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Re: Greetings from sunny South Africa - a question:
Hello again and thank you Donald for providing insightful links - appreciated.
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By chance whilst reading an article relating to fox hunting, I became aware of the importance of 'duty cycles' when using low cost I.e. Baofeng commercial (and to a degree home brewed but then there is ability to include adequate margins) equipment. Seems Baofeng have a VERY low rating - see attached.?
Your thoughts, comments?
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Re: Greetings from sunny South Africa
Nigel . . .
On Tue, 07 Jan 2025 09:22:02 -0800, "Nigel ZS6RN" <zs6rn@...> wrote: Currently I do not own a Baofeng radio of any type and interest in the brand is as a result of researching what appears to be rebranded / white label version of the BF888S by a local company (Zartek).I can't say whether these two are the same radios. I own a pair of BF-888 radios. They work, and are programmable with CHIRP of RT Systems software. I don't know the full frequency range they will cover. I bought mine probably a decade or more ago. The box they came in said they were license-free radios, but in the USA at least, that is not true. For them to be license-free, they would have to be FCC type accepted for the Family Radio Service (FRS) band, or work on the much lower frequency citizen's band. I programmed them for ham frequencies. I think they have more power than allowed on the FRS band, and the antenna is removable, which also isn't allowed for FRS. There's a review you should read: It states that though Baofeng says they have an output of <=5 watts, it puts out about 2 watts, which IS less than 5W. If that's an issue for you, then you won't want to buy them. There is also some variation in output power from one unit to another (one put out 1.9 watts, even less). More information, drivers, programming software, and more for the BF-888 can be found here: Apparently, these are also available under other model names: BF-666S, BF-777S Pofung T88, GT1 Retevis H-777 This source does not mention the Zartek radio as a rebranded Baofeng. Here's a Reddit thread discussing the use of BF-888s instead of the Zartek somewhere in Africa, I believe: It covers some legal and possibly other considerations. Depending on where I look for information, these can cover 420-470 MHZ or possibly as low as 400 MHz on the low end. These are pretty inexpensive, so maybe buy one and see if it meets your requirements, then buy more if you need several. As for your license-free band where you live, you might want to find out if the radios used on that band are required to be approved by some regulatory agency in your government. Donald KX8K ---------------------------------------------------- Some ham radio groups you may be interested in: /g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas /g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng /g/CHIRP |
Greetings from sunny South Africa
Hi Baofeng group members :-)
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Just joined this group and a (suspect automated) 'welcome' note from Donald is the prompt for this note.
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Understand attaining 'critical mass' is important and although hoped for information is not available via this group, I will 'stick around' as who knows...
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Currently I do not own a Baofeng radio of any type and interest in the brand is as a result of researching what appears to be rebranded / white label version of the BF888S by a local company (Zartek). My wife and I participate in local parkrun (both as volunteers and going the 5Km) and a pair of Zartek TX8's are used for 'road management' by marshal¡¯s.? The owner of the Zartek's will be unavailable for a few weeks so idea is to obtain a pair of low cost units that operate in the licence free band. After some digging, the BF888S looks as if would be a viable option and aim of joining this group was to try and learn more about Baofeng and specifically the BF888S.
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A key point of the Zartek units is that also used by Gauteng Hamnet (Amateur radio disaster / emergency communications) in the 'go kits' programmed with several 'licence free' channels as well as local repeater and simplex frequencies. I use Alinco and TYT hand helds but am not willing to let parkrun marshal¡¯s use (with licence free channels programmed) as neither are 'low cost' (the Alinco is dual band and dual mode - FM and DMR), hence the search for affordable radios.
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IF the Zartek TX8 is indeed a rebranded BF888S (apart from cosmetics / branding, the only real difference seems to be the aerial: Stubby fixed on TX8 and SMA on Baofeng), then it is a no brainer to purchase (Baofeng about quarter to a tenth of the Zartek price!). The SMA aerial in fact is a bonus as by using a better aerial, we may be able to improve coverage and issue radio's to more marshals.
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Anyway, that my story and fingers crossed that going forward this group will grow and provide a valuable resource (if not already) for owners of Baofeng radios.
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Nigel ZS6RN ex G8DEV l-o-n-g time ago!
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Re: Factory reset DM 1701
Nick . . .
On Wed, 13 Nov 2024 14:46:35 -0800, "Nick_MI7NPN" <himself@...> wrote: I want a radio exactly as it was when taken from the box. I downloaded the user guide and searched it and there's no directions on how to do that. Below I will paste the instructions on how to reset a UV-5R model, which seems to have many similarities with their similar radios. It may or may not work. I doubt if it will ruin things for you, but note that after the factory reset, the menu is in Chinese. You then have to go through a short procedure to set the menu to English again since the Factory setting is Chinese menus. If you try this, you do so at your own risk, of course. But you probably don't have a fortune invested in one of these. My UV-5R and my two BF-888 radios were pretty inexpensive. Let us know if you are able to reset it, and how you ended up doing it. Donald KX8K ============================================ To perform a FULL Reset 1.Turn on the radio and press the MENU button. 2.Press the UP and DOWN arrow key to select RESET (Menu Item 40). 3.Press MENU to choose RESET. 4.Press the DOWN arrow key to choose ALL. 5.Press MENU. The radio will display SOURCE? 6.Press MENU to confirm. The radio will display WAIT... for a few seconds, then beep twice to confirm reset is complete. 7.The radio will revert to Chinese language mode. Reset is complete. To set language from Chinese to English 1.Press MENU. 2.Press the UP and DOWN arrow key to select VOICE (Menu Item 14). 3.Press MENU to choose VOICE. 4.Press the DOWN arrow key to choose ENG. 5.Press MENU to choose ENG. ---------------------------------------------------------------- There's no place like 192.168.0.1 ---------------------------------------------------------------- Some ham radio groups you may be interested in: /g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas /g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng |
Re: Charging from 12V
I have one of these too, and it works well, produces around 7.4 VDC at the terminals that connect to the transceiver when the input is 12 VDC. The only problem is with the label: the label states "Name: Li-ion Battery Model BL-5 Capacity 1800mAh Voltage: 12V."
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But there is no battery in the unit and the difference in weight between this unit and a battery from one of the Baofengs ought to be a giveaway, but maybe not to someone new to all this. 73, Maynard W6PAP On 11/5/24 20:01, Walt WA7SDY via groups.io wrote:
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Re: Charging from 12V
A lot of interesting thoughts and suggestions. One of the issues is the
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varying supply voltages. In my truck and RV, I have 100Ah LifePo4 batteries running all the comm gear. With the chargers on line, the system voltage may run around 13.8-14.4 volts. Most ham equipment seems to tolerate 12-15V without too much issue. The oddball devices, like the weather radio, handheld chargers, etc, that want to run from 5V, 6V, 9V, 10V, etc, don't seem to be as tolerable and want whatever the supplied wall warts provide with little variation. I think what I will be doing is just build some more line lump cables with PowerPoles on one end, the little buck converters in the middle and the coaxial power connectors on the other end and label them as adjusted for the needed voltages. Thanks everyone. Michael WA7SKG Donald Hellen wrote on 11/8/24 5:00 PM: Did any of the other ideas sound plausible or do you think you're |
Re: Charging from 12V
Did any of the other ideas sound plausible or do you think you're
better off just using the adapter you have and play it safe? Donald KX8K ---------------------------------------------------------------- There's no place like 192.168.0.1 ---------------------------------------------------------------- Some ham radio groups you may be interested in: /g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas /g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng |
Re: Charging from 12V
I didn't really mean to sound harsh. It's just that I'm looking for a
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specific answer to a specific problem and so many people feel a need to answer with something that has nothing to do with the question posed. That just wastes everybody's time. The topic was concerning charging the radio from 12V. Walt's answer had zero to do with charging the radio battery, but using a battery eliminator to power the radio. Apples and wagon wheels. Sure, his information may have been useful to somebody, but it had nothing to do with my question. I do not feel my answer was in any way insulting or berating, but, I am sorry, I find it hard to be grateful for answers that have nothing to do with the question presented and waste my time. Michael WA7SKG Donald Hellen wrote on 11/8/24 6:17 AM: On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 01:31:16 +0200, "Costin R" |
Re: Chirp and the NA-6K?
The Baofeng web site states that they work in cooperation with Chirp but I see no evidence of that at all. In fact, I see Baofeng radios sold by Radioddity that are supported by Chirp, but those same radios under the Baofeng brand are not. One example is the UV-5RX3. Try to program 220 freqs into this radio using the Baofeng Chirp setting and you'll brick the radio. The same radio, using a Radioddity setting can be made to work. True, using the Baofeng software to program the NA-6K would be easier than the radio's key pad, but still, I'm not going to spend HOURS programming this radio either way! The limited advantages of this radio over that of the UV-5R are just not worth it. Dennis Starks Military-Radio-Guy KB?SFP
On Friday, November 8, 2024 at 09:37:35 AM CST, Donald Hellen <donhellen@...> wrote:
On Thu, 07 Nov 2024 16:02:23 -0800, "Dennis via groups.io" <spike.dennis@...> wrote: >I did download the Baofeng software. It does work. But it's horrible! You must input every cell's information manually. No copy/paste capability, no importing of data. Imagine programming 999 channels one at a time! No thanks. I would still think that entering the information in their program would be easier than entering the same information from the front panel of the radio. Still, though, I would think that the company behind the radio would offer a much better program to work with the radio. Donald KX8K ---------------------------------------------------------------- There's no place like 192.168.0.1 ---------------------------------------------------------------- Some ham radio groups you may be interested in: /g/ICOM? /g/Ham-Antennas /g/HamRadioHelp? ? /g/Baofeng |
Re: Baofeng UV-5R and APRSdroid Settings
I know I'm replying to an old post, but how did it go?
I have all the equipment, and have most of the settings configured on the phone. I'm using a Baofeng uv82 since the 5 watts of the uv5r just aren't reaching anyone. I at least have aprsdroid triggering the radio to transmit, and the radio receives, but it's not being decoded in the app for some reason. I've been very frustrated with the conflicting information, or the lack of info all together. Any help you could offer would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Chirp and the NA-6K?
On Thu, 07 Nov 2024 16:02:23 -0800, "Dennis via groups.io"
<spike.dennis@...> wrote: I did download the Baofeng software. It does work. But it's horrible! You must input every cell's information manually. No copy/paste capability, no importing of data. Imagine programming 999 channels one at a time! No thanks.I would still think that entering the information in their program would be easier than entering the same information from the front panel of the radio. Still, though, I would think that the company behind the radio would offer a much better program to work with the radio. Donald KX8K ---------------------------------------------------------------- There's no place like 192.168.0.1 ---------------------------------------------------------------- Some ham radio groups you may be interested in: /g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas /g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng |
Re: Charging from 12V
On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 01:31:16 +0200, "Costin R"
<electronice.az@...> wrote: Your answer seems a bit harsh to me.I have to agree here. Walt was just offering another way of doing things. I wanted to respond and remind members here to be grateful when people try to help, even if they don't really reply directly to the original question. If a member steps over the line and insults or berates another member, we'll either put that member on moderation or remove him or her from the group. We do try to allow for free speech as long as it doesn't adversely affect others. Donald KX8K group owner/moderator ---------------------------------------------------------------- There's no place like 192.168.0.1 ---------------------------------------------------------------- Some ham radio groups you may be interested in: /g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas /g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng |
Re: Charging from 12V
On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 01:31:16 +0200, "Costin R"
<electronice.az@...> wrote: I don't think it will exceed 150mA, so I would install a 7810 stabilizer (10V/1A) in the cigarette lighter socket on the wire. At such a low current, it does not need a cooler. On the input and output, mount a 100nF/50V capacitor in front of the negative terminal.I think he's not wanting to use the cigarette lighter socket, but the same would apply to the line from 12V PowerPole connectors to the charger. Apparently, this could be put in a small box, or maybe built into the charger base? Donald KX8K ---------------------------------------------------------------- There's no place like 192.168.0.1 ---------------------------------------------------------------- Some ham radio groups you may be interested in: /g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas /g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng |
Re: Charging from 12V
On Thu, 07 Nov 2024 13:59:49 -0800, "billsf9c via groups.io"
<OOWONBS@...> wrote: 2 diodes would drop ~1.4 v. 1N400x series just handles an amp but there is a 3A version. Axial lead. Fit inside or in the cord line itself.or make a short adaptor.Michael, Are you up to making a modification such as this? If so, I would suggest adding the diodes in the +12V line coming from the car's 12V system. That way you leave the charger unmodified, and your AC adapter also will still work as designed. My approach would be to use the 12V to 10V adapters you have now and just add PowerPoles to the wiring. I don't know how well Baofeng designed the charger so we don't know how much of a variance in voltage that the circuit allows for it to still run within both safe limits and also still charge the battery. If you want to modify the charger or adapter, then you can consider the following but realize that you may run the risk of damaging your charger or possible fire. If you do any modification, I would extensively test the mod out without leaving it connected when you aren't present to validate that it will be OK. With the previous caveat, here's what I might do if it were mine and I wanted to do what you would like to do with the charger . . . I would use 3, 4, or even 5 diodes though since the car will have 13.8V when the engine's battery charging system is operating. Silicon diodes have about a 0.7V drop across them in a circuit. Three would drop about 2.1V and four would drop about 2.8V, while 5 would drop 3.5V. If your drop in charger has voltage regulation and isn't just a trickle charger, a little higher than the 10V spec should be fine. Too low and it just won't charge. Too high and you may run the risk of a fire, though I would expect the charging circuit to regulate the voltage somewhat. Four diodes would then provide about 11 volts. A fifth would provide 10.3 volts, which would be a safer bet, but it probably won't charge if the ignition is off because 12.6V (battery voltage without car running) minus the 3.5V drop of 5 diodes leaves you with only 9.1 volts, probably too low to charge your HT when the car isn't running. I feel 5 diodes would be safer, as long as the HT takes a charge with 5 in the +12V supply line. Use regular silicon diodes (not the Schottky type, which has a lower voltage drop) that can handle double the current requirement of the power adapter for a safety margin. If your adapter is rated at 1.5A, use 3A or better diodes. If you can get a schematic of the charger, it might tell you more about how large of a variance in voltage it can deal with. You can "fold" the diodes end over end as long as you don't short any wiring, using spaghetti tubing to cover exposed wires and then some heat shrink tubing over everything to make it a neat package. You could breadboard the setup and run it on a 13.8V DC supply and see if it gets hot, and if it charges the HT correctly. If things get hot on an open breadboard setup, they would only get hotter if they were packed together tightly with shrink wrap tuning. You may feel there's too much to risk here and just use the 10V adapters you have, but wire the adapter with PowerPoles instead of a cigarette lighter plug. Donald KX8K ---------------------------------------------------------------- There's no place like 192.168.0.1 ---------------------------------------------------------------- Some ham radio groups you may be interested in: /g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas /g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng |
Chirp and the NA-6K?
Anybody have any success using Chirp with the new Baofeng NA-6K?
I was just gifted one. Nice looking little radio but I learned long ago that if you cant program it with Chirp, I dont want it.
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I did download the Baofeng software. It does work. But it's horrible! You must input every cell's information manually. No copy/paste capability, no importing of data. Imagine programming 999 channels one at a time! No thanks.
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I have a number of the UV-5 variants and I'm happy with them. This new NA-6k may just be re-gifted!
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Re: Charging from 12V
Michel and the group, Michel and the group, I think there is some tolerance regarding the maximum voltage there. If you want to do a good job, you can install diodes in the line, as Bill suggests, but the battery voltage can reach up to 14.4V. I didn't measure the charging current, but anyway I don't think it will exceed 150mA, so I would install a (10V/1A) in the cigarette lighter socket on the wire. At such a low current, it does not need a cooler. On the input and output, mount a 100nF/50V capacitor in front of the negative terminal. Regarding Walt's suggestion... he probably understood that you want to feed the car's installation. He wanted to help with an advice, so I would appreciate the intention. Your answer seems a bit harsh to me. And that adapter that replaces the battery is really great. I use it occasionally. And I think that here () you need such an adapter. 73! Costin, YO8RCD? ?n joi, 7 nov. 2024 la 23:59, billsf9c via <OOWONBS=[email protected]> a scris:
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Re: Charging from 12V
Walt,
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Your answer has absolutely nothing to do with my question. My question concerns running a Baofeng drop in desk charger from 12V. I see no correlation whatsoever between your answer and my question. Michael WA7SKG Walt WA7SDY via groups.io wrote on 11/5/24 8:01 PM: Michael, |
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