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The HF 8x14 now on sale for 699. With 20% coupon that reduces to 560. The 8x14 is much more machine than the 7x.
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MUCH MUCH more!!!
?
but keep in mind.. no variable speed control (all belt
speeds)..
?
and I dont think there is a lead screw reverse lever..?
(only if you run chuck in opposite direction)
?
(without tumbler gear or whatever)
?
Go to fignoggle.com to see comparrison pics of the 7x vs the
8x..? The 7x is like a shoe bow!
?
?
?
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The HF 8x14 now on sale for 699. With 20% coupon that reduces to 560. The
8x14 is much more machine than the 7x.
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Is there a 20 per cent coupon code that will work with sale items? I just tested Coupon Code : DISC20 and no-go.
Thanks
Cliff
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The HF 8x14 now on sale for 699. With 20% coupon that reduces to 560. The 8x14 is much more machine than the 7x.
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Maybe. If you need an extra inch of swing. If you don't mind changing
belts. If you never want to cut LH threads, or use the power feed to cut
toward the TS. If you need a lot more power than the &x series. I don't
know anything about the 8x14, except what I read on this list; don't even
think I've seen one in the catalogs. In my experience though, the 7x12,
(really a 7x14) is the best small lathe, which is a real engine lathe, for
anywhere near the price. I own 3 of 'em as well as a 7x10. They lack only
the 40 thread LS gearbox, separate power feed shaft, & cross slide power
feed, which I enjoy having on my 12x36, with the 2 HP 240 v. motor. I do
have to change belts for the 6 fast spindle speeds, and unscrew the bull pin
& engage the back gears for the 6 slow ones. It does have plenty of torque
at 30 rpm, though. I like the 1-3/8" hole thru the spindle, too. FWIW, I
bought a HF 7x10 out of curiosity about 20 years ago, and have been an
enthusiastic fan of the 7xs ever since. Especially, for someone with
limited space, (I have 1500 sf), & a limited budget, (I'm a retired
schoolteacher). I wish these were available in 1958 when I bought my Unimat
DB200.
Mert
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-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of whispers [HM]
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 11:44 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe
MUCH MUCH more!!!
but keep in mind.. no variable speed control (all belt speeds)..
and I dont think there is a lead screw reverse lever.. (only if you run
chuck in opposite direction)
(without tumbler gear or whatever)
Go to fignoggle.com to see comparrison pics of the 7x vs the 8x.. The 7x
is like a shoe bow!
----- Original Message -----
From: John Brookes
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 3:35 PM
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe
The HF 8x14 now on sale for 699. With 20% coupon that reduces to 560.
The 8x14 is much more machine than the 7x.
j
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More on this price thing. I bought that 7x10 for just under $300 in the
early 90s. I paid $130 for the DB200 in 1958. According to the official US
government inflation calculator, the buying power of 130 1958 dollars equals
that of 431 dollars in 1990. The bare bones 7x10 is 20 times the lathe the
Uni is. It does lake the ability to be turned into a mill/drill, though.
Let's be fair.
Mert
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From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of whispers [HM]
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 11:44 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe
MUCH MUCH more!!!
but keep in mind.. no variable speed control (all belt speeds)..
and I dont think there is a lead screw reverse lever.. (only if you run
chuck in opposite direction)
(without tumbler gear or whatever)
Go to fignoggle.com to see comparrison pics of the 7x vs the 8x.. The 7x
is like a shoe bow!
----- Original Message -----
From: John Brookes
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 3:35 PM
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe
The HF 8x14 now on sale for 699. With 20% coupon that reduces to 560.
The 8x14 is much more machine than the 7x.
j
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Everything I have stated is 'fair' (and
true/correct)..
?
Also talking pricing.
?
I got my roughly 2+ years ago maybe..?
?
and I got mine for dirt cheap!
?
was on sale at HF (NOT ADVERTISED SALE).. just a call.. ask
for price. saw it was $449..
?
went in.. used an ADDITIONAL 20% off coupon..? order it..
walked out paying $379+ after all was said and done and taxes..etc.
?
?
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Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Buying a
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More on this price thing. I bought that 7x10 for just under $300 in
the
early 90s. I paid $130 for the DB200 in 1958. According to the official
US
government inflation calculator, the buying power of 130 1958 dollars
equals
that of 431 dollars in 1990. The bare bones 7x10 is 20 times the
lathe the
Uni is. It does lake the ability to be turned into a mill/drill,
though.
Let's be fair.
Mert
-----Original
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From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On
Behalf Of whispers [HM]
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 11:44 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject:
Re: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe
MUCH MUCH more!!!
but
keep in mind.. no variable speed control (all belt speeds)..
and I dont
think there is a lead screw reverse lever.. (only if you run
chuck in
opposite direction)
(without tumbler gear or whatever)
Go to
fignoggle.com to see comparrison pics of the 7x vs the 8x.. The 7x
is like
a shoe bow!
----- Original Message -----
From: John Brookes
To:
7x12minilathe@...
Sent:
Friday, October 14, 2011 3:35 PM
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Buying a
mini-lathe
The HF 8x14 now on sale for 699. With 20% coupon that
reduces to 560.
The 8x14 is much more machine than the
7x.
j
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I own both a 8x and a 7x. The 7x is like a toy compared to the 8. The 8 has massive ways, a big solid TS, and works right out of the box.
The 8x has the feel of a big lathe. I dont cut LH threads, need a feed towards the tailstock, or variable speed. I just leave it at 800 rpm for everything from aluminum to ss. If I really need a different speed, I change the belt in one minute.
At 560, its a buy.
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On Oct 15, 2011, at 7:17 AM, MERTON B BAKER wrote: Maybe. If you need an extra inch of swing. If you don't mind changing
belts. If you never want to cut LH threads, or use the power feed to cut
toward the TS. If you need a lot more power than the &x series. I don't
know anything about the 8x14, except what I read on this list; don't even
think I've seen one in the catalogs. In my experience though, the 7x12,
(really a 7x14) is the best small lathe, which is a real engine lathe, for
anywhere near the price. I own 3 of 'em as well as a 7x10. They lack only
the 40 thread LS gearbox, separate power feed shaft, & cross slide power
feed, which I enjoy having on my 12x36, with the 2 HP 240 v. motor. I do
have to change belts for the 6 fast spindle speeds, and unscrew the bull pin
& engage the back gears for the 6 slow ones. It does have plenty of torque
at 30 rpm, though. I like the 1-3/8" hole thru the spindle, too. FWIW, I
bought a HF 7x10 out of curiosity about 20 years ago, and have been an
enthusiastic fan of the 7xs ever since. Especially, for someone with
limited space, (I have 1500 sf), & a limited budget, (I'm a retired
schoolteacher). I wish these were available in 1958 when I bought my Unimat
DB200.
Mert
-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of whispers [HM]
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 11:44 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe
MUCH MUCH more!!!
but keep in mind.. no variable speed control (all belt speeds)..
and I dont think there is a lead screw reverse lever.. (only if you run
chuck in opposite direction)
(without tumbler gear or whatever)
Go to fignoggle.com to see comparrison pics of the 7x vs the 8x.. The 7x
is like a shoe bow!
----- Original Message -----
From: John Brookes
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 3:35 PM
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe
The HF 8x14 now on sale for 699. With 20% coupon that reduces to 560.
The 8x14 is much more machine than the 7x.
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Yes, it is. Can't pan it, never used one, or even seen one.
When I bought my first 7x lathe, I already had the 12x36, and I had all
4 of the 7xs I now own, before the 8x14 appeared on the market. I had a
9x20, though, & sold it. It was bigger than the 7x10, all right, and bigger
than the 7x12 (14)s as well, and had 1/3 of a QC gearbox, too, as well as a
nice wide T-slotted top on the cross slide. It weighed at least 300#. I
paid 300, (used) and after I'd made a few improvements, (Camlock TS, QC
toolpost, Lights) sold it for 800. When I sold it, it was much more useful
(better) than a new one. At the moment I have more lathes than I need, and
have a Uni 3 for sale.
Mert
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-----Original Message----- From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of John Brookes Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 2:55 PM To: 7x12minilathe@... Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe I own both a 8x and a 7x. The 7x is like a toy compared to the 8. The 8 has massive ways, a big solid TS, and works right out of the box. The 8x has the feel of a big lathe. I dont cut LH threads, need a feed towards the tailstock, or variable speed. I just leave it at 800 rpm for everything from aluminum to ss. If I really need a different speed, I change the belt in one minute. At 560, its a buy. On Oct 15, 2011, at 7:17 AM, MERTON B BAKER wrote: Maybe. If you need an extra inch of swing. If you don't mind changing
belts. If you never want to cut LH threads, or use the power feed to cut
toward the TS. If you need a lot more power than the &x series. I don't
know anything about the 8x14, except what I read on this list; don't even
think I've seen one in the catalogs. In my experience though, the 7x12,
(really a 7x14) is the best small lathe, which is a real engine lathe, for
anywhere near the price. I own 3 of 'em as well as a 7x10. They lack only the 40 thread LS gearbox, separate power feed shaft, & cross slide power
feed, which I enjoy having on my 12x36, with the 2 HP 240 v. motor. I do
have to change belts for the 6 fast spindle speeds, and unscrew the bull pin & engage the back gears for the 6 slow ones. It does have plenty of torque at 30 rpm, though. I like the 1-3/8" hole thru the spindle, too. FWIW, I
bought a HF 7x10 out of curiosity about 20 years ago, and have been an
enthusiastic fan of the 7xs ever since. Especially, for someone with
limited space, (I have 1500 sf), & a limited budget, (I'm a retired
schoolteacher). I wish these were available in 1958 when I bought my Unimat DB200.
Mert
-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of whispers [HM]
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 11:44 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe
MUCH MUCH more!!!
but keep in mind.. no variable speed control (all belt speeds)..
and I dont think there is a lead screw reverse lever.. (only if you run
chuck in opposite direction)
(without tumbler gear or whatever)
Go to fignoggle.com to see comparrison pics of the 7x vs the 8x.. The 7x
is like a shoe bow!
----- Original Message -----
From: John Brookes
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 3:35 PM
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe
The HF 8x14 now on sale for 699. With 20% coupon that reduces to 560.
The 8x14 is much more machine than the 7x.
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why do you own 4?
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On Oct 15, 2011, at 4:17 PM, MERTON B BAKER wrote: Yes, it is. Can't pan it, never used one, or even seen one.
When I bought my first 7x lathe, I already had the 12x36, and I had all
4 of the 7xs I now own, before the 8x14 appeared on the market. I had a
9x20, though, & sold it. It was bigger than the 7x10, all right, and bigger
than the 7x12 (14)s as well, and had 1/3 of a QC gearbox, too, as well as a
nice wide T-slotted top on the cross slide. It weighed at least 300#. I
paid 300, (used) and after I'd made a few improvements, (Camlock TS, QC
toolpost, Lights) sold it for 800. When I sold it, it was much more useful
(better) than a new one. At the moment I have more lathes than I need, and
have a Uni 3 for sale.
Mert
-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of John Brookes
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 2:55 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe
I own both a 8x and a 7x. The 7x is like a toy compared to the 8. The 8 has
massive ways, a big solid TS, and works right out of the box.
The 8x has the feel of a big lathe. I dont cut LH threads, need a feed
towards the tailstock, or variable speed. I just leave it at 800 rpm for
everything from aluminum to ss. If I really need a different speed, I change
the belt in one minute.
At 560, its a buy.
On Oct 15, 2011, at 7:17 AM, MERTON B BAKER wrote:
Maybe. If you need an extra inch of swing. If you don't mind changing
belts. If you never want to cut LH threads, or use the power feed to cut
toward the TS. If you need a lot more power than the &x series. I don't
know anything about the 8x14, except what I read on this list; don't even
think I've seen one in the catalogs. In my experience though, the 7x12,
(really a 7x14) is the best small lathe, which is a real engine lathe, for
anywhere near the price. I own 3 of 'em as well as a 7x10. They lack only
the 40 thread LS gearbox, separate power feed shaft, & cross slide power
feed, which I enjoy having on my 12x36, with the 2 HP 240 v. motor. I do
have to change belts for the 6 fast spindle speeds, and unscrew the bull pin
& engage the back gears for the 6 slow ones. It does have plenty of torque
at 30 rpm, though. I like the 1-3/8" hole thru the spindle, too. FWIW, I
bought a HF 7x10 out of curiosity about 20 years ago, and have been an
enthusiastic fan of the 7xs ever since. Especially, for someone with
limited space, (I have 1500 sf), & a limited budget, (I'm a retired
schoolteacher). I wish these were available in 1958 when I bought my Unimat
DB200.
Mert
-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of whispers [HM]
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 11:44 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe
MUCH MUCH more!!!
but keep in mind.. no variable speed control (all belt speeds)..
and I dont think there is a lead screw reverse lever.. (only if you run
chuck in opposite direction)
(without tumbler gear or whatever)
Go to fignoggle.com to see comparrison pics of the 7x vs the 8x.. The 7x
is like a shoe bow!
----- Original Message -----
From: John Brookes
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 3:35 PM
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe
The HF 8x14 now on sale for 699. With 20% coupon that reduces to 560.
The 8x14 is much more machine than the 7x.
j
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I see a 8x12 but not 8x14 (does it measure to be 14 and list as 12?)? And what codes are working online currently? Just curious for a friend not me. I already bought a Grizzly 7x12 (like not having to pay tax, that helped). The 8x12 has its drawbacks but some prefer the belt drive over variable, it is surely a heavier duty machine being 250 pounds ship weight (of course more weight in packaging Vs a 7x12 too) vs the 90 pound 7x12 ship weight.
Not being a patient person I dont like the "Item made to order. Average time to ship is 4 weeks with a maximum of 16 weeks. Customer will be contacted regarding delivery."
Big question though, does anyone know if the bed in the 8x12 is ground and hardened? Dont like the HF only having 90 day warranty though. Seen a reviewer on HF say they paid $499 with free shipping back earlier this year! Never seen the 8x HF lathe that cheap.
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The HF 8x14 now on sale for 699. With 20% coupon that reduces to 560. The 8x14 is much more machine than the 7x.
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I don't believe an extra 20% off is available for the HF 8x12. It seems HF has changed their coupon and discount code policies.
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I own both a 8x and a 7x. The 7x is like a toy compared to the 8. The 8 has massive ways, a big solid TS, and works right out of the box.
The 8x has the feel of a big lathe. I dont cut LH threads, need a feed towards the tailstock, or variable speed. I just leave it at 800 rpm for everything from aluminum to ss. If I really need a different speed, I change the belt in one minute.
At 560, its a buy.
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well heres one for ya.. about 2+ years ago.. it was on sale
for $449!.. .. and I used a %20 off coupon on it..
?
hardened waysI believe..
?
and if you want to add on the no questions asked
warranty..? (like I did).. you can get a replacement if it breaks..?
(I did that as well)
?
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Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 6:29
PM
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: Buying a
mini-lathe
?
I see a 8x12 but not 8x14 (does it measure to be 14 and list as 12?)? And
what codes are working online currently? Just curious for a friend not me. I
already bought a Grizzly 7x12 (like not having to pay tax, that helped). The
8x12 has its drawbacks but some prefer the belt drive over variable, it is
surely a heavier duty machine being 250 pounds ship weight (of course more
weight in packaging Vs a 7x12 too) vs the 90 pound 7x12 ship
weight.
Not being a patient person I dont like the "Item made to order.
Average time to ship is 4 weeks with a maximum of 16 weeks. Customer will be
contacted regarding delivery."
Big question though, does anyone know if
the bed in the 8x12 is ground and hardened? Dont like the HF only having 90
day warranty though. Seen a reviewer on HF say they paid $499 with free
shipping back earlier this year! Never seen the 8x HF lathe that
cheap.
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John Brookes wrote:
>
> The HF 8x14 now
on sale for 699. With 20% coupon that reduces to 560. The 8x14 is much more
machine than the 7x.
> j
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cant hurt to call (maybe even a few times)..
?
for myself.. I always went to my store..? but this was
before they stopped the special order items in the stores..
?
?
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I don't believe an extra 20% off is available for the HF 8x12. It seems HF
has changed their coupon and discount code policies.
--- In 7x12minilathe@...,
John Brookes wrote:
>
> I own both a 8x
and a 7x. The 7x is like a toy compared to the 8. The 8 has massive ways, a
big solid TS, and works right out of the box.
> The 8x has the feel of
a big lathe. I dont cut LH threads, need a feed towards the tailstock, or
variable speed. I just leave it at 800 rpm for everything from aluminum to ss.
If I really need a different speed, I change the belt in one minute.
>
At 560, its a buy.
>
>
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Good question. Got the 7x10 out of curiosity, and felt limited by the 10"
dimension, especially when drilling. saw the Homier on sale for 300, and
bought one. 7x12, it said. When it arrived and got unpacked, I discovered
that the 12 was from the chuck face, and not between centers. Even salesmen
make errors. Not at all saddened by this, and enjoying the extra room, I
found the Grizzly "7x12" on sale for 325, I think it was, and still
curious, I called Grizzly, and was informed that the lathe was out of stock,
& if I agreed to wait, on backorder, they would deduct $50, and ship it
free. I agreed. Now, with three lathes, it didn't make sense to swap
chucks any time I needed the 4 jaw, so that went on the Griz, and the collet
att. I made went permanently on the 7x10. The last one was an extravagance.
I was at a Cummins truck sale, and the Cummins version, which comes with ALL
the extra stuff, lunette, follower rest, face plate, TS chuck, etc. and
bought it. This was before Cummins got embroiled with the diesel people,
and changed to "Toolsnow". the Cummins Lathe has been sitting in its box to
remind me not to do things like that. Good thing my shop is fairly large.
It's handy having the 4 jaw ready to go, but the collets don't get much use
now, although when I was making the closer, they seemed imperative. The
Homier and the Cummins are RBs and the other two are SIEGs. At the moment,
most of my work is on the 12x36, and a couple of Unimats. The 7xs get used
a lot when I have a job on the 12x that I don't want to take out of the
chuck. I'm retired, and the shop is now my playpen, & provides a little
extra income as well. I can make most anything someone is willing to pay
for.
Mert
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-----Original Message----- From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of John Brookes Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 7:26 PM To: 7x12minilathe@... Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe why do you own 4? jb On Oct 15, 2011, at 4:17 PM, MERTON B BAKER wrote: Yes, it is. Can't pan it, never used one, or even seen one.
When I bought my first 7x lathe, I already had the 12x36, and I had all
4 of the 7xs I now own, before the 8x14 appeared on the market. I had a
9x20, though, & sold it. It was bigger than the 7x10, all right, and bigger than the 7x12 (14)s as well, and had 1/3 of a QC gearbox, too, as well as a nice wide T-slotted top on the cross slide. It weighed at least 300#. I
paid 300, (used) and after I'd made a few improvements, (Camlock TS, QC
toolpost, Lights) sold it for 800. When I sold it, it was much more useful (better) than a new one. At the moment I have more lathes than I need, and have a Uni 3 for sale.
Mert
-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of John Brookes
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 2:55 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe
I own both a 8x and a 7x. The 7x is like a toy compared to the 8. The 8 has massive ways, a big solid TS, and works right out of the box.
The 8x has the feel of a big lathe. I dont cut LH threads, need a feed
towards the tailstock, or variable speed. I just leave it at 800 rpm for
everything from aluminum to ss. If I really need a different speed, I change the belt in one minute.
At 560, its a buy.
On Oct 15, 2011, at 7:17 AM, MERTON B BAKER wrote:
Maybe. If you need an extra inch of swing. If you don't mind changing
belts. If you never want to cut LH threads, or use the power feed to cut
toward the TS. If you need a lot more power than the &x series. I don't
know anything about the 8x14, except what I read on this list; don't even
think I've seen one in the catalogs. In my experience though, the 7x12,
(really a 7x14) is the best small lathe, which is a real engine lathe, for anywhere near the price. I own 3 of 'em as well as a 7x10. They lack only
the 40 thread LS gearbox, separate power feed shaft, & cross slide power
feed, which I enjoy having on my 12x36, with the 2 HP 240 v. motor. I do
have to change belts for the 6 fast spindle speeds, and unscrew the bull pin
& engage the back gears for the 6 slow ones. It does have plenty of torque
at 30 rpm, though. I like the 1-3/8" hole thru the spindle, too. FWIW, I
bought a HF 7x10 out of curiosity about 20 years ago, and have been an
enthusiastic fan of the 7xs ever since. Especially, for someone with
limited space, (I have 1500 sf), & a limited budget, (I'm a retired
schoolteacher). I wish these were available in 1958 when I bought my Unimat
DB200.
Mert
-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of whispers [HM]
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 11:44 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe
MUCH MUCH more!!!
but keep in mind.. no variable speed control (all belt speeds)..
and I dont think there is a lead screw reverse lever.. (only if you run
chuck in opposite direction)
(without tumbler gear or whatever)
Go to fignoggle.com to see comparrison pics of the 7x vs the 8x.. The 7x
is like a shoe bow!
----- Original Message -----
From: John Brookes
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 3:35 PM
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe
The HF 8x14 now on sale for 699. With 20% coupon that reduces to 560.
The 8x14 is much more machine than the 7x.
j
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The limitations apply to welders, compressors (I think), and tool cabinets. I didnt know lathes were included.? Good to call and ask. I have 20% coupons, and will send one to anyone who asks. JB
On Oct 15, 2011, at 11:48 PM, whispers [HM] wrote: cant hurt to call (maybe even a few times).. ? for myself.. I always went to my store..? but this was before they stopped the special order items in the stores.. ? ? ? ----- Original Message ----- Sent:?Saturday, October 15, 2011 9:00 PM Subject:?[7x12minilathe] Re: Buying a mini-lathe
I don't believe an extra 20% off is available for the HF 8x12. It seems HF has changed their coupon and discount code policies.
--- In?7x12minilathe@..., John Brookes >
> I own both a 8x and a 7x. The 7x is like a toy compared to the 8. The 8 has massive ways, a big solid TS, and works right out of the box.?
> The 8x has the feel of a big lathe. I dont cut LH threads, need a feed towards the tailstock, or variable speed. I just leave it at 800 rpm for everything from aluminum to ss. If I really need a different speed, I change the belt in one minute.?
> At 560, its a buy.
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From: MERTON B BAKER
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Date: Sunday, October 16, 2011, 10:46 AM
?
Good question. Got the 7x10 out of curiosity, and felt limited by the 10"
dimension, especially when drilling. saw the Homier on sale for 300, and
bought one. 7x12, it said. When it arrived and got unpacked, I discovered
that the 12 was from the chuck face, and not between centers. Even salesmen
make errors. Not at all saddened by this, and enjoying the extra room, I
found the Grizzly "7x12" on sale for 325, I think it was, and still
curious, I called Grizzly, and was informed that the lathe was out of stock,
& if I agreed to wait, on backorder, they would deduct $50, and ship it
free. I agreed. Now, with three lathes, it didn't make sense to swap
chucks any time I needed the 4 jaw, so that went on the Griz, and the collet
att. I made went permanently on the 7x10. The last one was an extravagance.
I was at a Cummins truck sale, and the Cummins version, which comes with ALL
the extra stuff, lunette, follower rest, face plate, TS chuck, etc. and
bought it. This was before Cummins got embroiled with the diesel people,
and changed to "Toolsnow". the Cummins Lathe has been sitting in its box to
remind me not to do things like that. Good thing my shop is fairly large.
It's handy having the 4 jaw ready to go, but the collets don't get much use
now, although when I was making the closer, they seemed imperative. The
Homier and the Cummins are RBs and the other two are SIEGs. At the moment,
most of my work is on the 12x36, and a couple of Unimats. The 7xs get used
a lot when I have a job on the 12x that I don't want to take out of the
chuck. I'm retired, and the shop is now my playpen, & provides a little
extra income as well. I can make most anything someone is willing to pay
for.
Mert
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From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of John Brookes
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 7:26 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe
why do you own 4?
jb
On Oct 15, 2011, at 4:17 PM, MERTON B BAKER wrote:
> Yes, it is. Can't pan it, never used one, or even seen one.
> When I bought my first 7x lathe, I already had the 12x36, and I had all
> 4 of the 7xs I now own, before the 8x14 appeared on the market. I had a
> 9x20, though, & sold it. It was bigger than the 7x10, all right, and
bigger
> than the 7x12 (14)s as well, and had 1/3 of a QC gearbox, too, as well as
a
> nice wide T-slotted top on the cross slide. It weighed at least 300#. I
> paid 300, (used) and after I'd made a few improvements, (Camlock TS, QC
> toolpost, Lights) sold it for 800. When I sold it, it was much more
useful
> (better) than a new one. At the moment I have more lathes than I need,
and
> have a Uni 3 for sale.
>
> Mert
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 7x12minilathe@...
> [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of John Brookes
> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 2:55 PM
> To: 7x12minilathe@...
> Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe
>
>
> I own both a 8x and a 7x. The 7x is like a toy compared to the 8. The 8
has
> massive ways, a big solid TS, and works right out of the box.
> The 8x has the feel of a big lathe. I dont cut LH threads, need a feed
> towards the tailstock, or variable speed. I just leave it at 800 rpm for
> everything from aluminum to ss. If I really need a different speed, I
change
> the belt in one minute.
> At 560, its a buy.
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 15, 2011, at 7:17 AM, MERTON B BAKER wrote:
>
>> Maybe. If you need an extra inch of swing. If you don't mind changing
>> belts. If you never want to cut LH threads, or use the power feed to cut
>> toward the TS. If you need a lot more power than the &x series. I don't
>> know anything about the 8x14, except what I read on this list; don't even
>> think I've seen one in the catalogs. In my experience though, the 7x12,
>> (really a 7x14) is the best small lathe, which is a real engine lathe,
for
>> anywhere near the price. I own 3 of 'em as well as a 7x10. They lack
> only
>> the 40 thread LS gearbox, separate power feed shaft, & cross slide power
>> feed, which I enjoy having on my 12x36, with the 2 HP 240 v. motor. I do
>> have to change belts for the 6 fast spindle speeds, and unscrew the bull
> pin
>> & engage the back gears for the 6 slow ones. It does have plenty of
> torque
>> at 30 rpm, though. I like the 1-3/8" hole thru the spindle, too. FWIW, I
>> bought a HF 7x10 out of curiosity about 20 years ago, and have been an
>> enthusiastic fan of the 7xs ever since. Especially, for someone with
>> limited space, (I have 1500 sf), & a limited budget, (I'm a retired
>> schoolteacher). I wish these were available in 1958 when I bought my
> Unimat
>> DB200.
>>
>> Mert
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: 7x12minilathe@...
>> [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of whispers [HM]
>> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 11:44 PM
>> To: 7x12minilathe@...
>> Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> MUCH MUCH more!!!
>>
>> but keep in mind.. no variable speed control (all belt speeds)..
>>
>> and I dont think there is a lead screw reverse lever.. (only if you run
>> chuck in opposite direction)
>>
>> (without tumbler gear or whatever)
>>
>> Go to fignoggle.com to see comparrison pics of the 7x vs the 8x.. The 7x
>> is like a shoe bow!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: John Brookes
>> To: 7x12minilathe@...
>> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 3:35 PM
>> Subject: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe
>>
>>
>>
>> The HF 8x14 now on sale for 699. With 20% coupon that reduces to 560.
>> The 8x14 is much more machine than the 7x.
>> j
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Thanks for reply. Where is the 12x from, and do you like it?
I too have a 5C collet chuck. (lathemaster). I never use it, but I have hundreds of extra 5C collets, which I plan to sell on ebay.
How close is your tir on a workpiece and what is your procedure for truing?
I have a 7x10 I bought on ebay for 200$. I replaced the motor controller and need to fix the rack. If I put the %C on the *, the 7x could take up the slack.
JB
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On Oct 16, 2011, at 5:46 AM, MERTON B BAKER wrote: Good question. Got the 7x10 out of curiosity, and felt limited by the 10"
dimension, especially when drilling. saw the Homier on sale for 300, and
bought one. 7x12, it said. When it arrived and got unpacked, I discovered
that the 12 was from the chuck face, and not between centers. Even salesmen
make errors. Not at all saddened by this, and enjoying the extra room, I
found the Grizzly "7x12" on sale for 325, I think it was, and still
curious, I called Grizzly, and was informed that the lathe was out of stock,
& if I agreed to wait, on backorder, they would deduct $50, and ship it
free. I agreed. Now, with three lathes, it didn't make sense to swap
chucks any time I needed the 4 jaw, so that went on the Griz, and the collet
att. I made went permanently on the 7x10. The last one was an extravagance.
I was at a Cummins truck sale, and the Cummins version, which comes with ALL
the extra stuff, lunette, follower rest, face plate, TS chuck, etc. and
bought it. This was before Cummins got embroiled with the diesel people,
and changed to "Toolsnow". the Cummins Lathe has been sitting in its box to
remind me not to do things like that. Good thing my shop is fairly large.
It's handy having the 4 jaw ready to go, but the collets don't get much use
now, although when I was making the closer, they seemed imperative. The
Homier and the Cummins are RBs and the other two are SIEGs. At the moment,
most of my work is on the 12x36, and a couple of Unimats. The 7xs get used
a lot when I have a job on the 12x that I don't want to take out of the
chuck. I'm retired, and the shop is now my playpen, & provides a little
extra income as well. I can make most anything someone is willing to pay
for.
Mert
-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of John Brookes
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 7:26 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe
why do you own 4?
jb
On Oct 15, 2011, at 4:17 PM, MERTON B BAKER wrote:
Yes, it is. Can't pan it, never used one, or even seen one.
When I bought my first 7x lathe, I already had the 12x36, and I had all
4 of the 7xs I now own, before the 8x14 appeared on the market. I had a
9x20, though, & sold it. It was bigger than the 7x10, all right, and bigger
than the 7x12 (14)s as well, and had 1/3 of a QC gearbox, too, as well as a
nice wide T-slotted top on the cross slide. It weighed at least 300#. I
paid 300, (used) and after I'd made a few improvements, (Camlock TS, QC
toolpost, Lights) sold it for 800. When I sold it, it was much more useful
(better) than a new one. At the moment I have more lathes than I need, and
have a Uni 3 for sale.
Mert
-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of John Brookes
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 2:55 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe
I own both a 8x and a 7x. The 7x is like a toy compared to the 8. The 8 has
massive ways, a big solid TS, and works right out of the box.
The 8x has the feel of a big lathe. I dont cut LH threads, need a feed
towards the tailstock, or variable speed. I just leave it at 800 rpm for
everything from aluminum to ss. If I really need a different speed, I change
the belt in one minute.
At 560, its a buy.
On Oct 15, 2011, at 7:17 AM, MERTON B BAKER wrote:
Maybe. If you need an extra inch of swing. If you don't mind changing
belts. If you never want to cut LH threads, or use the power feed to cut
toward the TS. If you need a lot more power than the &x series. I don't
know anything about the 8x14, except what I read on this list; don't even
think I've seen one in the catalogs. In my experience though, the 7x12,
(really a 7x14) is the best small lathe, which is a real engine lathe, for
anywhere near the price. I own 3 of 'em as well as a 7x10. They lack only
the 40 thread LS gearbox, separate power feed shaft, & cross slide power
feed, which I enjoy having on my 12x36, with the 2 HP 240 v. motor. I do
have to change belts for the 6 fast spindle speeds, and unscrew the bull pin
& engage the back gears for the 6 slow ones. It does have plenty of torque
at 30 rpm, though. I like the 1-3/8" hole thru the spindle, too. FWIW, I
bought a HF 7x10 out of curiosity about 20 years ago, and have been an
enthusiastic fan of the 7xs ever since. Especially, for someone with
limited space, (I have 1500 sf), & a limited budget, (I'm a retired
schoolteacher). I wish these were available in 1958 when I bought my Unimat
DB200.
Mert
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From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of whispers [HM]
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 11:44 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe
MUCH MUCH more!!!
but keep in mind.. no variable speed control (all belt speeds)..
and I dont think there is a lead screw reverse lever.. (only if you run
chuck in opposite direction)
(without tumbler gear or whatever)
Go to fignoggle.com to see comparrison pics of the 7x vs the 8x.. The 7x
is like a shoe bow!
----- Original Message -----
From: John Brookes
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 3:35 PM
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe
The HF 8x14 now on sale for 699. With 20% coupon that reduces to 560.
The 8x14 is much more machine than the 7x.
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Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 9:22 AM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe
Mert
You can't have too many tools in the playpen!
I don't suffer from insanity I enjoy it!
--- On Sun, 10/16/11, MERTON B BAKER <mertbaker@...> wrote:
From: MERTON B BAKER <mertbaker@...>
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Date: Sunday, October 16, 2011, 10:46 AM
Good question. Got the 7x10 out of curiosity, and felt limited by the 10"
dimension, especially when drilling. saw the Homier on sale for 300, and
bought one. 7x12, it said. When it arrived and got unpacked, I discovered
that the 12 was from the chuck face, and not between centers. Even salesmen
make errors. Not at all saddened by this, and enjoying the extra room, I
found the Grizzly "7x12" on sale for 325, I think it was, and still
curious, I called Grizzly, and was informed that the lathe was out of stock,
& if I agreed to wait, on backorder, they would deduct $50, and ship it
free. I agreed. Now, with three lathes, it didn't make sense to swap
chucks any time I needed the 4 jaw, so that went on the Griz, and the collet
att. I made went permanently on the 7x10. The last one was an extravagance.
I was at a Cummins truck sale, and the Cummins version, which comes with ALL
the extra stuff, lunette, follower rest, face plate, TS chuck, etc. and
bought it. This was before Cummins got embroiled with the diesel people,
and changed to "Toolsnow". the Cummins Lathe has been sitting in its box to
remind me not to do things like that. Good thing my shop is fairly large.
It's handy having the 4 jaw ready to go, but the collets don't get much use
now, although when I was making the closer, they seemed imperative. The
Homier and the Cummins are RBs and the other two are SIEGs. At the moment,
most of my work is on the 12x36, and a couple of Unimats. The 7xs get used
a lot when I have a job on the 12x that I don't want to take out of the
chuck. I'm retired, and the shop is now my playpen, & provides a little
extra income as well. I can make most anything someone is willing to pay
for.
Mert
-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of John Brookes
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 7:26 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe
why do you own 4?
jb
On Oct 15, 2011, at 4:17 PM, MERTON B BAKER wrote:
> Yes, it is. Can't pan it, never used one, or even seen one.
> When I bought my first 7x lathe, I already had the 12x36, and I had all
> 4 of the 7xs I now own, before the 8x14 appeared on the market. I had a
> 9x20, though, & sold it. It was bigger than the 7x10, all right, and
bigger
> than the 7x12 (14)s as well, and had 1/3 of a QC gearbox, too, as well as
a
> nice wide T-slotted top on the cross slide. It weighed at least 300#. I
> paid 300, (used) and after I'd made a few improvements, (Camlock TS, QC
> toolpost, Lights) sold it for 800. When I sold it, it was much more
useful
> (better) than a new one. At the moment I have more lathes than I need,
and
> have a Uni 3 for sale.
>
> Mert
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 7x12minilathe@...
> [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of John Brookes
> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 2:55 PM
> To: 7x12minilathe@...
> Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe
>
>
> I own both a 8x and a 7x. The 7x is like a toy compared to the 8. The 8
has
> massive ways, a big solid TS, and works right out of the box.
> The 8x has the feel of a big lathe. I dont cut LH threads, need a feed
> towards the tailstock, or variable speed. I just leave it at 800 rpm for
> everything from aluminum to ss. If I really need a different speed, I
change
> the belt in one minute.
> At 560, its a buy.
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 15, 2011, at 7:17 AM, MERTON B BAKER wrote:
>
>> Maybe. If you need an extra inch of swing. If you don't mind changing
>> belts. If you never want to cut LH threads, or use the power feed to cut
>> toward the TS. If you need a lot more power than the &x series. I don't
>> know anything about the 8x14, except what I read on this list; don't even
>> think I've seen one in the catalogs. In my experience though, the 7x12,
>> (really a 7x14) is the best small lathe, which is a real engine lathe,
for
>> anywhere near the price. I own 3 of 'em as well as a 7x10. They lack
> only
>> the 40 thread LS gearbox, separate power feed shaft, & cross slide power
>> feed, which I enjoy having on my 12x36, with the 2 HP 240 v. motor. I do
>> have to change belts for the 6 fast spindle speeds, and unscrew the bull
> pin
>> & engage the back gears for the 6 slow ones. It does have plenty of
> torque
>> at 30 rpm, though. I like the 1-3/8" hole thru the spindle, too. FWIW, I
>> bought a HF 7x10 out of curiosity about 20 years ago, and have been an
>> enthusiastic fan of the 7xs ever since. Especially, for someone with
>> limited space, (I have 1500 sf), & a limited budget, (I'm a retired
>> schoolteacher). I wish these were available in 1958 when I bought my
> Unimat
>> DB200.
>>
>> Mert
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: 7x12minilathe@...
>> [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of whispers [HM]
>> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 11:44 PM
>> To: 7x12minilathe@...
>> Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> MUCH MUCH more!!!
>>
>> but keep in mind.. no variable speed control (all belt speeds)..
>>
>> and I dont think there is a lead screw reverse lever.. (only if you run
>> chuck in opposite direction)
>>
>> (without tumbler gear or whatever)
>>
>> Go to fignoggle.com to see comparrison pics of the 7x vs the 8x.. The 7x
>> is like a shoe bow!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: John Brookes
>> To: 7x12minilathe@...
>> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 3:35 PM
>> Subject: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe
>>
>>
>>
>> The HF 8x14 now on sale for 699. With 20% coupon that reduces to 560.
>> The 8x14 is much more machine than the 7x.
>> j
>>
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That would be awesome but I dont compare prices when they are that old of deals. I paid $440 for a brand new 7x12 last week and wondering if I should return it and get the 8x12 if it is that much better. A friend of mine is going to order one Monday if he finds a working coupon code. I still have yet to find one that will work on that lathe.
The current price before code isnt bad, but by the time you add shipping and tax that is more than I am spending right now (I will wait another year or two and hopefully be buying either a used decent size SouthBend or a new 12x-14x lathe with like 36-40 bed roughly if I have the room for it I plan by then).
So at $440 and no tax (plus shipping cheaper than HF charges), should I keep the 7x12 or return it and get the HF 8x lathe? (if a working coupon code is shown to me) Or keep the 7x12 and learn on it till I can get a much larger lathe like I want that will blow the 8x away? I am conflicted now that I seen this deal and possible coupon?
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well heres one for ya.. about 2+ years ago.. it was on sale for $449!.. .. and I used a %20 off coupon on it..
hardened waysI believe..
and if you want to add on the no questions asked warranty.. (like I did).. you can get a replacement if it breaks.. (I did that as well)
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I see a 8x12 but not 8x14 (does it measure to be 14 and list as 12?)? And what codes are working online currently? Just curious for a friend not me. I already bought a Grizzly 7x12 (like not having to pay tax, that helped). The 8x12 has its drawbacks but some prefer the belt drive over variable, it is surely a heavier duty machine being 250 pounds ship weight (of course more weight in packaging Vs a 7x12 too) vs the 90 pound 7x12 ship weight.
Not being a patient person I dont like the "Item made to order. Average time to ship is 4 weeks with a maximum of 16 weeks. Customer will be contacted regarding delivery."
Big question though, does anyone know if the bed in the 8x12 is ground and hardened? Dont like the HF only having 90 day warranty though. Seen a reviewer on HF say they paid $499 with free shipping back earlier this year! Never seen the 8x HF lathe that cheap.
--- In 7x12minilathe@..., John Brookes <haiticare2011@> wrote:
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> The HF 8x14 now on sale for 699. With 20% coupon that reduces to 560. The 8x14 is much more machine than the 7x.
> j
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Got the 12X from an outfit in Nevada a long time ago. It's Jet brand from
Taiwan. I remember thinking at the time I uncrated it, that the local
machine tool factory (Chas. G. Allen) wouldn't have let it out of the shop
looking so crude, but it has performed extremely well for me for nearly 30
years. I'm using it for my present project, making endmill holders for
Unimats.
I made a 5C collet closer for it, but have yet to need it for anything.
I'd make these Unimat endmill holders from 3' lengths of bar stock on it,
but the 4x6 bandsaw cuts 'em off quicker than I could part 'em off , even
under power on the lathe. The collet closer I made for the 7x, takes 3C
collets, right in scale. I'm interested in more 5C collets; what would you
like to have that I might have lying around useless? What size spindle bore
does the 8x have? One of the reasons I sold the 9x, was the 3/4" bore, same
as the 7xs. That is huge for such a small lathe as the 7xs. I sold the
Atlas 618 I rebuilt for the same reason; except for the bed length, the 7x
was bigger all around.
Mert
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-----Original Message----- From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of John Brookes Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 9:37 AM To: 7x12minilathe@... Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe Mert Thanks for reply. Where is the 12x from, and do you like it? I too have a 5C collet chuck. (lathemaster). I never use it, but I have hundreds of extra 5C collets, which I plan to sell on ebay. How close is your tir on a workpiece and what is your procedure for truing? I have a 7x10 I bought on ebay for 200$. I replaced the motor controller and need to fix the rack. If I put the %C on the *, the 7x could take up the slack. JB On Oct 16, 2011, at 5:46 AM, MERTON B BAKER wrote: Good question. Got the 7x10 out of curiosity, and felt limited by the 10"
dimension, especially when drilling. saw the Homier on sale for 300, and
bought one. 7x12, it said. When it arrived and got unpacked, I discovered that the 12 was from the chuck face, and not between centers. Even salesmen make errors. Not at all saddened by this, and enjoying the extra room, I
found the Grizzly "7x12" on sale for 325, I think it was, and still
curious, I called Grizzly, and was informed that the lathe was out of stock, & if I agreed to wait, on backorder, they would deduct $50, and ship it
free. I agreed. Now, with three lathes, it didn't make sense to swap
chucks any time I needed the 4 jaw, so that went on the Griz, and the collet att. I made went permanently on the 7x10. The last one was an extravagance. I was at a Cummins truck sale, and the Cummins version, which comes with ALL the extra stuff, lunette, follower rest, face plate, TS chuck, etc. and
bought it. This was before Cummins got embroiled with the diesel people,
and changed to "Toolsnow". the Cummins Lathe has been sitting in its box to remind me not to do things like that. Good thing my shop is fairly large.
It's handy having the 4 jaw ready to go, but the collets don't get much use now, although when I was making the closer, they seemed imperative. The
Homier and the Cummins are RBs and the other two are SIEGs. At the moment, most of my work is on the 12x36, and a couple of Unimats. The 7xs get used a lot when I have a job on the 12x that I don't want to take out of the
chuck. I'm retired, and the shop is now my playpen, & provides a little
extra income as well. I can make most anything someone is willing to pay
for.
Mert
-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of John Brookes
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 7:26 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe
why do you own 4?
jb
On Oct 15, 2011, at 4:17 PM, MERTON B BAKER wrote:
Yes, it is. Can't pan it, never used one, or even seen one.
When I bought my first 7x lathe, I already had the 12x36, and I had all
4 of the 7xs I now own, before the 8x14 appeared on the market. I had a
9x20, though, & sold it. It was bigger than the 7x10, all right, and bigger
than the 7x12 (14)s as well, and had 1/3 of a QC gearbox, too, as well as a
nice wide T-slotted top on the cross slide. It weighed at least 300#. I
paid 300, (used) and after I'd made a few improvements, (Camlock TS, QC
toolpost, Lights) sold it for 800. When I sold it, it was much more useful
(better) than a new one. At the moment I have more lathes than I need, and
have a Uni 3 for sale.
Mert
-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of John Brookes
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 2:55 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe
I own both a 8x and a 7x. The 7x is like a toy compared to the 8. The 8 has
massive ways, a big solid TS, and works right out of the box.
The 8x has the feel of a big lathe. I dont cut LH threads, need a feed
towards the tailstock, or variable speed. I just leave it at 800 rpm for
everything from aluminum to ss. If I really need a different speed, I change
the belt in one minute.
At 560, its a buy.
On Oct 15, 2011, at 7:17 AM, MERTON B BAKER wrote:
Maybe. If you need an extra inch of swing. If you don't mind changing
belts. If you never want to cut LH threads, or use the power feed to cut
toward the TS. If you need a lot more power than the &x series. I don't know anything about the 8x14, except what I read on this list; don't
even think I've seen one in the catalogs. In my experience though, the 7x12,
(really a 7x14) is the best small lathe, which is a real engine lathe,
for
anywhere near the price. I own 3 of 'em as well as a 7x10. They lack only
the 40 thread LS gearbox, separate power feed shaft, & cross slide power
feed, which I enjoy having on my 12x36, with the 2 HP 240 v. motor. I
do have to change belts for the 6 fast spindle speeds, and unscrew the bull pin
& engage the back gears for the 6 slow ones. It does have plenty of torque
at 30 rpm, though. I like the 1-3/8" hole thru the spindle, too. FWIW,
I bought a HF 7x10 out of curiosity about 20 years ago, and have been an
enthusiastic fan of the 7xs ever since. Especially, for someone with
limited space, (I have 1500 sf), & a limited budget, (I'm a retired
schoolteacher). I wish these were available in 1958 when I bought my Unimat
DB200.
Mert
-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of whispers [HM]
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 11:44 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe
MUCH MUCH more!!!
but keep in mind.. no variable speed control (all belt speeds)..
and I dont think there is a lead screw reverse lever.. (only if you run
chuck in opposite direction)
(without tumbler gear or whatever)
Go to fignoggle.com to see comparrison pics of the 7x vs the 8x.. The
7x is like a shoe bow!
----- Original Message -----
From: John Brookes
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 3:35 PM
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Buying a mini-lathe
The HF 8x14 now on sale for 699. With 20% coupon that reduces to 560.
The 8x14 is much more machine than the 7x.
j
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