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Re: Navigation weirdness

 

Not really germane to the discussion but I have a Garmin GPS that I use instead of Apple or Google Maps. It¡¯s never let me down but it does help to know where you¡¯re trying to go. :-)

I can download the latest map info for free to keep it current

Dutch

On Sep 4, 2024, at 1:52?PM, Jim Saklad via groups.io <jimdoc@...> wrote:

Otto Nikolaus wrote:

?Yes, you said the destination wasn¡¯t accepted, but the result is the same: it needs both (obviously).

It looks like there must¡¯ve been a problem will cell reception at that time where you were.
Before the map apps existed I had a Garmin GPS mapping device.

One of my first App purchases was the TomTom mapping app. Apps like this contain GIGABYTES of mapping data and are (almost) entirely independent of Wifi or Cellular connectivity.

They CAN utilize connectivity for add-on functionality like traffic or speed traps, and of course they require GPS reception, but they can get you from Point A to Point B with NO connection to the internet.






Re: Navigation weirdness

 

Otto Nikolaus wrote:

?Yes, you said the destination wasn¡¯t accepted, but the result is the same: it needs both (obviously).

It looks like there must¡¯ve been a problem will cell reception at that time where you were.
Before the map apps existed I had a Garmin GPS mapping device.

One of my first App purchases was the TomTom mapping app. Apps like this contain GIGABYTES of mapping data and are (almost) entirely independent of Wifi or Cellular connectivity.

They CAN utilize connectivity for add-on functionality like traffic or speed traps, and of course they require GPS reception, but they can get you from Point A to Point B with NO connection to the internet.


Re: Navigation weirdness

 

Yes, you said the destination wasn¡¯t accepted, but the result is the same: it needs both (obviously).

It looks like there must¡¯ve been a problem will cell reception at that time where you were.

Otto

On 4 Sep 2024, at 03:53, Andrew Buc via groups.io <abuc@...> wrote:

I¡¯m thinking that I wasn¡¯t clear earlier¡ªthe apps failed to recognize my starting point. I was writing a few days after the fact.


Re: Navigation weirdness

 

Apple Maps is not reliable. Google owns both Google Maps and Waze. Both now reflect things like traffic, accidents, and speed traps from the same dataset. The choice between the two comes down to the user interface you prefer. I personally prefer Google Maps because the web interface on desktop is easier for me and transfer a route to my phone is very simple. I've done route planning entirely on my phone in Google Maps and Waze and it doesn't matter much. Whichever makes you happier - the result is the same.
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With all respect to Andrew, this sounds like a combination of operator error and reliance on a poor tool (Apple Maps).
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I regularly set up routes with multiple stops, often in off the grid places, without issues. I travel for work a lot so many places in many cars through CarPay and directly on the phone.
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Every time I try and outsmart the phone it bites me (the decision, not the phone). The last time I got seriously awkward guidance was over fifteen years ago when I was routed down a literal cow path (had to open cattle gates at both ends) in rural Eastern Shore Maryland. The data collection and routing algorithms are better now.
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dave


deleting photos from phone but not icloud

 

I see I can disable sync-to-cloud & then delete from phone, but what happens if I later re-enable sync-to-cloud?
Do all the cloud-pix then reappear on my phone or what??
bj
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Re: Navigation weirdness

 

I¡¯m thinking that I wasn¡¯t clear earlier¡ªthe apps failed to recognize my starting point. I was writing a few days after the fact.

On 3 Sep 2024, at 6:39, Otto Nikolaus via groups.io wrote:

Andrew said that he used Waze & Apple Maps, and both failed to recognise the destinations, presumably from each previous one.


Re: Navigation weirdness

 

Just for future reference, starting with iOS 17 Apple Maps supports offline maps.

On Sep 3, 2024, at 2:39?PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:

If you use a free standing GPS device, it could have the maps installed on the device or accessed from cellular data.
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Ben in TX


Re: Navigation weirdness

 

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Waze looks very different to the other mapping apps I¡¯ve used. A great feature is that users can add info that you just won¡¯t get from the others.?

(I didn¡¯t know that it was taken over by Google <>.)

Otto

On 3 Sep 2024, at 14:43, Cathy via <devittad2@...> wrote:

Will Waze work through CarPlay? ?My Subaru has a nice big screen and voice through the audio system. ?Never tried anything but Maps. ?It works fine, but if Waze is better, I¡¯d like to try it.


Re: Navigation weirdness

 

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Sometimes cellular data is down. Most navigation apps for the phone rely on cellular data to resolve and display the results.?

If you use a free standing GPS device, it could have the maps installed on the device or accessed from cellular data.?

Or, but rare, the GPS could be blocked foe certain areas or temporarily for circumstances.?

As Otto, you and the Magic 7-ball suggested, try, again.?

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On Sep 3, 2024, at 10:06, Otto Nikolaus via groups.io <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:

?Andrew said that he used Waze & Apple Maps, and both failed to recognise the destinations, presumably from each previous one.

Otto

On 3 Sep 2024, at 13:32, Brent L via <flapdoodle@...> wrote:

What map app are you using? If you are not using Waze you are missing the best app.


Re: Navigation weirdness

 

It works through CarPlay with the Pioneer receiver I fitted to our ageing car.

Otto

On 3 Sep 2024, at 18:09, Brent L via groups.io <flapdoodle@...> wrote:

Cathy, I use Waze through carplay in my 2024 Nissan Kicks.


Re: Navigation weirdness

 

Cathy, I use Waze through?carplay in my 2024 Nissan Kicks.

On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 12:06?PM Cathy via <devittad2=[email protected]> wrote:
Will Waze work through CarPlay?? My Subaru has a nice big screen and voice through the audio system.? Never tried anything but Maps.? It works fine, but if Waze is better, I¡¯d like to try it.
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Cathy

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Re: Navigation weirdness

 

Will Waze work through CarPlay? ?My Subaru has a nice big screen and voice through the audio system. ?Never tried anything but Maps. ?It works fine, but if Waze is better, I¡¯d like to try it.
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Cathy

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Re: Navigation weirdness

 

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Andrew said that he used Waze & Apple Maps, and both failed to recognise the destinations, presumably from each previous one.

Otto

On 3 Sep 2024, at 13:32, Brent L via <flapdoodle@...> wrote:

What map app are you using? If you are not using Waze you are missing the best app.


Re: Navigation weirdness

 

What happens if you try to plan that route now, back at home, or indeed anywhere else you might be?

Otto

On 3 Sep 2024, at 03:37, Andrew Buc via groups.io <abuc@...> wrote:

I had an odd experience a few nights ago. Rather than go straight home from work, I went to a certain branch of my bank to get some cash. This part wasn¡¯t the problem--the route from work to the bank is very straightforward, and I¡¯ve done it before. The plan was to go from the bank to these destinations:

Destination A: Cafe about a mile from the bank, where I planned to get a bite to eat.
Destination B: Bookstore 2 or 3 miles from the cafe, where I was going to an author¡¯s appearance.
Destination C: Home, ~15 miles from the bookstore.

What made this tricky was that this was all in a neighborhood with which I¡¯m not very familiar. I had literally never been to the cafe and the bookstore. I printed out hard copy Bing Maps directions, and it turned out to be good that I did.

When I tried to go from the bank to the cafe, neither navigation app I tried (Waze and Apple Maps) was able to interpret and accept the destination. I had to rely on the printed directions. When I tried to set a destination for the bookstore and later for home, it was the same story. Waze did give me occasional warnings like ¡°railroad tracks ahead¡± and ¡°stalled vehicle ahead,¡± as it normally does.

After the reading, I had no luck entering my home address as the destination. At this point it was too dark to read the printed directions. I guessed, correctly, that if I followed a certain nearby street westward, it would lead me into an arterial with which I was familiar, and I¡¯d be able to get home with no help from the iPhone. I put the phone in the cupholder on the console. At a couple of points I took a quick look at it, and the navigation app did show where I was. I assume that without knowing my destination, it couldn¡¯t use my current location to direct me.

Why would something like this happen? Was it a fluke of the moment, or would it be likely to happen in that neighborhood again? The neighborhood is pretty far out of my way, and I was there only because I was very interested in the reading. I don¡¯t really have the time to make another trip there to test the hypothesis. FWIW, my wireless carrier is T-Mobile. Thanks for your thoughts.


Re: Navigation weirdness

 

What map app are you using? If you are not using Waze you are missing the best app.


On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 6:00?AM Andrew Buc via <abuc=[email protected]> wrote:
I had an odd experience a few nights ago. Rather than go straight home
from work, I went to a certain branch of my bank to get some cash. This
part wasn¡¯t the problem--the route from work to the bank is very
straightforward, and I¡¯ve done it before. The plan was to go from the
bank to these destinations:

Destination A: Cafe about a mile from the bank, where I planned to get a
bite to eat.
Destination B: Bookstore 2 or 3 miles from the cafe, where I was going
to an author¡¯s appearance.
Destination C: Home, ~15 miles from the bookstore.

What made this tricky was that this was all in a neighborhood with which
I¡¯m not very familiar. I had literally never been to the cafe and the
bookstore. I printed out hard copy Bing Maps directions, and it turned
out to be good that I did.

When I tried to go from the bank to the cafe, neither navigation app I
tried (Waze and Apple Maps) was able to interpret and accept the
destination. I had to rely on the printed directions. When I tried to
set a destination for the bookstore and later for home, it was the same
story. Waze did give me occasional warnings like ¡°railroad tracks
ahead¡± and ¡°stalled vehicle ahead,¡± as it normally does.

After the reading, I had no luck entering my home address as the
destination. At this point it was too dark to read the printed
directions. I guessed, correctly, that if I followed a certain nearby
street westward, it would lead me into an arterial with which I was
familiar, and I¡¯d be able to get home with no help from the iPhone. I
put the phone in the cupholder on the console. At a couple of points I
took a quick look at it, and the navigation app did show where I was. I
assume that without knowing my destination, it couldn¡¯t use my current
location to direct me.

Why would something like this happen? Was it a fluke of the moment, or
would it be likely to happen in that neighborhood again? The
neighborhood is pretty far out of my way, and I was there only because I
was very interested in the reading. I don¡¯t really have the time to
make another trip there to test the hypothesis. FWIW, my wireless
carrier is T-Mobile. Thanks for your thoughts.








Navigation weirdness

 

I had an odd experience a few nights ago. Rather than go straight home from work, I went to a certain branch of my bank to get some cash. This part wasn¡¯t the problem--the route from work to the bank is very straightforward, and I¡¯ve done it before. The plan was to go from the bank to these destinations:

Destination A: Cafe about a mile from the bank, where I planned to get a bite to eat. Destination B: Bookstore 2 or 3 miles from the cafe, where I was going to an author¡¯s appearance. Destination C: Home, ~15 miles from the bookstore.

What made this tricky was that this was all in a neighborhood with which I¡¯m not very familiar. I had literally never been to the cafe and the bookstore. I printed out hard copy Bing Maps directions, and it turned out to be good that I did.

When I tried to go from the bank to the cafe, neither navigation app I tried (Waze and Apple Maps) was able to interpret and accept the destination. I had to rely on the printed directions. When I tried to set a destination for the bookstore and later for home, it was the same story. Waze did give me occasional warnings like ¡°railroad tracks ahead¡± and ¡°stalled vehicle ahead,¡± as it normally does.

After the reading, I had no luck entering my home address as the destination. At this point it was too dark to read the printed directions. I guessed, correctly, that if I followed a certain nearby street westward, it would lead me into an arterial with which I was familiar, and I¡¯d be able to get home with no help from the iPhone. I put the phone in the cupholder on the console. At a couple of points I took a quick look at it, and the navigation app did show where I was. I assume that without knowing my destination, it couldn¡¯t use my current location to direct me.

Why would something like this happen? Was it a fluke of the moment, or would it be likely to happen in that neighborhood again? The neighborhood is pretty far out of my way, and I was there only because I was very interested in the reading. I don¡¯t really have the time to make another trip there to test the hypothesis. FWIW, my wireless carrier is T-Mobile. Thanks for your thoughts.


Re: Awesome notes

 

My Notes contents disappear on a regular (daily?) basis but shutting the phone off and restarting it revives them. It¡¯s a pain (in the fingers, at least) but so far serves the purpose.

Quod scripsi, misi.

On Aug 29, 2024, at 12:27, Sanjay Kanoria <wsbunter@...> wrote:

?I¡¯ll try using the Apple notes ap.

Awesome notes is by BRID. However there is no response from it to the help messages I sent it via email.

On 27 Aug 2024, at 2:37?AM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:

?Many of us are using Apple¡¯s Notes.app without problems.

Are you using Awesome Notes by BRID? If so, you might check with the developer.

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On Aug 26, 2024, at 08:28, Sanjay Kanoria <wsbunter@...> wrote:
?Is anyone using this ap? I find one of my notes is becoming blank on its own.

Can anyone suggest a good notes ap I may alternately use as this one is giving me surprises?











Re: Awesome notes

 

I¡¯ll try using the Apple notes ap.

Awesome notes is by BRID. However there is no response from it to the help messages I sent it via email.

On 27 Aug 2024, at 2:37?AM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:

?Many of us are using Apple¡¯s Notes.app without problems.

Are you using Awesome Notes by BRID? If so, you might check with the developer.

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On Aug 26, 2024, at 08:28, Sanjay Kanoria <wsbunter@...> wrote:

?Is anyone using this ap? I find one of my notes is becoming blank on its own.

Can anyone suggest a good notes ap I may alternately use as this one is giving me surprises?








Re: Awesome notes

 

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I have a little aside on the thread. ?My math skills are sorely lacking. ?Back in college in the early 70¡¯s I had to take Integral and Differential?
?equations for Business. ?That semester I got 4 A¡¯s and a D ? :-) ? ?But I aced the statistics class.

On Aug 28, 2024, at 9:07?AM, Otto Nikolaus via groups.io <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:

I apologise for continuing this OT, but what sort of maths level did you reach? Differential equations, just as an example?

Otto

On 28 Aug 2024, at 13:27, Brent via <whodo678@...> wrote:

Funny you would say that. Professor Brusin gave only essay question exams. He refused to give multiple guess tests. ?For my final, Final Exam from him, I needed to study for a math exam. I came in and told him I knew I didn¡¯t have an A exam in me to raise my final grade. The exam was 10 essays. I handed him a list of 12 or 13 questions. I had the 10 that were on the exam. He said when the exam starts sign my blue book and turn it in, and I¡¯d get my current grade. I aced that exam and the math exam. I was the first to leave both exams, and got the high score on the math exam.



Re: Awesome notes

 

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I apologise for continuing this OT, but what sort of maths level did you reach? Differential equations, just as an example?

Otto

On 28 Aug 2024, at 13:27, Brent via <whodo678@...> wrote:

Funny you would say that. Professor Brusin gave only essay question exams. He refused to give multiple guess tests. ?For my final, Final Exam from him, I needed to study for a math exam. I came in and told him I knew I didn¡¯t have an A exam in me to raise my final grade. The exam was 10 essays. I handed him a list of 12 or 13 questions. I had the 10 that were on the exam. He said when the exam starts sign my blue book and turn it in, and I¡¯d get my current grade. I aced that exam and the math exam. I was the first to leave both exams, and got the high score on the math exam.