hell of a lot of work.
?
On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 at 12:49, Patti Chmelyk <patti@...> wrote:
thank you for all you do, Vivian.? i, too, have had my head in
other things - like getting settled in our new NB home; getting our health care
and medication issues settled and cared for; getting to know our new community
and how these municipal elections work; taxes; and switching to retirement
income etc...? I liked the idea of a template letter to Higgs.? Just
a thought/possible suggestion once FairVoting4NB has a critical mass, or want
to launch a campaign:? I was once involved in an environmental fight that
found this worked in our favour and definitely got the attention of the powers
that be.? Snail mail letters have to be dealt with in the government
offices - it takes up a lot of administrative time AND requires a written,
snail-mail response.? So, we (had a small budget) pre-printed several
hundred letters (with the signature lines and return address lines left blank)
and envelopes and stamped the envelopes.? We then each took a bunch of the
letters and brought them out to supporters, family, friends, neighbours -
getting them to each sign the letter adding their address - sealed the signed
letters in front of the signers, and collected all the letters.? We then
would mail a bunch every day over the period of a couple of weeks - ensuring
that several letters arrived every day.? We had the relevant government
department begging us to stop.? BTW, we eventually won - the entire
campaign lasted about a year.?
Anyway - my apologies for being so silent for so long, and so
long-winded today!? I will participate - and appreciate - having a
template letter to send.??
Again, thank you for all you do.
Patti
So my impression
is that nobody?is really interested in a Zoom meeting. That's fine. I
think in any case that what I'd like to do, once I finish reading the green
paper, is write my own email to the Minister. I can then use that as a template
that other people can copy in writing their own email. I'll post about this on
the FB page and group and on Twitter. I hope you'll all send your own emails
too.
I think that
emails from a bunch of people will have more impact than, say, one email with a
bunch of signatures, like we did for the email to?Higgs.
If you think this
is a good plan, we can go with this rather than having a Zoom discussion about
what to do.
I'm hoping that
people won't dismiss this as unimportant just because it's municipal. I've read
that municipalities will be essential in responding to the climate crisis. They
won't be able to respond effectively as long as we continue electing
complacent, status-quo candidates with our terrible electoral system.
If anyone is
wondering how PR can work at the municipal level, let me know and I'll explain.
Great! I'd started
to think nobody would respond. Are you available next week? I've got lots of
free time.
As long as I'm
writing, I may as well attach my latest report on the status of electoral
reform in New Brunswick.
I wrote it last week, but nothing super-interesting has happened since. I still
haven't quite finished the green paper. I've hit a boring stretch. I hope to
get through it soon; certainly before our Zoom call.
Hi
Vivian,
I hope
all is well with you and yours.
I
would be interested in this,?if a?zoom meeting is planned.
Take
care and enjoy your evening,
Hi everyone,
As you may know, I
sent an email to Keith Chiasson about adding provisions for ranked ballots to
his bill concerning changes to the Municipal Elections Act. He's interested.
We've had lively discussions, both by phone and Zoom. I'll be sending more
information on that later.
He let me know
that the government?has released a green paper on municipal reform and is
looking for public input. There's nothing in there on electoral reform in
particular (no surprises there), but that doesn't mean we can't raise the
issue.
Is anyone
interested in having a Zoom meeting about how we can best seize the moment? If
so, let me know your availability.
You can find more
information, read the green paper and watch a video at?
Hoping to hear
from at least some of you,
Land
of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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Re: [fair-vote-fredericton] Minister of Local Governance Reform is looking for public input
Yes, I'm hoping hard that this election will get rid of some of those old bozos we have on city council. It would be great if we could get a change?of mayor too. I want Corrine Hersey.
Hi Vivian and Everyone,
ALL fantastic?ideas and views. I agree with the group...you do GREAT WORK, Vivian!? I concur...THANK-YOU for ALL the work that?you do.
Very true...municipalities do play a key role.? I'm a member of the Council of Canadians and we have been trying (multiple times)?to?get the MUN'l gov't - the current Fredericton city council - to declare a climate emergency. ?....and have basically been ignored.? This municipal election is VERY IMPORTANT. ? OUT with the OLD and IN with the NEW, I hope!?
I love the snail mail en mass idea, Patti...ALL the Activists in New Brunswick need more effective tools, as the municipal and provincial governments tend to ignore anyone fighting for?justice (environmental or otherwise), climate?change action, etc....basically, they ignore anyone who is anti-irving (small "i" intentional).
I, too, would appreciate a copy of the template letter.? It sounds like a planned snail mail "attack" is the way to go. Let me/us know how you would like to proceed. ?:O)
Have a great evening and weekend, All,?
Andrea
On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 at 17:33, Patti Chmelyk < patti@...> wrote:
The trick to this, though is to have
dozens arrive every day for several days (the more the better!) - the minions
who have to deal with the paperwork, will start complaining to their bosses.? We
need a critical mass for it to be most effective.? It is not free postage - we
(our issue group paid for the postage)? I'll contribute to such a campaign -
keeping in mind, I'm rich in love not cash LOL
Patti
?
?
Interesting... I don't think I ever got an acknowledgment of my card.
?
I was thrilled to receive a letter of acknowledgement from the PMO,
ackowledging receipt of my Christmas card and assuring me that my views would
receive due consideration.
Signed by some minion, of course.
I was surprised to see that their envelope was run through a postage
meter.? I thought they enjoyed free postage too.
¡°Free¡±, as in paid for by tax payers, that is!
John
?
That's so cool, Patti!!!?
It's possible to send snail mail to the minister:
"20 McGloin Street,
2nd Floor, Fredericton, New Brunswick, E3B 5H1,
attention Local Governance Reform Team," it says on the website. I'll keep
that in mind,?send mine my snail mail and try to encourage the snail mail
option. I don't think it will be practical to distribute pre-printed letters
during a pandemic. FVC did something similar for Christmas: people could sign
up on their website to send a PR card to Justin Trudeau, and FVC sent all those
cards in their names themselves. They delivered all the cards in a truck. But
that's a hell of a lot of work.
?
On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 at 12:49, Patti Chmelyk <patti@...> wrote:
thank you for all you do, Vivian.? i, too, have had my head in
other things - like getting settled in our new NB home; getting our health care
and medication issues settled and cared for; getting to know our new community
and how these municipal elections work; taxes; and switching to retirement
income etc...? I liked the idea of a template letter to Higgs.? Just
a thought/possible suggestion once FairVoting4NB has a critical mass, or want
to launch a campaign:? I was once involved in an environmental fight that
found this worked in our favour and definitely got the attention of the powers
that be.? Snail mail letters have to be dealt with in the government
offices - it takes up a lot of administrative time AND requires a written,
snail-mail response.? So, we (had a small budget) pre-printed several
hundred letters (with the signature lines and return address lines left blank)
and envelopes and stamped the envelopes.? We then each took a bunch of the
letters and brought them out to supporters, family, friends, neighbours -
getting them to each sign the letter adding their address - sealed the signed
letters in front of the signers, and collected all the letters.? We then
would mail a bunch every day over the period of a couple of weeks - ensuring
that several letters arrived every day.? We had the relevant government
department begging us to stop.? BTW, we eventually won - the entire
campaign lasted about a year.?
Anyway - my apologies for being so silent for so long, and so
long-winded today!? I will participate - and appreciate - having a
template letter to send.??
Again, thank you for all you do.
Patti
So my impression
is that nobody?is really interested in a Zoom meeting. That's fine. I
think in any case that what I'd like to do, once I finish reading the green
paper, is write my own email to the Minister. I can then use that as a template
that other people can copy in writing their own email. I'll post about this on
the FB page and group and on Twitter. I hope you'll all send your own emails
too.
I think that
emails from a bunch of people will have more impact than, say, one email with a
bunch of signatures, like we did for the email to?Higgs.
If you think this
is a good plan, we can go with this rather than having a Zoom discussion about
what to do.
I'm hoping that
people won't dismiss this as unimportant just because it's municipal. I've read
that municipalities will be essential in responding to the climate crisis. They
won't be able to respond effectively as long as we continue electing
complacent, status-quo candidates with our terrible electoral system.
If anyone is
wondering how PR can work at the municipal level, let me know and I'll explain.
Great! I'd started
to think nobody would respond. Are you available next week? I've got lots of
free time.
As long as I'm
writing, I may as well attach my latest report on the status of electoral
reform in New Brunswick.
I wrote it last week, but nothing super-interesting has happened since. I still
haven't quite finished the green paper. I've hit a boring stretch. I hope to
get through it soon; certainly before our Zoom call.
Hi
Vivian,
I hope
all is well with you and yours.
I
would be interested in this,?if a?zoom meeting is planned.
Take
care and enjoy your evening,
Hi everyone,
As you may know, I
sent an email to Keith Chiasson about adding provisions for ranked ballots to
his bill concerning changes to the Municipal Elections Act. He's interested.
We've had lively discussions, both by phone and Zoom. I'll be sending more
information on that later.
He let me know
that the government?has released a green paper on municipal reform and is
looking for public input. There's nothing in there on electoral reform in
particular (no surprises there), but that doesn't mean we can't raise the
issue.
Is anyone
interested in having a Zoom meeting about how we can best seize the moment? If
so, let me know your availability.
You can find more
information, read the green paper and watch a video at?
Hoping to hear
from at least some of you,
Land
of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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Re: [fair-vote-fredericton] Minister of Local Governance Reform is looking for public input
Thank you Andrea.? I am available for a
planning session and\or discussion re a snail-mail attack.? P
?
From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrea Francis
Sent: April-23-21 7:38 PM
To: Vivian Unger;
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [FairVoting4NB]
[fair-vote-fredericton] Minister of Local Governance Reform is looking for
public input
?
Hi Vivian and Everyone,
ALL fantastic?ideas and views. I agree with the
group...you do GREAT WORK, Vivian!? I concur...THANK-YOU for ALL the work
that?you do.
Very true...municipalities do play a key role.? I'm
a member of the Council of Canadians and we have been trying (multiple
times)?to?get
the MUN'l gov't - the current Fredericton
city council - to declare a climate emergency. ?....and have basically
been ignored.? This municipal election is VERY IMPORTANT. ? OUT with
the OLD and IN with the NEW, I hope!?
I love the snail mail en mass idea, Patti...ALL the
Activists in New Brunswick need more effective tools, as the municipal and
provincial governments tend to ignore anyone fighting for?justice
(environmental or otherwise), climate?change action, etc....basically,
they ignore anyone who is anti-irving (small "i" intentional).
I, too, would appreciate a copy of the template
letter.? It sounds like a planned snail mail "attack" is the way
to go. Let me/us know how you would like to proceed. ?:O)
Have a great evening and weekend, All,?
?
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 at 17:33, Patti Chmelyk <patti@...> wrote:
The trick to this, though is to have dozens arrive every day for
several days (the more the better!) - the minions who have to deal with the
paperwork, will start complaining to their bosses.? We need a critical
mass for it to be most effective.? It is not free postage - we (our issue
group paid for the postage)? I'll contribute to such a campaign - keeping
in mind, I'm rich in love not cash LOL
Patti
?
?
Interesting... I
don't think I ever got an acknowledgment of my card.
?
I was thrilled to
receive a letter of acknowledgement from the PMO, ackowledging receipt of my
Christmas card and assuring me that my views would receive due consideration.
Signed by some
minion, of course.
I was surprised to
see that their envelope was run through a postage meter.? I thought they
enjoyed free postage too.
¡°Free¡±, as in paid
for by tax payers, that is!
John
?
?
That's
so cool, Patti!!!?
It's
possible to send snail mail to the minister: "20 McGloin Street, 2nd Floor, Fredericton, New
Brunswick, E3B 5H1,
attention Local Governance Reform Team," it says on the website. I'll keep
that in mind,?send mine my snail mail and try to encourage the snail mail
option. I don't think it will be practical to distribute pre-printed letters
during a pandemic. FVC did something similar for Christmas: people could sign
up on their website to send a PR card to Justin Trudeau, and FVC sent all those
cards in their names themselves. They delivered all the cards in a truck. But
that's a hell of a lot of work.
?
On
Fri, 23 Apr 2021 at 12:49, Patti Chmelyk <patti@...> wrote:
thank you for all you do, Vivian.? i, too, have had my head in
other things - like getting settled in our new NB home; getting our health care
and medication issues settled and cared for; getting to know our new community
and how these municipal elections work; taxes; and switching to retirement
income etc...? I liked the idea of a template letter to Higgs.? Just
a thought/possible suggestion once FairVoting4NB has a critical mass, or want
to launch a campaign:? I was once involved in an environmental fight that
found this worked in our favour and definitely got the attention of the powers
that be.? Snail mail letters have to be dealt with in the government
offices - it takes up a lot of administrative time AND requires a written,
snail-mail response.? So, we (had a small budget) pre-printed several
hundred letters (with the signature lines and return address lines left blank)
and envelopes and stamped the envelopes.? We then each took a bunch of the
letters and brought them out to supporters, family, friends, neighbours -
getting them to each sign the letter adding their address - sealed the signed
letters in front of the signers, and collected all the letters.? We then
would mail a bunch every day over the period of a couple of weeks - ensuring
that several letters arrived every day.? We had the relevant government
department begging us to stop.? BTW, we eventually won - the entire
campaign lasted about a year.?
Anyway - my apologies for being so silent for so long, and so
long-winded today!? I will participate - and appreciate - having a
template letter to send.??
Again, thank you for all you do.
Patti
So my impression is
that nobody?is really interested in a Zoom meeting. That's fine. I think
in any case that what I'd like to do, once I finish reading the green paper, is
write my own email to the Minister. I can then use that as a template that
other people can copy in writing their own email. I'll post about this on the
FB page and group and on Twitter. I hope you'll all send your own emails too.
I think that
emails from a bunch of people will have more impact than, say, one email with a
bunch of signatures, like we did for the email to?Higgs.
If you think this
is a good plan, we can go with this rather than having a Zoom discussion about
what to do.
I'm hoping that
people won't dismiss this as unimportant just because it's municipal. I've read
that municipalities will be essential in responding to the climate crisis. They
won't be able to respond effectively as long as we continue electing
complacent, status-quo candidates with our terrible electoral system.
If anyone is
wondering how PR can work at the municipal level, let me know and I'll explain.
Great! I'd started
to think nobody would respond. Are you available next week? I've got lots of
free time.
As long as I'm
writing, I may as well attach my latest report on the status of electoral
reform in New Brunswick.
I wrote it last week, but nothing super-interesting has happened since. I still
haven't quite finished the green paper. I've hit a boring stretch. I hope to
get through it soon; certainly before our Zoom call.
Hi
Vivian,
I hope
all is well with you and yours.
I
would be interested in this,?if a?zoom meeting is planned.
Take
care and enjoy your evening,
Hi everyone,
As you may know, I
sent an email to Keith Chiasson about adding provisions for ranked ballots to
his bill concerning changes to the Municipal Elections Act. He's interested.
We've had lively discussions, both by phone and Zoom. I'll be sending more
information on that later.
He let me know
that the government?has released a green paper on municipal reform and is
looking for public input. There's nothing in there on electoral reform in
particular (no surprises there), but that doesn't mean we can't raise the
issue.
Is anyone
interested in having a Zoom meeting about how we can best seize the moment? If
so, let me know your availability.
You can find more
information, read the green paper and watch a video at?
Hoping to hear
from at least some of you,
Land
of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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Re: [fair-vote-fredericton] Minister of Local Governance Reform is looking for public input
Hi Vivian and Everyone,
ALL fantastic?ideas and views. I agree with the group...you do GREAT WORK, Vivian!? I concur...THANK-YOU for ALL the work that?you do.
Very true...municipalities do play a key role.? I'm a member of the Council of Canadians and we have been trying (multiple times)?to?get the MUN'l gov't - the current Fredericton city council - to declare a climate emergency. ?....and have basically been ignored.? This municipal election is VERY IMPORTANT. ? OUT with the OLD and IN with the NEW, I hope!?
I love the snail mail en mass idea, Patti...ALL the Activists in New Brunswick need more effective tools, as the municipal and provincial governments tend to ignore anyone fighting for?justice (environmental or otherwise), climate?change action, etc....basically, they ignore anyone who is anti-irving (small "i" intentional).
I, too, would appreciate a copy of the template letter.? It sounds like a planned snail mail "attack" is the way to go. Let me/us know how you would like to proceed. ?:O)
Have a great evening and weekend, All,?
Andrea
On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 at 17:33, Patti Chmelyk < patti@...> wrote:
The trick to this, though is to have
dozens arrive every day for several days (the more the better!) - the minions
who have to deal with the paperwork, will start complaining to their bosses.? We
need a critical mass for it to be most effective.? It is not free postage - we
(our issue group paid for the postage)? I'll contribute to such a campaign -
keeping in mind, I'm rich in love not cash LOL
Patti
?
?
Interesting... I don't think I ever got an acknowledgment of my card.
?
I was thrilled to receive a letter of acknowledgement from the PMO,
ackowledging receipt of my Christmas card and assuring me that my views would
receive due consideration.
Signed by some minion, of course.
I was surprised to see that their envelope was run through a postage
meter.? I thought they enjoyed free postage too.
¡°Free¡±, as in paid for by tax payers, that is!
John
?
That's so cool, Patti!!!?
It's possible to send snail mail to the minister:
"20 McGloin Street,
2nd Floor, Fredericton, New Brunswick, E3B 5H1,
attention Local Governance Reform Team," it says on the website. I'll keep
that in mind,?send mine my snail mail and try to encourage the snail mail
option. I don't think it will be practical to distribute pre-printed letters
during a pandemic. FVC did something similar for Christmas: people could sign
up on their website to send a PR card to Justin Trudeau, and FVC sent all those
cards in their names themselves. They delivered all the cards in a truck. But
that's a hell of a lot of work.
?
On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 at 12:49, Patti Chmelyk <patti@...> wrote:
thank you for all you do, Vivian.? i, too, have had my head in
other things - like getting settled in our new NB home; getting our health care
and medication issues settled and cared for; getting to know our new community
and how these municipal elections work; taxes; and switching to retirement
income etc...? I liked the idea of a template letter to Higgs.? Just
a thought/possible suggestion once FairVoting4NB has a critical mass, or want
to launch a campaign:? I was once involved in an environmental fight that
found this worked in our favour and definitely got the attention of the powers
that be.? Snail mail letters have to be dealt with in the government
offices - it takes up a lot of administrative time AND requires a written,
snail-mail response.? So, we (had a small budget) pre-printed several
hundred letters (with the signature lines and return address lines left blank)
and envelopes and stamped the envelopes.? We then each took a bunch of the
letters and brought them out to supporters, family, friends, neighbours -
getting them to each sign the letter adding their address - sealed the signed
letters in front of the signers, and collected all the letters.? We then
would mail a bunch every day over the period of a couple of weeks - ensuring
that several letters arrived every day.? We had the relevant government
department begging us to stop.? BTW, we eventually won - the entire
campaign lasted about a year.?
Anyway - my apologies for being so silent for so long, and so
long-winded today!? I will participate - and appreciate - having a
template letter to send.??
Again, thank you for all you do.
Patti
So my impression
is that nobody?is really interested in a Zoom meeting. That's fine. I
think in any case that what I'd like to do, once I finish reading the green
paper, is write my own email to the Minister. I can then use that as a template
that other people can copy in writing their own email. I'll post about this on
the FB page and group and on Twitter. I hope you'll all send your own emails
too.
I think that
emails from a bunch of people will have more impact than, say, one email with a
bunch of signatures, like we did for the email to?Higgs.
If you think this
is a good plan, we can go with this rather than having a Zoom discussion about
what to do.
I'm hoping that
people won't dismiss this as unimportant just because it's municipal. I've read
that municipalities will be essential in responding to the climate crisis. They
won't be able to respond effectively as long as we continue electing
complacent, status-quo candidates with our terrible electoral system.
If anyone is
wondering how PR can work at the municipal level, let me know and I'll explain.
Great! I'd started
to think nobody would respond. Are you available next week? I've got lots of
free time.
As long as I'm
writing, I may as well attach my latest report on the status of electoral
reform in New Brunswick.
I wrote it last week, but nothing super-interesting has happened since. I still
haven't quite finished the green paper. I've hit a boring stretch. I hope to
get through it soon; certainly before our Zoom call.
Hi
Vivian,
I hope
all is well with you and yours.
I
would be interested in this,?if a?zoom meeting is planned.
Take
care and enjoy your evening,
Hi everyone,
As you may know, I
sent an email to Keith Chiasson about adding provisions for ranked ballots to
his bill concerning changes to the Municipal Elections Act. He's interested.
We've had lively discussions, both by phone and Zoom. I'll be sending more
information on that later.
He let me know
that the government?has released a green paper on municipal reform and is
looking for public input. There's nothing in there on electoral reform in
particular (no surprises there), but that doesn't mean we can't raise the
issue.
Is anyone
interested in having a Zoom meeting about how we can best seize the moment? If
so, let me know your availability.
You can find more
information, read the green paper and watch a video at?
Hoping to hear
from at least some of you,
Land
of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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Re: [fair-vote-fredericton] Minister of Local Governance Reform is looking for public input
The trick to this, though is to have
dozens arrive every day for several days (the more the better!) - the minions
who have to deal with the paperwork, will start complaining to their bosses.? We
need a critical mass for it to be most effective.? It is not free postage - we
(our issue group paid for the postage)? I'll contribute to such a campaign -
keeping in mind, I'm rich in love not cash LOL
Patti
?
?
Interesting... I don't think I ever got an acknowledgment of my card.
?
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Show quoted text
On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 at 14:46, John Filliter <johndfilliter@...> wrote:
I was thrilled to receive a letter of acknowledgement from the PMO,
ackowledging receipt of my Christmas card and assuring me that my views would
receive due consideration.
Signed by some minion, of course.
I was surprised to see that their envelope was run through a postage
meter.? I thought they enjoyed free postage too.
¡°Free¡±, as in paid for by tax payers, that is!
John
?
That's so cool, Patti!!!?
It's possible to send snail mail to the minister:
"20 McGloin Street,
2nd Floor, Fredericton, New Brunswick, E3B 5H1,
attention Local Governance Reform Team," it says on the website. I'll keep
that in mind,?send mine my snail mail and try to encourage the snail mail
option. I don't think it will be practical to distribute pre-printed letters
during a pandemic. FVC did something similar for Christmas: people could sign
up on their website to send a PR card to Justin Trudeau, and FVC sent all those
cards in their names themselves. They delivered all the cards in a truck. But
that's a hell of a lot of work.
?
On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 at 12:49, Patti Chmelyk <patti@...> wrote:
thank you for all you do, Vivian.? i, too, have had my head in
other things - like getting settled in our new NB home; getting our health care
and medication issues settled and cared for; getting to know our new community
and how these municipal elections work; taxes; and switching to retirement
income etc...? I liked the idea of a template letter to Higgs.? Just
a thought/possible suggestion once FairVoting4NB has a critical mass, or want
to launch a campaign:? I was once involved in an environmental fight that
found this worked in our favour and definitely got the attention of the powers
that be.? Snail mail letters have to be dealt with in the government
offices - it takes up a lot of administrative time AND requires a written,
snail-mail response.? So, we (had a small budget) pre-printed several
hundred letters (with the signature lines and return address lines left blank)
and envelopes and stamped the envelopes.? We then each took a bunch of the
letters and brought them out to supporters, family, friends, neighbours -
getting them to each sign the letter adding their address - sealed the signed
letters in front of the signers, and collected all the letters.? We then
would mail a bunch every day over the period of a couple of weeks - ensuring
that several letters arrived every day.? We had the relevant government
department begging us to stop.? BTW, we eventually won - the entire
campaign lasted about a year.?
Anyway - my apologies for being so silent for so long, and so
long-winded today!? I will participate - and appreciate - having a
template letter to send.??
Again, thank you for all you do.
Patti
So my impression
is that nobody?is really interested in a Zoom meeting. That's fine. I
think in any case that what I'd like to do, once I finish reading the green
paper, is write my own email to the Minister. I can then use that as a template
that other people can copy in writing their own email. I'll post about this on
the FB page and group and on Twitter. I hope you'll all send your own emails
too.
I think that
emails from a bunch of people will have more impact than, say, one email with a
bunch of signatures, like we did for the email to?Higgs.
If you think this
is a good plan, we can go with this rather than having a Zoom discussion about
what to do.
I'm hoping that
people won't dismiss this as unimportant just because it's municipal. I've read
that municipalities will be essential in responding to the climate crisis. They
won't be able to respond effectively as long as we continue electing
complacent, status-quo candidates with our terrible electoral system.
If anyone is
wondering how PR can work at the municipal level, let me know and I'll explain.
Great! I'd started
to think nobody would respond. Are you available next week? I've got lots of
free time.
As long as I'm
writing, I may as well attach my latest report on the status of electoral
reform in New Brunswick.
I wrote it last week, but nothing super-interesting has happened since. I still
haven't quite finished the green paper. I've hit a boring stretch. I hope to
get through it soon; certainly before our Zoom call.
Hi
Vivian,
I hope
all is well with you and yours.
I
would be interested in this,?if a?zoom meeting is planned.
Take
care and enjoy your evening,
Hi everyone,
As you may know, I
sent an email to Keith Chiasson about adding provisions for ranked ballots to
his bill concerning changes to the Municipal Elections Act. He's interested.
We've had lively discussions, both by phone and Zoom. I'll be sending more
information on that later.
He let me know
that the government?has released a green paper on municipal reform and is
looking for public input. There's nothing in there on electoral reform in
particular (no surprises there), but that doesn't mean we can't raise the
issue.
Is anyone
interested in having a Zoom meeting about how we can best seize the moment? If
so, let me know your availability.
You can find more
information, read the green paper and watch a video at?
Hoping to hear
from at least some of you,
Land
of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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Re: [fair-vote-fredericton] Minister of Local Governance Reform is looking for public input
Interesting... I don't think I ever got an acknowledgment of my card.
I was thrilled to receive a letter of acknowledgement from the PMO, ackowledging receipt of my Christmas card and assuring me that my views would receive due consideration.
Signed by some minion, of course.
I was surprised to see that their envelope was run through a postage meter.? I thought they enjoyed free postage too.
¡°Free¡±, as in paid for by tax payers, that is!
John
That's so cool, Patti!!!?
It's possible to send snail mail to the minister: "20 McGloin Street, 2nd Floor, Fredericton, New Brunswick, E3B 5H1, attention Local Governance Reform Team," it says on the website. I'll keep that in mind,?send mine my snail mail and try to encourage the snail mail option. I don't think it will be practical to distribute pre-printed letters during a pandemic. FVC did something similar for Christmas: people could sign up on their website to send a PR card to Justin Trudeau, and FVC sent all those cards in their names themselves. They delivered all the cards in a truck. But that's a hell of a lot of work.
Vivian On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 at 12:49, Patti Chmelyk < patti@...> wrote: thank you for all you do, Vivian.? i, too, have had my head in other things - like getting settled in our new NB home; getting our health care and medication issues settled and cared for; getting to know our new community and how these municipal elections work; taxes; and switching to retirement income etc...? I liked the idea of a template letter to Higgs.? Just a thought/possible suggestion once FairVoting4NB has a critical mass, or want to launch a campaign:? I was once involved in an environmental fight that found this worked in our favour and definitely got the attention of the powers that be.? Snail mail letters have to be dealt with in the government offices - it takes up a lot of administrative time AND requires a written, snail-mail response.? So, we (had a small budget) pre-printed several hundred letters (with the signature lines and return address lines left blank) and envelopes and stamped the envelopes.? We then each took a bunch of the letters and brought them out to supporters, family, friends, neighbours - getting them to each sign the letter adding their address - sealed the signed letters in front of the signers, and collected all the letters.? We then would mail a bunch every day over the period of a couple of weeks - ensuring that several letters arrived every day.? We had the relevant government department begging us to stop.? BTW, we eventually won - the entire campaign lasted about a year.? ?
Anyway - my apologies for being so silent for so long, and so long-winded today!? I will participate - and appreciate - having a template letter to send.?? ?
Again, thank you for all you do. Patti ?
So my impression is that nobody?is really interested in a Zoom meeting. That's fine. I think in any case that what I'd like to do, once I finish reading the green paper, is write my own email to the Minister. I can then use that as a template that other people can copy in writing their own email. I'll post about this on the FB page and group and on Twitter. I hope you'll all send your own emails too. I think that emails from a bunch of people will have more impact than, say, one email with a bunch of signatures, like we did for the email to?Higgs. If you think this is a good plan, we can go with this rather than having a Zoom discussion about what to do. I'm hoping that people won't dismiss this as unimportant just because it's municipal. I've read that municipalities will be essential in responding to the climate crisis. They won't be able to respond effectively as long as we continue electing complacent, status-quo candidates with our terrible electoral system. If anyone is wondering how PR can work at the municipal level, let me know and I'll explain. ?
Great! I'd started to think nobody would respond. Are you available next week? I've got lots of free time. As long as I'm writing, I may as well attach my latest report on the status of electoral reform in New Brunswick. I wrote it last week, but nothing super-interesting has happened since. I still haven't quite finished the green paper. I've hit a boring stretch. I hope to get through it soon; certainly before our Zoom call. ?
Hi Vivian, I hope all is well with you and yours. I would be interested in this,?if a?zoom meeting is planned. Take care and enjoy your evening, ?
Hi everyone, As you may know, I sent an email to Keith Chiasson about adding provisions for ranked ballots to his bill concerning changes to the Municipal Elections Act. He's interested. We've had lively discussions, both by phone and Zoom. I'll be sending more information on that later. He let me know that the government?has released a green paper on municipal reform and is looking for public input. There's nothing in there on electoral reform in particular (no surprises there), but that doesn't mean we can't raise the issue. Is anyone interested in having a Zoom meeting about how we can best seize the moment? If so, let me know your availability. You can find more information, read the green paper and watch a video at? Hoping to hear from at least some of you, Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq --?
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Re: [fair-vote-fredericton] Minister of Local Governance Reform is looking for public input
I was thrilled to receive a letter of acknowledgement from the PMO, ackowledging receipt of my Christmas card and assuring me that my views would receive due consideration.
Signed by some minion, of course.
I was surprised to see that their envelope was run through a postage meter. ?I thought they enjoyed free postage too.
¡°Free¡±, as in paid for by tax payers, that is!
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That's so cool, Patti!!!?
It's possible to send snail mail to the minister: "20 McGloin Street, 2nd Floor, Fredericton, New Brunswick, E3B 5H1, attention Local Governance Reform Team," it says on the website. I'll keep that in mind,?send mine my snail mail and try to encourage the snail mail option. I don't think it will be practical to distribute pre-printed letters during a pandemic. FVC did something similar for Christmas: people could sign up on their website to send a PR card to Justin Trudeau, and FVC sent all those cards in their names themselves. They delivered all the cards in a truck. But that's a hell of a lot of work.
Vivian On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 at 12:49, Patti Chmelyk < patti@...> wrote: thank you for all you do, Vivian.? i, too, have had my head in other things - like getting settled in our new NB home; getting our health care and medication issues settled and cared for; getting to know our new community and how these municipal elections work; taxes; and switching to retirement income etc...? I liked the idea of a template letter to Higgs.? Just a thought/possible suggestion once FairVoting4NB has a critical mass, or want to launch a campaign:? I was once involved in an environmental fight that found this worked in our favour and definitely got the attention of the powers that be.? Snail mail letters have to be dealt with in the government offices - it takes up a lot of administrative time AND requires a written, snail-mail response.? So, we (had a small budget) pre-printed several hundred letters (with the signature lines and return address lines left blank) and envelopes and stamped the envelopes.? We then each took a bunch of the letters and brought them out to supporters, family, friends, neighbours - getting them to each sign the letter adding their address - sealed the signed letters in front of the signers, and collected all the letters.? We then would mail a bunch every day over the period of a couple of weeks - ensuring that several letters arrived every day.? We had the relevant government department begging us to stop.? BTW, we eventually won - the entire campaign lasted about a year.? ?
Anyway - my apologies for being so silent for so long, and so long-winded today!? I will participate - and appreciate - having a template letter to send.?? ?
Again, thank you for all you do. Patti ?
So my impression is that nobody?is really interested in a Zoom meeting. That's fine. I think in any case that what I'd like to do, once I finish reading the green paper, is write my own email to the Minister. I can then use that as a template that other people can copy in writing their own email. I'll post about this on the FB page and group and on Twitter. I hope you'll all send your own emails too. I think that emails from a bunch of people will have more impact than, say, one email with a bunch of signatures, like we did for the email to?Higgs. If you think this is a good plan, we can go with this rather than having a Zoom discussion about what to do. I'm hoping that people won't dismiss this as unimportant just because it's municipal. I've read that municipalities will be essential in responding to the climate crisis. They won't be able to respond effectively as long as we continue electing complacent, status-quo candidates with our terrible electoral system. If anyone is wondering how PR can work at the municipal level, let me know and I'll explain. ?
Great! I'd started to think nobody would respond. Are you available next week? I've got lots of free time. As long as I'm writing, I may as well attach my latest report on the status of electoral reform in New Brunswick. I wrote it last week, but nothing super-interesting has happened since. I still haven't quite finished the green paper. I've hit a boring stretch. I hope to get through it soon; certainly before our Zoom call. ?
Hi Vivian, I hope all is well with you and yours. I would be interested in this,?if a?zoom meeting is planned. Take care and enjoy your evening, ?
Hi everyone, As you may know, I sent an email to Keith Chiasson about adding provisions for ranked ballots to his bill concerning changes to the Municipal Elections Act. He's interested. We've had lively discussions, both by phone and Zoom. I'll be sending more information on that later. He let me know that the government?has released a green paper on municipal reform and is looking for public input. There's nothing in there on electoral reform in particular (no surprises there), but that doesn't mean we can't raise the issue. Is anyone interested in having a Zoom meeting about how we can best seize the moment? If so, let me know your availability. You can find more information, read the green paper and watch a video at? Hoping to hear from at least some of you, Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq --?
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Re: [fair-vote-fredericton] Minister of Local Governance Reform is looking for public input
That's so cool, Patti!!!?
It's possible to send snail mail to the minister: "20 McGloin Street, 2nd Floor, Fredericton, New Brunswick, E3B 5H1, attention Local Governance Reform Team," it says on the website. I'll keep that in mind,?send mine my snail mail and try to encourage the snail mail option. I don't think it will be practical to distribute pre-printed letters during a pandemic. FVC did something similar for Christmas: people could sign up on their website to send a PR card to Justin Trudeau, and FVC sent all those cards in their names themselves. They delivered all the cards in a truck. But that's a hell of a lot of work.
Vivian
On Fri, 23 Apr 2021 at 12:49, Patti Chmelyk < patti@...> wrote:
thank you for all you do, Vivian.? i, too,
have had my head in other things - like getting settled in our new NB home;
getting our health care and medication issues settled and cared for; getting to
know our new community and how these municipal elections work; taxes; and
switching to retirement income etc...? I liked the idea of a template letter to
Higgs.? Just a thought/possible suggestion once FairVoting4NB has a critical
mass, or want to launch a campaign:? I was once involved in an environmental
fight that found this worked in our favour and definitely got the attention of
the powers that be.? Snail mail letters have to be dealt with in the government
offices - it takes up a lot of administrative time AND requires a written,
snail-mail response.? So, we (had a small budget) pre-printed several hundred
letters (with the signature lines and return address lines left blank) and
envelopes and stamped the envelopes.? We then each took a bunch of the letters
and brought them out to supporters, family, friends, neighbours - getting them
to each sign the letter adding their address - sealed the signed letters in
front of the signers, and collected all the letters.? We then would mail a
bunch every day over the period of a couple of weeks - ensuring that several
letters arrived every day.? We had the relevant government department begging
us to stop.? BTW, we eventually won - the entire campaign lasted about a year.?
?
Anyway - my apologies for being so silent
for so long, and so long-winded today!? I will participate - and appreciate -
having a template letter to send.?
?
Again, thank you for all you do.
Patti
?
So my impression is that nobody?is really interested in a Zoom
meeting. That's fine. I think in any case that what I'd like to do, once I
finish reading the green paper, is write my own email to the Minister. I can
then use that as a template that other people can copy in writing their own
email. I'll post about this on the FB page and group and on Twitter. I hope
you'll all send your own emails too.
I think that emails from a bunch of people will have more impact than,
say, one email with a bunch of signatures, like we did for the email
to?Higgs.
If you think this is a good plan, we can go with this rather than
having a Zoom discussion about what to do.
I'm hoping that people won't dismiss this as unimportant just because
it's municipal. I've read that municipalities will be essential in responding
to the climate crisis. They won't be able to respond effectively as long as we
continue electing complacent, status-quo candidates with our terrible electoral
system.
If anyone is wondering how PR can work at the municipal level, let me
know and I'll explain.
?
Great! I'd started to think nobody would respond. Are you available
next week? I've got lots of free time.
As long as I'm writing, I may as well attach my latest report on the
status of electoral reform in New
Brunswick. I wrote it last week, but nothing
super-interesting has happened since. I still haven't quite finished the green
paper. I've hit a boring stretch. I hope to get through it soon; certainly before
our Zoom call.
?
Hi Vivian,
I hope all is well with you and yours.
I would be interested in this,?if a?zoom
meeting is planned.
Take care and enjoy your evening,
?
Hi everyone,
As you may know, I sent an email to Keith Chiasson about adding
provisions for ranked ballots to his bill concerning changes to the Municipal
Elections Act. He's interested. We've had lively discussions, both by phone and
Zoom. I'll be sending more information on that later.
He let me know that the government?has released a green paper on
municipal reform and is looking for public input. There's nothing in there on
electoral reform in particular (no surprises there), but that doesn't mean we
can't raise the issue.
Is anyone interested in having a Zoom meeting about how we can best
seize the moment? If so, let me know your availability.
You can find more information, read the green paper and watch a video
at?
Hoping to hear from at least some of you,
Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk
(Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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Re: [fair-vote-fredericton] Minister of Local Governance Reform is looking for public input
thank you for all you do, Vivian.? i, too,
have had my head in other things - like getting settled in our new NB home;
getting our health care and medication issues settled and cared for; getting to
know our new community and how these municipal elections work; taxes; and
switching to retirement income etc...? I liked the idea of a template letter to
Higgs.? Just a thought/possible suggestion once FairVoting4NB has a critical
mass, or want to launch a campaign:? I was once involved in an environmental
fight that found this worked in our favour and definitely got the attention of
the powers that be.? Snail mail letters have to be dealt with in the government
offices - it takes up a lot of administrative time AND requires a written,
snail-mail response.? So, we (had a small budget) pre-printed several hundred
letters (with the signature lines and return address lines left blank) and
envelopes and stamped the envelopes.? We then each took a bunch of the letters
and brought them out to supporters, family, friends, neighbours - getting them
to each sign the letter adding their address - sealed the signed letters in
front of the signers, and collected all the letters.? We then would mail a
bunch every day over the period of a couple of weeks - ensuring that several
letters arrived every day.? We had the relevant government department begging
us to stop.? BTW, we eventually won - the entire campaign lasted about a year.?
?
Anyway - my apologies for being so silent
for so long, and so long-winded today!? I will participate - and appreciate -
having a template letter to send.?
?
Again, thank you for all you do.
Patti
?
So my impression is that nobody?is really interested in a Zoom
meeting. That's fine. I think in any case that what I'd like to do, once I
finish reading the green paper, is write my own email to the Minister. I can
then use that as a template that other people can copy in writing their own
email. I'll post about this on the FB page and group and on Twitter. I hope
you'll all send your own emails too.
I think that emails from a bunch of people will have more impact than,
say, one email with a bunch of signatures, like we did for the email
to?Higgs.
If you think this is a good plan, we can go with this rather than
having a Zoom discussion about what to do.
I'm hoping that people won't dismiss this as unimportant just because
it's municipal. I've read that municipalities will be essential in responding
to the climate crisis. They won't be able to respond effectively as long as we
continue electing complacent, status-quo candidates with our terrible electoral
system.
If anyone is wondering how PR can work at the municipal level, let me
know and I'll explain.
?
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On Wed, 21 Apr 2021 at 09:51, Vivian via
<vivian.unger=[email protected]>
wrote:
Great! I'd started to think nobody would respond. Are you available
next week? I've got lots of free time.
As long as I'm writing, I may as well attach my latest report on the
status of electoral reform in New
Brunswick. I wrote it last week, but nothing
super-interesting has happened since. I still haven't quite finished the green
paper. I've hit a boring stretch. I hope to get through it soon; certainly before
our Zoom call.
?
Hi Vivian,
I hope all is well with you and yours.
I would be interested in this,?if a?zoom
meeting is planned.
Take care and enjoy your evening,
?
Hi everyone,
As you may know, I sent an email to Keith Chiasson about adding
provisions for ranked ballots to his bill concerning changes to the Municipal
Elections Act. He's interested. We've had lively discussions, both by phone and
Zoom. I'll be sending more information on that later.
He let me know that the government?has released a green paper on
municipal reform and is looking for public input. There's nothing in there on
electoral reform in particular (no surprises there), but that doesn't mean we
can't raise the issue.
Is anyone interested in having a Zoom meeting about how we can best
seize the moment? If so, let me know your availability.
You can find more information, read the green paper and watch a video
at?
Hoping to hear from at least some of you,
Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk
(Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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