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I saw a few weeks back guys using cyno superglue to attach small pieces to dress them up,someone was turning both sides of a narrow washer, I cant remember how to seperate the turned piece.
I glued some 2 inch ali bar it held good , now ?its still held good .
I tried hitting it with a plastic mallet , wondering If I should soak it, hoping the cyno will break down.
Don
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Soak in a covered jar of acetone.
If that does not work,try a heat gun,it will soften,and if hotter,will burn off.
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--- On Thu, 2/7/13, zl1atb wrote:
From: zl1atb
Subject: [7x12minilathe] seperating workpiece cyno
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Date: Thursday, February 7, 2013, 3:23 AM
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I saw a few weeks back guys using cyno superglue to attach small pieces to dress them up,someone was turning both sides of a narrow washer, I cant remember how to seperate the turned piece.
I glued some 2 inch ali bar it held good , now ?its still held good .
I tried hitting it with a plastic mallet , wondering If I should soak it, hoping the cyno will break down.
Don
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Don they make a
debonder that can be sprayed on your superglue. Try
HobbyKing
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Mike
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I saw a few weeks back guys using cyno superglue to attach small pieces to
dress them up,someone was turning both sides of a narrow washer, I cant
remember how to seperate the turned piece.
I glued some 2 inch ali bar it
held good , now ?its still held good .
I tried hitting it with a plastic
mallet , wondering If I should soak it, hoping the cyno will break
down.
Don
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Thanks for the options guys that was quick. Don ?
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Subject: [7x12minilathe] seperating workpiece cyno? ? I saw a few weeks back guys using cyno superglue to attach small pieces to dress them up,someone was turning both sides of a narrow washer, I cant remember how to seperate the turned piece.
I glued some 2 inch ali bar it held good , now ?its still held good .
I tried hitting it with a plastic mallet , wondering If I should soak it, hoping the cyno will break down.
Don
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Try acetone, I've seen superglue used to hold down printed circuit boards for milling and after it's done they put on acetone to release it from the mill table !
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--- On Wed, 2/6/13, zl1atb wrote:
From: zl1atb
Subject: [7x12minilathe] seperating workpiece cyno
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Date: Wednesday, February 6, 2013, 7:23 PM
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I saw a few weeks back guys using cyno superglue to attach small pieces to dress them up,someone was turning both sides of a narrow washer, I cant remember how to seperate the turned piece.
I glued some 2 inch ali bar it held good , now ?its still held good .
I tried hitting it with a plastic mallet , wondering If I should soak it, hoping the cyno will break down.
Don
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Back when we used superglue to attach accelerometers we detached them by
striking the side. Superglue doesn't hold well in shear.
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On 02/06/2013 07:23 PM, zl1atb wrote: I saw a few weeks back guys using cyno superglue to attach small pieces to dress them up,someone was turning both sides of a narrow washer, I cant remember how to seperate the turned piece.
I glued some 2 inch ali bar it held good , now ?its still held good .
I tried hitting it with a plastic mallet , wondering If I should soak it, hoping the cyno will break down.
Don
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tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886
Skype: jerrydurand
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I saw a few weeks back guys using cyno superglue to attach small pieces to dress them up,someone was turning both sides of a narrow washer, I cant remember
how to seperate the turned piece.
I glued some 2 inch ali bar it held good , now ?its still held good .
I tried hitting it with a plastic mallet , wondering If I should soak it, hoping the cyno will break down.
Don Like other said heat works well. Most adhesives soften or break down about 70 degrees Celcius (~160F). This is very handy to know if you want to get a decal or similar off without damaging it. I usually put them in the oven at around 100c (212F - boiling water temperature) and they'll peel off easily enough. Works well on things like the little surrounds you find on ignition locks. Plastics are ok at that temperature (acrylic melts at 140C), I once removed a thin aluminium bezel off a plastic watch, powder coated it and put it back. Tony
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That's what I thought I was going to be able to do . But its ali and I didn't want to ding it, I tried with a plastic mallet , nothing happened. I made a cpl punch and base tools for separating bearings from nylon crown and pinion gears on r/c helicopters, now members of the club have seen them, and everyone wants one, so trying to use all the off cuts. When I had a wood lathe, ?I had jaws to hold everything,? this little 3” chuck is rather limited in that respect. Don ?
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From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...] On Behalf Of Jerry Durand
Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2013 5:42 p.m.
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] seperating workpiece cyno? ? Back when we used superglue to attach accelerometers we detached them by
striking the side. Superglue doesn't hold well in shear.
On 02/06/2013 07:23 PM, zl1atb wrote:
> I saw a few weeks back guys using cyno superglue to attach small pieces to dress them up,someone was turning both sides of a narrow washer, I cant remember how to seperate the turned piece.
> I glued some 2 inch ali bar it held good , now ?its still held good .
> I tried hitting it with a plastic mallet , wondering If I should soak it, hoping the cyno will break down.
> Don
>
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tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886
Skype: jerrydurand
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?Borrow somebody's Nail
Polish Remover. Make sure it is acetone based. Given a little soak
time it'll turn the glue into goo, and separation & clean up
gets easy after that. My first experience with Super Glue ()
for work holding, was making two headed (and two tailed) coins.
Held a lot better than I expected. If I were to offer advice to
anyone it would be to simply follow the directions - using too
much glue is as bad or worse than not using enough. A small drop
goes a long way...!
?My wife hit the local Dollar Store and picked up a couple bottles
of acetone based Nail Polish Remover for, you guessed it, $1 each.
Will probably last for quite awhile yet, since I can use the
bottle cap to soak the coins in, so it doesn't take very much. (I
glued coins to the end of a short length of a freshly faced steel
bar, then used a dial indicator to center the coin in my 4-jaw
chuck). Afterwards I just stood the bar vertically on the coin end
which was sitting in a cap full of nail polish remover, and let it
soak for awhile...
?John Z.
On 2/6/2013 10:23 PM, zl1atb wrote:
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I saw a few weeks back guys using cyno superglue to
attach small pieces to dress them up,someone was turning
both sides of a narrow washer, I cant remember how to
seperate the turned piece.
I glued some 2 inch ali bar it held good , now ?its still
held good .
I tried hitting it with a plastic mallet , wondering If I
should soak it, hoping the cyno will break down.
Don
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Thanks ?everyone I got it off , I tried heat and acetone? (nail polish remover) Man that stuff gives me a headache, where as laquer paint thinners doesn't. Nearly as nasty as two pack paint . I did use too much cyno on faced surfaces , nowhere for the acetone to sink in. Don ?
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From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...] On Behalf Of Tony Smith
Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2013 5:54 p.m.
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] seperating workpiece cyno? ? > I saw a few weeks back guys using cyno superglue to attach small pieces to
dress
> them up,someone was turning both sides of a narrow washer, I cant remember
> how to seperate the turned piece.
> I glued some 2 inch ali bar it held good , now ?its still held good .
> I tried hitting it with a plastic mallet , wondering If I should soak it,
hoping the
> cyno will break down.
> Don
Like other said heat works well.
Most adhesives soften or break down about 70 degrees Celcius (~160F). This
is very handy to know if you want to get a decal or similar off without
damaging it. I usually put them in the oven at around 100c (212F - boiling
water temperature) and they'll peel off easily enough.
Works well on things like the little surrounds you find on ignition locks.
Plastics are ok at that temperature (acrylic melts at 140C), I once removed
a thin aluminium bezel off a plastic watch, powder coated it and put it
back.
Tony
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Hardware stores sell acetone in quart cans quite cheaply.? One can should last a lifetime of CA removal and removal of your wife's nail polish.
Colin.
From: SirJohnOfYork To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2013, 0:53
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] seperating workpiece cyno
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?Borrow somebody's Nail
Polish Remover. Make sure it is acetone based. Given a little soak
time it'll turn the glue into goo, and separation & clean up
gets easy after that. My first experience with Super Glue ()
for work holding, was making two headed (and two tailed) coins.
Held a lot better than I expected. If I were to offer advice to
anyone it would be to simply follow the directions - using too
much glue is as bad or worse than not using enough. A small drop
goes a long way...!
?My wife hit the local Dollar Store and picked up a couple bottles
of acetone based Nail Polish Remover for, you guessed it, $1 each.
Will probably last for quite awhile yet, since I can use the
bottle cap to soak the coins in, so it doesn't take very much. (I
glued coins to the end of a short length of a freshly faced steel
bar, then used a dial indicator to center the coin in my 4-jaw
chuck). Afterwards I just stood the bar vertically on the coin end
which was sitting in a cap full of nail polish remover, and let it
soak for awhile...
?John Z.
On 2/6/2013 10:23 PM, zl1atb wrote:
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I saw a few weeks back guys using cyno superglue to
attach small pieces to dress them up,someone was turning
both sides of a narrow washer, I cant remember how to
seperate the turned piece.
I glued some 2 inch ali bar it held good , now ?its still
held good .
I tried hitting it with a plastic mallet , wondering If I
should soak it, hoping the cyno will break down.
Don
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Use acetone. It will always break the super glue down.
Mark Stangl
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On 07/02/2013 04:23, zl1atb wrote: I saw a few weeks back guys using cyno superglue to attach small pieces to dress them up,someone was turning both sides of a narrow washer, I cant remember how to seperate the turned piece.
I glued some 2 inch ali bar it held good , now ?its still held good .
I tried hitting it with a plastic mallet , wondering If I should soak it, hoping the cyno will break down.
Don As others have said Heat or Acetone (that is real Acetone not nail polish remover which is mainly water). If I am turning fancy washers or something of the type I slightly recess the end of a bar in the chuck so as to have a concentric register to locate the washer for the second operation. I saw a piece out of the side of the bar so that I can get at the back of the washer when glued in. After 2nd op. Some heat and a tap with a wood or plastic punch pops the part off. Clean with acetone then do the next etc. Richard
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Make sure you put the acetone lid back on TIGHT!
I went to get a can down that was only two months old,and it was empty.
The lid tightened up with about a 1/16 of a turn.
Hard to believe that most of a quart evaporated out of that cap.
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--- On Thu, 2/7/13, Colin Sharpe wrote:
From: Colin Sharpe
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] seperating workpiece cyno
To: "7x12minilathe@..." <7x12minilathe@...>
Date: Thursday, February 7, 2013, 11:56 AM
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Hardware stores sell acetone in quart cans quite cheaply.? One can should last a lifetime of CA removal and removal of your wife's nail polish.
Colin.
From: SirJohnOfYork
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2013, 0:53
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] seperating workpiece cyno
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?Borrow somebody's Nail Polish Remover. Make sure it is acetone based. Given a little soak time it'll turn the glue into goo, and separation & clean up gets easy after that. My first experience with Super Glue () for work holding, was making two headed (and two tailed) coins. Held a lot better than I expected. If I were to offer advice to anyone it would be to simply follow the directions - using too much glue is as bad or worse than not using enough. A small drop goes a long way...!
?My wife hit the local Dollar Store and picked up a couple bottles of acetone based Nail Polish Remover for, you guessed it, $1 each. Will probably last for quite awhile yet, since I can use the bottle cap to soak the coins in, so it doesn't take very much. (I glued coins to the end of a short length of a freshly
faced steel bar, then used a dial indicator to center the coin in my 4-jaw chuck). Afterwards I just stood the bar vertically on the coin end which was sitting in a cap full of nail polish remover, and let it soak for awhile...
?John Z.
On 2/6/2013 10:23 PM, zl1atb wrote:
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I saw a few weeks back guys using cyno superglue to attach small pieces to dress them up,someone was turning both sides of a narrow washer, I cant remember how to seperate the turned piece.
I glued some 2 inch ali bar it held good , now ?its still held good .
I tried hitting it with a plastic mallet , wondering If I should soak it, hoping the cyno will break down.
Don
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Too right! I had a gallon (1.25 US gallons) can of acetone, nearly full. It?lurked?untouched in the garage for 30 years. When I eventually needed some, it was empty. The top surface?had gone rusty (condensation, probably) and there were one or two pinholes through it.
?
Andy
To: 7x12minilathe@... From: maschwiebert@... Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 09:23:16 -0800 Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] seperating workpiece cyno ?
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Make sure you put the acetone lid back on TIGHT!
I went to get a can down that was only two months old,and it was empty.
The lid tightened up with about a 1/16 of a turn.
Hard to believe that most of a quart evaporated out of that cap.
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From: Colin Sharpe
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] seperating workpiece cyno
To: "7x12minilathe@..." <7x12minilathe@...>
Date: Thursday, February 7, 2013, 11:56 AM
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Hardware stores sell acetone in quart cans quite cheaply.? One can should last a lifetime of CA removal and removal of your wife's nail polish.
Colin.
From: SirJohnOfYork
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2013, 0:53
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] seperating workpiece cyno
?
?Borrow somebody's Nail Polish Remover. Make sure it is acetone based. Given a little soak time it'll turn the glue into goo, and separation & clean up gets easy after that. My first experience with Super Glue () for work holding, was making two headed (and two tailed) coins. Held a lot better than I expected. If I were to offer advice to anyone it would be to simply follow the directions - using too much glue is as bad or worse than not using enough. A small drop goes a long way...!
?My wife hit the local Dollar Store and picked up a couple bottles of acetone based Nail Polish Remover for, you guessed it, $1 each. Will probably last for quite awhile yet, since I can use the bottle cap to soak the coins in, so it doesn't take very much. (I glued coins to the end of a short length of a freshly faced steel bar, then used a dial indicator to center the coin in my 4-jaw chuck). Afterwards I just stood the bar vertically on the coin end which was sitting in a cap full of nail polish remover, and let it soak for awhile...
?John Z.
On 2/6/2013 10:23 PM, zl1atb wrote:
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I saw a few weeks back guys using cyno superglue to attach small pieces to dress them up,someone was turning both sides of a narrow washer, I cant remember how to seperate the turned piece.
I glued some 2 inch ali bar it held good , now ?its still held good .
I tried hitting it with a plastic mallet , wondering If I should soak it, hoping the cyno will break down.
Don
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Don,
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I suppose you've probably solved this by now, but if not ---
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Hold a steel piece hard against the aluminum piece, no clearance, then
strike the block with a common hammer, not soft or dead blow. If you don't trust
this, make up a test piece to try it on first.
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Just a thought.
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Anthony
Berkeley, Calif.
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In a message dated Wed Feb?6,?2013 9:10?pm (PST),?Don
Leitch?writes:
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what I thought I was going to be able to do .
But its ali and I didn't
want to ding it, I tried with a plastic mallet ,
nothing
happened.
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Hi and thanks? good idea , yes its removed Don ?
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From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...] On Behalf Of anthrhodes@...
Sent: Saturday, 9 February 2013 5:27 p.m.
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: seperating workpiece cyno? ? I suppose you've probably solved this by now, but if not --- Hold a steel piece hard against the aluminum piece, no clearance, then strike the block with a common hammer, not soft or dead blow. If you don't trust this, make up a test piece to try it on first. In a message dated Wed Feb?6,?2013 9:10?pm (PST),?Don Leitch?writes: That's what I thought I was going to be able to do .
But its ali and I didn't want to ding it, I tried with a plastic mallet ,
nothing happened.
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