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Re: BF-F8HP

 

All. Ok thanks...? I guess it is the way it is.

Thanks

Skip


-----Original Message-----
From: Clyde Lambert <clyde.lambert@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, May 7, 2022 3:19 pm
Subject: Re: [Baofeng] BF-F8HP

I can tell you, you will NOT find a schematic.
I have tried to abtain one to repair a friends radio.
The power level and frequency range is software Controlled. You can not adjust the frequencies or power internally.
No, the?BF-F8HP can not be adjusted to cover any of the HF, VHF or UHF air bands.
Clyde Lambert KC7BJE?


Re: BF-F8HP

Clyde Lambert
 

I can tell you, you will NOT find a schematic.
I have tried to abtain one to repair a friends radio.
The power level and frequency range is software Controlled. You can not adjust the frequencies or power internally.
No, the?BF-F8HP can not be adjusted to cover any of the HF, VHF or UHF air bands.
Clyde Lambert KC7BJE?


Re: BF-F8HP

 

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Ok. Makes sense. But maybe a schematic?

Skip





On May 7, 2022, at 11:26, Rodney kraft via groups.io <kc7cjo@...> wrote:

?To my knowledge the service manual is not available to the public. They don¡¯t expect anyone to try to repair cheap radios and compared to the big name brands the are VERY cheap! ?They work great, but NIT expensive.?

I¡¯ve ask about Service Manuals and all I get back is that they are unavailable.?

Sorry!


On May 7, 2022, at 07:04, Skip via groups.io <wb4yvo@...> wrote:

?A couple of questions? Does anyone have a service manual?? Need to adjust power output lower in bands..

Also... Anyway to make this RX on the AM airband

Skip


Re: BF-F8HP

 

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To my knowledge the service manual is not available to the public. They don¡¯t expect anyone to try to repair cheap radios and compared to the big name brands the are VERY cheap! ?They work great, but NIT expensive.?

I¡¯ve ask about Service Manuals and all I get back is that they are unavailable.?

Sorry!


On May 7, 2022, at 07:04, Skip via groups.io <wb4yvo@...> wrote:

?A couple of questions? Does anyone have a service manual?? Need to adjust power output lower in bands..

Also... Anyway to make this RX on the AM airband

Skip


BF-F8HP

 

A couple of questions? Does anyone have a service manual?? Need to adjust power output lower in bands..

Also... Anyway to make this RX on the AM airband

Skip


Re: Baofeng Newbie Question

 

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Hello Chuck,

Read all about it here.....




Regards,

Doug VK2XLJ


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of W9BIK <w9bik@...>
Sent: Wednesday, 4 May 2022 12:17 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [Baofeng] Baofeng Newbie Question
?
I purchased a UV-82 at a Hamfest this past weekend and I have a question about programming it with Chirp running on my relatively new Dell laptop using Windows 11. Are there any "gotcha's" I should be aware of? I ordered the programming cable, but do I need any special drivers to recognize the HT?

Chuck
W9BIK?


Re: Baofeng Newbie Question

 

Chuck . . .

On Tue, 03 May 2022 07:17:16 -0700, "W9BIK" <w9bik@...> wrote:

Are there any "gotcha's" I should be aware of? I ordered the programming cable, but do I need any special drivers to recognize the HT?
You can read the CHIRP documentation (it is in the files section of the CHIRP
group or on the CHIRP website). The thing that may not be intuitive is that you
first have to download the memory file from the radio so CHIRP knows how to
format the data. Once you download it, you can enter frequencies, offsets, etc.

There's a tab for Repeaterbook data and you can view the results of a search by
zip code, I think, and copy and paste what you wish from that tab to the radio's
memory tab. When you're done, upload it. That's basically it.

Keep the volume control full open or the data may not transfer.

Donald KX8K



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Some ham radio groups you may be interested in:
/g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas
/g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng
/g/CHIRP


Baofeng Newbie Question

 

I purchased a UV-82 at a Hamfest this past weekend and I have a question about programming it with Chirp running on my relatively new Dell laptop using Windows 11. Are there any "gotcha's" I should be aware of? I ordered the programming cable, but do I need any special drivers to recognize the HT?

Chuck
W9BIK?


Re: Antennas

 

Donald,

It was an antenna available from either eBay or Amazon for $3.79.? It was better than the baseline antenna, but not so good that your front end was wiped out by noise.

I doubt it is still available at that price.? Unfortunately, that means that you would need to buy a bunch of "cheap" antennae and use the one that is most appropriate.

This $3.79 special was part of the FAQ about 3 to 5 years ago.? It is hard to keep track of time with COVID.

Bill


-----Original Message-----
From: Donald Hellen <donhellen@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, Feb 2, 2022 5:02 am
Subject: Re: [Baofeng] Antennas

Bill . . .

On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 20:44:50 -0500, "Bill Storey via groups.io"
<WTStorey=[email protected]> wrote:

>
>I followed the advice in the UV5R faq at Miklor.com, and bought what was known as the $3.79 special, and I never looked back.? The antenna helps provide some front end filtering, which the radio really needs.? Later versions of the radio, especially from Baofeng Tech have gotten better, but the basic 5R works better with a less capable antenna.


Can you give us a link to the $3.79 special, please? I went to the site and
found the UV-5R FAQ but not the $3.79 special. Can you link to that, please?

I remember using a 1/4 wave ground plane 2M antenna made out of an SO-239
connector with 19" legs attached to the 4 holes with screws and nuts, and
another 19" piece of wire soldered to the center connector. The socket faces
downward and you use a flexible thin piece of coax. If you have the SO-239
socket in your junk box, and some copper wire like 14 gauge that comes out of
Romex house wiring, it's not going to cost you any additional money.




Donald KX8K



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Some ham radio groups you may be interested in:
/g/ICOM ? /g/Ham-Antennas
/g/HamRadioHelp ? /g/Baofeng
/g/CHIRP






Re: Antennas

 

Bill . . .

On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 20:44:50 -0500, "Bill Storey via groups.io"
<WTStorey@...> wrote:


I followed the advice in the UV5R faq at Miklor.com, and bought what was known as the $3.79 special, and I never looked back. The antenna helps provide some front end filtering, which the radio really needs. Later versions of the radio, especially from Baofeng Tech have gotten better, but the basic 5R works better with a less capable antenna.
Can you give us a link to the $3.79 special, please? I went to the site and
found the UV-5R FAQ but not the $3.79 special. Can you link to that, please?

I remember using a 1/4 wave ground plane 2M antenna made out of an SO-239
connector with 19" legs attached to the 4 holes with screws and nuts, and
another 19" piece of wire soldered to the center connector. The socket faces
downward and you use a flexible thin piece of coax. If you have the SO-239
socket in your junk box, and some copper wire like 14 gauge that comes out of
Romex house wiring, it's not going to cost you any additional money.




Donald KX8K



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Some ham radio groups you may be interested in:
/g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas
/g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng
/g/CHIRP


Re: Antennas

 

One thing I have not seen discussed in this thread is the question as to whether having a ¡°better¡± antenna really helps with the Baofeng, at least with the original UV-5R. The radio has the selectivity of a Barn Door, and is very sensitive to interference. For other radios, including my VX8-DR, I often use a generic 1/4 wave, which improves the radios sensitivity, and ability to hit repeaters on the other side of a ridge near me. Adding that same antenna to the Baofeng causes local noise, such as my LED light fixtures to overpower real signals.

I followed the advice in the UV5R faq at Miklor.com, and bought what was known as the $3.79 special, and I never looked back. The antenna helps provide some front end filtering, which the radio really needs. Later versions of the radio, especially from Baofeng Tech have gotten better, but the basic 5R works better with a less capable antenna.

I highly recommend you use an SMA to BNC connector on the radio, and buy BNC antennae. In your car, you can get a mag mount with a BNC connector, and try various antenna types on the mag mount. The BNC connector has a longer life than the SMA connector built into the radio, and is replaceable when it wears out. It also facilitates removal of your walk around antenna, and connection to your car.

I also recommend looking at Miklor.com for a useful FAQ, on all things BAOFENG.

Bill (AB1LZ)

Would you believe? Sent from my shoe phone's big brother and still no keyboard. Please excuse auto connections caused by typhoons.


Re: Antennas

 

Thanks V700. I'll check their site more focused, now. All clues are helpful. Forgotten things are beginning to bubble to the surface.?

I like an organized approach to most anything, but find myself looking at eVerything at once, on top of... "life." I am just too curious. All too late last night I was looking at the math for the extra license. IT, as far as I got, was not difficult. I sort of expect that to change, LOL ! I had actually expected it to slap me in the face and be totally foreign. I have skipped lower grades on other tests, and wanted to bracket myself and see what might be realistic to attempt, and plan thusly. But I cannot really believe Extra is in the near term cards. Math is just one part.

I have not attempted to program the Baofeng (BF-X3plus.) It was due the 26th of Jan, but arrived to sit on my porch 2 weeks early. I had ordered black but got orange. The vendor has offered an as yet undetermined discount. If I return it, I pay the USPS. It seems unfair for his error. I must attend to this decision within a couple weeks.

Scan pauses on a few frequencies, but I get no tones or audio or noise. An antenna might assist, esp directional, to pick up any transmission. I'm just using the ~20" tape antenna, and indoors at that. (Stucco. ?)

BillSF9c


Re: Antennas

 

I found some longer, frequency trimmed antennas at Battery Junction. Similar to the Nagoya. some cover the MURS, some other sections of VHV/UHF, air band, etc.
You can get ground plane adaptors on ebay to convert a handheld, or mobile antenna to a base antenna, with three radials for under $10.


Re: Antennas

 

I found some longer, frequency trimmed antennas at Battery Junction. Similar to the Nagoya. some cover the MURS, some other sections of VHV/UHF, air band, etc.
You can get ground plane adaptors on ebay to convert a handheld, or mobile antenna to a base antenna, with three radials for under $10.


Re: Antennas

 

320A Antenna for Baofeng & Btech

Thanks Don,
Baofeng being for some, an entryway, somewhat implies some new folks and some basics, at times. I'm an example.

Below is what an hour or two searching found for HT antennas, based on comments about 2 brand and cost, Nagoya & Diamond, though at $35-40 for the HT, Diamond does have units equaling that range, versus only 3x the cost of the HT. (Better a cheap car w good tires, than the opposite.) But the point is very well taken. No $500 @ tires on a VW Bug.?Baby steps, learn as I go.?
... Just noting, many of these antennas do not seem to support Xmit on 220/(GSM?)
(GSM to me would be solely for an emergency assist.) The 320A is a only couple inches longer than others, at 17.7" but the same gain is reported.

Excerpt;
"Genuine Nagoya NA-320A
The NA-320A is a brand new [Aug 2016] antenna from Nagoya. It is based on the NA-771, but with support for the 1.25M (220MHz amateur band). A wider receiving range is supported as well. (RX: 118 ~ 960 MHz).?
?
The Nagoya NA-320A Tri Band High Gain Antenna is for transmitting on VHF, 1.25M, and UHF frequencies. It is 1/4 Wave at 144MHz, 1/2 Wave at 220MHz and 5/8 Wave at 440MHz."
?
https://www.amazon.com/Nagoya-NA-320A-2M-1-25M-70CM-144-220-440Mhz-BTECH/dp/B01K10B9XK
?
Cost, ~$20, Amazon.

Will check out the Comet and such for mobile, thx again.. Directionals, last, but already tripping over them, but perhaps a fun build.

BillSF9c


Re: Antennas

 

Bill . . .

On Fri, 28 Jan 2022 11:22:37 -0800, "billsf9c via groups.io"
<OOWONBS@...> wrote:

I do have the "full kit," which included from stubby to extended tape antennas. I'm interested in vehicle antennas and hand/small pole, holdable, omni and directional antennas to improve reception and sometimes, directionality. As in a foxhunt, directionality can aid in search and rescue.
I can't help with any of these questions but to get the best out of portable,
hand-held use, the genuine Nagoya antenna is probably the best. The knock-offs
are crap and less expensive. It's not directional, though.

I got one of the actual genuine Nagoyas and it works well, all things
considered. My QTH is not far from the closest repeater but I can only maintain
contact in certain spots on my city lot. With a stubby duckie antenna, I doubt
I'd even open the repeater squelch.

For mobile use, I use the Comet triband antenna on a trunk lid mount to have
some gain on 2M and 440 and a useful antenna on 6M. You can hook up a handheld
HT to any antenna. Just make sure it's efficient since you only have a few watts
to use and every bit of that is precious.

You can also build or buy small amplifiers and some have receiving preamplifiers
to essentially make it the equivalent of a 25 or 50 watt mobile radio, but you
have to be close to a source of power other than the battery in the HT.

As for directional antennas for fox-hunts, any small Yagi or quad antenna should
work. A 3-element would give you a decent front to back ratio. You can web
search for those (yagi, fox, hunt).


Donald KX8K



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Some ham radio groups you may be interested in:
/g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas
/g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng
/g/CHIRP


Re: Antennas

 

>?If antennas, it wouldn't matter which brand or model of handheld radio you have.
If it's about your Baofeng specifically, and not about antennas that would work?on any handheld, then the ham-antennas group would be best.

Donald KX8K

Well, a catch 22, almost.
I.E., It's about my Lamborginni Diablo specifically, but what tire to use for extended and/or specific(directional) use. But which tires some other sports car could use, also -

The antenna group is V busy, embroiled in deeper interesting aspects. Most use more power, but there's no "handheld portable/low pwr antennas" group.

Maybe if I change the question -

Which antennas, (sale or homebrew,) have folks used w their BaoFengs, for?
1) vehicle mobile,?
2) directional (esp for potential search & rescue,) or?
3) temporary bivoac, say, an overnight campout? Maybe redeploy a vehicle's whip atop a pole, perhaps with a few minor radials. Dual use of a vehicle's whip for economy.

Side Note; In CB days I opted for a fairly stiff 4ft semi-flexible stick, in an impact knock-down ball joint, versus a 9 ft whip that was never vertical past parking lot speeds. Does anyone run these w a vehicle roof antenna?

It's antennas, but only for our Baofeng frequencies and low power levels. I'll divert w apologies, if I have not picked up sufficiently on a hint, lol.

BillSF9c


Re: Antennas

 

Bill . . .

On Fri, 28 Jan 2022 11:22:37 -0800, "billsf9c via groups.io"
<OOWONBS@...> wrote:

Is this or the antenna group more appropriate, since we be are talking Baofeng?
It depends on whether your focus is going to be on antennas.

If antennas, it wouldn't matter which brand or model of handheld radio you have.
If it's about your Baofeng specifically, and not about antennas that would work
on any handheld, then the ham-antennas group would be best.

Donald KX8K



----------------------------------------------------
Some ham radio groups you may be interested in:
/g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas
/g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng
/g/CHIRP


Antennas

 

I'm in the antenna group, reading Files.

I do have the "full kit," which included from stubby to extended tape antennas. I'm interested in vehicle antennas and hand/small pole, holdable, omni and directional antennas to improve reception and sometimes, directionality. As in a foxhunt, directionality can aid in search and rescue.

Is this or the antenna group more appropriate, since we be are talking Baofeng?

Thx, 73s -

BillSF9c


Re: UV-5R vs UV-5R+

 

That would be best. I'd like to know for sure that the batteries aren't interchangeable. It would be great if they used the same battery for many models.?

Donald KX8K?

On January 25, 2022 6:57:00 AM "Doug J" <vk2xlj@...> wrote:

Hello Donald,

I was hoping that someone in the group might own both radios and so could give the best appraisal. There is nothing like practical experience.



Regards,

Doug VK2XLJ


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Donald Hellen <donhellen@...>
Sent: Tuesday, 25 January 2022 9:06 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Baofeng] UV-5R vs UV-5R+
?
On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 01:48:15 +0000, "Doug J" <vk2xlj@...> wrote:

> I wasn't after a general history, I was after a comparison between two specific models.

It looked to me that the history explained the variants. It appears that
paragraph 2 and 3 explain the + is just a cosmetic variant as far as what it
does but the battery may not be interchangeable with the non plus model.

I would suggest contacting either Baofeng or Baofeng Tech if you want to know
more.

Donald KX8K



----------------------------------------------------
Some ham radio groups you may be interested in:
/g/ICOM?? /g/Ham-Antennas
/g/HamRadioHelp??? /g/Baofeng
/g/CHIRP?