That would be best. I'd like to know for sure that the batteries aren't interchangeable. It would be great if they used the same battery for many models.?
Donald KX8K?
On January 25, 2022 6:57:00 AM "Doug J" <vk2xlj@...> wrote:
Hello Donald,
I was hoping that someone in the group might own both radios and so could give the best appraisal. There is nothing like practical experience.
On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 01:48:15 +0000, "Doug J" <vk2xlj@...> wrote:
> I wasn't after a general history, I was after a comparison between two specific models.
It looked to me that the history explained the variants. It appears that
paragraph 2 and 3 explain the + is just a cosmetic variant as far as what it
does but the battery may not be interchangeable with the non plus model.
I would suggest contacting either Baofeng or Baofeng Tech if you want to know
more.
Donald KX8K
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Some ham radio groups you may be interested in:
/g/ICOM??
/g/Ham-Antennas
/g/HamRadioHelp???
/g/Baofeng
/g/CHIRP?
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Hello Donald,
I was hoping that someone in the group might own both radios and so could give the best appraisal. There is nothing like practical experience.
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 01:48:15 +0000, "Doug J" <vk2xlj@...> wrote:
> I wasn't after a general history, I was after a comparison between two specific models.
It looked to me that the history explained the variants. It appears that
paragraph 2 and 3 explain the + is just a cosmetic variant as far as what it
does but the battery may not be interchangeable with the non plus model.
I would suggest contacting either Baofeng or Baofeng Tech if you want to know
more.
Donald KX8K
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Some ham radio groups you may be interested in:
/g/ICOM??
/g/Ham-Antennas
/g/HamRadioHelp???
/g/Baofeng
/g/CHIRP?
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 01:48:15 +0000, "Doug J" <vk2xlj@...> wrote: I wasn't after a general history, I was after a comparison between two specific models. It looked to me that the history explained the variants. It appears that paragraph 2 and 3 explain the + is just a cosmetic variant as far as what it does but the battery may not be interchangeable with the non plus model. I would suggest contacting either Baofeng or Baofeng Tech if you want to know more. Donald KX8K ---------------------------------------------------- Some ham radio groups you may be interested in: /g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas/g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng/g/CHIRP
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 01:48:15 +0000, "Doug J" <vk2xlj@...> wrote: BaofengTech is an American dealer, not the manufacturer. Yes, sorry about that. ---------------------------------------------------- Some ham radio groups you may be interested in: /g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas/g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng/g/CHIRP
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BaofengTech is an American dealer, not the manufacturer.
It still didn't answer my question. I wasn't after a general history, I was after a comparison between two specific models.
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 01:17:32 +0000, "Doug J" <vk2xlj@...> wrote:
>Can anyone tell me what the difference is between UV-5R vs UV-5R+, apart from minor cosmetic changes to the case.
From the manufacturer:
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BaoFeng UV-5R Radio Background
BaoFeng Introduced the UV-5R Dual Band, Dual Display radio in 2012. Since its
introduction the UV-5R has seen a massive success. The UV-5R has seen 2 major
changes since its launch with the second generation being signified by BFB297
Firmware (2nd Gen.) in early 2013 and the N5R firmware tweak in August of 2014.
There are several cosmetic variants of the UV-5R. These variants have no
differences from the UV-5R besides their cosmetic design along with the possible
removal of the ¡®Band Key¡¯ (no longer required in Gen. 2).
Variations include the: UV-5R v2+, UV-5RA, UV-5RE, UV-5R+ (Plus), along with
several other lesser produced variants. Some of these variations may also no
longer work with case specific accessories such as the original UV-5R batteries.
Late in 2013, the UV-5R also included a new variant generation with the inverted
(privacy) display series; with the introduction of the BF-F8+ and its own
cosmetic variants (such as the GT-3 and 997-S).
Finally, in the fall of 2014, the UV-5R saw the introduction to its successor
the 3rd. Generation BF-F8HP.
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The original UV-5R could be set for out-of-band transmit. The FCC put a stop to
that a year or so ago.
Donald KX8K
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Some ham radio groups you may be interested in:
/g/ICOM??
/g/Ham-Antennas
/g/HamRadioHelp???
/g/Baofeng
/g/CHIRP?
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 01:17:32 +0000, "Doug J" <vk2xlj@...> wrote: Can anyone tell me what the difference is between UV-5R vs UV-5R+, apart from minor cosmetic changes to the case. From the manufacturer: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ BaoFeng UV-5R Radio Background BaoFeng Introduced the UV-5R Dual Band, Dual Display radio in 2012. Since its introduction the UV-5R has seen a massive success. The UV-5R has seen 2 major changes since its launch with the second generation being signified by BFB297 Firmware (2nd Gen.) in early 2013 and the N5R firmware tweak in August of 2014. There are several cosmetic variants of the UV-5R. These variants have no differences from the UV-5R besides their cosmetic design along with the possible removal of the ¡®Band Key¡¯ (no longer required in Gen. 2). Variations include the: UV-5R v2+, UV-5RA, UV-5RE, UV-5R+ (Plus), along with several other lesser produced variants. Some of these variations may also no longer work with case specific accessories such as the original UV-5R batteries. Late in 2013, the UV-5R also included a new variant generation with the inverted (privacy) display series; with the introduction of the BF-F8+ and its own cosmetic variants (such as the GT-3 and 997-S). Finally, in the fall of 2014, the UV-5R saw the introduction to its successor the 3rd. Generation BF-F8HP. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The original UV-5R could be set for out-of-band transmit. The FCC put a stop to that a year or so ago. Donald KX8K ---------------------------------------------------- Some ham radio groups you may be interested in: /g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas/g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng/g/CHIRP
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Hello Group,
Can anyone tell me what the difference is between UV-5R vs UV-5R+, apart from minor cosmetic changes to the case.
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onemorep . . . On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 13:09:44 -0800, "onemorep via groups.io" <onemorep@...> wrote: Using Chirp 20220118 the offsets I enter for my repeaters do not program, changes back to OFF. Used Query Data Source and entered manually based off RepeaterBook. First time Baofeng and Chirp user. As Doug mentioned, Baofeng provides their own programming tool, though I used CHIRP to program 3 Baofeng UV-5R's. I think your radio is a FRS/GMRS radio, though, and mine is for the ham bands on 144 and 440 MHz, so what I mention below may not apply. If the radio is locked to only the GMRS frequencies, you won't be able to program AND make it able to transmit on amateur radio frequencies. You MAY be able to program the ham band repeater frequencies but it shouldn't let you transmit on them. The transmit enable should either not be there or it should revert to off. If the radio is a few years old, some Baofengs were able to do this but the FCC came down on them hard and stopped them from offering these illegal radios. I have some 888's which can be made to work on GMRS, FRS, and the 440 MHz ham bands. I'm licensed for the ham bands, so it's not illegal for me to use the 888's on those bands. These were sold as "license-free" radios illegally in the US. Note that if your radio is able to be made to transmit on amateur radio frequencies, as some of the Baofengs were able to do so a year or two ago, it is illegal to do so unless you are licensed. If you do and are found out, the fact that your radio would be set to be able to do that would be additional evidence of the crime. I am not sure what you mean by you entered data manually. There's a feature in CHIRP that lets you look up repeaters within a certain distance. I forget exactly how that looks and what you need to choose since it's been a while, but I was able to copy and paste from the Repeaterbook tab's rows to the main tab that gets uploaded to the radio's rows one by one until I got all that I wanted. Those entries on the repeaterbook tab had all the offsets, PL tones, and more, so I didn't need to enter anything manually. Again, if this is a recent production model for a GMRS (or FRS) radio, it should not be able to work on the ham bands and that is by design. If you want to use CHIRP and need more help with it, join the CHIRP group, too. Donald KX8K ---------------------------------------------------- Some ham radio groups you may be interested in: /g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas/g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng/g/CHIRP
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Hello ??????,
Try using the factory programmer. Links below are from the Baofeng factory site.
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Using Chirp 20220118 the offsets I enter for my repeaters do not program, changes back to OFF. Used Query Data Source and entered manually based off RepeaterBook. ?First time Baofeng and Chirp user. Thanks
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>?I wonder how long the battery lasts at 8 watts with normal conversation?
That had to be 6-8 min / hr, not per 24-30 hrs battery longevity.
BillSF9c
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Charles . . . On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 14:40:18 -0600, Charles Bright, WE?R <pnc1167@...> wrote: Thanks for the info... I have the 8 watt version and as you say, things are quite confusing. The label under the battery says dual band transceiver, but it also shows three frequency ranges, 136-174, 200-260 & 400-520. Guess the 220 is receive only???? It was advertised as triband, but guess I should have known better. I am not sure about the 220 band. It would be great if it's covered for transmit. We have no local 220 repeaters here, unfortunately. I don't know why the 220 band never took off like 2M and 440. Maybe it had to do with what surplus and used business equipment was available years ago. Donald KX8K ---------------------------------------------------- Some ham radio groups you may be interested in: /g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas/g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng/g/CHIRP
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Hi Donald, Thanks for the info...? I have the 8 watt version and as you say, things are quite confusing.? The label under the battery says dual band transceiver, but it also shows three frequency ranges, 136-174, 200-260 & 400-520.? Guess the 220 is receive only????? ? It was advertised as triband, but guess I should have known better. Again, thanks. Charlie, WE?R
On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 5:10 PM Donald Hellen < donhellen@...> wrote: Charles . . .
On Mon, 17 Jan 2022 14:20:00 -0800, Charles Bright, WE?R <pnc1167@...>
wrote:
>It programs fine and works as it should on 2M & 440, but even though the offset is showing in CHIRP, and the display shows the +-, the radio doesn't shift transmit to the offset on 220.? ?Has anyone else run into this problem with the UV-S9?? Solutions?
I read some questions and answers on that radio. One of the answers said the 5W
version covered 220 for transmit, and the 8W version did not (see below). Which
version do you have? (I'm not convinced the 8W doesn't cover 220 MHz though in
any case.)
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Question:
Is this a tri band?
Answer:
The 8 watt version is not tri band. The 5 watt radio is tri band.
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The specs appear to be confusing, though. The Baofeng site says it has 8W
output, so the Q&A above may not be correct in the answer. I think the Amazon
listing had 3 power levels listed, and the official site said it only has 1W and
8W settings for output power.
The Amazon listing is in the Baofeng store and it's a great price if it really
is a tri-band and has an 8W output. I wonder how long the battery lasts at 8
watts with normal conversation?
I'd get it for the 8W output if my UV-5R batteries fit it. I have two extended
life battery packs I bought with mine and the seller credited me for the small
battery that comes with it when I made the purchase.
It's strange that Baofeng's listing on Amazon is different than on their web
site. Maybe the plus and regular (non-plus) versions are different and that's
what's causing the confusion?
Donald KX8K
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Some ham radio groups you may be interested in:
/g/ICOM? ?/g/Ham-Antennas
/g/HamRadioHelp? ? /g/Baofeng
/g/CHIRP?
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Charles . . . On Mon, 17 Jan 2022 14:20:00 -0800, Charles Bright, WE?R <pnc1167@...> wrote: It programs fine and works as it should on 2M & 440, but even though the offset is showing in CHIRP, and the display shows the +-, the radio doesn't shift transmit to the offset on 220. Has anyone else run into this problem with the UV-S9? Solutions? I read some questions and answers on that radio. One of the answers said the 5W version covered 220 for transmit, and the 8W version did not (see below). Which version do you have? (I'm not convinced the 8W doesn't cover 220 MHz though in any case.) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Question: Is this a tri band? Answer: The 8 watt version is not tri band. The 5 watt radio is tri band. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The specs appear to be confusing, though. The Baofeng site says it has 8W output, so the Q&A above may not be correct in the answer. I think the Amazon listing had 3 power levels listed, and the official site said it only has 1W and 8W settings for output power. The Amazon listing is in the Baofeng store and it's a great price if it really is a tri-band and has an 8W output. I wonder how long the battery lasts at 8 watts with normal conversation? I'd get it for the 8W output if my UV-5R batteries fit it. I have two extended life battery packs I bought with mine and the seller credited me for the small battery that comes with it when I made the purchase. It's strange that Baofeng's listing on Amazon is different than on their web site. Maybe the plus and regular (non-plus) versions are different and that's what's causing the confusion? Donald KX8K ---------------------------------------------------- Some ham radio groups you may be interested in: /g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas/g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng/g/CHIRP
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It programs fine and works as it should on 2M & 440, but even though the offset is showing in CHIRP, and the display shows the +-, the radio doesn't shift transmit to the offset on 220. ? Has anyone else run into this problem with the UV-S9?? Solutions?
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Baofeng are good budget radios, but their claims are ridiculous. This one also is so wrong on many fronts.
-The radio claims on the front it is "digital mobile radio" when it is FM and says so below it. A big contradiction.
-Also claims to be a "dual band FM transciever" when it is tri-band.
-Ridiculous TX power claims, not one of these radios ever gets over 6 watts.
Read thru the BS and the Chinglish and watch a few reviews on youtube and you will find out what they really are.
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... as of yesterday. ~$56 (+ CA tax.) Full Kit.
Most say 4-5w. Some, 8. This, 18w. Utubes dispute that for similar units claiming 18... back of the device even has it molded into the shell, 18W. Their (utube) tests show 4+ on a UV9+(?) claiming 18. No HUGE matter. Curious though. One utube had seen one on
"WISH" that claimed 60w, (lol) but I wouldn't trust Wish for that detail.
Still, claiming 18w !?! Strange. Reminds me of the 70s & 80s where the music industry went through machinisms to redefine, "music watts."
Water resistant, IP67. Plus to me!
Reasonable price for s full kit. Have 30 days to consider a $6 2yr protection. Delivery 19 days max. Seller has a good rep. Site dutifully dropped from 4 available, to 3 in minutes.
Working on Tech studies.
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Bill . . . On Sun, 09 Jan 2022 12:21:22 -0800, "billsf9c via groups.io" <OOWONBS@...> wrote: Most say 4-5w. Some, 8. This, 18w. Utubes dispute that for similar units claiming 18... back of the device even has it molded into the shell, 18W. Their (utube) tests show 4+ on a UV9+(?) claiming 18. No HUGE matter. Curious though. One utube had seen one on "WISH" that claimed 60w, (lol) but I wouldn't trust Wish for that detail. Don't believe the wattage claims from sellers. Some add up the wattage for each band, including low and high output settings, put them all together for a whopping claim of big output power. If you live in an area where there are repeaters close by, a handheld can be useful. Here, not so much. I can stand in one place on my city lot and hit one of the local repeaters a bit noisy. Move off a few feet and I can't maintain the link. Mobile with 25W or more I can hit both regularly used FM repeaters in most places around here. There's one dead area along a long hill to the west of here. Once out from the shadow of that hill, I can hit it again. I haven't tried with the 50W on 2M I have available now but I could probably be noisy into the repeater along the base of that hill. From home, with the 25W, I can make it into the repeaters. That's into either a dual-band J-pole or my tri-band mobile antenna. When I bought my UV-5R (no longer sold as it didn't meet FCC requirements to prevent out of band operation), I got two of the extended life batteries and they gave me credit for the smaller one that came with it. I also have the BF-888 which also shouldn't have been sold in the US but I put it on the 440 MHz band and added some family radio service channels to it also. It's actually higher wattage than allowed on the FRS band but I have never used it there. I consider it for an emergency on those channels. You'll want to get good at programming it from the front panel or get a good cable with the FDTI chipset (not the Prolific chipset) from the Baofeng people and download CHIRP onto a Windows PC. I think it may work under Linux also using WINE or Crossover. It's easy to program frequencies using CHIRP. I never got the hang of manually programming repeaters into the radio I have. CHIRP is free. The cable is not, and I recommend NOT buying the cheapest cable. Look at the reviews, find one with an FDTI chipset, and preferably buy from BTech USA (I think that's the name) which is Baofeng's US distributor. They're on Amazon. There's a group here called CHIRP that can help you if you need help. Once you get a good cable (not all will work well), the hardest thing is working out the COM port used by the driver and radio and how the programming works. Donald KX8K ---------------------------------------------------- Some ham radio groups you may be interested in: /g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas/g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng/g/CHIRP
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Thanks to Darrell AB2E, I've ordered a ...
... as of yesterday. ~$56 (+ CA tax.) Full Kit.
Most say 4-5w. Some, 8. This, 18w. Utubes dispute that for similar units claiming 18... back of the device even has it molded into the shell, 18W. Their (utube) tests show 4+ on a UV9+(?) claiming 18. No HUGE matter. Curious though. One utube had seen one on "WISH" that claimed 60w, (lol) but I wouldn't trust Wish for that detail.
Still, claiming 18w !?! Strange. Reminds me of the 70s & 80s where the music industry went through machinisms to redefine, "music watts."
Water resistant, IP67. Plus to me!
Reasonable price for s full kit. Have 30 days to consider a $6 2yr protection. Delivery 19 days max. Seller has a good rep. Site dutifully dropped from 4 available, to 3 in minutes.
Working on Tech studies.
BillSF9c
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Re: Failure to Transmit Problem Fixed
Hello Lee
Would you please suggest 1 or 2 references/web-links for modifying the BaoFeng UV-5R to be used as a fox hunt transmitter?
Thank you.
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There¡¯s also a really nice device by TIDRADIO: the BL-1 Bluetooth programmer!
They are available through Amazon for $19.99.
I don¡¯t recommend using it to program you entire radio as it can be very time consuming. But it works great to program a couple of channels or modify channel mistakes/changes. It will also hold several program downloads. Have no idea how many it will hold, but I have several scans on mine.
You can use it with Android or Apple device and you do NOT need a cable!
Just my 2 cents worth.
Rod
KC7CJO
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On Oct 13, 2021, at 19:23, Donald Hellen <donhellen@...> wrote:
?On Thu, 14 Oct 2021 01:00:46 +0000, "Doug J" <vk2xlj@...>
wrote:
The UV-5R is a good budget priced radio. They are good value for the price you pay, but they aren't top of the line. If you take them into town/shopping centres, they are prone to interference, as they aren't very selective. I have a UV-5R also. I bought it from a retailer at Hamvention a few
years ago and got it with two of the extended batteries (they let me
swap and pay the difference between the small battery and the larger
one).
If you're not in a flat area or nor near a repeater, it may not be
worth getting a handheld. If you can have another ham in your club
come over and test to see if you can bring up the local repeaters from
your home, or wherever else you might want to use it, that would tell
you if it's a good purchase. Mine wasn't. I have one spot outside by
the garage where I can bring up one repeater, and I'm a bit noisy
getting into it.
One other thing to know ahead of time with most of these Chinese
radios is that you'll probably want a programming cable (get one from
BTech on Amazon and you'll be getting the one from Baofeng's USA
distributor), and CHIRP programming software (it's free). There's a
CHIRP group here, too, that I started so if you have questions about
using it, then post there. If you don't get the cable from BTech, get
one with the FDTI chipset. There are counterfeit cables with the
Prolific chipset and the driver will refuse to work with a counterfeit
cable in at least some cases. There's a third chipset that I forgot
what it's called and it will work, but finding the driver for it was
not easy. I have an "octopus" cable that has 8 or so different ends to
fit various radios, and I bought it just to see if it works. Other
then the difficulty of finding the right driver for it, it DOES
actually work, so I can program several brands of radios with it.
You can also get non-free software from RT Systems. You can get a good
cable from them and also great software, but CHIRP is good enough and
will save you money. Figure about $50 for the cable and software from
them. Figure less than $20 for the official cable, less for one that
works but isn't the official one (check Amazon reviews first as some
are a waste of money), and CHIRP software is free.
There are other Chinese radio HTs but Baofeng is probably the most
popular and least problematic. Don't try to save a few $$$ and buy
another brand. The Baofengs are already pretty cheap anyway. I won a
different Chinese brand of HT at our local hamfest and after finding a
cable for it, was unable to program it. I sold it for $5 at the next
year's hamfest, which is about 1/2 what I paid for the cable. It was a
waste of money to have even bought the cable! (Yes, I did tell the
buyer my negative experience.)
Donald KX8K
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/g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas
/g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng
/g/CHIRP
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