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UV-25... Need some help


Richard Patrick
 

Greetings;
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I bought a UV-25 from an Ebay store, and the radios receiver was Insensitive, it receives poorly.? ?
?
After complaining, the Ebay seller sent me another radio.? ?It turns out that both radios receivers are insensitive.??
?
Using a TinyVNA's signal generator, through a switched step attenuator, the full quieting receive level is approximately -90dBm on 146, 440 MHz + WX channels.? ? This level equates to approx. 6uV, or S6.? ? ?VNA's signal generator sends a quiet carrier, no modulation.
?
Using the same testing method on my other handy talkies, I achieve full quieting at -115 to -120 dBm.? ? ? ? ? Note:? I used my Rigol Spec Analyzer to verify that my test signals are accurate +/- 1dB.??
?
Searching Google and Youtube for help- I find Zilch.? ?Could there an option that I don't understand the meaning of that could be set wrong?? ? ?Any help is much appreciated.
?
Thanks in Advance.
--
73,
Ricky? ?
Ammon, ID


 

Have you considered a ba lot of radios, possibly?

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On Jul 18, 2024, at 13:03, Richard Patrick <599kr7w@...> wrote:

Greetings;
?
I bought a UV-25 from an Ebay store, and the radios receiver was Insensitive, it receives poorly.? ?
?
After complaining, the Ebay seller sent me another radio.? ?It turns out that both radios receivers are insensitive.??
?
Using a TinyVNA's signal generator, through a switched step attenuator, the full quieting receive level is approximately -90dBm on 146, 440 MHz + WX channels.? ? This level equates to approx. 6uV, or S6.? ? ?VNA's signal generator sends a quiet carrier, no modulation.
?
Using the same testing method on my other handy talkies, I achieve full quieting at -115 to -120 dBm.? ? ? ? ? Note:? I used my Rigol Spec Analyzer to verify that my test signals are accurate +/- 1dB.??
?
Searching Google and Youtube for help- I find Zilch.? ?Could there an option that I don't understand the meaning of that could be set wrong?? ? ?Any help is much appreciated.
?
Thanks in Advance.
--
73,
Ricky? ?
Ammon, ID


 

That was supposed to be bad.

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On Jul 18, 2024, at 13:34, "Dave Springer via " <yahoo.com@groups.io target=_blank>[email protected]> wrote:

Have you considered a ba lot of radios, possibly?

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On Jul 18, 2024, at 13:03, Richard Patrick <599kr7w@...> wrote:
Greetings;
?
I bought a UV-25 from an Ebay store, and the radios receiver was Insensitive, it receives poorly.? ?
?
After complaining, the Ebay seller sent me another radio.? ?It turns out that both radios receivers are insensitive.??
?
Using a TinyVNA's signal generator, through a switched step attenuator, the full quieting receive level is approximately -90dBm on 146, 440 MHz + WX channels.? ? This level equates to approx. 6uV, or S6.? ? ?VNA's signal generator sends a quiet carrier, no modulation.
?
Using the same testing method on my other handy talkies, I achieve full quieting at -115 to -120 dBm.? ? ? ? ? Note:? I used my Rigol Spec Analyzer to verify that my test signals are accurate +/- 1dB.??
?
Searching Google and Youtube for help- I find Zilch.? ?Could there an option that I don't understand the meaning of that could be set wrong?? ? ?Any help is much appreciated.
?
Thanks in Advance.
--
73,
Ricky? ?
Ammon, ID


John T. Blair
 

Do you have your squelch open?
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On 7/18/24 10:52, Richard Patrick via groups.io wrote:
Greetings;
I bought a UV-25 from an Ebay store, and the radios receiver was Insensitive, it receives poorly.? ?
...

Buying from such a source is ill-advised. As I understand it, Baofeng has good QC, and radios that don't pass the final test get onto a shrink-wrapped pallet and auctioned to the highest bidder,? rather than repaired to specifications. Those are the radios that are sold on eBay, which explains why you got a second one as a replacement.

Choose a vendor who buys the radios that pass QC, such as ... it's worth the money.


 

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Does Amazon tend to have better radios?

73 John AF5CC

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---- On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 14:59:30 -0500 Tony Ross <ynotssor@...> wrote ---

On 7/18/24 10:52, Richard Patrick via groups.io wrote:
Greetings;
I bought a UV-25 from an Ebay store, and the radios receiver was Insensitive, it receives poorly.? ?
...

Buying from such a source is ill-advised. As I understand it, Baofeng has good QC, and radios that don't pass the final test get onto a shrink-wrapped pallet and auctioned to the highest bidder,? rather than repaired to specifications. Those are the radios that are sold on eBay, which explains why you got a second one as a replacement.

Choose a vendor who buys the radios that pass QC, such as ... it's worth the money.





 

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On 7/18/24 13:02, John Geiger AF5CC via groups.io wrote:
Does Amazon tend to have better radios?

I don't know.


 

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At least with Amazon it is an easy return, at least if you are a Prime member.

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---- On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 15:07:30 -0500 Tony Ross <ynotssor@...> wrote ---

On 7/18/24 13:02, John Geiger AF5CC via groups.io wrote:
Does Amazon tend to have better radios?

I don't know.





 

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Hello Ricky,

Baofengs since they are built to a price (low price) do not perform like others in the marketplace. You get what you pay for. It is well known that Baofengs are unsensitive, unselective and their transmitters are dirty as their harmonics are way too high.

Because of this, they are totally banned in some countries and here in Australia, amateurs are the only people who are allowed to use them, since we are allowed to design and build our own radios.

If you want a radio that should perform to spec, spend a few more dollars and buy a more reputable brand.


Regards,

Doug VK2XLJ


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Richard Patrick <599kr7w@...>
Sent: Friday, 19 July 2024 3:52 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [Baofeng] UV-25... Need some help
?
Greetings;
?
I bought a UV-25 from an Ebay store, and the radios receiver was Insensitive, it receives poorly.? ?
?
After complaining, the Ebay seller sent me another radio.? ?It turns out that both radios receivers are insensitive.??
?
Using a TinyVNA's signal generator, through a switched step attenuator, the full quieting receive level is approximately -90dBm on 146, 440 MHz + WX channels.? ? This level equates to approx. 6uV, or S6.? ? ?VNA's signal generator sends a quiet carrier, no modulation.
?
Using the same testing method on my other handy talkies, I achieve full quieting at -115 to -120 dBm.? ? ? ? ? Note:? I used my Rigol Spec Analyzer to verify that my test signals are accurate +/- 1dB.??
?
Searching Google and Youtube for help- I find Zilch.? ?Could there an option that I don't understand the meaning of that could be set wrong?? ? ?Any help is much appreciated.
?
Thanks in Advance.
--
73,
Ricky? ?
Ammon, ID


 

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I have had a couple of Baofengs which were plenty sensitive, in that they hear the FM satellites as well as any other radio I have had.

In any model there will be some failures. But that doesn't mean the whole line is bad

73 John AF5CC?


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---- On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 18:58:10 -0500 vk2xlj@... wrote ----

Hello Ricky,

Baofengs since they are built to a price (low price) do not perform like others in the marketplace. You get what you pay for. It is well known that Baofengs are unsensitive, unselective and their transmitters are dirty as their harmonics are way too high.

Because of this, they are totally banned in some countries and here in Australia, amateurs are the only people who are allowed to use them, since we are allowed to design and build our own radios.

If you want a radio that should perform to spec, spend a few more dollars and buy a more reputable brand.


Regards,

Doug VK2XLJ


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Richard Patrick <599kr7w@...>
Sent: Friday, 19 July 2024 3:52 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [Baofeng] UV-25... Need some help
?
Greetings;
?
I bought a UV-25 from an Ebay store, and the radios receiver was Insensitive, it receives poorly.? ?
?
After complaining, the Ebay seller sent me another radio.? ?It turns out that both radios receivers are insensitive.??
?
Using a TinyVNA's signal generator, through a switched step attenuator, the full quieting receive level is approximately -90dBm on 146, 440 MHz + WX channels.? ? This level equates to approx. 6uV, or S6.? ? ?VNA's signal generator sends a quiet carrier, no modulation.
?
Using the same testing method on my other handy talkies, I achieve full quieting at -115 to -120 dBm.? ? ? ? ? Note:? I used my Rigol Spec Analyzer to verify that my test signals are accurate +/- 1dB.??
?
Searching Google and Youtube for help- I find Zilch.? ?Could there an option that I don't understand the meaning of that could be set wrong?? ? ?Any help is much appreciated.
?
Thanks in Advance.
--
73,
Ricky? ?
Ammon, ID



 

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I think Doug just misspelled "selective" wrt UV5R variants.

On 7/18/24 17:39, John Geiger AF5CC via groups.io wrote:

I have had a couple of Baofengs which were plenty sensitive, in that they hear the FM satellites as well as any other radio I have had.

In any model there will be some failures. But that doesn't mean the whole line is bad

73 John AF5CC?


Sent using Zoho Mail



---- On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 18:58:10 -0500 vk2xlj@... wrote ----

Hello Ricky,

Baofengs since they are built to a price (low price) do not perform like others in the marketplace. You get what you pay for. It is well known that Baofengs are unsensitive, unselective and their transmitters are dirty as their harmonics are way too high.

Because of this, they are totally banned in some countries and here in Australia, amateurs are the only people who are allowed to use them, since we are allowed to design and build our own radios.

If you want a radio that should perform to spec, spend a few more dollars and buy a more reputable brand.


Regards,

Doug VK2XLJ


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Richard Patrick <599kr7w@...>
Sent: Friday, 19 July 2024 3:52 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [Baofeng] UV-25... Need some help
?
Greetings;
?
I bought a UV-25 from an Ebay store, and the radios receiver was Insensitive, it receives poorly.? ?
?
After complaining, the Ebay seller sent me another radio.? ?It turns out that both radios receivers are insensitive.??
?
Using a TinyVNA's signal generator, through a switched step attenuator, the full quieting receive level is approximately -90dBm on 146, 440 MHz + WX channels.? ? This level equates to approx. 6uV, or S6.? ? ?VNA's signal generator sends a quiet carrier, no modulation.
?
Using the same testing method on my other handy talkies, I achieve full quieting at -115 to -120 dBm.? ? ? ? ? Note:? I used my Rigol Spec Analyzer to verify that my test signals are accurate +/- 1dB.??
?
Searching Google and Youtube for help- I find Zilch.? ?Could there an option that I don't understand the meaning of that could be set wrong?? ? ?Any help is much appreciated.
?
Thanks in Advance.
--
73,
Ricky? ?
Ammon, ID